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A30905 Truth triumphant through the spiritual warfare, Christian labours, and writings of that able and faithful servant of Jesus Christ, Robert Barclay, who deceased at his own house at Urie in the kingdom of Scotland, the 3 day of the 8 month 1690. Barclay, Robert, 1648-1690. 1692 (1692) Wing B740; ESTC R25857 1,185,716 995

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Worshipping of Angels and other such Acts of voluntary Humility A. Now the Spirit speaketh expresly that in the latter times some shall depart from the Faith 1 Tim. 4.1 2 3. giving heed to seducing Spirits and Doctrines of Devils speaking Lies in Hypocrisie having their Conscience seared as with an hot Iron forbidding to Marry and commanding to Abstain from Meats which God hath Created to be received with Thanksgiving of them which believe and know the Truth Let no Man beguile you of your Reward in voluntary Humility Col. 2.18 and Worshipping of Angels intruding into these things which he hath not seen vainly puft up by his Fleshly Mind CHAP. XIII Concerning Magistracy Question WHat is the Duty of a Magistrate Answer The God of Israel said the Rock of Israel spake to me he that Ruleth over Men must be Just 2 Sam. 23.3 Ruling in the Fear of God Q. What do the Scriptures speak of the Duty of such Subjection as are under Authority A. Let every Soul be Subject to the Higher Powers Rom. 13.1 2 3 4 5. for there is no Power but of God The Powers that be are ordained of God Whatsoever therefore resists the Power resists the Ordinance of God and they that resist shall receive to themselves Damnation For Rulers are not a Terror to good Works but to the Evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the Power Do that which is Good and thou shalt have Praise of the same for he is the Minister of God to thee for Good But if thou do that which is Evil be afraid for he beareth not the Sword in vain for he is the Minister of God a Revenger to execute Wrath upon him that doth Evil. Wherefore Ye must needs be subject not only for Wrath but also for Conscience sake Submit your selves to every Ordinance of Man for the Lord's sake whether it be to the King as Supream 1 Pet. 2.13 14 15. or unto Governours as unto them that are sent by him for the Punishment of Evil-Doers and for the Praise of them that do well for so is the Will of God that with Well-doing ye may put to silence the Ignorance of foolish Men. Tribute Q. Ought Tribute to be paid to them A. For for this Cause pay we Tribute also for they are God's Ministers Rom. 13 6 7. attending continually upon this very thing Render therefore to all their Dues Tribute to whom Tribute is due Custom to whom Custom Fear to whom Fear Honour to whom Honour Then saith he unto them Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's Matth. 22.21 and unto God the things that are God's Obedience Q. Are we obliged to obey Magistrates in such things as we are perswaded in our Minds are contrary to the Commands of Christ Acts 4.18 19 20. A. And they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the Name of Jesus but Peter and John answered and said unto them Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God judge ye for we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard And when they had brought them Acts 5 27 28 29. they set them before the Council and the High-Priest asked them saying Did not we straightly command you that ye should not Teach in this Name And behold ye have filled Jerusalem with your Doctrine and intended to bring this Man's Blood upon us Then Peter and the other Apostles answer'd and said We ought to obey God rather than Man Moderation Q. What ought to be Magistrates Behaviour in such Cases according to the Counsel of wise Gamaliel A. Then stood there up one in the Council a Pharisee named Gamaliel Acts 5.34 35 38 39. a Doctor of Law had in Reputation among the People and commanded to put the Apostles forth a little space and said unto them Ye Men of Israel take heed to your selves what ye intend to do as touching these men And now I say unto you Refrain from these men and let them alone for if this Counsel or this Work of Men it will come to nought but if it be of God ye cannot overthrow it le●t happily ye be found even to fight against God Tares Q. What Command giveth Christ to his People under the Gospel in Relation to this matter How doth he hold forth their Duty under the Parable of the Tares A. So the Servants of the Houshold came and said unto him Sir didst thou not sow Good Seed in thy Field Matth. 13.27 28 29. from whence then hath it Tares He said unto them An Enemy hath done this The Servants said unto him Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up But he said Nay lest while ye gather up the Tares ye root up also the Wheat with them Tares the Wicked Q. Doth he explain these Tares of the Wicked whom the Godly must not take upon them to cut off lest through mistake they hurt the Good but leave it to God to do it by his Angels A. * Matth. 