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A79489 A Christian plea for infants baptisme. Or a confutation of some things written by A.R. in his treatise, entitutled, The second part of the vanitie and childishnesse of infants baptisme. In the answer whereof, the lawfulnesse of infants baptisme is defended, and the arguments against it disproved, by sufficient grounds and forcible reasons, drawn from the sweet fountains of holy Scripture. S.C. Chidley, Samuel. 1644 (1644) Wing C3836A; Thomason E32_2; ESTC R11383 164,121 171

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furniture of my fathers kingdome And those whom the father giveth me I will not cast away It is not the will of your heavenly father that any of these little ones should perish * Mar. 18.1 Joh. 21.15 They are Israelites the lambs of my pasture I am the Shepheard of Israel and will in no wise cast them away He sayd Surely they are my people children that will not lie so he was their Saviour In all their affliction he was afflicted Isa 63.8 9. And as I being the Angel of Gods presence saved them and in my love and in my pittie redeemed them and bare them up in mine armes all the dayes of old so will I beare them now Therefore suffer the little children to come unto me and forbid them not for of such is the kingdome of God Wherefore let all those who oppose holy infants know that they thus far are enemies unto the Gospel and so doe sinne against God exceedingly in labouring to cast out these who are the glorie of our fathers house But the holy Prophet Isaiah sayth that upon all the glorie there shall be a covering * Isa 4.5 Now Infants being part of the glorie there is a covering upon them and this covering 59.21 is by the Spirit of the Lord for verification whereof see the Evangel Mat. 19.14 * Luk. 18.15 16 where Christ sayth Of such is the kingdome of heaven Mark 10.14 Of such is the kingdome of God And he tooke them up in his armes and put his hands upon them and blessed them Ver. 15. And by this it may appeare that all beleeving parents have ground to cast their infants upon the Lord Jesus Christ and for them to depend upon him who is as a nayle fastened in a sure place And whereas it is sayd All the glorie Wee are taught not to leave out any of the glorie least by abridging or debarring our Infants of their priviledges wee leave out some of the glorie if not the chiefest part and so highly disobey Gods Institution in leaving out his ordinances and his people which are the glory of his house It is to be minded that this word all is agreeable to the words of Christ when he sayth Of such is the kingdome of heaven for this word such as hath been observed * See before in pag. 92 93. 99. 100. is of a large extent and includeth them also they being the glory of the Fathers house So in Malachy the seed of the godly are called a godly seed Mal. 2.14 and in 1 Cor. 7.14 they are tearmed holy children God greatly delighteth in them and they are a glorie unto his Church Wherefore they are dignified with names accordingly And moreover Christ being set forth as a nayle unto these holy vessells it doth signifie unto us that these must be put upon him which have not a naturall capablenesse the holy off-spring and blessed issue the vessells in Gods temple must be fastened upon * Not but that they are of the Temple or mēbers of the Church but for more comelines honour and eminencie safetie glorie and dignitie they were appointed to be set on high by the Inhabitants of Jerusalem the house of Judah upō him who is as a nayle fastened in a sure place him by others If we compare the 17th of Genesis with this it will give light to the poynt for there the parents were commanded to circumcise their children which was unto them a signe and seale of the righteousnesse of the same faith which Abraham had and so it was a token that they belonged unto the Lord. And Baptisme being unto us as Circumcision was unto them wee therefore baptize our infants as they circumcized theirs and thereby doe confirme them unto Christ as they confirmed theirs And because he claimeth these holy vessells of small quantitie we therefore dedicate them unto him according as God commanded the Children of Israel concerning theirs and so we put them upon the Lord Jesus Christ and they are his peculiar treasure and he beareth them and approveth of our practise in bringing them unto him it being according to his Commandement who is as faithful in his house as Moses and is worthy of more glory then Moses * Heb. 3.3 inasmuch as he who buildeth the house is worthy of more honour then the house Now in this house there the Lord hath ordained his vessels of small quantitie to abide who are the off-spring and the issue and the glorie thereof And they may well be called so for God calleth and counteth them so And also where this glorie is there is still hope and it is and may in reason be expected that as they come to be capable so they will manifest actually the fruits of Gods Spirit and as they are