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A73049	Englands pvrginge fire Conteyninge two petitions, the one to the Kinges most excellent Majesty, the other to the High Courte of Parliament held at this tyme in England. Shewinge in diverse perticulers, how the Church in England might be ordered, yet more conformably to the Will of God reveiled in his worde then at this day it is. Herewithall is declared, the evell and lamentable effects of our vnable and negligent ministers: and the happy fruict of our learned and painefull pastors. A worke most needefull for theise tymes, as servinge to turne away the wrath and iudgements of God from this lande, through the removinge, (accordinge to the advertisements herein given) such disorders and evells, as for which the wrath of God may be, and is, kindled against this Land, and the church therein.	Proctor, Thomas, fl. 1621.	1621 (1621)	STC 20408.5; ESTC S124597	53,590	98

Israell and Iudah concerninge this matter of orderinge the Church and secondly takinge occasion therefrom to shevv vvherein or in vvhat needefull perticulers I in all humility crave your Royal Povverfull Assistance I. CHAP. OF David we reade 1. Chron 24 3 That he distributed Zadock of the sonnes of Eleazar and Ahimilech of the sonnes of Ithamar accordinge to their Offices in their Ministration Againe Of Hezekiah we reade 2. Chron 31 2 That he appointed the courses of the Preists and Levits by their turnes euery man accordinge to his office both Preists and Leuits for the burnts Offerings and peace Offerings to Minister and to give thancks to praise in the gates of the tents of the Lord. Againe we reade of the same Kinge 2. Chron 24 25 That he appointed also the Levits in the house of the Lord with Cymbals with Viols and with Harps accordinge to the commandement of David and Gad the Kinges Secr and Nathan the Prophet for the commandement noteth this Scripture was by the Hande of the Lord and by the hande of his Prophets Hence vve have evidence that the Kinges Office streatcheth to order the Ecclesiastical Ministers Ministrations accordinge to the Ordinance or Commandement of God therefore Kinges are Gods Ministers to see that such Ecclesiasticall Officers Offices as God ordeyned in the Church be founde in the Church of God vvithin their seuerall Dominions But hovv cann Kinges vnder the Christianity doe this if they have not povver over those in vvhom is the povver of Ordeyninge Ecclesiastical Ministers constreyninge them if neede be to ordeine such Ministers as neede For Ministers must first be before they can be distributed to the seuerall Offices neither can our Kinges distribute Ministers to the seuerall Offices if they have not power over those by whō ecclesiastical Ordination is conveyed Vnder the Lawe Ministers vvere propagated by Generatiö vnder the Ghospel they are propagated by Ordination therefore vvhere Ministers vvant to be distributed to due Offices the Kinge is Gods Minister to constreine if neede be the Minister vvho hath povver of Ordination to ordeine Ministers for needefull offices Such ecclesiasticall Ministers therefore as God by his vvoorde preserved in Scripture giues us light vvarrant for that they ought to be in the Church vve may petition your Majestie that they be ordeined and distributed to their appointed Offices if our Cleargy in vvhom is the povver of Ordination be herein negligent True it is that this Church hath bene very happy in its preservinge in the Reformation Arch-Bishops Bishops Preists and Deacons and vve of theise tymes are herein likevvise happy that such are continued in this Church vvith your Majesties gratious allovvance therefore I am not in this Chapter to petition for the ordeyninge of such Ministers That vvhich I petition your Majestie for in this Chapter is 1. That such ecclesiasticall Officers as are wantinge in our Church may be ordeyned in this Church 2. That Pa●ishes Bishopdomes and Arch Bishopdomes may be conveniently bounded 3. That you continue to free this Church from all forreine and unlaw full ecclesiasticall usurpations Powers THose ecclesiasticall Officers which I accoumpt to wante unto our Church are Lay Elders or Governours in every Parrish Church who with though under the Cleargy in that Church should Governe the Church in that Parrish But because theise are not onely not as yet admitted in this Church but also are by our Cleargy comtemptuously written of and spoaken against therefore I humbly pray that I may first shew by the vvord of God in Scripture that God Orderned such in the Church and secondly that I may answere some questions which may be moved concerning such The Apostle S. Paule 1. Cor. 12 28 saith thus And God hath ordeined some in the Church as first Apostles secondly Prophets thirdly Teachers then them that doe Miracles after that the guifts of healinge Helpers Governours diversitie of tongues From