13.38 39 40 41. The Field is the World the good Seed are the Children of the Kingdom but the Tares are the Children of the Wicked One the Enemy that sowed them is the Devil the Harvest is the End of the World and the Reapers are the Angels And therefore the Tares are gathered and burnt in the Fire So shall it be in the end of this World the Son of Man shall send forth his Angels and they shall gather out of his Kingdom all things that offend and them which do Iniquity CHAP. XIV Concerning the Resurrection Question WHat saith the Scripture of the Resurrection of the Dead Answer And have Hope towards God Acts 24.15 which they themselves also allow that there shall be a Resurrection of the Dead both of the Just and Unjust Q. To what different End shall the Good be raised from the Bad and how are they thereunto reserved A. Marvel not at this for the Hour is coming in the which all that are in the Graves shall hear his Voice and shall come forth John 5.28 29. they that have done good unto the Resurrection of Life and they that have done Evil unto the Resurrection of Condemnation But the Heavens and the Earth which are now 2 Pet. 3.7 by the same Word are kept in store reserved unto Fire against the Day of Judgment and Perdition of Ungodly Men. Q. What must be answered to such as ask how the Dead are raised and with what Body A. Thou Fool that which thou sowest is not quickened 1 Cor. 15.36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44. except it die and that which thou sowest thou sowest not that Body which shall be but bare Grain it may chance of Wheat or some other Grain But God giveth it a Body as it hath pleased him and to every Seed his own Body All
carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong Holds casting down Imaginations and every High Thing that exalteth itself against the Knowledge of God and bringing into Captivity every Thought to the Obedience of Christ y 2 Cor. 10 3.4 5. For Wars and Fightings come of the Lusts that war in the Members z Jam. 4.1 2. Therefore Christ commands not to resist Evil but whosoever will smite on the right Cheek to turn the other also a Mat. 5.39 Because Christians are Lambs among Wolves b Luke 10.3 Therefore are they hated of all Men for Christ's sake c Mat. 10.22 And all that will live Godly in Christ Jesus must suffer Persecution d 2 Tim. 3.12 Such are Blessed for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven e Mat. 5 10. For though they have lost their Lives yet shall they save them f Mat. 16.25 And because they have confessed Christ before Men he will also confess them before the Angels of God g Luke 12.8 9. We ought not then to fear them which kill the Body but are not able to kill the Soul but rather him which is able to destroy both Soul and Body in Hell h Mat. 10.28 ARTICLE XXII Concerning Magistracy LEt every Soul be subject to the Higher Powers for there is no Power but of God the Powers that be are ordained of God Whosoever therefore resists the Power resists the Ordinance of God and they that resist shall receive to themselves Damnation For Rulers are not a Terror to Good Works but to the Evil wilt thou then not be afraid of the Power do that which is good and thou shalt have Praise of the same for he is the Minister of God to thee for good But if thou do that which is Evil be afraid for he beareth not the Sword in vain for he is the Minister of God a Revenger to execute Wrath upon him that doth Evil. Wherefore we must needs be subject not only for Wrath but also for Conscience sake For for this Cause pay we also Tribute for they are God's Ministers attending continually upon this very thing Render therefore to all their Dues Tribute to whom Tribute is due Custom to whom Custom Fear to whom Fear Honour to whom Honour i Rom. 13.1 2 7. Therefore are we to submit ourselves to every Ordinance of Man for the Lord's sake whether it be to the King as Supream or unto Governours as unto them that are sent by him for the Punishment of Evil-Doers and for the Praise of them that do Well for so is the Will of God that with well-doing we may put to Silence the Ignorance of Foolish Men k 1 Pet. 2.13 14 15. Yet it is right in the Spirit of God to hearken unto him more than unto them l Acts 4.19 And though they straightly Command us not to teach in Christ's Name we ought to obey God rather than Men m Acts 5.28 29. ARTICLE XXIII Concerning the Resurrection THere shall be a Resurrection of the Dead both of the Just and Vnjust n Acts 24.15 They that have done Good unto the Resurrection of Life and they that have done Evil unto the Resurrection of Damnation o John 5.29 Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God neither doth Corruption inherit Incorruption p 1 Cor. 15.50 Nor is that Body sown that shall be but God gives