children of light and inlightned so they will set it forth to the glory of the father of lights And as glorious starres in eminencie shew forth their excellencie in the bright firmament of that heavenly Jerusalem wherein they are planted and placed and will be also a meanes to encrease it not onely by grafting in those farre remote but also by propagation or multiplication of persons within themselves As Moses that good Christian who was like unto Christ sayth Deut. 1.11 The Lord make you a thousand times so many as you be Which speech is not to be limited to an addition of persons unto them from out of the world but it is meant that they should increase amongst themselves and so multiply even as a tree which though it have grafts yet groweth into many branches which branches are not grafted in but spring therefrom and grow thereupon Now where this glorie is not there is a want of it yea and a great want I may say indeed And why Because that the Church then is in expectation according to the ordinarie course of nature in a decaying condition I say the Church is readie to decay that is to say to be lessened more and more in this terrestriall habitacle for it is appointed unto men once to die and when they are dead they are gone and leave the remnant or none behind them But holy infants being in the Church and members of the same they are a glory unto it and it may well be expected according to the ordinary course of nature that they will out-live the other and so succeed them after their decease and so the celestiall glorie of the fathers will shine in the children according to the minde of God in this terrestriall world Now where this glorie is missing so that the generations in the Church doe passe away and none are borne to succeed there is a want in that respect and so consequently the supply thereof is to be desired which if it be made up then it is a glory an honour a rejoycing unto them So that though this hope deferred maketh the heart sicke yet the desire comming is as a tree of life Pro.
that is eight soules were saved by water the like figure whereunto Baptisme doth now also save us by the resurrection of Jesus Christ These then being onely figures and allusions cannot serve at all to prove the poynt in hand The Reply That the Text doth declare they were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea is cleare 1 Cor. 10.1 2. And this place doth make directly against particular parts of your Judgement as your denying the Baptisme of Infants to be lawfull affirming it to be onely a meer device and tradition of men brought into the world for politick and by-ends * See A. R. his first booke in the Epistle to the Reader Now here you may see who brought it into the world I will not say God did it for politick or by-ends for then I should be like the Serpent which would have perswaded Eve that God for such by-ends did forbid them to eat of the tree of knowledge of Good and evill thereby to possesse them with this as though God envied their happie estate But wee know that Gods love is not self-love his end was alwayes to doe his people good at their later end and by the baptizing of them in the cloud and the sea he did prophetically demonstrate what should be in the dayes of the Messias and herein aymed not onely at his owne glory but at his peoples comfort See A. R. his Vanitie of Childish Baptisme pag. 9. Secondly This place maketh against your Judgement in your holding and seeking to maintaine a necessitie of plunging the whole man in water in the ordinance of Baptisme for the Apostle sayth They were all baptized in the cloud and in the sea But wee will not say that they were plunged in water or over-whelmed with the water of the Sea for then they would have been like unto the Aegyptians for the Aegyptians were served after this manner * Exod. 14.27 28. Neither will wee affirme as you doe that the Israelites were in the cloud and in the sea dry without declaring what drines we meane for though they went upon dry ground and the waters were a wall unto them on the right hand and on the left * Ver. 22 23. yet wee may collect from the Scriptures that they were baptized * 1 Cor. 10.1 2. Exod. 14.19 Psal 77.15 16 17 18 19 20. with water out of the Cloud or Sea But this Text you labour to shift off by telling us that your question is not of baptizing unto Moses but of baptizing unto Christ by being dipped or buried in water c. And by this it appeareth that you think this Baptisme which the Children of Israel received was not the Baptisme of or unto Christ but meerly a Baptisme unto Moses But you should know that Moses was not such a one as you take him to be for he was faithfull in all his house and brought no innovations into Gods Church The Evangelicall Ordinances and Oracles then were the things of God If then they were the things of God Gods Sonne who was alwayes God with God was then the owner thereof and he being the Angel of Gods presence * Isa 63.8 9. who was with them in the cloud and in the sea when they were