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wear_v out_o and_o it_o can_v not_o be_v discern_v by_o the_o title_n paulinus_n say_v the_o way_n to_o discern_v it_o be_v reveal_v to_o helena_n ruffinus_n ascribe_v the_o devise_n to_o macarius_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n paulinus_n say_v it_o be_v know_v by_o raise_v up_o a_o dead_a man_n to_o life_n ruffinus_n by_o restore_v a_o sick_a woman_n to_o health_n fulk_n annot_fw-mi john_n 19_o sect_n 2._o thus_o we_o see_v of_o what_o small_a credit_n this_o story_n be_v and_o be_v it_o grant_v that_o there_o may_v be_v some_o such_o thing_n find_v yet_o they_o must_v bring_v better_a proof_n for_o that_o miraculous_a invention_n before_o we_o will_v believe_v it_o the_o protestant_n we_o be_v not_o teach_v any_o where_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o give_v any_o religious_a worship_n to_o any_o creature_n nor_o to_o adore_v stock_n and_o stone_n no_o nor_o the_o very_a cross_n itself_o whereon_o christ_n be_v crucify_v if_o it_o be_v now_o to_o be_v see_v or_o have_v argum._n 1._o if_o there_o have_v belong_v unto_o the_o church_n any_o religious_a care_n of_o it_o the_o apostle_n will_v no_o doubt_n have_v procure_v the_o safe_a keep_n thereof_o and_o not_o have_v suffer_v the_o church_n to_o want_v it_o 300._o year_n and_o it_o have_v be_v a_o easy_a suit_n for_o joseph_n and_o nicodemus_n to_o beg_v the_o cross_n than_o the_o body_n of_o jesus_n argum._n 2._o if_o the_o cross_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v we_o be_v uncertain_a which_o it_o be_v and_o where_o to_o be_v have_v and_o so_o may_v worship_v a_o common_a piece_n of_o wood_n for_o the_o wood_n of_o the_o cross_n for_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o this_o relic_n be_v forge_v and_o counterfeit_a as_o the_o rest_n be_v euegrius_n say_v the_o cross_n be_v at_o apamea_n
ruffinus_n that_o it_o be_v leave_v at_o jerusalem_n and_o that_o helena_n send_v a_o piece_n of_o it_o to_o constantinople_n and_o in_o many_o other_o place_n there_o be_v piece_n of_o the_o cross_n to_o be_v see_v which_o if_o they_o be_v all_o lay_v together_o as_o erasmus_n say_v will_v fill_v a_o ship_n for_o why_o paulinus_n witness_v that_o the_o cross_n remain_v whole_a at_o jerusalem_n as_o though_o it_o have_v be_v never_o touch_v though_o innumerable_a piece_n be_v daily_o cut_v off_o from_o it_o at_o the_o request_n of_o man_n but_o this_o fable_n that_o go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o paulinus_n the_o papist_n themselves_o be_v ashamed_a of_o but_o if_o the_o true_a and_o right_a cross_n be_v to_o be_v have_v why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v serve_v if_o people_n begin_v to_o abuse_v it_o to_o idolatry_n as_o hezekiah_n serve_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n he_o break_v it_o in_o piece_n when_o the_o people_n begin_v to_o make_v a_o idol_n of_o it_o augustine_n say_v christus_fw-la ambulavit_fw-la in_o mari_fw-fr ut_fw-la ostenderet_fw-la in_o mari_fw-fr esse_fw-la viam_fw-la sed_fw-la tù_fw-fr quoniam_fw-la iâ—_n mari_fw-fr ambulare_fw-la non_fw-la potes_fw-la navi_fw-la portare_fw-la ligno_fw-la portare_fw-la crede_fw-la in_o crucifixum_fw-la &_o poteris_fw-la pervenire_fw-la nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la transire_fw-la mare_fw-la huius_fw-la seculi_fw-la nisi_fw-la cruse_n christi_fw-la portatus_fw-la christ_n walk_v in_o the_o sea_n to_o show_v we_o that_o our_o way_n must_v be_v through_o the_o sea_n but_o thou_o because_o thou_o can_v not_o walk_v in_o the_o sea_n must_v sail_v in_o a_o ship_n and_o be_v carry_v in_o a_o piece_n of_o wood_n believe_v in_o he_o that_o be_v crucify_v