it a Body as it has pleased him and to every Seed his own Body It is sown in Corruption it is raised in Incorruption It is sown in Dishonour it is raised in Glory It is sown in Weakness it is raised in Power It is sown a Natural Body it is raised a Spiritual Body q 1 Cor. 15.37 38 42 43 44. CHAP. XVII A short Expostulation with and APPEAL to all other Professors COme let us reason with you all ye Professors of Christianity of what sort or kind soever and bring forth your Catechisms and Confessions of FAITH to that which by most of your selves is accounted the Touch-Stone or Rule And suffer your selves no more to be blinded and to Err through your Ignorance of the Scriptures and of the Power of God but freely acknowledge and confess to that Glorious Gospel and Light which the Scriptures so clearly witness to and your Experience must needs answer as also to these other Doctrines The Noble Principle of Truth all are Invited unto which consequentially depend upon the behalf of that Noble and truly Catholick Principle wherein the Love of God is so mercifully exhibited to all Men and his Justice and Mercy do like Twins so Harmoniously Concord his Mercy in the oft tendering of his Love through the Strivings and Wrestlings of his Light during the day of every man's Visitation and his Justice both in the destroying and cutting away of the Wicked Nature and Spirit in those that suffer themselves to be Redeemed through his Judgments and in the utter Overthrow of such who rebelling against the Light and doing Despight to the Spirit of Grace hate to be Reformed Now not only this Fundamental Principle is clearly held forth in this Treatise but all these that depend upon it as the real and inward Justification of the Saints through the Power and Life of Jesus Revealed in them their full and perfect Redemption from the Body of Death and Sin as they grow up by the Workings and Prevalency of his Grace And yet lest Security should enter there is great need of Watchfulness in that they may even depart after they have really witnessed a good Condition and make Ship-wrack of the Faith and of a good Conscience with all the parts of the Doctrine of Christ as they lie linked together like a Golden Chain which doth very much evidence the Certainty and Vertue of Truth above all Heresies Error and Deceit however so cunningly gilded with the specious Pretences thereof For Truth is intire in all its parts and consonant to it self without the least Jar having a wonderful Coherence and notable Harmony The Harmony of Truth as of a well-tuned Instrument answering together like the Strings of a well-tuned Instrument whereas the Principles of all other Professors though in some things most of them come near and divers acknowledge that which is Truth yet in most things they stray from it so that their Principles greatly contradict and Jar one against another And though they may alledge Scriptures for some of their Principles yet they are put strangely to wrest it and to deny it for others My Appeal then to and Expostulation with all sorts of Professors is not to prove some one or two Points by the Scriptures for there be some general Notions of Truth which most if not all agree to but the whole Body of our Principles as they stand in relation to each other which none of them all is able to do For among the many Professors their Catechisms and Confessions of Faith I
Condemnation of the Devil Moreover he must have a good Report of them which are without lest he fall into Reproach and the Snare of the Devil For a Bishop must be blameless as the Steward of God Tit. 1.7 8 9. not self-willed not soon angry not given to Wine no Striker not given to filthy Lucre but a lover of Hospitality a lover of good Men sober just holy temperate holding fast the Faithful Word as he hath been taught that he may be able by sound Doctrine both to exhort and to convince the Gain-sayers Q. What is incumbent upon such to do A. Take heed therefore to your selves and to all the Flock Acts 20.28 over which the holy Ghost hath made you Overseers to feed the Church of God * 1 Pet. 5.1 2 3. The Elders which are among you I exhort who am also an Elder and a Witness of the Sufferings of Christ and also a Partaker of the Glory that shall be revealed Feed the Flock of God which is among you taking the Oversight thereof not by Constraint but willingly not for filthy Lucre but of a ready Mind neither as being Lords over God's Heritage but being Ensamples to the Flock Q. Though they be not to Lord it over the Flock yet is there not a Respect due to them in their Place 1 Tim. 5.17 A. Let the Elders that Rule well be counted worthy of double Honour especially they who Labour in the Word and Doctrine Q. Albeit then among true Christians every one that believeth is to have the Witness in himself being perswaded in himself by the Spirit yet is there not also a real Subjection to be to one another in the Lord 1 Cor. 14.32 A. The Spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets Obey them that have the Rule over you and submit your selves for they watch for your Souls Hebr. 13.17 as they that must give Account that they may do it with Joy and not with Grief for that is unprofitable for you 1 Thess. 