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A12984 A Bartholmew fairing for parentes to bestow vpon their sonnes and daughters, and for one friend to giue vnto another: shevving that children are not to marie, without the consent of their parentes, in whose povver and choise it lieth to prouide wiues and husbandes for their sonnes and daughters. Wherin is sufficiently prooued, what in this point is the office of the fathers and in like maner declared the part and duty of all obedient children. By Iohn Stockvvood, minister and preacher of Tunbridge. Stockwood, John, d. 1610. 1589 (1589) STC 23277; ESTC S105880 52,324 112

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therfore we also wil choose for ourselues according vnto our owne liking besides that the breach of dutie in the father doth not excuse the like disobedience in his sonne A bad sonne that wil haue his father go with him vnto the deuil for companie what art thou that thinkest it not inough that thou goe vnto the Deuill thy selfe vnlesse thou haue thy father to go with thee also for companie For as thy sin of disobedience if God graunt thee not repentance of the same shall in his iustice presse thee down euen vnto hel So likewise shall thy fathers marieng without the allowance of his parents be sufficient to condemne him if together with the rest of his sinnes it bee not couered in the merites of Iesus Christ our Sauiour And the example of Iudah may fitlie serue to instruct thee in this point that though thy father haue maried without the choise of his friendes yet thou art not in like maner to marie without the cōsent of them Gen. 38. for albeit Iudah tooke vnto himselfe a Cananitish woman without the priuitie and liking of his father Iaacob yet did hee prouide a wife for his owne children Er and Onan whereby wee gather that the fault the which hee committed in himselfe hee did not like nor allow of in his sonnes Setting a side therefore all cunning gloses and colourable deuises hammered in the Deuill his forge A profitable counsaile for all good natured childrē whereby hee teacheth his schollers to be subtile in inuenting reasons to maintaine their stubborne disobedience in not being ruled by the graue aduise godlie counsaile of their parentes as touching their mariage matches let all dutifull and good natured children in the reuerence and feare of God consider what honour and obedience they doe owe vnto their parents and what power and authoritie he hath in his worde sanctified vnto thē ouer their children in the Lord in regard hereof let them yeeld vnto them this dutie that their fathers hauing prouided for them such as are not of a wicked life nor deformed or euill fauoured nor of a contrarie religion they willinglie submit themselues vnto their choise which if for the present or vpon the suddain they cānot yeeld vnto let them by earnest cal ling vpon the name of God desire him to subdue in them this corrupt affection that he will frame their wil to bee plyable vnto their fathers in such lawful cases lawful I may well call them because that the ciuil constitutions and ordinances do ratifie and allow of them the two former especiallie setting downe that children are to giue the consent vnto the fathers choise where the partie chosen is not of infamous life 2 Cor. 6.14 nor in shape or fauour so blemished as it may worthelie bee supposed that the same may be an occasion of the withdrawiug of loue As for the third caution or prouiso of not grāting vnto the fathers choise in the cause of contrarie religion it is confirmed flatlie by the counsell of the Apostle where he willeth that we should not draw the yoke with infidels which if it hold in other cases of the affaires of this life much more ought it to bee of force in mariage matters mariage I meane hereafter to bee made and not such as are alreadie made for where the knot is once already knit there disparitie or vnequalnes in religion is no iust cause of seperation Yea in this most graue waighty cause In prouiding of watches for their children par●ntes ought to begin with praier I would be author vnto all christian parentes that they take not the same lightly in hand as if it were but a toy or a iest but that they begin it with praier that in the whole actiō they may in such sort be directed that they do nothing against the word of God or vnbeseeming the same authority the which God himself in this cause hath imposed or laid vpon them And thus doing God no doubt will ad a blessing vnto their godlie indeuour and holie care worke obedience in the heartes of their children as hee framed the heart of Isaac with entire affection to imbrace Rebeccah whom his father Abraham had by his Steward prouided for him And least that any should imagine that this counsell is a pecuish fancie of a too much spiced and nice conscience the parents ought to bee induced and perswaded hereunto Gen. 24.7 Aben Ezra holdeth this to haue bene a praier first by the example of Abraham who committing the charge of prouiding a wife for his sonne vnto his seruant praieth that God will send his Angell before him to direct him in this