for_o thou_o no_o man_n can_v pass_v the_o sea_n of_o this_o world_n but_o be_v bear_v up_o with_o the_o cross_n of_o christ._n here_o augustine_n make_v no_o reckon_n of_o the_o wood_n of_o the_o cross_n which_o be_v easy_a to_o be_v have_v in_o his_o day_n than_o ever_o since_o but_o ascribe_v all_o to_o faith_n and_o belief_n in_o christ_n crucify_v the_o second_o article_n of_o the_o image_n of_o the_o cross_n or_o crucifix_n the_o papist_n the_o image_n of_o christ_n upon_o the_o cross_n whether_o paint_v carve_a or_o grave_v we_o error_n 43_o see_v be_v have_v in_o great_a honour_n among_o our_o adversary_n they_o kneel_v down_o before_o their_o crucifix_n wear_v it_o in_o their_o bosom_n next_o to_o their_o heart_n carry_v it_o in_o their_o journey_n set_v it_o up_o to_o be_v adore_v in_o their_o church_n argum._n 1._o as_o adoration_n be_v do_v unto_o god_n in_o old_a time_n at_o and_o before_o the_o ark_n and_o tabernacle_n so_o it_o may_v be_v do_v now_o at_o or_o before_o a_o crucifix_n relic_n image_n rhemist_n annot_v heb._n 11._o sect_n 9_o ans._n 1._o it_o be_v not_o all_o one_o to_o worship_n god_n at_o or_o before_o a_o thing_n as_o to_o worship_n and_o adore_v the_o thing_n the_o israelit_n worship_v god_n in_o at_z or_o before_o the_o tabernacle_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o worship_v the_o tabernacle_n as_o you_o do_v the_o crucifix_n 2._o they_o may_v worship_v god_n before_o the_o ark_n because_o they_o be_v command_v so_o to_o do_v but_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o fall_v down_o before_o a_o crucifix_n because_o all_o such_o image_n be_v flat_o in_o the_o 2._o commandment_n forbid_v argum._n 2._o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n appear_v to_o constantine_n in_o the_o air_n he_o cause_v the_o cross_n to_o be_v carry_v before_o he_o as_o a_o ensign_n in_o battle_n when_o the_o jew_n have_v leave_v of_o julian_n to_o build_v the_o temple_n there_o be_v cross_n see_v every_o where_o in_o their_o garment_n and_o many_o such_o apparition_n have_v there_o be_v of_o the_o cross_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v and_o worship_v bellarmine_n cap._n 28._o ans._n 1._o what_o if_o constantine_n cause_v the_o cross_n to_o be_v carry_v before_o he_o stamp_v it_o in_o his_o coin_n set_v up_o his_o picture_n with_o the_o cross_n in_o his_o hand_n all_o this_o we_o grant_v be_v do_v &_o may_v be_v do_v again_o it_o be_v but_o a_o civil_a no_o religious_a use_n of_o the_o cross_n he_o worship_v it_o not_o unless_o you_o will_v say_v he_o set_v up_o his_o own_o image_n with_o the_o cross_n in_o his_o hand_n to_o be_v worship_v 2._o as_o for_o the_o apparition_n of_o the_o cross_n though_o we_o think_v many_o of_o they_o to_o be_v forge_v yet_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o the_o lord_n have_v and_o may_v yet_o show_v what_o sign_n and_o token_n it_o please_v he_o in_o the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n shall_v therefore_o be_v worship_v because_o it_o be_v show_v to_o constantine_n no_o more_o than_o other_o sign_n and_o strange_a sight_n that_o many_o time_n appear_v in_o the_o air_n for_o the_o other_o apparition_n of_o cross_n in_o the_o jew_n garment_n we_o will_v require_v it_o with_o another_o and_o yet_o you_o shall_v gain_v nothing_o by_o it_o anno._n 1505._o under_o the_o reign_n of_o the_o emperor_n maximilian_n there_o appear_v diverse_a token_n of_o bloody_a cross_n the_o nail_n the_o sponge_n the_o spear_n and_o other_o sign_n of_o christ_n passion_n in_o the_o garment_n of_o man_n and_o woman_n yea_o in_o their_o rock_n while_o they_o be_v a_o spin_v report_v by_o francis_n mirandula_n carion_n functius_n melancton_n