5.12 13. And we beseech you Brethren to know them which labour among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you and to esteem them very highly in Love for their Works sake 1 Pet. 5 5. Likewise ye Younger submit your selves unto the Elder yea all of you be subject one to another and be clothed with Humility for God resisteth the Proud and giveth Grace unto the Humble Q. How ought true Teachers to minister in the Church A. As every man hath received the Gift even so minister the same one to another 2 Pet. 4.10 11. as good Stewards of the manifold Grace of God If any speak let him speak as the Oracles of God If any Man minister let him do it as of the ability which God giveth that God in all Things may be glorified through Jesus Christ. Q. I perceive then that every true Minister of the Church of Christ is to Minister of the Gift and Grace of God which he hath received But some are of the Judgment that natural Wisdom or Parts and Human Learning are the Qualification Human Learning which are of absolute Necessity for a Minister but Grace they judge not to be so absolutely necessary but that one may be Minister without it what saith the Scripture in this Case A. A Bishop must be sober just holy temperate Tit. 1.6 8. Q. Methinks it is impossible for a Man to be blameless just holy sober and temperate without the Grace of God So that if these Qualifications be absolutely necessary then surely that without which a Man cannot be so qualified must be necessary also But what saith the Scripture as to the Necessity of Natural Wisdom and Human Learning A. Where is the Wise where is the Scribe where is the Disputer of this World 1 Cor. 1.20 21 hath not God made foolish the Wisdom of this World For after that in the Wisdom of God the World by Wisdom knew not God it pleased God by the Foolishness of Preaching to save them that believe Q. It seems then the Preachings of the true Ministers are not gathered together by Wisdom and Learning It hath been supposed that a Man must be greatly skilled in Learning to make a good Sermon what is the Apostle's Judgment in the Case A. For Christ sent me not to Baptize but to preach the Gospel 1 Cor. 1.17 not with Wisdom of Words lest the Cross of Christ should be made of none Effect And I was with you in Weakness and in Fear 1 Cor. 2 3 4 5 and in much Trembling and my Speech and my Preaching was not with Enticing Words of Man's Wisdom but in Demonstration of the Spirit and of Power that your Faith should not stand in the Wisdom of Men but in the Power of God Q. I perceive the Apostle lays far more stress upon the Demonstration and Power of the Spirit in a Preacher than upon human Literature ought Ministers then to preach as the Spirit teacheth them A. Also we speak not in the Words which Man's Wisdom teaches 2 Cor. 2.13 but which the Holy Ghost teacheth And they were all fill'd with the Holy Ghost and began to speak Acts 2.4 as the Spirit gave them Vtterance Q. Is it Christ then that speaketh in and through his Ministers A. For it is not ye that speak but the Spirit of your Father Matth. 10.20 which speaketh in you For it is not ye that speak but the Holy Ghost Mark 13.11 For the Holy Ghost shall Teach you in the same Hour Luke 12.12 what ye ought to say Since ye seek a Proof of Christ speaking in me 2 Cor. 13.3 which to you-ward is not weak but is mighty in you Q. What is the Apostle's Mind of that human Learning which some cry up so much and think so needful in a Minister A. Beware Col. 2.8 lest any Man spoil you through Philosophy and vain Deceit after the Tradition of Men after the Rudiments of the World and not after Christ. O Timothy keep that which is committed to thy trust 1 Tim. 6.20 avoiding prophane and vain Babbling and Oppositions of Science falsly so caled Q. Though true Ministers speak not by the natural Wisdom of Men yet is their Testimony altogether void of Wisdom A. Howbeit we speak Wisdom among them that are perfect 1 Cor. 2.6 7. yet not the Wisdom of this World nor of the Prince of this World that came to nought but we speak the Wisdom of God in a Mystery even the hidden Wisdom which God ordained before the World to our Glory Q. What is the Reason that Man by his natural Wisdom is not capable to Minister in the Things of God A. For what Man knoweth the Things of a Man 1 Cor. 2.11 14 save the Spirit of a Man which is in him even so the Things of God knoweth no Man but the Spirit of God But the natural Man received
