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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A79489	A Christian plea for infants baptisme. Or a confutation of some things written by A.R. in his treatise, entitutled, The second part of the vanitie and childishnesse of infants baptisme. In the answer whereof, the lawfulnesse of infants baptisme is defended, and the arguments against it disproved, by sufficient grounds and forcible reasons, drawn from the sweet fountains of holy Scripture. S.C.	Chidley, Samuel.	1644 (1644)	Wing C3836A; Thomason E32_2; ESTC R11383	164,121	171

furniture of my fathers kingdome And those whom the father giveth me I will not cast away It is not the will of your heavenly father that any of these little ones should perish * Mar. 18.1 Joh. 21.15 They are Israelites the lambs of my pasture I am the Shepheard of Israel and will in no wise cast them away He sayd Surely they are my people children that will not lie so he was their Saviour In all their affliction he was afflicted Isa 63.8 9. And as I being the Angel of Gods presence saved them and in my love and in my pittie redeemed them and bare them up in mine armes all the dayes of old so will I beare them now Therefore suffer the little children to come unto me and forbid them not for of such is the kingdome of God Wherefore let all those who oppose holy infants know that they thus far are enemies unto the Gospel and so doe sinne against God exceedingly in labouring to cast out these who are the glorie of our fathers house But the holy Prophet Isaiah sayth that upon all the glorie there shall be a covering * Isa 4.5 Now Infants being part of the glorie there is a covering upon them and this covering 59.21 is by the Spirit of the Lord for verification whereof see the Evangel Mat. 19.14 * Luk. 18.15 16 where Christ sayth Of such is the kingdome of heaven Mark 10.14 Of such is the kingdome of God And he tooke them up in his armes and put his hands upon them and blessed them Ver. 15. And by this it may appeare that all beleeving parents have ground to cast their infants upon the Lord Jesus Christ and for them to depend upon him who is as a nayle fastened in a sure place And whereas it is sayd All the glorie Wee are taught not to leave out any of the glorie least by abridging or debarring our Infants of their priviledges wee leave out some of the glorie if not the chiefest part and so highly disobey Gods Institution in leaving out his ordinances and his people which are the glory of his house It is to be minded that this word all is agreeable to the words of Christ when he sayth Of such is the kingdome of heaven for this word such as hath been observed * See before in pag. 92 93. 99. 100. is of a large extent and includeth them also they being the glory of the Fathers house So in Malachy the seed of the godly are called a godly seed Mal. 2.14 and in 1 Cor. 7.14 they are tearmed holy children God greatly delighteth in them and they are a glorie unto his Church Wherefore they are dignified with names accordingly And moreover Christ being set forth as a nayle unto these holy vessells it doth signifie unto us that these must be put upon him which have not a naturall capablenesse the holy off-spring and blessed issue the vessells in Gods temple must be fastened upon * Not but that they are of the Temple or mēbers of the Church but for more comelines honour and eminencie safetie glorie and dignitie they were appointed to be set on high by the Inhabitants of Jerusalem the house of Judah upō him who is as a nayle fastened in a sure place him by others If we compare the 17th of Genesis with this it will give light to the poynt for there the parents were commanded to circumcise their children which was unto them a signe and seale of the righteousnesse of the same faith which Abraham had and so it was a token that they belonged unto the Lord. And Baptisme being unto us as Circumcision was unto them wee therefore baptize our infants as they circumcized theirs and thereby doe confirme them unto Christ as they confirmed theirs And because he claimeth these holy vessells of small quantitie we therefore dedicate them unto him according as God commanded the Children of Israel concerning theirs and so we put them upon the Lord Jesus Christ and they are his peculiar treasure and he beareth them and approveth of our practise in bringing them unto him it being according to his Commandement who is as faithful in his house as Moses and is worthy of more glory then Moses * Heb. 3.3 inasmuch as he who buildeth the house is worthy of more honour then the house Now in this house there the Lord hath ordained his vessels of small quantitie to abide who are the off-spring and the issue and the glorie thereof And they may well be called so for God calleth and counteth them so And also where this glorie is there is still hope and it is and may in reason be expected that as they come to be capable so they will manifest actually the fruits of Gods Spirit and as they are children of light and inlightned so they will set it forth to the glory of the father of lights And as glorious starres in eminencie shew forth their excellencie in the bright firmament of that heavenly Jerusalem wherein they are planted and placed and will be also a meanes to encrease it not onely by grafting in those farre remote but also by propagation or multiplication of persons within themselves As Moses that good Christian who was like unto Christ sayth Deut. 1.11 The Lord make you a thousand times so many as you be Which speech is not to be limited to an addition of persons unto them from out of the world but it is meant that they should increase amongst themselves and so multiply even as a tree which though it have grafts yet groweth into many branches which branches are not grafted in but spring therefrom and grow thereupon Now where this glorie is not there is a want of it yea and a great want I may say indeed And why Because that the Church then is in expectation according to the ordinarie course of nature in a decaying condition I say the Church is readie to decay that is to say to be lessened more and more in this terrestriall habitacle for it is appointed unto men once to die and when they are dead they are gone and leave the remnant or none behind them But holy infants being in the Church and members of the same they are a glory unto it and it may well be expected according to the ordinary course of nature that they will out-live the other and so succeed them after their decease and so the celestiall glorie of the fathers will shine in the children according to the minde of God in this terrestriall world Now where this glorie is missing so that the generations in the Church doe passe away and none are borne to succeed there is a want in that respect and so consequently the supply thereof is to be desired which if it be made up then it is a glory an honour a rejoycing unto them So that though this hope deferred maketh the heart sicke yet the desire comming is as a tree of life Pro.