flaccius_n but_o the_o popish_a chronologer_n make_v no_o mention_n of_o it_o as_o christianus_n masseus_n &_o other_o of_o that_o profession_n as_o the_o cross_n in_o the_o jew_n garment_n that_o go_v about_o to_o establish_v their_o ceremony_n again_o do_v show_v that_o do_v what_o they_o can_v the_o gospel_n that_o be_v the_o preach_n of_o his_o cross_n shall_v take_v place_n as_o it_o do_v so_o these_o sign_n in_o germany_n do_v portend_v that_o the_o gospel_n in_o germany_n shall_v be_v preach_v though_o the_o papist_n strive_v never_o so_o much_o against_o it_o but_o it_o be_v a_o far_o fetch_v conclusion_n to_o infer_v hereupon_o that_o the_o sign_n or_o image_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v the_o protestant_n the_o image_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n be_v neither_o to_o be_v paint_v carve_a grave_v for_o any_o religious_a use_n nor_o to_o be_v adore_v or_o worship_v but_o man_n so_o do_v do_v fall_v into_o the_o grievous_a and_o high_a offence_n and_o sin_n of_o idolatry_n argu._n 1._o the_o scripture_n never_o call_v the_o cross_n whereon_o christ_n suffer_v the_o holy_a cross_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v but_o rather_o curse_a for_o s._n paul_n prove_v that_o christ_n become_v accurse_v for_o we_o because_o he_o die_v upon_o the_o cross_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n curse_v be_v every_o one_o that_o hang_v on_o a_o tree_n how_o then_o be_v it_o now_o honour_a which_o be_v then_o accurse_v and_o if_o all_o cross_n be_v worthy_a honour_n because_o of_o christ_n his_o cross_n then_o why_o not_o all_o nail_n and_o spear_n for_o with_o they_o he_o be_v pierce_v all_o thorn_n also_o because_o of_o his_o crown_n of_o thorn_n yea_o &_o all_o horse-manger_n too_o because_o he_o be_v lay_v in_o a_o crib_n argum._n 2_o they_o be_v uncertain_a of_o what_o fashion_n the_o cross_n of_o christ_n be_v whetherlike_o the_o greek_a letter_n Ï…._n or_o this_o letter_n x._o or_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d t._n or_o of_o this_o fashion_n †_o or_o of_o this_o ✚_o which_o be_v the_o usual_a form_n of_o their_o cross_n how_o then_o dare_v they_o worship_v that_o which_o they_o know_v not_o and_o be_v uncertain_a of_o 3._o all_o those_o reason_n which_o we_o bring_v before_o against_o the_o worship_v of_o image_n part_n â—_o huius_fw-la quaest_n articul_fw-la 3._o may_v be_v urge_v against_o the_o adoration_n of_o crucifix_n augustine_n thus_o write_v hanc_fw-la intuentes_fw-la salutiferam_fw-la crucem_fw-la omne_fw-la calumniantium_fw-la superborum_fw-la virus_fw-la expellimus_fw-la 26._o by_o behold_v this_o helpful_a or_o healtful_a cross_n we_o be_v able_a to_o avoid_v the_o poison_n of_o all_o proud_a venomous_a caviller_n he_o speak_v not_o of_o any_o crucifix_n that_o they_o have_v in_o sight_n but_o of_o the_o fruitful_a meditation_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n as_o he_o say_v a_o little_a before_o dum_fw-la vigilantissima_fw-la &_o diligentissima_fw-la pielate_fw-la christus_fw-la crucifixus_fw-la attenditur_fw-la when_o with_o diligent_a and_o watchful_a and_o godly_a attention_n we_o consider_v christ_n crucify_v loe_o this_o be_v augustine_n crucifix_n to_o meditate_v upon_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n the_o three_o article_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o the_o forehead_n or_o make_v over_o any_o thing_n with_o the_o hand_n the_o papist_n they_o say_v it_o be_v a_o holy_a and_o venerable_a sign_n and_o meet_v to_o be_v
