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A35827 The journals of all the Parliaments during the reign of Queen Elizabeth both of the House of Lords and House of Commons / collected by Sir Simonds D'Ewes ... Knight and Baronet ; revised and published by Paul Bowes ..., Esq. D'Ewes, Simonds, Sir, 1602-1650.; Bowes, Paul, d. 1702. 1682 (1682) Wing D1250; ESTC R303 1,345,519 734

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seek the redress thereof for that the poor and ignorant be thereby abused Until which redress be had you nor your Realm neither at home nor abroad shall ever be well served of such people which be so divided and therefore speedily look to it and weed out this wickedness and error within these our days which is too much known now adays for if your Godly Proclamations were not so soon forgotten they would be amended In the Country I heard tell but since I came hither walking in the streets I have heard oftentimes more Oaths than words a pitiful hearing for if the Egyptians by whose Laws the people lost their hands and amongst the Barbarians lost their Lives for swearing and especially if it were a lie if it were so punished amongst them being Infidels what shall there be no punishment amongst us being Christians Is truth further from us professing the name of Christ and being Christians than from them being Infidels But even as Tantalus was Plagued so are we for although he had Apples even hanging at his Mouth yet could he not eat any of them and having a River of Water even as it were running by his Lips yet could he not drink but died for hunger and thirst even so are we Plagued for having Gods word and his name even in our Mouths yet we live as Infidels or as them that are furthest from the same and so having enough there is scarcity And that we may avoid this Blasphemy and the other Monsters your humble Subjects desire your Highness to see to the lamentable Estate of this Common-Wealth and the redress of the same Having perused times past and times present let us go to and well remember the time to come For Cato saith A thing well begun shall be well ended so then followeth of a good beginning a good ending For that Noble Captain Hannibal environed with his Enemies in a strange Country sounded his Trumpet to Council and thereby prospered So your Majesty hath now called the Prelates Nobles and Commons to Council for surety of the Realm We now so therefore Assembled as diligent in our Calling have thought good to move your Majesty with the assent of this Assembly to build a strong Fort for the surety of the Realm to the repulsing of your Enemies abroad which must be set upon firm ground and stedfast having two Gates one commonly open the other as a Postern with two Watchmen at either of them one Governor one Lieutenant four Souldiers and no good thing there wanting The same to be named The fear of God the Governor thereof to be God your Majesty the Lieutenant the Stones the Heart of faithful People the two Watchmen at the open Gate to be called Knowledge and Virtue the other two at the Postern to be called Mercy and Truth all being Spiritual Ministers This Fort is Invincible if every man will fear God for all Governours Reign and Govern by the two Watchmen Knowledge and Vertue and if you being the Lieutenant see Justice with Prudence her Sister executed you shall then rightly use the Office of a Lieutenant and for such as depart out of this Fort let them be let out at the Postern by the two Watchmen Mercy and Truth and then you shall be well at home and abroad The Charge of this Fort is yours being Lieutenant By Justice your place is setled whereunto Obedience ought to be taught and done which your Majesty ought to look to And so now the fear of God to be a sure Fort the Subjects Hearts the Stones Knowledge Virtue Mercy and Truth the four Watchmen God the Governor and your Majesty the Lieutenant is well proved Therefore to build upon this Fort the fear of God is nothing lacking to a happy Life for by God are all Princes appointed Who put down Saul Who made David King who sought only Gods Glory and so prospered as did Josaphat Josias and Hezechias and also Ahas as long as they sought Gods Glory prospered but forgetting God were overthrown Therefore first of all and continually vouchsafe to seek Gods Glory and his true Honour and then you shall have this Fort well built and by you well Governed Further I am to be a Suitor to your Majesty that when matters of importance shall arise whereupon it shall be necessary to have your Highness Opinion that then I may have free access unto you for the same and the like to the Lords of the Upper House Secondly That in repairing from the nether House to your Majesty or the Lords of the Upper House to declare their meanings and I mistaking on uttering the same contrary to their meaning that then my fault or imbecillity in declaring thereof be not prejudicial to the House but that I may again repair to them the better to understand their meanings and so they to reform the same Thirdly That the Assembly of the Lower House may have frank and free Liberties to speak their Minds without any Controulment Blame Grudge Menaces or Displeasure according to the old antient Order Finally That the old Priviledge of the House be observed which is that they and theirs might be at Liberty frank and free without Arrest molestation trouble or other damage to their Bodies Lands Goods or Servants with all other their Liberties during the time of the said Parliament whereby they may the better attend and do their Duty all which Priviledges I desire may be Inrolled as at other times it hath been accustomed And thus having been tedious unto you with my Speech void of Eloquence I crave your Pardon and desire your Majesty to accept of my Heart and good Will as well at this time as after and I will pray as I am bounden for your Honour long to Reign over us Then the Queen called the Lord Keeper declaring her Opinion for Answering him which he did as followeth M r Speaker The Queens Majesty hath heard and very well weighed your Eloquent Oration which you in the beginning required might not be so called but that it might bear the name of an Epistle with a Request full of good meaning and good matters gathered divided and set which you divided as I gather into four parts Three by you applied unto three times past present and to come and the fourth for your Petitions For times past being the first you opened the benefits received by us all from the Queens Majesty since her entrance to the Crown which you divided into two the one Spiritual and the other Temporal and so in some part related the same and thus passed with times past The second part for time present after you had therein declared many notable Examples of Princes which searched privily to understand the Commons talk and Opinion and the benefit thereof arising you declared to be in this Common-Wealth three Notable Monsters viz. Necessity Ignorance and Error which to redress you desired the Princes Aid And in the third part for time to come you declared how the