that is eight soules were saved by water the like figure whereunto Baptisme doth now also save us by the resurrection of Jesus Christ These then being onely figures and allusions cannot serve at all to prove the poynt in hand The Reply That the Text doth declare they were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea is cleare 1 Cor. 10.1 2. And this place doth make directly against particular parts of your Judgement as your denying the Baptisme of Infants to be lawfull affirming it to be onely a meer device and tradition of men brought into the world for politick and by-ends * See A. R. his first booke in the Epistle to the Reader Now here you may see who brought it into the world I will not say God did it for politick or by-ends for then I should be like the Serpent which would have perswaded Eve that God for such by-ends did forbid them to eat of the tree of knowledge of Good and evill thereby to possesse them with this as though God envied their happie estate But wee know that Gods love is not self-love his end was alwayes to doe his people good at their later end and by the baptizing of them in the cloud and the sea he did prophetically demonstrate what should be in the dayes of the Messias and herein aymed not onely at his owne glory but at his peoples comfort See A. R. his Vanitie of Childish Baptisme pag. 9. Secondly This place maketh against your Judgement in your holding and seeking to maintaine a necessitie of plunging the whole man in water in the ordinance of Baptisme for the Apostle sayth They were all baptized in the cloud and in the sea But wee will not say that they were plunged in water or over-whelmed with the water of the Sea for then they would have been like unto the Aegyptians for the Aegyptians were served after this manner * Exod. 14.27 28. Neither will wee affirme as you doe that the Israelites were in the cloud and in the sea dry without declaring what drines we meane for though they went upon dry ground and the waters were a wall unto them on the right hand and on the left * Ver. 22 23. yet wee may collect from the Scriptures that they were baptized * 1 Cor. 10.1 2. Exod. 14.19 Psal 77.15 16 17 18 19 20. with water out of the Cloud or Sea But this Text you labour to shift off by telling us that your question is not of baptizing unto Moses but of baptizing unto Christ by being dipped or buried in water c. And by this it appeareth that you think this Baptisme which the Children of Israel received was not the Baptisme of or unto Christ but meerly a Baptisme unto Moses But you should know that Moses was not such a one as you take him to be for he was faithfull in all his house and brought no innovations into Gods Church The Evangelicall Ordinances and Oracles then were the things of God If then they were the things of God Gods Sonne who was alwayes God with God was then the owner thereof and he being the Angel of Gods presence * Isa 63.8 9. who was with them in the cloud and in the sea when they were Baptized * Exod. 14 19. wee may safely conclude that the Baptisme was his as well as the rest of the Oracles and Ordinances And you should know that though the manner of Baptising then unto Moses and now unto Christ differeth in Circumstances yet the Baptisme is one and the same in substance and therefore the Apostle Paul telleth us they were all Baptized in the cloud and in the sea * 1 Cor. 10.2 and he putteth no other differences between the two Baptismes but that the one is as the other And therefore when we speake of that Baptisme wee cannot but speake of the Baptisme of Christ a Understand heer that I speake of the Baptisme of water for Christ is said by his authoritie to Baptise with water as well as with the holy Ghost fire and so the baptisme of water is his whether before or after his ascension for as the Baptisme of Christ is not the Baptisme of John yet the Baptisme of John was the Baptisme of Christ So though the Baptisme of Christ is not the Baptisme of Moses yet the Baptisme of Moses was the Baptisme of Christ For Moses was faithfull in all his house as a servant for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken afterwards but Christ as a Sonne who was counted worthy of more glory then Moses for he was the builder of the house and therefore is worthy of more honour then the house b Heb. 3.2 3. And seeing they were all baptized unto Moses who was commended for his faithfulnesse c Ver. 5. there is no just reason can be given to debarre the infants of beleevers from Baptisme now or from being baptized unto Christ seeing Christ is worthy of more glory th●n Moses and that the Sonnes d Ver. 6. priviledges are no lesse but more then the servants But you bring in exceptions against the baptisme then and so labour to make a disparitie between the baptisme then in the cloud and sea and this baptisme now for you say They were not dipt and then yeeld this reason for they were in the cloud and in the sea drie But I would know of you how long they were drie Surely they might be watered and yet not be dipt There is a Medium between being dipt and being dry Wee reade that the children of Isreal were baptised * 1 Cor. 10.2 but wee doe not reade that they were overwhelmed as the Aegyptians were * Exod. 14.28 But by this it appeareth that the Scripture is of no value unto you unlesse it will agree with your fond opinions for you would argue that because they were not dipped therefore they were not baptised at least not according to Christs institution And afterwards you say Nor was Baptisme then instituted So you have answered your selfe though it be after a writhen manner If Baptisme were not then instituted how could that Baptisme be according to the institution of Christ though they were dipt never so much I hope you will not say that dipping or plunging maketh Baptisme any more to be of Christs institution For then you will say that the Aegyptians were baptized according to Christs institution and not the Israelites But you should know t●at the Israelites were not baptized contrary to Christs institution The Angel of Gods presence was with his people then in the cloud and in the sea He was the Instituter Consider then I pray you what want was there of any thing needfull unto Baptisme Ob. 1. Did they want an Instituter Ans They had him with them in the sea Ob. 2. Did they want an Administrater Ans The Instituter could doe it or appoint it to be done by some other besides himselfe