sect_n 8._o ans._n 1._o in_o this_o place_n christ_n reprove_v the_o pharisy_n for_o their_o swear_n and_o condemn_v it_o by_o this_o argument_n that_o howsoever_o they_o think_v it_o a_o small_a matter_n to_o swear_v by_o the_o temple_n yet_o in_o effect_n they_o do_v swear_v by_o god_n himself_o see_v they_o the_o boldness_n of_o these_o man_n that_o dare_v justify_v swear_v by_o creature_n by_o the_o same_o reason_n that_o christ_n condemn_v it_o 2._o our_o saviour_n say_v nothing_o but_o this_o that_o in_o every_o oath_n there_o be_v a_o invocation_n of_o the_o divine_a power_n and_o therefore_o whosoever_o swear_v by_o a_o creature_n commit_v idolatry_n in_o make_v it_o his_o god_n the_o protestant_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v great_a impiety_n to_o make_v vow_n unto_o saint_n it_o be_v thus_o prove_v isay_n 19.21_o in_o that_o day_n the_o egyptian_n shall_v know_v the_o lord_n and_o shall_v do_v sacrifice_n and_o vow_v vow_n unto_o the_o lord_n but_o sacrifice_n be_v not_o due_a unto_o saint_n but_o only_o to_o god_n therefore_o neither_o vow_n again_o the_o vow_n of_o christian_n be_v not_o to_o bind_v themselves_o to_o go_v in_o pilgrimage_n or_o to_o offer_v unto_o this_o saint_n or_o that_o this_o image_n or_o that_o as_o augustine_n say_v alius_fw-la pallium_fw-la alius_fw-la oleum_fw-la alius_fw-la ceram_fw-la one_o vow_v a_o cloak_n another_o oil_n 7._o a_o three_o a_o wax_n candle_n god_n care_v not_o for_o these_o vow_n say_v he_o sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la hodie_fw-la redemit_fw-la ipsum_fw-la offer_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la animam_fw-la tuam_fw-la but_o offer_v and_o vow_n unto_o god_n that_o which_o as_o this_o day_n he_o have_v redeem_v that_o be_v thy_o soul_n the_o vow_n therefore_o of_o obedience_n and_o repentance_n and_o all_o christian_a duty_n be_v the_o true_a vow_n the_o vow_v of_o body_n and_o soul_n to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n rom._n 12.1_o but_o this_o can_v not_o be_v vow_v unto_o any_o but_o to_o he_o that_o redeem_v we_o ergo_fw-la not_o to_o any_o saint_n 2_o that_o we_o ought_v only_o to_o swear_v by_o the_o name_n of_o god_n the_o scripture_n be_v plain_a deuteron_n 6_o 13._o thou_o shall_v fear_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n and_o serve_v he_o and_o shall_v swear_v by_o his_o name_n and_o by_o no_o other_o exod._n 23.13_o but_o saint_n be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v nor_o serve_v for_o the_o septuagint_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thou_o shall_v worship_v god_n which_o kind_n of_o worship_n the_o papist_n themselves_o dare_v not_o attribute_v to_o saint_n ergo_fw-la neither_o be_v we_o to_o swear_v by_o they_o again_o to_o swear_v be_v to_o call_v he_o to_o witness_v by_o who_o we_o swear_v and_o so_o to_o make_v he_o our_o god_n for_o who_o we_o swear_v by_o we_o confess_v to_o be_v a_o searcher_n and_o knower_n of_o our_o heart_n and_o a_o revenger_n of_o false_a swearer_n to_o swear_v then_o be_v to_o call_v god_n to_o witness_v quid_fw-la tu_fw-la facis_fw-la cum_fw-la iuras_fw-la deum_fw-la testem_fw-la adhibes_fw-la augustine_n what_o do_v thou_o 17._o when_o thou_o swear_v thou_o call_v god_n to_o wintesse_n but_o they_o that_o swear_v by_o saint_n call_v they_o to_o witness_v and_o none_o else_o be_v call_v to_o witness_v but_o they_o by_o who_o they_o swear_v ergo_fw-la they_o make_v saint_n their_o god_n see_v god_n be_v call_v upon_o in_o every_o oath_n the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o two_o kind_n of_o worship_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o papist_n error_n 26_o that_o kind_n of_o worship_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n they_o say_v be_v fit_o express_v by_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o be_v this_o