businesse Secondlie the course which Abraham his seruant taketh in the effecting of this charge dooth teach no lesse Gen. 24.12 of whom we reade that he entred into this businesse with praier Gen. 24.26 that he geueth thankes vnto God when hee meeteth with Rebeccah Gen. 24 5● that hee praiseth God when at the deliuerie of his message the parentes without gaine-saieng graunted their consent And whilest I giue this counsell vnto the parentes Children mariage-able are to pray vnto God to direct their parentes in a godly choise and to incline their mindes to accept of the same I woulde not haue the children thinke that I discharge them of this dutie of whom the same is by so much the more to be put in practise by how much they are more subiect to bee caried away with the swift current of their stay-lesse affections from whome wee heare too often these and such like more then prophane and heathenish speaches ' I will marie to please mine owne eie and not to satisfie the mind of my father I will neuer match with him that woeth my parents before he woeth me Shal I go to the father before I am sure of the daughter c. Whereas in verie deede they are not at all once so much as to make the least motion of mariage vnto the daughter vnlesse before they haue obtained the good will and liking of the father For in these cases let the daughters if they shall be thereunto sollicited and woed learne of the example of the maiden out of the Poet and of Cyrus out of Xenophon cited before to say vnto their suters My Father and my mother haue to determine and dispose of my mariage this is a matter not belonging nor appertaining vnto me The heathen haue borne themselues in this dutifull sort towardes their parentes and shall I that professe my selfe a christian come so far short of thē in this dutie as to cōtract my self without the consent knowledge of my elders Nay let thē say with Tamar as it is in the story of the kings Speake I pray thee vnto my father for he will not deny me vnto thee c. 2 Sam. 13 verse 13 And here when as I enter into the consideration of the contrarie bad course practise of
often done by vngodlie parentes who sometimes violentlie force husbandes vpon their daughters or that which is worse doe thrust them into Monasteries or Abbeies Nay aboue all thinges the consent of the parentes doth here step in betweene whose office it is to bestow their sonnes or daughters in mariage neither is it their parts rashlie to choose vnto themselues wiues c. For I cite him the more sparinglie because he hath written a learned common place of this argument the which although it be in english yet because so far as I know it is not to be had seuerallie but among the rest of his common places being a booke of too great a price for the poorer sort I haue bene the rather induced and mooued to labour also in this question and that as I trust not without some profite vnto the godlie disposed the which shall vouchsafe to read the same Marlorat after he had said somewhat concerning the choise of a wife Marlorat the which Hagar made for her sonne at the last inferreth thus Wherefore this youth speaking of Ishmaell being a man growen marrieth a wife but not but by the counsaile authoritie of his mother and within a litle space after What then ought the children of the faithfull to perform vnto their parents Doth it not beseme and become them in making of mariage to be led by the power and authority of their parents that they giue not ouer themselues vnto their owne lustes Ferus a popish fryar To like purpose hath Ferus a Popish friar noted vpon Abraham his pronouncing of a wife for Isaac by his Steward These be his wordes Note and marke that Isaac seeketh not a wife but Abraham prouideth him of a wife For this is the duty of parents and belongeth not properly vnto the sonnes whose part it is to obay Borrhaus Borrhaus vpon the 22. of Exodus ver 17 If the father of the maiden refuseto giue her A place for the power of parentes ouer their children in making of mariages that theyr mariages do consist in the arbitremēt of their parentes Which thing Orestes in Euripides alloweth saiyng And I will praise mariage when as my father shal giue vnto me awife Bullinger 1. Cor. 7 36. Bullinger expounding these wordes of S. Paul in his Epistle vnto the Corinthians But if he thinke it vnseemely for his virgin c. writeth on this sort Hee declareth by examples that which hee hath saide already that there should be no darknes in his words And we may expound that word Virgin as wel for the person as for the thing it selfe namely virginity The meaning is this if a man haue a virgin marriable and nowe ready for a husband for this I vnderstand by that which hee sayeth if shee passe the time of mariage the which Ambrose translateth if she be past ripenes of age and hath a desire to mary that is it which he saith and so it ought to be so that her father is to feare least that secretly she go about or enterprise some thing that is not comely vnles shee be prouided for by mariage now the father sinneth not if hee bestow her forth vpon an husband c. And afterwards we learne by this