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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A13880	A defence of the ecclesiastical discipline ordayned of God to be vsed in his Church Against a replie of Maister Bridges, to a briefe and plain declaration of it, which was printed An[no]. 1584. Which replie he termeth, A defence of the gouernement established in the Church of Englande, for ecclesiasticall matters.	Travers, Walter, 1547 or 8-1635.	1588 (1588)	STC 24183; ESTC S118502	153,730	244

lampe and till the lawfull authoritie set ouer vs may attende our pleas in Gods behalue and giue sentence with vs. Nowe followeth the second proposition or principle set downe in the Declaration and affirmed by the same to rise from the former the Replyer agreeth that it doeth so and that this rule is also true but in such sense as he maketh of it and not in the sense of the Declaration The sense he maketh of these wordes is that in all things that God hath prescribed the Church is to be directed by his order but denieth all things belonging to the externall regiment of the Church to be appointed by him which the declaratioÌ„ taketh necessarilie to followe of the former sentence This is the effect of his replie to this point But because hee had eyther read it in some booke written of the Discipline of the church or thought of him selfe the place might be alleadged for such purpose though it be not mencioned here hee laboureth to shewe that the verse of the 9. Chapter to the Hebrew proueth not that our Sauiour Christ hath appointed a certayne and necessarie order for the outwarde direction of the Church in all Ecclesiasticall matters which he sheweth in this maner The Apostle sayeth he referreth not this of the Tabernacle to the Church applying it after in the 9. chap. much lesse to the externall regiment in all Ecclesiasticall matters no not before in the 3. where yet he speaketh of Christe and of his Church but teacheth vs that in the inwarde and spirituall regiment of the Church wee are to acknowledge Christe the Lorde the Apostle and high Priest of our profession and to confirme our faith in him if we holde fast not this or that externall order of ecclesiasticall gouernement but the confidence and reioysing of hope vnto the ende Thus passeth hee ouer this second point wherin it is to be obserued that he confirmeth not his owne opinioÌ„ which is that our Sauior Christ hath not set downe anie certaine rule for the direction of the Church in all Ecclesiasticall matters neither aunswereth the reasons that are by diuers alleadged to this purpose but only laboureth to shewe that the 8. of the Hebr. 5. verse doeth not proue it Which howe he hath performed may be considered by this which followeth In exodus chap. 25. ver 40. whence the wordes alleadged out of the Epist to the Hebr. are taken after a particular rehearsall of the charge giuen to Moses concerning the making of the Tabernacle the furniture thereof the Arke of couenant the Table the Candlestickes with the Instrumentes necessarie for it and with speciall direction both for the matter fourme and measure of the same in the ende of all the charge giuen him is generallie rehearsed in these wordes See that thou make them according to the fashion paterne of the things which was shewed thee to see in the mouÌ„tayne In like maner in the next Chapter after a particular rehearsall of the thinges that belonged to the Tabernacle Towarde the ende of the Chapter it is saide So set thou vp the Tabernacle according to the likenes of that whiche was shewed thee to be seene in the mountayne Whereby it is manifest that the charge giuen to Moses was of making the thinges of the externall and outwarde Tabernacle whiche were in deede figures as the Apostle sayeth of better euen of heauenly thinges noted by the shewing of the same in the mountayne but the charge giuen to Moses was concerning the outwarde Tabernacle and externall order for making the same Which appeareth also by the 39. chap. of the same booke where it is written That all these thinges were made accordinge to all the charge that God had giuen to Moses In whiche respect the faithfulnes of Moses is commended by the Apostle in the 3. chapter to the Hebr. because he had performed all things according to the charge he had receyued Nowe the Apostle setting out the dignitie and honour of our Sauiour Christ by preferring him before Moses in the administration and gouuernement of the Church declareth Moses in deede to haue bin faithfull in all the house of God but yet as a seruant in the house whereas our Sauiour Christe was not as a seruaunt in the house but as the Sonne and heire gouerning and rulinge ouer his owne house Forasmuch then as euery one is more faithfull diligent and carefull of that which is his owne then anie that dealeth with that which is anothers it must needes be that our Sauiour Christ hath shewed him selfe more faithfull then Moses who was but a seruant in his house he being the sonne and heire gouerning ouer his owne house But if the faithfulnes of Moses appeared in all the house of GOD that is in all that belonged to the administration of it in euerie respect for that time to a sufficient direction euen in outwarde and externall regiment in all Ecclesiasticall matters as well small as great it must needes followe that he who hath performed incomparablie greater faithfulnes