word_n use_v but_o for_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n the_o other_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v for_o all_o kind_n of_o service_n both_o of_o god_n &_o man_n so_o that_o the_o religious_a worship_n which_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v only_o to_o be_v give_v to_o god_n the_o other_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v be_v attribute_v to_o angel_n and_o saint_n bellarmine_n cap._n 12._o the_o protestant_n this_o distinction_n be_v but_o of_o late_o invent_v and_o coin_a of_o our_o adversary_n somewhat_o to_o countenance_v they_o out_o in_o their_o idolatrous_a and_o superstitious_a worship_n of_o saint_n we_o thus_o do_v refel_v it_o argum._n 1._o this_o distinction_n help_v they_o not_o for_o here_o be_v only_o two_o word_n which_o do_v betoken_v two_o kind_n of_o worship_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o religious_a honour_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o civil_a duty_n such_o as_o servant_n perform_v to_o their_o master_n they_o shall_v have_v find_v out_o three_o name_n for_o their_o three_o kind_n of_o worship_n they_o have_v gain_v nothing_o by_o this_o distinction_n but_o that_o civil_a adoration_n be_v due_a unto_o saint_n such_o as_o be_v give_v to_o man_n upon_o earth_n as_o for_o their_o feign_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o may_v be_v call_v a_o superservice_n when_o they_o can_v find_v it_o in_o scripture_n they_o shall_v know_v more_o of_o our_o mind_n and_o yet_o receive_v this_o term_n it_o signify_v but_o a_o more_o civil_a service_n it_o betoken_v not_o a_o new_a kind_n of_o religious_a worship_n argum._n 2_o neither_o be_v the_o word_n so_o use_v as_o they_o make_v we_o believe_v for_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o they_o make_v proper_a for_o the_o service_n of_o god_n be_v apply_v to_o man_n as_o levit._n 23._o opus_fw-la servile_a non_fw-la facietis_fw-la you_o shall_v do_v no_o servile_a work_n the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lodovic_fw-la vives_z also_o show_v out_o of_o profane_a author_n that_o sometime_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v for_o the_o service_n of_o man_n or_o maid_n to_o their_o master_n in_o 10._o lib._n aug._n the_o civet_n dei_fw-la cap._n 1._o so_o contrariwise_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v in_o scripture_n for_o the_o proper_a service_n of_o god_n as_o gal._n 4.8_o you_o do_v service_n to_o they_o that_o by_o nature_n be_v no_o god_n the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ergo_fw-la religious_a service_n be_v only_o due_a unto_o god_n not_o to_o angel_n or_o saint_n for_o they_o be_v not_o by_o nature_n god_n augustine_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d debetur_fw-la deo_fw-la tanquam_fw-la domino_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d verò_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la deo_fw-la tanquam_fw-la deo_fw-la quaest_n in_o exod._n 94._o religious_a service_n be_v due_a unto_o god_n as_o lord_n religious_a worship_n be_v only_o due_a unto_o god_n as_o he_o be_v god_n the_o three_o part_n concern_v the_o kiss_n of_o holy_a man_n foot_n the_o papist_n it_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o reverence_n do_v both_o to_o christ_n and_o other_o sacred_a person_n as_o prophet_n apostle_n pope_n or_o other_o represent_v his_o person_n here_o upon_o error_n 27_o earth_n rhemist_n act_n 4._o sect_n 3._o argum._n 1._o the_o shunamite_n fall_v down_o and_o embrace_v eliseus_n foot_n 2._o king_n 4.27_o ergo_fw-la the_o pope_n foot_n ought_v to_o be_v kiss_v ans._n 1_o your_o pope_n must_v be_v first_o