vvhich Scripture appeares that by Gods Ordinance there vvere in those time Governours in the Church which both were inferior to Teachers and also were not Teachers That they were to be inferior to Teachers appeares in that they are ranked in order farr under Teachers for as Teachers here rancked under Apostles in Order were doubtless inferior to Apostles so theise Governours thus rancked under Teachers in Order were inferior to Teachers And that they were not Teachers may appeare in that verse 29 the Apostle saith Are all Apostles are all Prophets are all Teachers for this manner interrogation of the Apostles proves that as all Teachers were not Apostles so those named after Teachers were not Teachers And indeede why saith the Apostle are all Teachers if it miply not that those which follow Teachers were not to be Teachers I conclude therefore from this Scripture that it was Gods owne Ordinance that there should be in the Church a sorte of Governours besides Teachers and which might not be Teachers To this wee may add yet a further evidence for this which we have by another portion of Scripture as 1. Tim. 5 17 where we thus reade The Elders that Rule well are worthie of double Honour specially they that labour in the vvorde and Doctrine Where the Apostle not proceedinge from Teachinge to labouringe in Teachinge but from Rulinge to labouringe in the vvorde this argues undeniably that some for Rulinge vvell onely were worthy of double Honor For when the Apostle saith The Elders that Rule well are vvorthie of double Honour who cann deny double honor to theise if they onely Ruled vvell and Taught not at all Therefore I cannot but conclude that in those times there vvere Governours in the Church who for Rulinge well onely though they laboured not in the vvorde were worthy of double Honor. And indeede if here we should take the construction which some make of this speach wher they say that here the Apostle meanes that all theise Elders are Teachers and that he specially commends some of them for labouringe or taking more paines in the vvorde then others tooke then it would followe first that not for Ruling well onely some were to have double Honor which thing is directly against this Scripture secondly that some Teachers were worthy of double honor for Rulinge well onely though they Taught not at all but this were an error not to be conceaved in the Apostle seing not to Teach but onely Rule is in a Teacher or Preacher of the Ghospell such a Neglect of a very speciall Duty as that such Teacher is worthy rather of Reproofe and Punishment then of double Honor Moreover if the Apostle would have us understande that some Teachers are worthy of double Honor for Rulinge well but specially such as labour more painefully in Teachinge then it had benefit he should have said Those Elders that teach and Rule well are worthy of double Honor specially they that labour in the vvord more then others for verily it is an unfit skippinge from Rulinge to a degree

of Comparison in Teachinge Lastly seing Preachinge is a labour the Apostle might well say specially they that labour and yet without making use of any comparison betweene them and other Teachers neither indeede cann it be said that any one that Teacheth at all laboureth not in the worde and Doctryne Theise things considered we have good warrant from this Scripture to collect and affirme That in asmuch as none may deny but that by this speach some were to have double Honour though they Ruled well onely And in asmuch as no Teacher but deservs reproofe if he Rule well onely and Teach not Therefore here is an evidence That the Christian Church was to have in it Elders who were not to be Teachers but Rulers onely This evidence from sacred Scripture for such Governours considered how cann any safely oppose the worke of one of the speciall Angells of the Reformation even Calvin in his restoringe such to the Church of God Doubtless a speciall Act of a speciall Angell of the Reformation is no smale bond unto the rest of the Churches Reformed specially when it hath this Light from Scripture of the correspondence thereof to the Ordinance of God in the first and Apostolically planted Churches Thus having proved that Governours who were not Teachers were yet ordeined by God to be in the Church I now pray that I may proceede to answer certaine questions which may by some be moved cōcerni●● such Governours Some may say If theise were then in the Church yet is there any necessity that such should be now also in our Church I answere Though all Officers and Offices which we fynde by Scripture to have bene in the Church be not necessarily to be now also in our tymes in the Church for vve read of Apostles Prophets to foretell things also of vvorkers of Miracles Speakers of Tongues Interpreters of Tongues c all which being by extraordinary Guifts of the Spirit the Guift