Selected quad for the lemma: honour_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
honour_n	divine_a	image_n	worship_v	3,075	5	9.4049	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A20602	The second manifesto of Marcus Antonius de Dominis, Archbishop of Spalatio [sic] wherein for his better satisfaction, and the satisfaction of others, he publikely repenteth, and recanteth his former errors, and setteth downe the cause of his leauing England, and all Protestant countries, to returne vnto the Catholicke Romane Church: written by himselfe in Latine, and translated into English by M. G.K.	De Dominis, Marco Antonio, 1560-1624.; G. K., fl. 1623.	1616 (1616)	STC 7001; ESTC S109786	30,635	70

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55._o et_fw-la contra_fw-la faustum_n lib._n 20._o ca._n 21._o c●rit●_n alex._n lib._n 6._o contra_fw-la julian._n theodoret_n in_o hist_o sanctorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la ca._n 24._o who_o word_n i_o cice_v not_o at_o large_a because_o this_o little_a book_n do_v not_o bear_v it_o from_o whence_o therefore_o have_v these_o blind_a master_n receive_v new_a eye_n see_v that_o long_a before_o they_o be_v the_o holy_a catholic_a church_n be_v perfect_o adorn_v with_o most_o bright_a and_o glorious_a light_n 13_o unto_o the_o honour_n of_o saint_n belong_v the_o feast_n which_o be_v celebrate_v in_o memory_n of_o they_o praise_v god_n and_o give_v he_o thanks_n that_o he_o have_v prefert_v mortal_a man_n to_o that_o high_a degree_n of_o sanctity_n neither_o be_v it_o a_o new_a thing_n in_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o celebrate_v festival_n day_n yearly_o in_o the_o honour_n of_o saint_n it_o be_v a_o ancient_a thing_n which_o may_v worthy_o be_v refer_v unto_o a_o apostolic_a tradition_n 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apoc._n 5._o 8._o and_o 8._o 3._o and_o it_o be_v likewise_o record_v in_o holy_a scripture_n that_o god_n do_v grant_v many_o thing_n in_o lavour_n of_o his_o saint_n decease_v gen._n 26._o 45._o 24._o exod._n 32._o 13._o 3._o reg._n 18._o 36._o 1._o paral._n 29._o 18._o 3_o reg._n 11._o 12._o 32._o 34._o 15._o 4._o and_o 4._o reg._n 8._o 19_o &_o 19_o 34._o &_o 20._o 6._o and_o isa_n 37._o 35._o look_v upon_o the_o commentary_n which_o be_v call_v chrisostomes_n hom_n 2._o psalm_n 50._o christ_n admonish_v we_o to_o make_v friend_n of_o the_o mammon_n of_o iniquity_n luc._n 16._o 9_o that_o when_o you_o shall_v fasle_n they_o may_v receive_v you_o into_o the_o eternal_a tabernacle_n and_o by_o virtue_n of_o this_o place_n s._n augustine_n de_fw-mi cuutate_v dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o ca._n 27._o do_v attribute_n much_o unto_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n 15_o this_o intercession_n of_o saint_n the_o father_n acknowledge_v admit_v and_o confirm_v and_o of_o angel_n the_o ladder_n of_o jacob_n be_v know_v gen._n 28._o 12._o other_o mystery_n of_o angel_n be_v know_v heb._n 1._o 14._o see_v origen_n against_o celsus_n lib._n 8._o of_o the_o angel_n attend_v on_o we_o and_o augustine_n cpi_v 122._o and_o of_o the_o angell-keeper_n the_o scripture_n speak_v very_o plain_o gen._n 48._o 16._o exod._n 23._o 20._o psal_n 33._o 8._o math._n 18._o 10._o act._n 12._o 15._o and_o the_o father_n most_o manifest_o greg._n wissen_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la moysis_n basil_n upon_o the_o psal_n 33._o hierom_n in_o math._n ca._n 18._o etc._n etc._n and_o if_o every_o one_o have_v by_o he_o the_o angel_n of_o our_o lord_n why_o shall_v he_o not_o call_v upon_o he_o for_o help_v i_o myself_o hear_v in_o england_n with_o great_a pleasure_n one_o of_o my_o canon_n of_o windsor_n preach_v before_o the_o king_n and_o express_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n why_o every_o faithful_a man_n shall_v not_o turn_v himself_o unto_o his_o angel-keeper_n and_o say_v o_o holy_a 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9_o of_o his_o confession_n cap._n 3._o lib._n de_fw-la cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la cap._n 16._o and_o against_o fanstus_n lib_n 20._o ca._n 21._o and_o in_o his_o meditation_n cap._n 20-leo_n the_o great_a serm._n of_o st._n laurence_n gandentius_n brix_n serm_n 17._o greg._n the_o great_a lib._n 7._o indict_v 2._o epist_n 53._o bernard_n upon_o cant._n cantic_n serm_n 77._o i_o omit_v innumerable_a other_o that_o be_v late_a see_v the_o scripture_n the_o father_n and_o the_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n do_v certain_o affirm_v that_o the_o angel_n and_o soul_n of_o holy_a man_n decease_v do_v pray_v for_o the_o live_n and_o in_o particular_a why_o then_o shall_v not_o every_o faithful_a man_n be_v encourage_v to_o pray_v unto_o they_o who_o he_o know_v for_o certain_a to_o pray_v for_o we_o in_o heaven_n 17_o wherefore_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o this_o invocation_n of_o angel_n and_o saint_n desit_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o to_o join_v prayer_n 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