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A09109 A temperate vvard-vvord, to the turbulent and seditious VVach-word of Sir Francis Hastinges knight vvho indeuoreth to slaunder the vvhole Catholique cause, & all professors therof, both at home and abrode. Reduced into eight seueral encounters, vvith a particuler speeche directed to the Lordes of her Maiesties most honorable Councel. To vvhome the arbitriment of the vvhole is remitted. By N.D. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1599 (1599) STC 19415; ESTC S114162 126,552 136

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agaynst them in that behalf And with this I will leaue also Sir Francis as simple a soule as I founde him but yet somewhat more shufled out of his cloutes and discouered for a conscienceles corrupter of his booke of conscience To Catholique recusantes whome he impugneth I can say no more but that they are happie men to haue such an aduersarie and that the course which they haue hitherto held is most honorable and pious before God and man I meane in shewing first their dutie towardes God by standing constantly and suffering for their conscience and secondly in offering all loyal obedience in temporal causes to their liege prince And lastly in edifying their neighbours by their good lyfe and behaueour VVhich is the exhortation of Saynt Peter in this verie place alleaged Hauing your conuersation good sayth he among these people in such sorte as they considering your good woorkes in that they go about to slander you as wicked men God may be glorified therby in the day of his visitation And agayne the will of God is that you by your good lyf do stop the mouthes of foolish and ignorant men that talke agaynst you c. And yet further this is a great grace if any man suffer sorow for his conscience towardes God being afflicted vniustly for if you suffer for sinne ●or euil lyf it is no glorie but if while you liue well you do suffer patiently it is a great grace with God ●for in this is your vocation and to this you are called for that Christ suffered so for vs and left you example to follow his steppes c. And as for obedience you are to yeeld it simply my deare brethren and playnly as I haue sayed with a true loyal harte and good will as vnto Christe himself vnto all kynde of magistrates whatsoeuer temporal or spiritual though yet with that distinction which Christe him self appoynted quae sunt Caesaris Caesari quae sunt Dei Deo geuing vnto Caesar those thinges that are Caesars and reseruing to God those thinges that are Gods VVhich distinction Saynt Paul to the Romans expoundeth more particularly when hauing commanded all superior powers to be obeyed euen for conscience sake as the ministers of God though they were Gentils he setteth downe this conclusion Geue therefore to all sortes of men those thinges that are due vnto them tribute to whome tribute tole to whome ●●le feare to whome feare honor to whome honor belongeth Vnto our temporal prince and head of our earthly cōmon-wealth whereof we are citizēs we owe all temporal obedience in ciuil matters according to the law of God nature and nations and according to the particular ordinances of the countrie wherin we dwel and so we are to serue him with our bodies goodes life and whatsoeuer other earthly meanes or comoditie we haue besides in all iust causes And this with all honor fidelitie redines alacritie and promptnes of minde as to the minister of God ordayned as both the forenamed Apostles say for punishing of the wicked and comforting the good And this obedience was due also vnto heathen magistrates in Christes time for in this temporal go●ernment Christ altered nothing at all but left it as he found it And for that some Christians after Christes ascention partly by the comon opinion of the Iewes who held that the Messias should make them free from all temporal subiection and partly vpon those woordes of Christe himself in Saint Iohns Ghospel si ergo vos filias liberauerit verè liberi eritis if the sonne of God once deliuer you you shal be truely free which was meant of spirituall freedom yet for that some Christians imagined that they were now free from obedience also of temporal magistrates the foresayd two chief Apostles Saint Peter and Saint Paule took vpon them most earnestly to remoue this error in the places alleaged and to persuade all due temporal obedience also in all ciuil afaires to the ciuil magistrate of what life or religion soeuer he were I say in temporal and ciuil afaires for as for matters of religion and the soule no man of sence or iudgment will imagin that the said Apostles would bynd christians to obey those ciuil magistrates that were not yet christians in the Apostles dayes nor euer ment to be but rather persecutors And heerof also insueth that their must needes be some other distinct superioritie and gouernment for matters of the soule whereof I shewed the commandement before out of Saint Paule and it is that which we commonly call Ecclesiasticall or Spiritual gouernment concerning afaires of religion and conscience And this gouernment ouer soules Christe himself came properly downe from heauen to found and erect vpon earth and to make himself head thereof being a gouernment far different from the other whereof he would take no parte at all and so he fled when the people would haue made him a king and to Pilate he denyed that his kingdom was of this world and being called vpon to deuide the inheritance between two brethren which was an act aperteining to the tēporall magistrate he answered who hath apointed me a Iudge or a deuider ouer you But yet when he talked of the o●her superioritie that aperteineth to teaching instructing and gouerning of soules be acknowleged his authoritie You call me maister and Lord sayth he in one place to his disciples and you say wel for I am so And again in an other place your only maister is Christe c. This superioritie therfore and tribunal ouer soules for instructing directing chastising bynding and loosing of sinnes and the lyke Christ did peculierly erect and setle at his being here making himself the head and leauing his Apostles and their successours for his substitutes to guyd the same vnder him vnto the worldes end Neither did Christe at his departure commit this authoritie or any parte therof vnto Caesar or vnto any other temporal prince but to his Apostles geuing them that supreme dignitie in ioynt commission with his owne person when he saied who heareth you heareth me and who contemneth you contemneth me Nor did Saynt Paule when he talked of matters of the soule subiect Christians vnto Caesar or vnto temporal princes as he did in temporal affaires but vnto their prelates as before hath byn alleaged and addeth this reason for that they wach for vs and are to yeild account of our soules to almightie God as a matter of their peculiar charge And to the end it should appeare how distinct and different these two gouernments and iurisdictions are Christ prouided that this spiritual gouernment of his Churche should stand in the world for three hundred yeares together without any temporal gouernment at all in the hand of Christian Princes to wit vntil the tyme of Constantyne the greate and then and after when any temporal kinges and princes were conuerted and made Christians as