any but that those Vertues are not in many of the Persons expressed by the Titles they bear neither will they allow to speak so to such in whom these Vertues are unless they be so dignified by outward Princes So that such as are truly Vertuous must not be styled by their Vertues because not priviledged by the Princes of this World and such as have them not must be so called because they have obtained a Patent so to be and all this is done by those who pretend to be his Followers that commanded his Disciples Not to call any Man Master and told them such could not believe as received Honour one from another and sought not the Honour which cometh from God only This is so plain to such as will indeed be Christians that it needs no Consequence Your Holiness Your Grace c. Fourthly As to those Titles of Holiness Eminency and Excellency used among the Papists to the Pope and Cardinals c. and Grace Lordship and Worship used to the Clergy among the Protestants it is a most blasphemous Usurpation For if they use Holiness and Grace because these things ought to be in a Pope or in a Bishop how come they to usurp that peculiarly to themselves Ought not Holiness and Grace to be in every Christian And so every Christian should say Your Holiness and Your Grace one to another Next how can they in Reason claim any more Titles than were practised and received by the Apostles and Primitive Christians whose Successors they pretend they are and as whose Successors and no otherwise themselves I judge will confess any Honour they seek is due to them Now if they neither sought received nor admitted such Honour nor Titles how came these by them If they say They did let them prove it if they can We find no such thing in the Scripture The Christians speak to the Apostles without any such Denominations neither saying If it please Your Grace Hypocrites want Titles Your Holiness Your Lordship nor Your Worship they are neither called My Lord Peter nor My Lord Paul nor yet Master Peter nor Master Paul nor Doctor Peter nor Doctor Paul but singly Peter and Paul and that not only in the Scripture but for some hundreds of Years after So that this appears to be a manifest Fruit of the Apostasy For if these Titles arise either from the Office or Worth of the Persons it will not be denied but the Apostles deserved them better than any now that call for them But the Case is plain the Apostles had the Holiness the Excellency the Grace and because they were Holy Excellent and Gracious they neither used nor admitted of such Titles But these having neither Holiness Excellency nor Grace will needs be so called to satisfy their Ambitious and Ostentive Minds which is a manifest Token of their Hypocrisy Fifthly as to that Title of Majesty usually ascribed to Princes we do not find it given to any such in the Holy Scripture but that it is specially and peculiarly ascribed unto God as 1 Chron. 29.11 Job 37.22 Psal. 21.5.29.4.43.3.63.1.96.6 Isa. 2.10.24.14.26.10 Heb. 1.3 2 Pet. 1.16 and many more Places Hence saith Jude ver 25. To the only wise God our Saviour be Glory and Majesty c. not to Men We find in Scripture the proud King Nebuchadnezar assuming this Title to himself Dan. 4.30 who at that Time received a sufficient Reproof by a sudden Judgment which came upon him Therefore in all the Compellations used to Princes in the Old Testament it is not to be found nor yet in the New Paul was very civil to Agrippa yet he gives him no such Title Neither was this Title used among Christians in the Primitive Times Hence the Ecclesiastical History of the Reformation of France relating the Speech of the Lord Rochefort at the Assembly of the Estate of France held under Charles the Ninth in the Year 1560 saith That this Harangue was well remarked in that he used not the Word Majesty invented by Flatterers of late Years And yet this Author minded not how his Master Calvin used this flattering Title to Francis the First King of France Eccles. hist. lib. 4. p. 445. Your Majesty not used How taken notice of in 1560. and not only so but calls him Most-Christian King in the Epistle to his Institutions though by his daily persecuting of the Reformers it was apparent he was far from being such even in Calvin's own Esteem Surely the complying with such vain Titles imposed and introduced by Antichrist greatly tended to stain the Reformation and to render it defective in many things Lastly All these Titles and Styles of Honour are to be rejected by Christians because they are to seek the Honour that comes from above and not the Honour that is from below But these Honours are not that Honour that comes from above but are from below The Proud Mind loves Titles For we know well enough what Industry and what Pains Men are at to get these Things and what part it is that seeks after them to wit the Proud Insolent Haughty Aspiring Mind For judge Is it the Meek and Innocent Spirit of Christ that covets that Honour Is it that Spirit that must be of no Reputation in this World that has its Conversation in Heaven Phil. 3.20 that comes to have Fellowship