as_o holy_a man_n as_o this_o prophet_n be_v who_o be_v thus_o reverence_v for_o his_o holiness_n before_o they_o can_v challenge_v the_o like_a honour_n 2_o this_o reverence_n to_o the_o prophet_n be_v voluntary_a in_o the_o woman_n not_o look_v for_o or_o exact_v by_o the_o prophet_n as_o the_o pope_n look_v for_o it_o of_o duty_n 3_o here_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v of_o kiss_v of_o foot_n but_o only_o that_o she_o catch_v he_o by_o the_o foot_n which_o be_v partly_o a_o sign_n of_o her_o joy_n that_o she_o have_v meet_v with_o the_o prophet_n partly_o by_o this_o sudden_a and_o disorder_a gesture_n the_o prophet_n perceyve_v that_o she_o be_v trouble_v in_o mind_n for_o gehazi_n will_v have_v thrust_v she_o away_o but_o he_o say_v let_v she_o alone_o for_o her_o spirit_n be_v trouble_v within_o she_o 4_o this_o be_v no_o warrant_n for_o the_o pope_n to_o offer_v his_o foot_n to_o be_v kiss_v of_o king_n and_o emperor_n because_o the_o woman_n fall_v down_o at_o the_o prophet_n foot_n think_v you_o that_o if_o the_o king_n of_o israel_n have_v so_o do_v the_o prophet_n will_v have_v suffer_v it_o argum._n 2._o marry_o kiss_v christ_n foot_n ergo_fw-la the_o pope_n foot_n ought_v to_o be_v kiss_v ans._n what_o arrogancy_n be_v this_o that_o the_o pope_n a_o mortal_a and_o sinful_a man_n shall_v challenge_v that_o honour_n which_o be_v do_v to_o christ_n be_v god_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o void_a of_o sin_n he_o may_v also_o
with_o the_o like_a blasphemy_n challenge_v to_o be_v worship_v because_o the_o woman_n in_o the_o gospel_n catch_v christ_n by_o the_o foot_n and_o worship_v he_o mat._n 28.9_o we_o may_v see_v by_o this_o of_o what_o spirit_n he_o be_v and_o whether_o he_o be_v not_o that_o antichrist_n that_o shall_v make_v himself_o as_o god_n 2._o thess._n 2.4_o the_o protestant_n the_o kiss_n of_o the_o foot_n be_v a_o humble_a and_o lowly_a gesture_n which_o be_v worthy_o use_v towards_o our_o saviour_n christ_n who_o be_v god_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o in_o his_o body_n and_o humanity_n annex_v to_o his_o godhead_n as_o god_n to_o be_v worship_v but_o it_o be_v too_o divine_a and_o too_o lowly_a a_o homage_n to_o be_v offer_v to_o any_o mortal_a man_n and_o holy_a man_n in_o time_n past_o refuse_v it_o when_o any_o carry_v away_o with_o immoderate_a zeal_n and_o admiration_n of_o their_o person_n be_v ready_a to_o give_v it_o unto_o they_o argum._n 1._o when_o cornelius_n fall_v down_o at_o peter_n foot_n the_o holy_a apostle_n will_v not_o suffer_v he_o to_o do_v it_o the_o pope_n be_v of_o a_o clean_a contrary_a spirit_n to_o s._n peter_n for_o he_o refuse_v it_o be_v offer_v the_o pope_n hold_v out_o his_o toe_n and_o offer_v it_o to_o be_v kiss_v and_o urge_v man_n thereunto_o argum._n 2_o if_o such_o kiss_n of_o foot_n be_v commendable_a how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o the_o pope_n only_o have_v holy_a foot_n to_o kiss_v and_o not_o other_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n man_n as_o well_o as_o he_o augustine_n thus_o write_v upon_o those_o word_n of_o the_o psalm_n worship_n his_o footstool_n read_v according_a to_o the_o septuagint_n say_v he_o the_o earth_n be_v his_o foot_n stool_n but_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v the_o earth_n conuerâ—o_fw-la i_o ad_fw-la christum_n &_o invenio_fw-la quomodo_fw-la sine_fw-la impietate_fw-la adoretur_fw-la terra_fw-la suscepit_fw-la enim_fw-la de_fw-la terra_fw-la terram_fw-la quia_fw-la caro_fw-la terra_fw-la est_fw-la in_o psal._n 98._o i_o turn_v i_o say_v he_o unto_o christ_n and_o i_o find_v how_o the_o earth_n may_v without_o any_o impiety_n be_v worship_v