Baptized * Exod. 14 19. wee may safely conclude that the Baptisme was his as well as the rest of the Oracles and Ordinances And you should know that though the manner of Baptising then unto Moses and now unto Christ differeth in Circumstances yet the Baptisme is one and the same in substance and therefore the Apostle Paul telleth us they were all Baptized in the cloud and in the sea * 1 Cor. 10.2 and he putteth no other differences between the two Baptismes but that the one is as the other And therefore when we speake of that Baptisme wee cannot but speake of the Baptisme of Christ a Understand heer that I speake of the Baptisme of water for Christ is said by his authoritie to Baptise with water as well as with the holy Ghost fire and so the baptisme of water is his whether before or after his ascension for as the Baptisme of Christ is not the Baptisme of John yet the Baptisme of John was the Baptisme of Christ So though the Baptisme of Christ is not the Baptisme of Moses yet the Baptisme of Moses was the Baptisme of Christ For Moses was faithfull in all his house as a servant for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken afterwards but Christ as a Sonne who was counted worthy of more glory then Moses for he was the builder of the house and therefore is worthy of more honour then the house b Heb. 3.2 3. And seeing they were all baptized unto Moses who was commended for his faithfulnesse c Ver. 5. there is no just reason can be given to debarre the infants of beleevers from Baptisme now or from being baptized unto Christ seeing Christ is worthy of more glory th●n Moses and that the Sonnes d Ver. 6. priviledges are no lesse but more then the servants But you bring in exceptions against the baptisme then and so labour to make a disparitie between the baptisme then in the cloud and sea and this baptisme now for you say They were not dipt and then yeeld this reason for they were in the cloud and in the sea drie But I would know of you how long they were drie Surely they might be watered and yet not be dipt There is a Medium between being dipt and being dry Wee reade that the children of Isreal were baptised * 1 Cor. 10.2 but wee doe not reade that they were overwhelmed as the Aegyptians were * Exod. 14.28 But by this it appeareth that the Scripture is of no value unto you unlesse it will agree with your fond opinions for you would argue that because they were not dipped therefore they were not baptised at least not according to Christs institution And afterwards you say Nor was Baptisme then instituted So you have answered your selfe though it be after a writhen manner If Baptisme were not then instituted how could that Baptisme be according to the institution of Christ though they were dipt never so much I hope you will not say that dipping or plunging maketh Baptisme any more to be of Christs institution For then you will say that the Aegyptians were baptized according to Christs institution and not the Israelites But you should know t●at the Israelites were not baptized contrary to Christs institution The Angel of Gods presence was with his people then in the cloud and in the sea He was the Instituter Consider then I pray you what want was there of any thing needfull unto Baptisme Ob. 1. Did they want an Instituter Ans They had him with them in the sea Ob. 2. Did they want an Administrater Ans The Instituter could doe it or appoint it to be done by some other besides himselfe
13.12 a reviving unto them Look upon the first Church that was on earth Adam and Eve see whether they were not comforted in bringing forth children to God and what hope had they of the continuance of the Church on earth if it were not by promulgation of children to their celestiall Father After Abel was slain and Cain cast out God sent Seth in stead of Abel Gen. 4.25 26. and this thing Eve did acknowledge and this was a great comfort unto them And thus Eve the mother of us all was like unto Rachel and Leah who built the house of Israel And how was this Even by bringing forth a holy seed unto God and bringing them up in his feare And this made all the People and the Elders of Israel Ruth 4.11 12. to say unto Boze upon his wedding day The Lord make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah which two did build the house of Israel And doe thou worthily in Ephratah and be famous in Bethlem And let thy house be like the house of Pharez whom Tamar bare unto Judah of the seed which the Lord shall give thee of this young woman Note here that the holy seed the off-spring the issue are materialls for building the Lords house they are the comfort of Israel the glorie of Gods holy house and kingdome But where there is no off-spring no issue then there is not that joy that gladnesse that glory that expectation of succession as would be if there were children Wherefore the Lord for comforting his people Israel Isa 29.22 23. sayth in the 29th of Isaiah ver 22 23. Thus sayth the Lord who redeemed Abraham concerning the house of Jacob Jacob