with the Sons of God Is it that Spirit I say that loves that Honour that seeks after that Honour that pleads for the upholding of that Honour that frets and rages and fumes when it is denied that Honour Or is it not rather the Lordly insulting Spirit of Lucifer Lucifer's Spirit the Prince of this World he that of old affected and sought after this Honour and loved not to abide in the Submissive Low Place And so all his Children are possessed with the same ambitious proud Mind seeking and coveting Titles of Honour which indeed belong not to them For let us examine Who are they 1 Sam. 2.30 that are Honourable indeed Is it not the Righteous Man Is it not the Holy Man Is it not the humble-hearted Man the meek spirited Man And are not such those that ought to be honoured among Christians Now of these may there not be Poor Men Labourers silly Fishermen And if so how comes it that the Titles of Honour are not bestowed upon such But who are they that generally receive and look for this Honour Are they not the Rich ones such as have abundance of the Earth as be like the Rich Glutton such as are proud and ambitious such as are Oppressors of the Poor such as swell with Lust and Vanity and all superfluity of Naughtiness Who are the very Abomination and Plague of the Nations are not these they that are accounted the Honourable that require and receive the Titles of Honour proud Hamans Now whether is this the Honour that comes from God or the Honour from below Doth God honour such as daily dishonour him
is a speaking and actual part of God's Worship Now there is not a word in the Text of these Exceptions more than the other and let him prove them if he can from the Scripture without making way for Womens-Preaching He confesseth pag. 400. That Women may be Instrumental in Conversion privately but not publickly and for his saying He will suspect the Conversion that way wrought rather to be a Delusion he but telleth his own Conjecture that so he may Conclude this Chapter according to his Custom with Railing ¶ 7. Pag. 401. He begins his 21 Chapter of Ministers Maintenance with a manifest Perversion Insinuating As if I were Joining with such who are against Ministers Maintenance which is utterly false as by what I say upon that subject doth evidently appear But indeed the Man contendeth here very warmly and with might and main The Maintenance allow'd to Ministers in Scripture and tooth and nail as they say albeit the thing he pleads for as to the substantial part of it be not denied but it will not satisfy him to grant as I do that the Ministers should receive Temporal things from them to whom they minister Spiritual or that their Necessities should be supplied No he will have it to be an Honorary as he calls it and that a large one too For so pag. 405. he interprets 1 Tim. 5.17 18 as if Double Honour could not be given without large giving of Money The Honour due to them is not a Money-Price It seems poor Folks with him cannot give Double Honour nor fulfill this Command of the Apostle it is only the Rich Folks Honour who can give largely that he regards yea he reckons this giving liberally to Ministers a Sowing to the Spirit for so he interpreteth Gal. 6.8 By all which it is manifest that to give liberally to Ministers goeth with him for a great Article of Faith But the Question only lieth betwixt us concerning a Limited and Forced Maintenance for a Sumptuous he cannot for shame but seem to disclaim and a Necessary yea what in any true sense can be so called I confess Therefore as what he saith of our denying it is false so what he urgeth to prove it as to us is superfluous As for a Constrained or Forced Maintenance They are not by Constraint to force their Maintenance which neither Magistrate nor People can make Lawful I desire him next time to prove it from Scripture since he has not yet done it nor indeed can he by any thing there written since what is there said is only by way of such Exhortation as Liberality and Charity is injoyned which albeit he saith confidently he has Convicted of Falshood but he hath said it and that is all For there were then no Christian Magistrates to Limit or Constrain such as would not Give The Conclusions and Determinations of the Magistrate and People make it not lawful in it self as all that hath been given either by Heathen-or Popish Magistrates or People out of Superstition may be lawful for Ministers to receive And indeed many of them begin to call that the Churches Patrimony and reckon it Sacriledge for others than Church-men as they call them to meddle with it He knows not how to turn-by Paul's Exhortation to the Elders of Ephesus Act. 20.33 and therefore at last after some ado he agrees to it but to make it have the less weight he tells How Paul took from other Churches which is not denied But it is manifest Paul preferred the Not-taking but Working with their hands to supply their Necessities as that