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A70157 A just defence and vindication of Gospel ministers and Gospel ordinances against the Quakers many false accusations, slanders and reproaches. In ansvver to John Horwood his letter, and E.B. his book, called, A just and lawful tryal of the ministers and teachers of this age, and several others. Proving the ministers calling and maintenance just and lawful, and the doctrine of perfection by free justification, preached by them, agreeable to the scriptures. VVith the Quakers objections answered. And the Quakers perfection by hearkning to, and obeying a light within them, proved contrary to the scriptures. And their practices in ten particulars proved contrary to the commands and examples of Christ and his apostles. By a lover of gospel ministers and gospel ordinances. Gaskin, John, fl. 1660. 1660 (1660) Wing G290; ESTC R223664 109,852 161

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noble Festus though a Heathen Governour he gave him the title of Honour that of right did belong unto him Pauls being a Christian did not make him brutish and uncivil the Apostle knew that Christianitie did not destroy good manners and what the Apostle practised the same he taught unto others as you may read in his Epistle to the Romans Render therefore to all their dues Tribute to whom Tribute is due Custome to whom Custome Fear to whom Fear and Honour to whom Honour and in the next verse Owe no man any thing but to love one another implying that it is a debt that is owing to men in authoritie and whosoever doth deny the paying of these dues of Tribute to whom Tribute is due and Custome to whom Custome and Fear to whom Fear and Honour to whom Honour are debtors to them though they be Heathen Governours for there were no other among the Romans at that time Also the Apostle to Timothy exhorteth That first of all Supplications Prayers Intercessions and giving of thanks be made for all men For Kings and for all that are in Authority that we may live a quiet and peaceable life in all godlyness and honesty The Apostle was no enemy to Kings and other Magistrates but commanded to pray for them though they were Heathens and persecuted the Christians but you Quakers instead of praying for them or owning the name or titles of Kings or Nobles revile them and curse them calling them at the best but by their ordinary names Also the Apostle exhorteth Children to obey their Parents for this is right Honour thy father and mother which is the first Commandement with promise But you teach that the ten Commandements are abolished and is it honouring of Parents to call them William or Jone Also the Apostle to Timothie Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their masters worthy of all honour though heathens If any man teach otherwise as you Quakers doe and consent not to wholsome words even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the doctrine which is according to godlyness he is proud knowing nothing but doting about questions and strifes of words whereof cometh envie strife railings evil surmisings Now do you think that those servants who call them onely by their names and deny that title of Masters as some do do count them worthy of all honour And the Apostle exhorteth That the Elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour especially they that labour in the Word and Doctrine but you deny that any should either rule in the Church or have any honour Also the Apostle Peter exhorteth to submit your selves to every ordinance of man for the Lords sake whether it be to the King as Supream or unto Governours and fear God honour the King Surely the Apostle was no Quaker for the Apostle giveth the title of King to the Supream Magistrate and would have him and all other Governours to be honoured but you will give no honour nor titles of honor to any man Also the same Apostle exhorteth Wives to be subject to their own Husbands and bringeth the example of Sarah for their imitation Even as Sarah obeyed Abraham calling him Lord. Whose Daughters or Children ye are as long as ye do well We never read that Sarah called her Husband Abraham or that ever she left her Husband and Family to go up and down from one place to another place to teach as some of you women Quakers do contrary to the Apostles command Keepers at home obedient to their own Husbands that the word of God be not Blasphemed This by the way Also the Apostle John directeth his second Epistle Unto the elect Lady and her Children And now I beseech thee Lady You Quakers never learned of the Apostle to call a Lady Gammer nor persons of a noble descent Gaffer and Edward as some of you Quakers have done Also the Keepers of the Prison fell down before Paul and Silas and said Sirs VVhat must I do to be saved Now the word Sirs is a Title of Honour as much as to say in our Language Lords and if it had been a sin in them to give them that Title surely the Apostles would have reproved them for it as they did those that would have worshipped them with divine worship saying VVe also are men of like passions with you VVhy do ye these things Now by all these examples of Christ and his Apostles it appears that there is and ought to be honour and reverence given to Superiors But you are so brutish and ignorant that you cannot distinguish between divine honour and civil honour forgetting that Scripture But you object that the Apostle saith that in Christ Jesus ye are all one There is neither bond nor free male nor 〈◊〉 and thou answer that a Christian is to be considered two ways First as he is in Christ that is in the matter of salvation there is no difference nor respect of persons but all are equal and alike Secondly Christians are to be considered as they are Members of a Common-wealth or of a Family and so there is a great difference and inequality of persons and that I would have you mind For if the woman should be the man if the Subject should be the Magistrate if the Son should be the Father if the Servant should be the Master would not these things bring a confusion of all states and of all things for it is impossible that mankind should be governed without these differences of persons states and degrees of men both in the Church and Common-wealth which persons ought of right to have the honour and respect due to them by all persons Christians as well as others unlesse you would have Christians more brutish then Heathens and in that you do deny the same you shew your selves so to be and therefore are not perfect and so I come to a sixth particular in which you walk contrary to the command and example of Christ and his Apostles The sixth perticular is your judging and condemning all persons that are not of your judgement and opinion That it is your practise so to do is apparently known to all that have read your Books ore that have had any society or conference with you Jona Dell in his Voyce from the Temple saith that all that are of the Baptist opinion are in the state of Reprobation And Benjamin Wallis one of your Teachers in Branford on a Tuesday being Market day and Lecture day said in the open street that they were all damned that followed the teaching of the Priests also he said in Cheeswick in an open field in the presence of many that all that followed the Teachers Doctrine that taught in the Steeple houses were all damned Now that this is contrary to the Doctrine of Christ and his Apostles is plain by these Scriptures Judge not