to the Church hath as farre as was necessarie for it left certayne and sufficient direction euen for the outwarde administration of it in all like matters But the Replyer seemeth to affirme that no certaine externall forme of ecclesiasticall gouernement is necessarie in that he noteth vpon the 3. to the Hebr. thus Wee are his house or Church if we holde faste not this or that externall forme of gouernement but the coÌ„fidence and reioysing of hope vnto the ende Wherein hee considereth not that a certaine outwarde order is necessarie for the keeping and holding fast of that confidence and reioysing of hope vnto the ende For the administration both of the Worde and of the Sacraments is outward aswell as is the order For the calling of suche as are to beare anie charge in the Church or the order for execution of the same this being a parte of the Pastors duetie no lesse nay more publique open and outward then sundrie other dueties are which-beloÌ„g to his Ministerie But a certaine order for the administration of the worde and of the Sacramentes was necessarie to be left to the Church by our Sauior Christ For Apostles and Prophetes Pastors and Doctors are set in the Church for the worke of the Ministerie till all the faithfull attayne to the vnitie of the faith and knowledge of the Sonne of God Which being necessarie to saluation the meanes in that the ordinarie dispensation of God are absolutelie necessarie thervnto must needs be in like maner by him appointed Zuencfeldius in deede and some of the Anabaptistes make small account of the preaching of the worde or of the Ministerie of the Sacramentes as beeing outwarde matters fitter for children in their opinions then for men of vnderstanding imagining such a perfection in themselues by immediate reuelations from God as needeth not anie suche helpes of outwarde meanes But they which discerne of this vngodly presumption and vanitie must needes confesse the

vppon all he denyeth the order of the primitiue Church to bee restored in all alleadgeth for reason the differences amongest them in one point or other of order office discipline ryte or ceremonie Of all which or any of them hee giueth no one instance After repeating this agayne in mention of the Scottishe Church he asketh whether their gouernement and order their making of officers and their administration of Sacramentes and booke of common prayers bee all one with the booke which hath bin nowe three times exhibited in Parliament With this repetition hauing gotten the aduauntage to make mention of a booke of common prayer here hee resteth and taketh this one example for all to shewe the differences amongest the reformed Churches Which he would shewe by affirminge of differences betweene the Scottishe booke of common prayer and the booke presented in Parliament written the same printed at Middelborough at London and at Scotlande aboue three hundred differences being a booke little bigger then an Almanacke All which pointes if they were true what reformed Churches are these that differ one from another which he vndertooke to prooue The Scottish Church is one trewe but where is the other from which it differeth except the other bee the booke presented written in Parliament in Englande he nameth none But coÌ„cerning the bookes if they haue so many differences why did he not note at the least some two or three of the principall It is not possible almost for a man to write out one and the same copye oftentymes or to print it but that there will bee some sentence clause worde syllable letter tytle or distinction changed If the differences had bin materiall notwithstanding it were neuer so impertinent I doubt not but hauing fallen into the mention of it hee would haue taken payne to haue noted some of the principall printed copies of that which was written and presented he nameth three whiche should be printed in three sundrie Countries Englande Scotlande and the lowe Countries a matter of as much vntrueth as the rest of his replies As for the bignes of the booke of common prayer presented in Parliament which he to disgrace it sayeth was the bignes of an Almanacke I knowe not of what bignes he may haue seene some Almanacke for all are not of one equall bignes but if he would iustlie haue founde faulte with that booke for being too little he should haue noted that it had wanted some poynt necessarie to be in such a booke eyther for publique prayers or fot administration of Sacramentes or any such like matter But if it haue all such things in it at large there is no faulte iustly to bee founde with the smallnes of it It might easilie haue bin greater if it had bin stuffed with impertinent matters nothing belonging to the Ministers office nor warrantable by the worde of God as with orders for priuate administrations of the Sacramentes Churching of Women Buryall seruice Confirmation making of Priestes and Deacons Bishops and Archbishops with a number of other such like But these and such like being matters neyther warranted by the worde nor sette down in the auncient Lyturgies bearing the names of Iames the Apostle of Chrisostome and of Basile nor in the Liturgie of the reformed Churges it seemeth there was no cause to make it bigger with such stuffe A little point of a Diamond is more worth then a great deale of such siluer as wee had at the beginning of her Maiesties raigne and nowe to hir