for_o he_o take_v earth_n of_o earth_n flesh_n of_o the_o flesh_n of_o the_o virgin_n the_o flesh_n be_v earth_n out_o of_o these_o word_n i_o conclude_v that_o the_o flesh_n the_o body_n the_o humanity_n ought_v not_o in_o any_o to_o be_v worship_v but_o only_o in_o christ_n for_o the_o near_a conjunction_n of_o the_o godhead_n and_o humane_a nature_n together_o and_o therefore_o consequent_o not_o kiss_v of_o foot_n which_o be_v a_o external_a act_n of_o divine_a worship_n be_v seemly_a for_o any_o mortal_a man_n the_o three_o question_n concern_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n this_o question_n have_v three_o part_n 1._o whether_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v make_v unto_o saint_n 2._o whether_o they_o do_v pray_v for_o us._n 3_o whether_o they_o understand_v our_o prayer_n the_o first_o part_n whether_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v make_v to_o saint_n the_o papist_n error_n 28_o their_o assertion_n be_v this_o sanctos_fw-la defunctos_fw-la piè_fw-la &_o utiliter_fw-la à _fw-la viventib_fw-la invocari_fw-la that_o saint_n depart_v be_v with_o great_a profit_n and_o piety_n call_v upon_o and_o pray_v unto_o and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o lawful_a but_o godly_a so_o to_o do_v rhemist_n 1._o tim._n 2._o sect_n 4._o bellarmine_n cap._n 19_o lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr sanctor_n beatitud_n argum._n 1._o they_o say_v they_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o saint_n as_o author_n of_o any_o benefit_n or_o grace_n but_o as_o intercessor_n only_o neither_o do_v they_o make_v they_o immediate_a intercessor_n but_o only_o through_o christ_n conclude_v all_o their_o prayer_n per_fw-la christum_n dominum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la bellarm._n ans._n 1._o it_o be_v false_a that_o you_o pray_v unto_o they_o as_o intercessor_n only_o for_o you_o desire_v they_o not_o only_o to_o pray_v for_o you_o but_o to_o have_v mercy_n on_o you_o for_o thus_o they_o pray_v o_o bless_a lady_n have_v mercy_n upon_o we_o preserve_v thy_o servant_n let_v the_o merit_n of_o s._n marry_o bring_v we_o to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n fulk_n 1._o timoth._n 2._o sect_n 4._o 2._o it_o be_v also_o false_a that_o they_o make_v they_o not_o immediate_a intercessor_n but_o conclude_v their_o prayer_n per_fw-la christum_fw-la dominum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la for_o in_o that_o blasphemous_a prayer_n tu_fw-la per_fw-la thomae_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la quem_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la impendit_fw-la fac_fw-la nos_fw-la christ_n scandere_fw-la quò_fw-la thomas_n ascendit_fw-la here_o they_o ask_v life_n eternal_a of_o christ_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o thomas_n of_o canterbury_n how_o then_o be_v it_o true_a which_o the_o rhemist_n affirm_v in_o word_n that_o christ_n alone_o by_o his_o merit_n procure_v all_o grace_n and_o mercy_n toward_o mankind_n ibid._n when_o they_o hope_v to_o obtain_v their_o request_n by_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n see_v fulk_n annot_v john_n 16._o sect_n 3._o where_o diverse_a prayer_n to_o saint_n as_o to_o s._n marry_o s._n osmond_n s._n anne_n s._n katherine_n be_v reckon_v up_o and_o none_o of_o they_o conclude_v per_fw-la christum_fw-la dominum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la argum._n 2._o exod._n 32.13_o moses_n thus_o pray_v remember_v abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n thy_o servant_n moses_n here_o hope_v to_o have_v his_o prayer_n hear_v by_o the_o merit_n of_o these_o holy_a man_n bellarm._n ans._n