parasite pratleth but vpon ●ome other cause giuen rather from England as himself after page 57. of his libel confesseth in these woords The king of Spain and Popes malice saith he to the Queen is not for that she is daughter to king Henry the eight and sister to Queen Marie but because she hath banished the Pope that Antechriste of Rome c. ergo the Q. began with the Pope and the Pope not with her But secondly let it be considered in what maner this banishment of the Pope was contriued that in this time of peace between Rome and England after the Queens entrance what was donn at home by vs against the Pope to stir him to this act of hostilitie First not only the whole body of religion was changed that had indured aboue a thowsand years and this contrarie to expectation and promes but diuers peculier statutes were made also against the Bishop of Rome by ●ame with the most spiteful and opprobrius woords termes that any malice of man could deuise all the whole Catholique body of England enforced to sweare against him and his authoritie by name or els to incur most greeuous and capital damages the like detestable othe was offered and repeated again and again to all such and as often as they were to take any degree of preferment within the land All the clergie was deposed and depriued of liuings libertie only for adhering to the Popes religiō the Bishops other principal prelates of our land committed to prisons holds and restraints for the same cause and there continued vnto their dying day for that they refused to subscribe to so violent a statute Then such as would leaue the realme or fle were inhibited those that staied at home were inforced to participate not only of these other but also eating new deuised Sacrament b●ead against their consciences condemned also and anathemazed by the lutherās first founders of this new religiō The Pope euery where was cried out of reuiled made a matter of scorne infamy not only in all sermons pulpits and conuenticles but also in comedies pl●ies and interludes by euery base and contemptible companion In the schooles of vniuersities most ridiculous propositions were set vp as paradoxes to be defended that the Pope forsooth was Antechriste the man of sinne talked of by S. Paule and other like toyes And that which moued perhaps more then all the rest was that these things were not only practised alowed of in England and Ireland subiect to her Maiestie but were begun to be introduced also by ou● meanes that is by the turbulent attempts and practises of protestants her Maiestie perhaps knowing litle therof in all the realmes and regions round about vs and namely in France Flanders and Scotland where the warres tumults rebellions deuisions sects heresies and other outrages came to be so many and excessiue great as the lawful● and naturàll princes of those contries seeing themselues so far indomaged and highly endaungered therby were inforced first of all to complain vnto the Pope as chief pastor and common father of all to vse such spirituall redresse as he might for his party in respect o● his ecclesiasticall souereigntie whilest they prepared also to defend● themselues and their troobled countries by force of armes Not malignitie then of the Pope and his adherents agaynst he● Maiesties crown and diadem wherunto willingly they had concur●● and assisted moued this first breach and bickering as this malignan● barking-whelp would beat into mens eares but necessities of great●● violence inforced the same And if perhaps we in England after the change made in religion had taken that course which Protestants did in Germany to follow our new opinions without gawling of others none of these open hostilities had euer insued And let this stand fo● the second notandum wherby is ouerthrown all this slanderous ca●lumniation of the kinght The third note may be to consider with indifferency what this ac● of the Popes excomunication is in it self or how far it may in reason and iustice without malice and calumniation be streched against th● Catholique subiects of England In it self it was an act of iurisdiction between two superiours th● one Ecclesiastical the other temporal wherin the subiects sentenc● or consent was neuer asked nor admitted Secondly it was no new thing for that we see and read that th● like hath happened often and vpon many occasions between th● Bishops of Rome and diuers other great princes common-wealthes Emperours Kings and monarchs and sometymes also with kings of England and of late with the king of France as all the world knoweth And yet the subiect is neither afflicted nor accused for it nor ●nforced to change their old receaued beleef about the Popes autho●itie in such matters though in that particuler fact for reuerence of ●heir naturall Prince and dew respect in lyke manner to the other ●hey will not medle nor yet discuss the question whether the Pope ●ad iust reason or sufficient information whervpon to proceed but with dutifull loue and honour to the one and to the other they chuse ●ather to commend the matter to almightie God which is the only ●hing that resteth for a pious and dutiful subiect to perform in such ●ases when two superiours shall disagree vntill God by his goodnes ●hall determine the controuersy and bring all to some happie end as ●e hath donn of late in France where after the foresaied excomuni●ation by the see Apostolique the same king hath receyued exceeding great fauours and benefytes from the same sea and Bishop which almightie God graunt we may once see also in our countrie to the con●entment of all parties and therby all such hastie hoate-spurres as this ●s who still would kindle more fier and bring all to desperation may ●e reiected and put to silence And with this I might end the matter of her Maiesties perils were 〈◊〉 not that this playntiffe proceedeth on with a long rehersal of other ●ostile actions committed as he sayth by English Catholiques also ●gaynst her Maiestie As the rising of the two earles in the north ●orthumberland and VVestmerland the rebellion of diuers of the ●obilitie in Irland Doctor Sanders going thither Mayster Francis ●hrogmortons practises in England M. Charles Pagets going ●orth of the land the other two earles of Arundell Northumber●ands commitment and the like All which are ouer long to examine more in particuler and all put together do weigh so litle in the matter we haue in hand as by that which followeth shal appeare None of all these actions brake out to any hostilitie sauing only ●he two earles rysing and gathering their tenantes together in the ●orth where yet there followed neither battayle nor bloodshed and ●hey were no sooner almost together nor heard of at the courte ●ut they were seuered agayn and retyred into Scotland Flanders And this is all the actual rysing that hath byn among Catholiques within