did forbid that his Traiterous Son Absolom should be slain and when he was killed effeminately he bewailed the same to the discouraging of his People but he was sharply rebuked by Ioab his Councellor saying Thou hast shamed this day the faces of thy Servants which have saved thy life and the life of thy Sons c. Thou lovest those that hate thee and thou shewest this day that thou passest not for thy Captains and thy Servants And now I perceive if Absolom had lived and all we had been slain it would have pleased thee well What inconvenience was like to follow unto David by this doing and what other good direction may be taken out of this History well considered for brevities sake we leave to the Consideration of wise Princes and Governours When David was so much moved with these words that he was contented to take another course which turned both to the Comfort of his Subjects and his own benefit the application needeth not If David were moved thus to do to the Comfort of his own Subjects only and the abashing of his own private Rebels how much more have we to desire God to move the Queens Majesty by the Execution of this Lady to glad the hearts of all true Christians in Europe and to abash and damp the minds of all the Enemies of God and Friends of Antichrist Obj. It may be objected that thus to proceed is not Honourable for the Queens Majesty Respons The shadow of Honour as may evidently appear deceived upon like occasion both King Saul in sparing Agag King of Amaleck and King Achab in receiving to his Mercy King Benhadad as it is in the Example in the second Reason mentioned who did pretend great honour in saving a King and thought dishonour in the contrary that one King should kill another but mans Judgment and Gods in such cases are far diverse for indeed Execution of Justice upon any person whatsoever is and ever hath been accounted honourable Ioshua a worthy Prince and Governour put to Death at one time five Kings and that as might appear rudely causing his Souldiers to set their Feet on their Necks and slay them and willed them to be stout and not to fear to do it Ioshua 10. We find also in the Scriptures that in this Zeal of Justice two wicked Queens Iesabel and Athaliah both inferior in mischief to this late Queen have been by Gods Magistrates Executed and the same Execution commended in Scripture Obj. It may be further objected that the Queens Majesty in so doing should exceed the limits and bounds of Mercy and Clemency Resp. Indeed a Prince should be merciful but he should be just also It is said Misericordia veritas custodiunt Regem but in the next Chapter it followeth Qui sequitur justitiam misericordiam inveniet vit am Pro. 20. The Prince in Government must be like unto him who is not only amiable by Mercy but terrible also by Justice and therefore is called Misericors Justus Dominus Mercy oftentimes sheweth it self in the Image of Justice Yea and Justice in Scriptures is by God called Mercy Psal. 136. Who smote Egypt with their first-born for his mercy endureth for ever In that Psalm the smiting of Egypt with terrible Plagues the destruction of Pharaoh the killing of great and mighty Kings are called the merciful works of God as indeed they were but mercy towards the People of God and not towards the Enemies of God and of his People Therefore as the Queens Majesty indeed is merciful so we most humbly desire her that she will open her Mercy towards Gods People and her good Subjects in dispatching those Enemies that seek the confusion of Gods cause amongst us and of this noble Realm It may also be said that to spare one Person being an Enemy a Stranger a professed Member of Antichrist and Convicted of so many hainous Crimes with the evident peril of so many thousands of Bodies and Souls of good and faithful Subjects may justly be termed Crudelis misericordia Petiliano objiciente Deum non delectari humano Sanguine Respondet Legimus multos à famulo Dei Moise Misericorditer interfectos Nunquid crudelis effect us est cùm de monte descendens tot Millia juberet occidi August contra literas Petiliani li. 2. c. 86. Saul Jehosaphat Reges fuerunt populi Dei dum misericordiam iis quos Deus oderat praestiterunt Dei offensam in opere pietatis incurrerunt E contrario Phinehas filiique Levi gratiam Dei humanâ caede suorum parricidio meruerunt Hierom. The same Hierom de Origine animae saith the like Sparing of evil persons is misericors inobedientia S t Augustine also saith Sicuti est misericordia puniens est etiam crudelitas parcens Object But happily it may be that some do discredit these reasons by the persons when they cannot by the matter and will put in her Majesties mind that we in perswading her respect our own danger and fear of peril coming to us and not right and true judgment Yea and that it may appear very unseemly and worthy sharp reproof in a Bishop to excite a Prince to Cruelty and Blood contrary to her merciful inclination Resp. As touching the first branch Surely we see not any great continuance of danger likely to come unto us more than to all good Subjects while this State standeth and the State cannot lightly alter without the certain peril both of our Prince and Country Now if our danger be joined with the danger of our Gracious Soveraign and natural Country we see not how we can be accompted godly Bishops or faithful Subjects if in common peril we should not cry and give warning Or on the other side how they can be thought to have true hearts towards God and towards their Prince and Country that will mislike with us for so doing and seek thereby to discredit us As touching the second branch God forbid that we should be instruments to incense a merciful Prince to Cruelty and Bloodiness neither can we think well of them or judge that they have true meaning hearts that in the Minister of God and Officer do term justice and right punishment by the name ofBloodiness and Cruelty God I trust in time shall open her Majesties Eyes to see and espy their cruel purposes under the Cloak of extolling mercy When the Prince or Magistrate is slack in punishing the sinful and wicked the Bishop and Preacher is bound in Conscience before God to exhort him to more diligent and severe dealing therein lest the Blood both of Prince and People be required at his hands 3. Reg. 20. May the Prophet be accounted cruel to incite Achab to Bloodiness which so sharply rebuked him for his Clemency shewed towards Benhadad May Samuel be justly named cruel because in like case he reproved Saul for sparing the life of King Agag and killed the said Agag with his own hands in the sight of the Prince