highnes immortalll prayse and enriching of all the subiectes with out anie offence for the innouation and to the great contentement of all men is made finer and brought to the ancient standard appointed by lawe Bookes and namely of this vse are not to be wayed at the Kings beame where they waighe packes and vessels of great bulke and quantitie but in golden waightes and ballances where things of pryce and valewe are vsed to be wayed A masse of owre and an ingotte of siluer or golde are greater before they come to the furnace but after the fyre hath tried and refined them from drosse base mettall the body of it is not so great yet is it more ritch and precious then it was before In like maner that little booke if it haue bin well purged and tryed and oftentymes refined in the Lordes furnace by workemen of skill and faithefull in their seruice notwithstanding it be but litle yet may be much more worth then some other of greater bignes and embased with much allay No man findeth faulte nowe that a shilling is neere as little as a slyp-tester was at the beginninge of hir Maiesties raigne but rather acknowledged herein that hir Maiestie hath deserued all humble thankes of all hir subiects with most faithfull duetie and seruice to her highnes great prayse and honour Oh that it might please GOD in whose hande the hartes of Princes are as the Bardge is in the Bardgmans to turne whither he will to turne this Royall Bardge of her Maiesties harte towarde the Lordes sanctuarie to consider well all things in it and to touche the golde and siluer of it which ought to be ritchest as the sicle of the Sanctuarie also was wont to be and finding it besides all the abhominable drosse that her Maiestie through the goodnes of God hath taken from it to holde yet much allay and base mettall to coÌ„maunde it to be tryed and refyned yet seuen times in the fire till all the siluer and golde in it and the treasure belonging to it should be fine precious and answerable to the standarde ordayned by the lawe of God and the Temple of the Lorde in a spirituall maner riche and royall as in the dayes of Salomon Surely if the Lord should vouchsafe so to blesse vs much lesse cause should any man haue to quarrell at the small quantitie of the booke of coÌ„mon prayer or any other pieces of the holy treasure and vessells of the Sanctuarie being incomparably enriched in estimation and pryce but rather should haue more iust cause then for crying Downe the bace money and enritching our coyne according to a standarde appointed by the lawes of the Realme to acknowledge with all humble thankes and increase of most duetifull loue and allegance a care so Princely so Christian so agreeing with the like presidents of her right noble Ancetours hir Highnes Father and Brother of worthie memorie and hir owne religious most honourable beginnings to the exceeding great encrease of the honour of Almightie God hir Maiesties immortall prayse with God and men and the vnspeakeable reioycing and comfort of many thousandes of her most loyall and duetifull subiectes Therefore it is not the smallnes of that booke that can disgrace it seeinge that commeth of the taking away of manie vnnecessarie partes and seeing that it conteyneth all such partes in it as are necessarie and lyke to haue bin in any Liturgie reported to haue bin within any time of

downe in these wordes By which it is manifest that the regiment and gouernement thereof dependeth not vppon the authoritie of Princes but vpon the ordinaunce of God who hath most mercifullie and wisely so established the same that as with the comfortable ayde of Christian Magistrates it may singularlie flourish and prosper so without it it may continue and against the aduersaries thereof preuayle For the Church craueth helpe and defence of Christian Princes to continue and goe forwarde more peaceably and profitably to the setting vp of the kingdome of Christ but all hir authoritie she receyueth immediatly froÌ„ God The Replyer can not or will not see that which is manifest but denieth this consequence to seeme so to him and here his seas ryse so hye that he sayth it is manifest violent conclusion yea a manifest iniurie both to God and his Church and to all the authoritie of all Christian Princes and most manifest wrong vnto her Maiestie If the lawe of God had not forbidden it that anie matter should be helde certayne in iudgement vnder two or three witnesses and if the testimonie of one man were inough to condemne another it would haue gone hard I see with the authour of the declaratioÌ„ but seeing his worde is to carrie no more credit with it then he can bring sufficient reason for it to make it good let his reason be considered His reason is that it is insinuated that hir Maiestie for clayming supreme authoritie in ecclesiasticall causes claymeth withall that the regiment of the Church dependeth vppon hir authoritie Which if any reasonable man liuing that is not a parciall fauourer or fauourite of the Hierarchie can gather out of these wordes of the Declaration I pleade for it no longer But this he sayeth is aggreeued in the opposition of Gods ordinance to the authoritie of Princes as if Magistracie were not the ordinance of God addinge that neyther Papistes nor Anabaptistes could haue set downe a sharper coÌ„clusion against th' authoritie of Princes then this is Whiche are false alarums and exclamations or