which was rather to be done else to what purpose desires he them to Remember the words of the Lord Jesus That it is more blessed to give than to receive But it seems J. B. and his Brethren think it the Most blessed thing to be getting large Augmentations My speaking of their Complaining of the hardness of Christians indefinitly doth not hinder Exceptions and therefore his Carping at it p. 409. is frivolous And albeit Paul did not plead for a Carnal Ministry in reasoning for Maintenance as he saith p. 410. yet it very well follows that such are but a Carnal Ministry that will not preach without they get Money yea himself confesseth in the former page That True Ministers must speak whether they get Aliment or not and Commendeth some for so doing But he hath given in this pag. 410. a notable Example of his Sottishness and Malice both together For in answering what I say That a Carnal Ministry wanteth the Life and Power and therefore needs a fixed Maintenance but a Spiritual Ministry can confide in God who will provide for them To this he tells And are not the Priests now a days Richly provided for whilst the Servants of God have been put to great Straits and Sufferings and by them in N. England to hanging shall we therefore say these Persecuting Priests c. are the Called of God sent forth in his Authority and Power J. B. That the Priests in the Days of Jezabel were richly provided for and the Servants of God put to great Straits Shall we therefore saith he say that these Priests of Baal were the only Called of God sent forth in his Power and Authority and that the Servants of the Lord were but a Carnal Ministry This were to argue Carnally with Belly-Arguments as our Quakers do The sober Reader may judge of the sottishness and malitious Perversness of this Answer Sottish it is because no ways to the purpose for I never made the Being richly provided a token of a Spiritual Ministry as the whole I say of this Matter evinceth but on the contrary with Christ and the Apostle I think they are most blessed who receive least And will he say that my saying that Spiritual Ministers can depend upon God who will provide for them so as not to need a fixed Maintenance Infers any such thing it is malitious because he would insinuate to the Reader that this gross Assertion were mine affirming we Argue with Belly-Arguments which is a Base but Bare Calumny How much more his Arguments savour of that the Reader may judge and that his extream Keenness in this Matter shews how near of Kin he is to those whose God is their Belly who Preach for Hire and Divine for Money and look for their Gain from their Quarter What he saith of the Quakers Riches is both False and Frivolous for they are none of the Richest People and their Preachers especially such as receive Maintenance are usually the poorest among them For such as have of their own and are called to the Ministry do not use to Receive but following the Apostle Labour to make the Gospel without Charge He turns by what I say in the Conclusion of my Explication of my Tenth These where I shew by many Scriptures the Distinction betwixt a True and False Ministry shewing how we plead for the True and deny the False This he calls
in stead of Answers these may be considered when he proves them That Paul swore any way Abraham's and Practice will not warrant our Imitation of it we deny and neither Abraham's nor Jacob's practice nor yet that of Angels will Warrant us to Imitate them when Christ has commanded the Contrary And albeit he acknowledge The Testimony of Pythagoras Socrates and Plato doth shame many Christians for their Swearing yet he cannot omit here his ordinary Reflection at our Religion as Paganish He Confesseth That many of the Fathers were against Swearing and indeed none any ways versed in Antiquity can deny this to have been the General Faith of the Primitive Church SECT XVII Wherein his Thirty First Chapter of Civil Honour and Thirty Second called A View of the Conclusion is Considered ¶ 1. AS he Enters upon this Chapter of Civil Honour he Accuseth me as being Effronted and Shameless for saying All our Adversaries plead for the Lawfulness of Superfluity of Apparel and Plays And to make this appear the more probable he would seem to be much against these things and wisheth there were less of them But all will not do nor Hide him in this Matter No Laces and Ribbonds deny'd by J. B. to his bountiful Ladies For he will not deny the Lawfulness of Laces and Ribbonds the Man will not Offend the good Ladies to whose Bountifulness they are so much obliged so as simply to deny their Superfluities And how can he since it is become a Practice of some Eminent Presbyterian Ministers which they have Learned from their Friends the Popish Priests and Jesuitish Emissaries not only to go up and down with their Sword and Pistols to evidence they are Men of Blood Presbyterian Ministers go with their Sword and