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honour_n	doctrine_n	double_a	elder_n	1,742	5	9.4785	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A95679	Gainsayer convinced: or, An answer to a certain scandalous paper, subscribed and sent by certain seduced and seditious people to a minister in the countrey: in which the calling of the ministry of the Church of England, the nature of a visible church, the power of the magistrate under the gospel, the right of tithes, with many other points now in controversie, are briefly, fully and plainly cleared, to the satisfaction of those that are wavering; also much of the spirit and many of the errours of the Anabaptists of these daies (who call themselves saints) discovered and confuted. / By T.T. Preacher of the word at Kemble in Wiltshire.	Thache, Thomas, b. 1616 or 17.	1649 (1649)	Wing T827; Thomason E568_1; ESTC R206240	79,821	83

should we have time to tumble over the Fathers But Paul wanted for back and belly yet was not wanting in preaching the Gospel Ans I answer though we cannot yet some in these late dayes have learn'd so to fish and to catch men that they can live by it when the world knows they could never live by continuing in that honest calling unto which God had called them they learn to forget that of Paul 1 Cor. 7. 20. where he commands Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called Again for our tumbling over the Fathers you that speak so scornfully of those worthy men whose pions labours and memories are precious with all godly and understanding men you I say might very well imploy your time in going to schoo to them a while if you were able to understand them by whom you might be convinced of the wickednesse of those wayes you are now seduced to walk in and that ye might be taught how to understand the Word which now you so shamefully abuse and that you might be directed by them to walk in that truth which you are now so ignorant of Paper The next nayl you drive at in a great deal of your stuffe together is to tell us how we ought to preach the Gospel and to labour with our own hands as Peter by fishing and Paul by Tent-making Ans I answer I doubt not but that Paul whom you have instanced in for preaching the Gospel and working with his own hands will discover to you your malice and your folly and your syllinesse in objecting this to us Paul himself will teach you if you do not look upon this part of his doctrine as Apocrypha first that liberall maintenance is due to us from the people for our preaching the Gospel and 2ly that this is due not out of mercy as if our maintenance ought to depend on the voluntary contributions of our Parishioners but out of justice for our works sake as we labour in the Word and doctrine And farther that they who do labour in the Word and doctrine have power to abstain from labouring with their own hands it is not required of them that they should live by fishing or Tent-making but 't is allowed them that they should live by the Gospel For the proof of these things see first Gal. 6. 6. Let him that is taught in the Word communicate to him that teacheth in all his goods so the word is in the originall 1 Tim. 5. 17 18. The Elders that labour in the Word and doctrine are worthy of double honour For the Scripture saith Thoushalt not muzzle the mouth of the ex that treadeth out the corn for the labourer is worthy of his reward But if you will look into 1 Cor. 9. 3. and so forward in the Chapter ye shall there see Paul stating and debating the question at large Who goes to warfare at any time at his own charges who plants a vineyard and eats not of the fruit thereof or who feeds a flock and eats not of the milk of the flock Say I these things as a man that is Am I partiall do I speak meerly out of affection and humane favour to my own cause or calling or saith not the Law the same also For it is written in the Law of Moses Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn doth God take care for oxen Or saith he it altogether for our sakes that is Doth God provide Laws for the rewarding and incouraging the labour of bruit beasts and doth he leave the maintenance and honour of his own immediate officers to the arbitrary and pinching allowances of covetous and cruell men For our sakes no doubt i● this written that he that plougheth should plough in hope and he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope That is that the incouragement of the Ministers in their service might depend upon such a hope as is grounded upon Gods Law and provision And that they might not be left to the will and allowances of those men against whose sins they were sent And this the Apostle proves farther by an argument drawn from a most unanswerable equitie If we have sown unto you spirituall things is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnall things Again Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the Temple and they which wait at the Altar are partakers of the Altar to shew that they receive their maintenance from the hand of God himself whose onely the things of the Altar are Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel He saith not that God permitteth or alloweth but God ordaineth and commandeth it And pray tell me what is it to live first they must live as men t●ey must have enough for necessitie 2ly they must live as beleevers He that provideth not for his own is worse then an Infidel 1 Tim. 5. 8. They must therefore have of the Gospel sufficient to lay up for those whom the l●w of common humanity much more of faith commands them to provide for 3ly they must live as Ministers they must have wherewith to maintain the duties of their calling a good example of pietie charitie and hospitalitie 1 Tim 3. 2. 4 Ch 12. v. From this you may observe that those who labour in the Word and Doctrine and are Embassadors for Christ and stand in his stead to reveal his mysteries and dispence the treasures of his blood in the Church ought to have by way of homage to Christ and by way of recompence and retribution to themselves a liberall maintenance and fitting the honour and dignity of that person whom they represent and of that service wherein they minister The Apostle saith they are worthy of double honour honour of reverence and honour of maintenance Again farther yet to shew you that this maintenance ought not to depend upon the voluntary contribution of the people as an act of Mercie and not of Justice The same Paul tels the same Corinthians in the same Chapter that he and Barnabas did not work with their hands because they had not power to demand and receive maintenance from them for their preaching the Gospel to them Am I not an Apostle saith he what then Have we not power to eat and to drink Have we not power to leade about a wise a sister as well as the other Apostles and as the brethren of the Lord and Cephas Or I onely and Barnabas Have not we power to forbear working The Apostle plainly intimates in these 4 5 and 6 verses that all the other Apostles did receive maintenance from the people for themselves and their wives and that they had power so to do as they were Apostles And pray tell me whom do you finde of the Apostles besides Paul and Barnabas who after they did preach the Gospel did ever work with their hands