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A28899	A defence of the Scriptures, and the Holy Spirit speaking in them, as the chiefe iudge of controversies of faith ... with a vindication of that honour due to magistrates, ministers, and others ... in a relation of a disputation at Chesterfield in the county of Darby, between some ministers of the Gospell and James Naylor, an erring Quaker ... : with some animadversions upon a lying relation of that disputation, published by Iames Nayler / by Immanuel Bourne ...	Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672.	1656 (1656)	Wing B3852; ESTC R23281	45,977	64

from the Jayler Acts 16. He came trembling and fell downe before Paul and Silas and said Sirs or Lords or masters what must I do to be saved therefore it is lawfull for the ministers of Christ now to be called sirs or masters and to receive such titles or respects which are due to their ministeriall place and honourable calling The Argument was not then so fully and largely given but to this effect Mr Bourn was pressing to prove this truth But James Nayler like the deafe Adder turned away his eare and would not answer and according to his practice when he was not able to answer an argument Mr Bourn and Mr Billingsley stood in the reading seat and James Nayler was in a seat neer Mr Major a good distance from the reading seate looked aside and spake at randome to the people in a bragging vapouring manner what he could doe and while we were pressing him to answer we did see Mr Major and some other nere him going forth of their seats and Nayler and others following and so the Disputation ended abruptly But if any understanding Christian who is not byassed by misinformation of his judgement consider these Arguments they are sufficient to prove that honourable respect that is due to the ministers of Christ not that Christs ministers should ambitiously seeke after honours or honourable titles for that Christ forbids and that Gods faithfull Embassadours affect not endeavour not But yet when false teachers seeke to disgrace and prophane persons with their wicked plots and designes to dishonour us and our honourable ministeriall calling we are bound in conscience with St Paul to magnifie our office and to vindicate our selves from such wicked practises of erring Quakers and of prophane ungodly malicious men who neglect and contemne the Ordinances of Jesus Christ Thus as neer as I can remember out of my notes taken and what I could learn of others I have given a just and true relation of that Dispute at Chesterfield if it were worthy of that name being a wrangling by that man who had not artificiallie scarce naturall order of reasoning but like a boisterous railing fellow who by loud out-cries little or nothing to the purpose sought to deceive the people A witty honest Gentleman who was present at the Dispute asked his name and one told him his name was James Nayler to whom as I was informed he replyed certainly his name should no more be called James Nayler but James Rayler for said he I never heard a more bawling railing reviling fellow talke or words to that purpose The Lord give him repentance if it be his will I have said sufficient to the Question to prove the lawfulnesse of giving honour to Christs Ministers That it is lawfull to give hanour Now I shall only add a few Arguments to prove the lawfulnesse yea duty of giving outward honour as well as inward honour to Magistrates and others according to their place and dignity whatsoever these Quakers gatrulate to the contrary It is lawfull to give the title of Lord and Lady and the like and to declare our due respect by outward testimonies of the honour and due regard we doe owe unto them as to superiours Iames Nuyler It is true James Nayler being examined upon an indictment of blasphemy against him at the Sessions at Appleby in January 1652. See the briefe reply to some part of a scurrilous and lying pamphlet called Sauls errand to Damascus printed 1653. kept on his hat before the Bench and when Justice Pearson one of the Justices commanded to put off their hats James Nayler answered I doe it not in contempt of authority And he being asked againe by Colonell Briggs If hee were in the Parliament House wouldest thou keep it on To whom James answered if God should keep me in the same mind I am now in I should Then Colonell Briggs replied I knew thou wouldest contemne authority The same hath been the practice of divers other of the seduced seducing Quakers before the honourable Justices of the Peace in severall Countries And Naylers pretence of giving honour inwardly when they refuse to give any outward civill respect what is it but pharisaicall dissimulation instead of sincere humility and obedience or duty to those whom the Lord hath set over us in power and authority for his glory and the good of his people For shall we not judge the tree by its fruits But let me evidence duty a little in this respect Argument 1 1. Those who by Gods Ordinance are set in place above others in Gods stead for the peoples good they are to have honour given to them above others to be declared outwardly as well as setled inwardly in the hearts of men But Magistrates supreme and inferiour Judges and Justices and such as are of higher or lower place and power they are by Gods Ordinance set in place above others in Gods stead for the peoples good Therefore they are to have honor given unto them above others to be declared outwardly as well as setled inwardly in the hearts of men The major or first proposition is most agreeable to reason and order even in nature it selfe The herbes and grasse of the field which are inferiour and have but a vegetive life they doe service and give a kind of obedience in Gods Ordinance for the nourishment and service of the beasts and cattell which are superiour in nature and have besides a vegetive or growing life a life of sence also which is more excellent Againe these brute creatures which have only the vegetive and sensitive life they are inferiour unto and doe service and yield obedience unto man which is a more noble creature superiour to the other as having not only a vegetive and sensitive but also a rationall life and more excelling inferiour creatures and man hath yet the great God and Creator of heaven and earth above him to whom he doth owe honour and service both in soule and body Rom. 12.1 Thus in order of nature and thus in order of government the Comm-wealths and governments of Nations there is and ought to be order of superiour and inferiour 1 Cor. 14.33 for as in the Churches of the Saints so in Common-wealths God is not the Author of Confusion but of peace and good order in all And so an orderly respect is to be had to every superiour according to their place and power The Apostle Paul giveth evidence to this at full Rom. 13.1 c. Let every soule be subject unto the higher powers for there is no power but of God and the powers that be ordained of God they are Gods Ordinance and hee is the Minister of God to thee for good For this cause pay you tribute also for they are Gods ministers attending continually upon this very thing And hence he concludes render therefore to all their dues tribute to whom tribute custome to whom custome feare to whom feare honour to whom honour Thus honour is a