accusations as vayne as the curse that is causeles Prou. 26.2 and therefore as Salomon sayth vanishe away in the ayre Which although it haue no proofe nor sense it it yet passing on to the next wordes of the DeclaratioÌ„ Which he sayeth are added to smooth the former hee maketh another loude outcrie This is another great iniurie offered to Christian Princes who by these wordes are thrust not onely out of all authoritie in the Church but eyther out of the Church altogither as no part of it at all or at least a contentions part striuing in the Church for authoritie His proofe is this For what els meane they by these words The Church craueth helpe and defence of Christian Princes but that they separate the Christian Prince and the Church If the honourable sworde of iustice committed to soueraigne Princes for protecting the good subiect and punishinge the euill were at the commaundement of such Chapleynes as this Replyer is I see by his often accusations of slaundering and iniuring the Prince without all cause or colour it would leese the honour it ought to haue being made a weapon of iniustice In the lawe of Moses if a man had charged another with any crime Deut. 19.19 if he made not good proofe of his accusation as he would haue done to another by his false witnesse so was it to be done to him whether it were a matter of member or of lyfe If the Replyer feared to bee dealte with according to this rule he would not bee so readie to laye so great crymes to any mans charge vppon no reason But because informers may bee hearde they saye for the Prince and neuer come to question although the accusation be neuer so vniust it seemeth hee emboldeneth him selfe vppon some such like assurance By this occasion hee inquireth who should bee meant by the Church whether the people whiche hee thinketh can not or the foure Tetrarkes as hee calleth them in his scorners speache and this hee taketh and compareth them with popishe priestes who hee sayeth gaue the same power and authoritie vnto Christian Princes that is giuen heere and with better tearmes Wherein if hee looke backe to former tymes or consider well what the papistes esteeme of the othe of the Supremacie and what is done in kingdomes subiect to the Bishop of Roome and compare it with that which the Declaration and all they in whose behalfe it was published doe most willinglie acknowledge by protestation and also by othe to bee the moste due honour of the Soueraigne Magistrate hee shall easelie see howe vniust this charge is as well as are his other There was a purpose I thinke hee will saye when the statute for recognition of hir Maiesties Souueraingtie was made to agnise to the vttermost by that othe all the Regalities rightes and honours due to that high and soueraigne estate Whiche if it were attayned vnto howe can hee charge anie with derogation from the Princes right and iust authoritie that taketh willinglie that othe and acknowledgeth the authoritie there agnized euen as it is expounded by hir Maiesties owne iniunctions by the Articles of the conuocation house and sundrie bookes published with great allowance of the state But to this poynt there is sufficientlie sayde before both in this treatise and in the answere to the preface of his replie He cauilleth here about that the Declaration sayeth All the authoritie which the Church hath is immediatlie of God and mooueth manie friuoulous questions about it But if hee had disallowed it he should haue entred into the handling of it and shewed by sufficient proofe of holy Scripture that the Church holdeth not all hir authoritie immediatly of God but holdeth some part of it mediatlie of Princes as meane Lordes vnder the highest Some offer hee maketh of it alleadginge the authoritie of the godlie and vertuous Kings and Rulers of Jsraell and Iuda which if it be all that he can say in that cause let him vnderstande that as it hath bin in this cause professed on our behalfe by some other so nowe agayne we truely and vnfaynedly professe to acknowledge in Christian Princes all that power and authoritie that the Prophetes doe any where iustifie to haue bin in the Rulers of Gods people at any time I adde yet further that whereas he pretendinge to speake most largelie of this authoritie sayeth Princes haue not the ecclesiasticall Ministers peculiar offices and ecclesiasticall authoritie to execute the actes proper to their ecclesiasticall functions but haue authoritie to ouersee gouerne and direct all ecclesiasticall persons to doe their dueties in all ecclesiasticall causes and haue the highest authoritie that is ciuill in the Church for the orderinge disposinge and authorizinge anie order or constitution ecclesiasticall in indifferent matters Wee acknowledge and professe the same Where if we be nothing short of the largest measure that hee can laye before vs I trust he will hereafter teache his tongue to speake and his penne to write of vs more agreeably to Christian charitie wisedome and modestie then hee hath done in this first booke of his Reply Whiche ending heere with a contrarie conclusion to the Declaration for the order of the treatise a matter little worthie the striuing about I leaue the consideration of it to the Christian Reader vppon such reasons as haue bene debated betweene vs and ende also here the firste part of this my labour FINIS

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