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The second part of the svrvey of the articles of the late reiected peace wherein the invaliditie and nvllitie of the said peace is proved, I. by the revocation of the Marques of Ormands commission before any peace was legally concluded &c., 2. by the defect by Walt Enos ...
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Enos, Walter.
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Nicholas Plunket Sir Robert Talbot Sir Richard Everard Dermot O Brien Patricke Darcy Geofrey Browne Iohn Dillon and Richard Martins Esquires authorizing them or any five of them to treate agree and conclude with the Maâ—ques of Ormond a firme lasting and setled peace in such manner as they in their iudgements should thinke fit and most available for the said Catholiques and generall good of this realme 34. For the Councells warrant to grant this commission they alleage in the same act an act past in the generall assembly held at Kilkenny the 20. of Iuly 1644. Where say they in the act of their Councell the said assembly authorized the foresaid 13. persons to treate agree and conclude with the Marques for setling and concluding of a sirme and perfect peace otherwise to conclude of a further Cessation Where the Reader is carefully to observe that the assembly according to the Councels own relation appoints indeed those 13. persons as a Committee of the Treatie but doth not limit the same unto any five of them as the act of the Councell hath done I have made search among the Acts of that assembly but could not finde any act dated the twentieth of Iuly 1644. I have indeed found an act of assembly made 10 Augusti 1644. where it is ordered that the undernamed shall be super added to the Commissioners lately authorized by Commission to goe to His Maiestie now to goe to the Lord Lieutenant to treate with his Honour for setling a firme peace within this Kingdome or a further Cessation of Armes The persons undenamed are the Lord Archbishop of Dublin Earle of Antrim Lord Viscount Mountgaret Sir Richard Everard Patricke Darcy and Iohn Dillon Esquires The Commissioners to goe to His Majestie were the Lord of Muskerie Nicholas Pluaket Alexander Mac Donnell Sir Robert Talbot Colonell Dermot O Brien Geoffrey Browne and Richard Martin The like Commission was made by the second and last Supreme Councell unto the same Committee of Treatie de verbo ad verbum as appeareth in the abridged registers of the Acts of the same Councell 35. To shew the insufficiencie defects and nullitie of the said commission wee neede not entertaine sharpe-sighted Lawyers the errors and defects thereof are so grosse and palpable as men meanly versant in that profession may without difficulty discover them Wee say then in the first place that it appeareth not by any act of assembly that I could light on that either of both Councells were ever authorized or enabled by the Kingdome to give any Commission to the foresaid Committee of Treatee either to treate of or conclude a peace with his Excellency Not in any act of assembly past the twentieth of May 1644. as the foresaid Commission given by the first Councell doth mention for no such act can I finde in the Records of the assembly notwithstanding I have together with the Clarke of the assembly made diligent soarch for the same As for the Act of assembly 10. Augusti 1644. even now mentioned number 34. you see the kingdome selected indeed the foresaid Committee of Treaty but never by that act authorized the Supreme Councell to give them a Commission to that effect Yet that such an authoritie is necessarie is supposed by the Councell it selfe which groundeth it selfe on the like authoritie as you have heard numb 34. for as the assembly onely in the name of the whole kingdome and not the Supreme Councell had power to send Commissioners to His Majestie so the Assembly onely and not the Councell had power to send Commissioners to His Lieutenaut to treate and conclude a peace Yet supposing such a Commission or power were given by the Assembly unto the first Supreme Councell wee say in the second place the same or the like commission and power ought to have beene renewed by act of Assembly and given unto the new Supreme Councell authorizing them to give Commission to the foresaid committee of Treaty to conclude a peace and to guide and direct them therein because if any such Commission was given by any assembly unto the first Supreme councell both that commission and any other commission given by the Councell in vertue thereof to the Committee of the Treaty is extinguished and dyes with the same Supreme Councell because as morte mandantis so morte mandatarij extinguitur mandatum saith the law as by the death of him that gives a Commission or mandat so by the death of him that receives it the Commission or mandat is extin guished If he for example that gives or receives a letter of Atturney to prosecute a cause or to doe any other service dyes the letter of Atturney dyes with him The same wee may say of Agents or Ambasladors sent from or to any Pâ—inces or Prelates Accordingly wee say that the first Supreme Councell being removed from that office are civilly dead and therefore any authority given them in this particular or by them in vertue thereof given to the Committee of Treatie for in these two respects the Councell may be called Mandatarij and Mandantes is extinguished and dyes with the late removed Councell 36. It is true that the common power and authoritie given to the Supreme Councell by the Modell of Government may peradventure descend upon the succeeding Supreme Councells because by the Modell of Govurnment that common power is expresly declared to be conferred by the Kingdome on the Supreme Councell for the time being but the case is other wise in this weighty matter whereon depends the securitie and safetie of Religion King and Subject and therefore being transcendent and extraordinarie it must be acted by and concluded by transcendent and extraordinarie power and as the Commissioners appointed to goe to his Majestie must have beene established and appointed by the whole Kingdome because indeed their imployment concerned the whole Kingdome so for the same reason the Commissioners appointed to treate with His Majesties Lieutenant in this particular must be authorized either mediatly or immediatly by the whole Kingdome for as much as their imployment concernes the whole Kingdom If His Majestie did conferre any power or authoritie upon any Corporation which hee would have to continue in the succeeding Magistrats thereof hee is carefull in his patents or Charters to use these words to the Maior or to the Maior and Citizens for the time being to shew that his intention is not to make this power personall onely but in that commission which the first Supreme Councell pretend to have had from the assembly there are no such words used authorizing the Supreme Councell for the time being Much more may be here said which I leave to our learned Lawyers discussion whereof some vnto whom I have propounded this difficultie have assured me that for this respect the Commission given our Committee of Treaty by the Councell wassufficienr and invâ—alid And when I admired that the Supreme Councell dared attempt such an enterprize without a full and