discourse that it is the dutie of parents to giue their daughters in mariage For among them of old times the contract of matrimony was not of any force Mariage contractes void without the cōs nt of parentes without the authority of the parents Whereunto that in the law of God semeth to appertayn the which is commaunded vnto the Iewes that they should not giue their daughters or theyr sonnes vnto the Heathen in mariage the which should haue bin in vaine if the children had bene at theyr owne liberty and did not rather depend vpon the authority of their parents yet this also must be added that it is the part of parents in time conuenient to take order and prouide for their children and that they compell them not either to virginity or single life or vnto mariage Gualter is iust of the same iudgement vpon the very same place whose words are C●aiter But here with all sonnes and daughters must mark that by this place the power of parentes ouer their childrē is established the which as it is great in other maters so here in especial hath it soueraigne authoritie wheras the question is concerning mariage For if they must prouide for their children in like maner it is their part to obey them least that by their lust and head-strong boldnesse they doe preuent the aduise and pleasure of their parentes For alwaies ought the lawe of God to beare sway with them in the which they are commanded to haue their parentes in price and honour Num. 30. And how great their authority is ouer their sonnes and daughters it is manifest euen by this that their parentes may disanull and breake the vowes which their children haue made without their knowledge and priuitie When as therefore GOD himselfe vouchsafeth to yeelde of his owne right that I may so speake and will not haue that ratified and stand the which is promised vnto himselfe if the parentes determine otherwise they doubtlesse are to be thought to bee too rash and wicked who will not submit their youthfull desires vnto the ordering and disposing of their parentes Neither may this goe for currant that any should pretend age for his excuse For there is no age the which ought to breake the authoritie of parentes established by the lawes of nature And Paule in this place speaketh of virgins the which haue now alreadie passed the flower of their age and mariage yeares and neuerthelesse subiecteth them also vnto the gouernment of their parents when as he teacheth not what they ought to doe but what their parents ought to dispose of them The ciuill lawes This in times past did the makers of the ciuil lawes deserue the which wold haue those ma riages to be void the which are made without the aduise and consent of parents vnlesse some waightie case doe will them to be ratified and stand in force Agreeable vnto this also doeth Hemingius set downe his iudgement vpon this place but in fewer wordes thus Hemingius Now he turneth his speach vnto parentes hauing daughters of growen yeares vnto whom he giueth authoritie to bestowe their daughters in mariage if they will But that which he putteth in betweene and so it ought to be is a restraint and it is to be vnderstood thus If the maiden be without the gift of chastitie it ought so to be namelie that she be giuen to be maried to auoid fornication On the other side if a virgine haue the gift of chastitie it is left free vnto the parentes to marie them and not to marie them From hence let parents learne that it is not lawfull for them to lay vpon their children a perpetual law of chastitie vnlesse they be first sure that they haue
religion zeale wisdome and godlinesse would so much as make the very least motion of any vnlawful matter to his people much lesse enforce thē by oath to enter into such a course whereby they might easilie haue bin periured had they not in this case well knowen their fatherlie power ouer their children and bene perswaded of their tractable readines in this matter to bee ruled by them Such was the discipline of that time and in such awe stood dutifull children vnto their louing fathers in those daies that being therennto required by the magistrate they durst not onely pawne their credit but that which more is giue their oath and hazard their conscience vpon the assured confidence wheich they reposed in their childrens willingnes to betake betroth themselues vnto such yoke fellowes as they should appoint and make choise of for them in honest matrimonie to lead their liues withall Yet doe I not thinke the contrarie but that in those ages like as in our time there were many both sonnes and daughters which are like vnrulie coltes and vntamed heifars could not be brought vnto this passe nor yet be yoked within this bow but the sturdie frowardnes of some certaine is no disproofe of the dutifull obedience of the better sort neither was there anie more required of the fathers then that according vnto God his commandement so far as in them lay they should doe their partes to keep their children within this compasse that is to say they were to prouide matches for them within their owne people to charge them in regard of that honour the which by God