shall not now be ashamed neither shall his face now wax pale Ver. 23. But when he seeth his children the work of mine hands in the middest of him they shall sanctifie my Name and sanctifie the holy One of Jacob and shall feare the God of Israel Ver. 24. They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding and they that murmured Jer. 30.20 shall learne doctrine And in the 30th Chapter of Jeremiah Ver. 20. God sayth their children shall be as aforetime and their Congregation shall be established before me c. And in the 31. Chapter of Jeremiah Jer. 31.15 16 17. Ver. 15 16 17. Thus sayth the Lord to Rahel which wept for her children from two years old and under Mat. 1.16 17 18. and refused to be comforted because they were not Refraine thy voyce from weeping and thine eyes from teares for thy work shall be rewarded sayth the Lord and they shall come againe from the land of the enemie Ver. 17. And there is hope in thine end sayth the Lord that thy children shall come againe unto their own border Take notice heer how the Lord comforted his people and spake comfortably to Jerusalem And he is the same unto his people as he hath been heretofore His comfort is not lessened but is extended to all Saints from the least unto the greatest from the youngest to the eldest God never lesseneth his glorie nor his excellencie Psal 68.19 which he communicateth to his people but daily increaseth his blessings and multiplieth his benefits towards them and theirs and increaseth their glory doth not nor never did diminish it from them or their infants And therefore experience teacheth us that the infants of the Saints are the glory of the fathers house as heretofore they have bin Seeing then it is so cleare that the infants of beleevers are the glory of the fathers house they being of his houshold must have the priviledges of the house according to the appointment of the housholder and what is appointed for such vessells of honour and of glory Surely these holy vessells of the Lords sanctuary they being beleevers and Disciples of Christ being hallowed by the holy Ghost ought to be baptized See Mat. 28.19 Mark 16.16 Seventhly It is declared what this glory is and wherein this glory consisteth or what must be put upon Christ what glorious things even the off-spring and the issue sayth he that is to say their seed or children for they are the off-spring and the issue as may appeare by these Scriptures Job 5.25 Isa 21.8 48.19 61.9 65.23 Rev. 22.16 Gen. 48.5 6. And this is according to what the Apostle declareth in 1 Cor. 7.14 that the children of beleevers male or female the off-spring and the issue are a holy seed Now this off-spring and issue hath dependency upon Jesus Christ and he beareth them and will beare them Rom. 8.30 and blesse them in bearing them and justifie them in blessing them and sanctifie them in justifying them and glorifie them in sanctifying them He is all in all in them and for them and to them Their glory is the glory of his Fathers house and they are the glory thereof as hath been shewed before Wherefore let all Christian parents as they love Christ in procreation of their children dedicate their holy off-spring and blessed issue unto God and lay them upon the Lord Jesus Christ and say unto him Save us thy people both great small Psal 28.9 and blesse thine inheritance gather them and lift them up for ever Eighthly Further this holy off-spring and blessed issue which is the glory of the house of the God of all glory and power who is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ are called vessells of small quantitie vessells of small quantie are used to be set upon nayles sometimes for show for safetie and conveniencie glory and decency Now Jesus Christ is as a nayle the off-spring and the issue are the vessells of small quantitie and these holy vessells of small quantitie Jesus Christ is said to beare yea and to beare them all all vessells of small quantitie sayth the Text. Wherefore wee have no ground to cast away any of them or omit the least of these vessells though they are but of small quantitie Some peradventure will think that because the infants of beleevers are vessells of small quantitie that therefore they are no vessells or vessels of no quantitie or vessels of contempt or disgrace or such in whom there is no glory spiritually or such concerning whom they cannot judge or such in whom the seed of Gods grace is not to be esteemed to be But let them know that they doe violent injurie unto Jesus Christ and doe exceedingly eclipse the glorie of his Mediatorship For as the smallest vessells in the Lords Temple in the time of the Law were as holy as the greater though they could not containe so much So the Infants of beleevers who are the Lords vessells are as holy as those Saints who are past their minoritie though they being Infants through tendernes of yeares cannot containe or receive what the others who are aged can yet are they as precious in Christs estimation and have his holinesse upon them as aged