moses_n rehearse_v only_o the_o covenant_n which_o the_o lord_n make_v with_o these_o holy_a man_n and_o their_o seed_n as_o the_o word_n follow_v do_v show_v to_o who_o thou_o swear_v by_o thy_o own_o self_n and_o swear_v unto_o they_o i_o will_v multiply_v your_o seed_n moses_n therefore_o plead_v not_o the_o merit_n of_o abraham_n isaac_n jacob_n but_o urge_v and_o press_v the_o promise_n of_o god_n and_o covenant_n make_v with_o they_o argum._n 3._o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v one_o for_o another_o here_o upon_o earth_n and_o do_v one_o desire_n a_o another_o prayer_n as_o s._n paul_n rom._n 15._o ephes._n 6._o coloss._n 4._o and_o in_o other_o place_n desire_v to_o be_v assist_v by_o their_o prayer_n ergo_fw-la much_o more_o may_v we_o desire_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n depart_v bellarm._n rhemist_n ans._n 1._o to_o pray_v one_o for_o another_o while_o we_o live_v be_v a_o duty_n of_o charity_n and_o command_v in_o scripture_n but_o to_o request_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n depart_v have_v no_o warrant_n in_o the_o word_n 2._o we_o do_v not_o desire_v the_o godly_a live_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o as_o our_o mediator_n or_o as_o though_o by_o their_o worthiness_n we_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o favour_n of_o god_n as_o you_o say_v the_o saint_n do_v and_o therefore_o your_o argument_n follow_v not_o from_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n to_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o dead_a 3._o we_o may_v one_o pray_v for_o another_o and_o one_o request_v the_o prayer_n of_o another_o while_o we_o live_v because_o we_o know_v our_o mutual_a necessity_n but_o the_o saint_n depart_v know_v not_o what_o thing_n be_v do_v upon_o earth_n neither_o be_v every_o where_o present_a to_o hear_v our_o prayer_n the_o protestant_n that_o prayer_n be_v only_o to_o be_v make_v unto_o god_n and_o to_o no_o other_o creature_n beside_o as_o be_v a_o especial_a part_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n which_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o give_v to_o any_o other_o thus_o it_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n argum._n 1._o rom._n 10.14_o how_o shall_v they_o call_v upon_o he_o in_o who_o they_o have_v not_o believe_v but_o we_o must_v believe_v only_o in_o god_n and_o therefore_o only_o pray_v to_o god_n rhemist_n answer_n it_o be_v true_a no_o more_o can_v we_o pray_v unto_o our_o lady_n nor_o any_o saint_n in_o heaven_n unless_o we_o believe_v they_o can_v help_v us._n ans._n the_o scripture_n every_o where_o teach_v that_o we_o must_v believe_v in_o god_n and_o that_o they_o be_v curse_v that_o put_v any_o confidence_n in_o man_n jerem._n 17.5_o again_o they_o can_v have_v no_o assurance_n to_o settle_v their_o conscience_n but_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n they_o have_v a_o vain_a persuasion_n of_o the_o ability_n of_o saint_n to_o help_v they_o but_o they_o have_v no_o ground_n of_o any_o such_o belief_n out_o of_o scripture_n argum._n 2._o heb._n 4.16_o let_v we_o come_v with_o boldness_n to_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n ergo_fw-la we_o have_v no_o need_n of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n see_v we_o have_v free_a and_o bold_a access_n through_o christ._n rhemist_n by_o this_o reason_n we_o shall_v not_o pray_v one_o for_o a_o other_o while_o we_o be_v alive_a ans._n we_o do_v not_o put_v our_o confidence_n in_o the_o merit_n and_o worthiness_n of_o other_o man_n prayer_n as_o you_o do_v in_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n again_o this_o mutual_a duty_n of_o prayer_n