failinge the Office and Officer faileth also yet such Offices as might be executed vvithout such extradinary Gifts vvere to be continued in the Church And indeede vvhy have vve Arch-Bishops Bishops Preists and Deacons if not because such were ordeyned in the first plantation of the Church and might be continued by Ordination vvithout any Neede of any extraordinary Guifts of the Spirit As therefore vve are necessarily to follow the example of Gods Ordinance in the beginning for theise so the same example is a bond for the Churches havinge in it also such Governours as now I vvrite of To conclude as in the Reformation we retayne such Cleargy and Offices as which have some evidence in holy Scripture to be planted by Gods Ordinance in the Church in the first tymes so this evidence in Scripture for Governours who are not to be Teachers ought to be a bond to the Church to restore this Ordinance of God to the Church in the Reformation made For seinge vve followe not Tradition vvithout some evidence in Scripture for other Offices of our Cleargy vve ought not to followe the corruption and neglect of Tradition against the Scriptures light yeilded us for such Governours as now I vvrite Let us not therefore kick against Gods Ordinance Let us not despise it as a needeless thinge Let us not bringe downe visitations upon us for such neglect Let us not say all is already vvell Reformed vvhen yet such Governours are not in our Church but rather let us meekely beare the yoake of this Ordinance of God also that so our people and Congregations may hereby be the more Christianly Governed Cann vve thinke that the Neglect of such an Ordinance of God vvill not breede a defect in the vvell Governinge of the Church Doubtless as all the Ordinances of God rended to the furtherance of the Ghospells out spreadinge and well Governinge them converted by the Ghospell so where so speaciall an Ordinance is omitted as is this of plantinge Governours vvho are not Teachers there both the Ghospell vvill the less prevaile and the people also vvill be the more negligent to bringe fourth the fruicts thereof in their life and conversation Doe but looke upon the difference of people and effect of the Ghospell vvhere such Governours are and vvhere they are not restored and by the evidence vvhich experience yeilds be moved to acknowledge the Benefit of restoringe this Ordinance of the Lords Againe some may say How have theise failed all this tyme To this also I answere It is indeede uncertaine hovv but yet seinge vve fynde by the vvorde of God that by Gods Ordinance such vvere planted in the Church vve have good cause to Beleeve that by some corruption of Tradition they failed For my parte I conceave That soone after the Apostles tymes the Church converted all Church Officers into Cleargy and by makinge all Cleargy the use of Lay Governours falled Moreover the convertinge them into Cleargy might occasion that they were not founde in after tyme in every Church because of the insupportable burthen of every Church or Congregations maintayninge of its Charge many Persons Againe some may say Are they then to be Lay Men I answere yes for if God exempt not any as for his Cleargy from labouringe for their owne Meanes but such as Preach the Ghospell none who are not Preachers of the Ghospell are may be accoumpted Cleargy But these as before I have proved were not to be Teachers or Preachers of the Ghospell therefore they were not to be of the Cleargy but of the Laiety And that none but those who Preach the Ghospell exempted as Gods Cleargy from labour may appeare by that which the Apostle 1. Cor. 9 14 saith in theise wordes So also hath the Lord Ordeined that they which Preach the Ghospell should live of the Ghospell And verse 6 he saith Or I onely and Barnabas have not we power not to worke who feedeth a flock and eateth not of the milk of the flock Where we see that it is the Ministration of the Ghospell that conferrs upon any this Priviledge that he is not to worke for his livinge but is to be maintayned of the Charge of Gods People Now Cleargy is as much as Gods Lot set apart to be maintayned of the Charge of Gods people for the Service they do to God for others therefore none but such may be accoumpted Gods Cleargy Moreover if the Apostle argue for this Priviledge from any ones Preaching the Ghospell how shall we vvarrantably ease our selvs of that rabble of Popish Cleargy which by corruption of Tradition Popery would thrust upon us if we understande not the Apostle here that onely they who feede the flock by Preaching are to be accoumpted for Cleargy If it be now obiected that Deacons are Cleargy and yet Deacons Preach not untill they be licensed then I answer That Deacons may be restreyned not for that they may not Preach by right but for that they should first be tried and proved least being yonge Students they preach evell Doctryne through