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A66961
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Concerning images and idolatry
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R. H., 1609-1678.
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do_v the_o adorate_a scabellum_fw-la psal_n 98._o and_o moses_n put_v off_o his_o shoe_n because_o the_o ground_n be_v holy_a exod._n 3.5_o jos_n 5.15_o gen._n 28.16_o 17_o 18._o do_v warrant_n the_o contrary_n and_o venerabantur_fw-la quondam_a judaer_n sancta_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la say_v st._n jerome_n epist_n 17._o ad_fw-la marcellam_fw-la from_o which_o he_o infer_v nun_n tibi_fw-la venerabilius_fw-la videtur_fw-la sepulchrum_n domini_fw-la yet_o be_v the_o ark_n also_o as_o well_o as_o the_o image_n of_o the_o cherubim_n liable_a to_o be_v adore_v with_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o worship_n as_o may_v be_v flat_a idolatry_n it_o be_v most_o true_a then_o and_o willing_o concede_v to_o those_o who_o i_o know_v not_o to_o what_o end_n do_v press_v it_o that_o if_o god_n declare_v that_o any_o worship_n whatever_o give_v to_o a_o image_n be_v idolatry_n no_o distinction_n about_o worship_n can_v save_v we_o from_o it_o but_o as_o you_o see_v most_o reasonable_o still_o maintain_v that_o god_n in_o this_o precept_n or_o elsewhere_o in_o the_o scripture_n have_v declare_v no_o such_o thing_n and_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n here_o disputable_a yet_o from_o who_o ought_v we_o to_o learn_v it_o rather_o than_o from_o the_o church_n which_o we_o have_v show_v in_o her_o supreme_a council_n to_o expound_v they_o otherwise_o last_o suppose_v all_o veneration_n of_o image_n prohibit_v in_o the_o second_o commandment_n yet_o if_o the_o veneration_n practise_v against_o the_o precept_n be_v such_o only_a as_o be_v lawful_o give_v to_o other_o creature_n as_o to_o sacred_a thing_n the_o misapplication_n thereof_o to_o image_n will_v be_v a_o fault_n or_o a_o sin_n because_o transgress_v some_o part_n of_o god_n law_n but_o not_o therefore_o the_o sin_n of_o idolatry_n because_o no_o honour_n be_v do_v to_o it_o but_o what_o may_v be_v lawful_o do_v to_o the_o creature_n and_o those_o as_o to_o their_o substance_n the_o mean_a and_o so_o no_o divine_a jealousy_n raise_v thereby_o §_o 46_o meanwhile_o some_o catholic_n divine_v also_o i_o grant_v there_o be_v that_o hold_v by_o this_o commandment_n any_o worship_n whatever_o little_a or_o great_a to_o be_v prohibit_v to_o image_n but_o then_o so_o do_v they_o one_a the_o make_n or_o use_n of_o any_o image_n 2_o thus_o far_o they_o restrain_v and_o contract_v this_o precept_n to_o be_v a_o ceremonial_a and_o temporal_a one_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o jew_n a_o nation_n and_o in_o a_o age_n much_o incline_v to_o idolatry_n 3_o grant_v this_o precept_n not_o prohibit_v the_o jew_n the_o adoration_n of_o other_o thing_n sacred_a the_o temple_n the_o ark_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o they_o collect_v that_o the_o prohibition_n therein_o sole_o of_o image-worship_n have_v nothing_o of_o morality_n in_o it_o by_o all_o which_o their_o opinion_n be_v render_v useless_a to_o protestant_n who_o urge_v it_o 4_o they_o labour_v here_o under_o several_a difficulty_n as_o not_o only_a god_n command_v the_o image_n of_o the_o cherubim_n and_o afterward_o of_o a_o serpent_n to_o be_v make_v but_o solomon_n voluntary_a frame_v several_a figure_n as_o without_o command_n so_o without_o trespass_v any_o and_o their_o answer_n to_o they_o seem_v to_o some_o other_o catholic_n not_o satisfactory_a this_o concern_v no_o prohibition_n in_o the_o first_o or_o second_o commandment_n either_o of_o the_o make_n or_o of_o the_o veneration_n of_o image_n such_o as_o be_v maintain_v by_o catholic_n viz._n only_o a_o relative_a honour_n and_o though_o give_v per_fw-la in_fw-la or_o secundum_fw-la se_fw-la to_o the_o image_n yet_o not_o propter_fw-mi se_fw-mi but_o such_o whereby_o out_o of_o the_o love_n and_o honour_n we_o owe_v to_o the_o prototype_n we_o have_v a_o affection_n and_o respect_n also_o to_o those_o thing_n that_o any_o way_n appertain_v to_o it_o §_o 47_o 5ly_n but_o then_o this_o respect_n or_o esteem_v of_o it_o be_v not_o affirm_v the_o very_a same_o that_o we_o exhibit_v to_o the_o prototype_n itself_o nor_o any_o such_o honour_n as_o imply_v