Pistols Lac'd Bonds and Cravats and Brethren in Politicks but also in their Laced Bands and Cravats Perriwigs and Gilded Belts to make them look like Monsieurs But if he think that I wrong any of our Adversaries in this let him tell me which of them dogmatically hold it as a General Principle That Superfluity of Cloaths and the use of Plays in general is unlawful whatever some Particulars may do whereof I made an Exception As for any their laying aside these Vanities out of Pride I do not Justify it for him to Insinuate that as to us is but his bare malicious Assertion After that pag. 534. he has told his Reader he comes to Treat of that which is peculiar to the Quakers he gives him a large List of Strange Hereticks as among others Heracleonites Carpocratians Gnosimachians enough to fright Ignorant folk telling That what the Devil could not effectuate by all these he thinketh now to accomplish by the miserable Quakers It seems the Man must be one of the Devil's Counsellours that he is so well acquainted with his Purposes But I shall not Covet this his Preforment nor seek to Imitate the Language he has learned of that Court which he bestows in the following page to Rage at us as Rude and Vncivil and such as deny to give the least Signification of Civil Honour to Equals or Superiours which is false And then by a strange Figure he will seem no less known in God's Counsel than he before would appear in the Devil 's and therefore Magisterially concludes That God has given us up to the Vnmanning of our selves who have renounced all Christianity and every thing that looketh like serious Religion It seems Bowing and Taking of the Hat and Complemental Titles is the Man's Christianity and serious Religion which the Quakers have Renounced I will next Examin how he proves it ¶ 2. Pag. 536. He tells That Honour is to be rendred to whom Honour is due but this we never denied The Question is Whether Honour may not be Rendred without Bowing or Taking off the Hat The Scriptures he brings here to prove this are so far from doing it that most of them are egregiously Impertinent as will appear For as to Abraham's and Lot's Bowing there mentioned I shew in my Apology Abraham's bowing and Lot's is no Rule how their Practice in that was not to be a Rule to us But he brings Act. 14.15 where Paul and Barnabas are said in our English Translation to say Sirs and Acts 27. v. 10. where Paul saith Paul's saying Sirs in Greek it is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. e. Men. Sirs to the Mariners to prove They gave a Title of Honour as if Sirs did infer the plural Number of what usually Sir to one Imports with us But if he had looked the Greek he would have found in both Places 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies Men. I would willingly know if the Man will be so Void of Ingenuity as not to acknowledge his Folly here For as for the Jaylour's Practice he will have much ado to prove it a Rule to Christians Neither is he less Impertinent when he brings the Instance of Mary saluting Elizabeth Alledged Salutations from Scripture they were not a Taking off the Hat and bowing to each other Paul the Church of Corinth Christ desiring his Disciples to salute the House and Paul in his Epistles desiring such as he wrote to to Salute others in his Name For who will not Condemn him of folly in Imagining that the Apostle by these Christian Salutations desired them to Take off their Hats and Bow to one another in his Name or that this was the Way Christ willed his Disciples to salute the Houses they came to He must remember to prove this next time and know we deny neither Salutations nor Civility But have not yet heard him prove That they consist in such P●●●tices He confesseth pag. 537. That several of the Titles used may be granted not to be lawful to Christians But thinketh That makes nothing for our Blant and Rustick as he terms it Thou and Thee To Thee and Thou a single Person says J. B. is Blunt and Rude with which we speak to Magistrates and great Persons no otherwise than we would do to our Foot boys But since he confesseth they use this Thou and Thee which he thinks so Blunt and Rude when speaking to God I desire he may Acquaint me next time Why they speak to God no other ways than they would do to their Foot boys to whom I hope he will say they own great Respect than to any Magistrates or great Personages whatsoever And this shews it was no Rudeness in me to Address my self thus in my Epistle to the King Besides that what he quarrels being written in Latine shews his folly In Latine the Singular used to Kings since it is Vsual for themselves writing in that Language to use the Singular Number even to Kings And forasmuch as he thinks this so Absurd that in a silly Scoff he saith Vnder favour of my Thou ship And pag. 540. he accounts this in us Singularity Contempt Pride yea and to proceed from a more stinking Root I will