due as well as tribute or custome or any other service I might call in the Apostle Peter to witness the same 1 Pet. 2.13 14 17. but I refer the Reader to the Scripture it self these testifie an honor due to our superiours And for the minor or second proposition That magistrates supreme or inferiour are Gods Ordinance set and approved by God for government above others the places alledged might suffice but if you read Exod. 18.21 23. when Jethro Moses Father in law gave him that good counsell to provide out of all the people able men such as feare God men of truth hating covetousnesse and to place them over them to be Rulers of thousands of hundreds of fifties and of tens And if thou doe this thing and God command thee so then shalt thou be able to endure and this people shall goe to their place in peace And Moses did so and God himselfe doth approve of this order of government of superiours and inferiours and giveth Moses order to gather to God seventy Elders and the Lord taketh of the Spirit of government that was upon Moses and gave it to the seventy Elders as you may read Numb 11.16 17 25. Thus are Governours over the people of Gods owne ordination as superiours and so a higher honour and respect is due unto them Argument 2 Againe that outward manifestation of honour and those titles of honour which have been given by holy men in Scripture to Princes Magistrates and Judges and others according to their places and dignities which are not reproved by Gods Spirit that may lawfully bee given now to Princes to Judges Magistrates Governours and others according to their places and dignities But outward manifestation of honour and honourable titles have been given by holy men in Scripture to Princes Judges and Magistrates and others according to their place and dignities therefore they may be given now to such without sinne yea it is our duties so to doe Psal 82.16 Doth not the Scripture call them Gods as in Gods stead And to evidence both propositions Example 1 I shall give you severall examples If we read that place Numb 11.28 when the Spirit of God rested upon Eldad and Medad in the campe Joshua in his zeale speaks to Moses to forbid them and cals him Lord and Joshua said my Lord Moses forbid them he giveth him an honourable title my Lord Moses And did not wise Abigal call David Lord when he was comming with his Souldiers to destroy churlish Nabal for his ingratitude 1 Sam. 25 24 25 c. Yea divers times in that Chapter she giveth David the honourable title of Lord. And did not good David cry after King Saul and giveth him this honourable title my Lord the King 1 Sam. 24.8 And doth he not then give outward reverence to Saul to witnesse his honorable respects to Saul as to his superiour in place and power the text saith David stooped with his face to the earth and bowed himselfe This is far unlike Naylers and his quaking companions carriage even to Princes Magistrates and Judges and Justices of the peace to stand with their hats on their heads and to speak to them in an irreverent manner thou man or thee man who sittest in the place of judgement do this or that as some of them have said and done May I not say the same of Abner who as David testifieth was a Prince and a great man in Israel yet when he came to David he gave him titles of honour I will goe saith he and gather all Israel unto my Lord the King 2 Sam. 3.21 What need I tell you of that great Prophet of God Elijah doth he not call Ahab Obadiahs Lord goe tell thy Lord behold Elijah is here 1 Kin. 18.14 Though Ahab was a wicked man yet hee doth not take from him his title of honour And doth not the Spirit of God give the title of Lord to that noble man on whose hand the King leaned 2 Kin. 7.2 What need I tell you that in the New Testament the blessed Evangelist Luke in that his history of the Gospell which he did write to Theophilus he giveth him that honourable title most excellent Theophilus Luke 1.3 a title of great honour and high esteem given to Theophilus And blessed Paul calleth Festus the Governour of that Province noble Festus Acts 26.25 27. And in the same Chapter when he was before King Agrippa to answer for himselfe he doth not in a proud or blind ignorant sottish manner call Agrippa thou man or thee man as the Quakers doe but King Agrippa believest thou the Prophets I know that thou believest Thus do these Saints give titles of honour according to mens place and dignities I will name but one more and that is the blessed Evangelist St John that beloved Disciple of Christ John 19.26 in his second Epistle hee giveth that gratious woman to whom he writ her title of honour and respect verse 1. The Elder saith he to the elect Lady And againe verse 5. I beseech thee Lady Thus doth the blessed Apostle give titles of honour to whom honour belongs And these certainly are witnesses sufficient to justifie this truth against the Quakers that there may be some kinde of respect civill respect I mean though not to corrupt or flatter yet to know and owne difference of persons and to give to each that honor which is due to them in their severall places Againe as it is a duty to give honour and respect so it is lawfull for Princes Judges Justices and others to this honour when in a right and due manner it is given unto them I shall call in only one witnesse to evidence this truth besides those whom I named before to whom honor was given of men none of which godly men did reject that honor which was ascribed given unto them which had it been unlawfull to have received they would certainly have refused The witnesse is that holy man Job one that feared God and eschewed evill and what doth he testifie of himselfe you may read Job 29.7 8 c. when I went out of the gate saith he through the City when I prepare my seat in the street the young men saw me and hid themselves and the aged arose and stood up Righteous Job was an honourable and just Judge he was eies to the blind and feet to the lame he was a father to the poor and the cause which he knew not he searched it out he did break the jawes of the wicked and plucked the spoile out of his teeth therefore was Job honourable and both old and young did honor Job not in their hearts only as the Quakers would have magistrates honoured but outwardly also in giving all civill outward honour unto them according to their severall place and dignities and good reason it should be so For who more honourable profitable and necessary then good religious just and righteous Judges and Magistrates in a Common-wealth When justice is