more of them to treate conclude a peace such a Commission is not nor never was extant in rerum natura Ergo the peace grounded thereupon is void In the same preface it is said articles of peace concluded c. betweene the Marques on the one part and these 7. Mountgaret Muskery Sir Robert Talbot Dermot O Brien Patricke Darcy Geffrey Browne and Iohn Dillon on the other part yet five onely of these 7. concluded the peace Mountgaret and Dermot O Brien never signed sealed or delivered the peace Yea Mr. Dermot O Brien made publique protestation against it and manifested unto the world aswell his aversion against the proceedings of the rest of the Committee in that treaty as against the iniquitie of the said peace for which hee deserves from his Countrey immortall praise How then is it true that those 7. concluded the peace when as 5. onely concluded it These I trow are errors and defects sufficient enough to prove the insufficiencie and invaliditie of the committee of the treatyes Commission and consequently the nullitie of the peace thereupon concluded which we pray all our learned and disinterelled Lawyers to discusse together with those other arguments we produce in the rest of the paragraphes and to strengthen the same by their approbation apposition of the authoritie of our Lawes of England which I could not well peruse for want of leasure and commoditie § 10. The invaliditie of the said peace proved by the revocation of our Committees Commission namely by the protestation of the principall part of the Body politicke of the kingdome other Inhibitions 1. BEsides the nullitie of the foresaid peace by the insufficiencie of our committees commission wee prove the same by the revocation of the same commission if it were ought worth before the peace was concluded Heare then the Lord Nuncius his protestation THE LORD NVNCIVS HIS PROTESTATION MOst Illustrious and Reverend Lords VVhere as before the imprisonment of the Earle of Glamorgan I abundantly represented unto your honours that the peace which then was in agibation was 〈◊〉 on any Fitles neyther honest nor secure but scand alous in the opinion of his Holyneisse the rest of the Catholicke â—rineâ—sland that for that cause â—â— would in no sort â—â—ndescend thereunto and whereas the same peace after the release of the said Earle is as yet lessei secure by reason of many accidents that befell seeing his Holynesse hath sent 〈◊〉 me the heads of the peace agreed upon at Rome between his Holynesse and her Majesty the Queenes Agent with promise of the Kings information thereof which heads are both honest by reason of the persons more ample then all the points hitherto treated of and doe promise all the security which may be had in these circumstances I urge with your Honours that you expect the Originals of the said heads that in the interim no other peace be concluded but that the Treaty of peace be deferred least you wrong his Holynes his benignity towards this kingdom your Honors incur his indignation together with the aversion of all Princes chiefly seing that the Instrument signed by your selves remaynes in my custody which before my coming over your Honours delivered as an answer to Master Spinola of happy memory wherein you promised to doe in this affaire whatsoever I upon consideration of the state of the kingdome should thinke fit to be done If otherwise you proceed I doe besides the breach of your promise protest that I doe not neyther will I consent unto any peace or change of things or government in this kingdome untill upon view consideration of the foresaid heads of the Popes peace it shal be maturely established what shal be more profitable to this kingdome And if â—hings be otherwise carried I protest though with sadnesse of heart that all damages which by this acceleration of peace shall befall the Kings Maiesty and this miserable kingdome proceeded not from the faults of any other but of those who having posâ—posed the reverence and gratitude due to his Holynesse doe abuse their owne private affections and interest to the destruction of the Commonwealth From the Pallace of our residence the sixt day of February 1645. stylo veteri Your Honours most addicted Servant Ioan. Baptist Archiepiscop Firman Nuncius 2. According to this protestation the Lord Nuncius the very next day following to wit the seventh of February and againe the ninth of February came personally to the assembly and having declaâ—ed the affection and care the See Apostolique had of this Nation sometime for learning and sanctity called the Iland of Saints declared that his Holynes to succour the Catholique Confederates neglected and postposed the warres by the Turkes against the Christians by the Swelandeâ— against the Emperor and other warres neerer home that he laboured and at length prevailed with His Majestie that the Roman Catholiques should not onely have and quietly possesse their Church and Church-livings but also that the Catholique Natives should be made capable of all places of command honour pâ—ofit or trust in the civill marshall or Ecclesiastique government together with many other extraordinary graces and concessions that he daily expected the articles of this peace and therefore prayed seriously that the conclusion of any peace with Ormond which was the worst of all other peaces might be protracted at least till May assuring us if we persâ—vered constantly in the cause of God that the Popes Holynes and other Catholique Princes would never be wanting to supply the Confederate Catholiques with sufficient meanes and money to maintaine the warre and that he himselfe in the interim would defend Leinster against Ormond in case he condescended not to a cessation for so long a time This motion was seconded by noble Glamorgan by two severall speeches delivered by him in the Assembly 12. and 19 February which was accepted and entertained by the whole house with such joy and alacrity as you might descry in their outward gesture their inward consolation 3. Our councell and committees contrarie to the resolution of the whole house would not expect so long they were not foure dayes chosen when they gave a new commission to the committee of Treaty to conclude a peace with his Excellency which was signed and sealed 28. March as you have heard It was a businesse long before concluded as you may gather by Iustice VValsh one of the purchasers above mentioned his speech delivered in the house 10. February wherein he affirmed that he himselfe brought all things points and matters to a full period according our wishes with the Lord Marques but said he the imprisonment of Glamâ—rgan hindred the sigâ—ing thereof Yet I reade in the diurnall of that day that the chaire-man Mr. Thomas Tyrell informed the house that our Agents were in Dublin eleven weeks and yet were not able to conclude any thing And Mr. Geofrey Browne declared in publicke assembly 15. February that the