his commandement they did owe vnto them that they yeelded vnto their fathers choise and hauing gone thus far they haue sufficientlie done that which vnto them belonged and for the rest they were to leaue their rule lesse children vnto the iudgmēts of God and correction of the magistrate who in cases of disobedience where the authority of parents could beare no sway Deut 21 18. was by God himselfe appointed to minister correction according vnto the qualitie of the transgression To make an end of this ninth reason in the which I may be thought to haue dwelled too long Almost strong place our of Ieremie to proue that that the chois was in parents to prouide sit matches for their children in mariage I will shut vp this place with an authoritie taken out of the prophet Ieremie with the iudgment of M. Caluin a most worthie instrument of Christ his Church in our time vpon the same the which shall strike this matter stone dead as they say and so goe on to other proofes and these shall serue as a strong naile to fasten all the rest together to make sure all the other testimonies of scripture in this foresaid ninth reason already quoted for the faithfull alleadging of the which places vnto such end and purpose and by the holie Ghost they are directed besides that I haue the testimonie of a cleare conscience to beare witnesse of my fearfull carefulnesse to deale sincerelie and faithfullie in the handling of the word of God If I shall be therunto at any time hereafter vrged I can bring also the confirmation of the best and most learned writers Ieremie in the 29 chapiter of his prophesie among other reasons the which hee vseth to comfort the people in their long hard captiuitie Ievem 1● 6 and to put them in hope that they shall assuredlie return at the length speaketh vnto them by the commandement of God after this maner Take you wiues beget sons daughters and take wiues for your sonnes and giue your daughtes to husbands that they may beare sonnes and daughters that you may be encreased there and not be diminsshed Vpon this place Caluin writeth after this maner Wheras saieth he the prophet willeth them to take wiues for their sons and to giue their daughters to be maried this is according to the lawfull order and course of nature because that this were too preposterous or ouerthwart and topsituruy dealing that yoong men and maidens should get them either husbandes or wiues at their owne lust and pleasure God therefore in this place speaketh according vnto the common rule when as hee commandeth yoong men to be linked in matrimonie no otherwise but by the commandement of their parentes and maidens also not to marie any husbands but such as to whom they shal be giuen Here you may see in few words confirmed that Four especiall poyntes to be noted out of the wordes of Calum which in so manie I haue at large set downe before where first it is to bee noted that childrens marying according to the choise of their parentes is a thing commanded by God Secondlie that it is agreeable vnto the law of nature Thirdlie that it was a generall rule and common practise Fourthly that the contrarie dealing is preposterous and ouerthwart and as far out of square and order as if the cart should bee placed and set before the horse And marke further that in all these places cited in this ninth reason God saith not It is a cōmandement not a permission that parentes in mariage should make choise for their chils drest that parentes if they wil may prouide wiues for their sonnes and husbandes for their daughters That it were meete and requisite that it should be so but vseth euerie where the imperatiue mood that is commandeth that it be so and leaueth it not at randome to our discretion to choose whether we will haue it to bee so or otherwise to that end that we should knowe that if wee that are parentes shall neglect our duties in this behalfe wee shall not passe away with the matter slightlie and lightlie as if it were a lest a trifle but that we shall answer for it as for a transgression and breach of his commandement Hauing therefore giuen this breefe caueat and warning blow vnto fathers and mothers to think hereafter more aduisedlie vpon their duties in bestowing of their children I take my leaue and farewell of this reason giuing al yoong men and maidens in like maner to vnderstand that if they shal henceforth refuse to be ordered and directed by their parentes they shall be found rebels against God transgressors against the law of nature breakers of the common rule and custome of all well gouerned children and such so far as in them is would bring in al confusion and disorder in altering and changing Gods owne course to set vp and establish their owne vnbrideled lust and lawles affection Hitherto we haue seen how farreforth the Scriptures and places of the old Testament doe stand firmely on our side for the proofe of this question the which we haue taken vpon vs namely t●at mariages are not to bee made without the consent of parents the which as we perswade our selues wee haue proued with the a du●intage she wing that not onely children in mariage ought to haue