out_o submission_n to_o it_o or_o it_o a_o thing_n hold_v more_o excellent_a than_o ourselves_o no_o inanimate_a thing_n be_v in_o reason_n capable_a of_o such_o a_o subjection_n and_o homage_n from_o man_n or_o a_o inferior_a from_o the_o superior_a but_o such_o a_o inferior_a reverence_n and_o respect_n as_o be_v give_v to_o other_o relative_n and_o appertinent_o of_o holy_a person_n or_o instrument_n of_o religion_n such_o as_o be_v give_v typo_n venerandae_fw-la crucis_fw-la &_o sanctis_fw-la evangeliis_fw-la &_o reliquis_fw-la sacris_fw-la as_o the_o second_o nicene_n council_n referred-to_a by_o that_o of_o trent_n declare_v their_o meaning_n and_o so_o again_o the_o 8_o general_n council_n cap._n 3._o recite_v before_o §_o 20_o etc._n etc._n such_o as_o be_v give_v to_o the_o holy_a cross_n to_o the_o book_n of_o holy_a scripture_n to_o the_o sacred_a utensil_n church_n altar_n last_o to_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o jesus_n for_o as_o i_o have_v show_v both_o the_o council_n and_o schoolman_n do_v compare_v and_o equal_v all_o these_o and_o defend_v that_o of_o image_n by_o the_o other_o as_o to_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o honour_n cult_a or_o reverence_n give_v they_o though_o this_o reverence_n may_v be_v gradual_o different_a as_o the_o person_n represent_v be_v more_o excellent_a or_o the_o thing_n so_o honour_v for_o his_o sake_n more_o near_o relate_v to_o he_o of_o these_o thus_o bellarmin_n de_fw-fr imag._n l._n 2._o c._n 21._o non_fw-la debetur_fw-la imagini_fw-la honour_n qui_fw-la debetur_fw-la deo_fw-la sed_fw-la minor_fw-la non_fw-la asserimus_fw-la eundem_fw-la honorem_fw-la sed_fw-la aliquem_fw-la honorem_fw-la deberi_fw-la imagini_fw-la again_o ibid._n c._n 19_o imago_fw-la cum_fw-la sit_fw-la res_fw-la inanimata_fw-la &_o sensus_fw-la ac_fw-la rationis_fw-la expers_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la honoris_fw-la capax_fw-la propter_fw-la se_fw-la &_o ideo_fw-la imagine_v non_fw-la honorantur_fw-la absolute_a say_v relative_a ad_fw-la prototypum_fw-la qui_fw-fr honour_n transit_fw-la ad_fw-la exemplar_n mediate_v &_o quasi_fw-la consequenter_fw-la na_o qui_fw-la honorat_fw-la imaginem_fw-la alicujus_fw-la sine_fw-la dubio_fw-la honorat_fw-la propter_fw-la eum_fw-la cujus_fw-la est_fw-la imago_fw-la ibid._n c._n 21._o and._n imagine_v venerandae_fw-la eo_fw-la modo_fw-la quo_fw-la veneramur_fw-la evangelia_n &_o sacra_fw-la vasa_fw-la §_o 48_o 6ly_n a_o veneration_n or_o reverence_n due_a to_o holy_a thing_n as_o the_o ancient_a opposer_n of_o nice_a do_v so_o the_o sober_a sort_n of_o protestant_n do_v willing_o acknowledge_v to_o bellarmin_n urge_v that_o judaei_n solebant_fw-la prostrati_fw-la ad_fw-la terram_fw-la venerari_fw-la imagine_v cherubin_n bishop_n andrews_n answer_v resp_n ad_fw-la apol._n c._n 8._o p._n 204._o at_o cherubin_n etc._n etc._n non_fw-la adorarunt_fw-la nam_fw-la veneratos_fw-la esse_fw-la eos_fw-la sanctum_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la non_fw-la dubitamus_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la templa_fw-la veneramur_fw-la sed_fw-la ad_fw-la adorationem_fw-la nimis_fw-la angusta_fw-la venerandi_fw-la vox_fw-la and_o cap._n 1._o p._n 35._o rex_fw-la adorationem_fw-la reliquiarum_fw-la reprehendit_fw-la non_fw-la venerationem_fw-la and_o p._n 50._o tandem_fw-la autem_fw-la eo_fw-la forte_fw-fr recidet_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la alium_fw-la eye_v honorem_fw-la congruere_fw-la dicturus_fw-la sit_fw-la quam_fw-la libro_fw-la evangelii_n vel_fw-la vasis_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la de_fw-fr quo_fw-la neque_fw-la nos_fw-la habebit_fw-la valde_fw-la repugnantes_fw-la thus_o he._n but_o if_o that_o veneration_n of_o the_o image_n of_o the_o cherubin_n be_v allow_v which_o he_o yield_v of_o the_o temple_n no_o more_o be_v by_o bellarmin_n or_o catholic_n desire_v but_o then_o for_o the_o term_n adoration_n or_o incurvation_n the_o scripture_n use_v this_o term_n for_o scabellum_fw-la pedum_fw-la twice_o and_o for_o templum_n and_o montem_fw-la sanctum_fw-la too_o see_v psal_n 98.5_o adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la and_o ver_fw-la 9_o and_o psal_n 131.7_o and_o psal_n 5.8_o or_o if_o in_o all_o these_o by_o reason_n of_o a_o prefix_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o word_n they_o be_v to_o be_v translate_v ad_fw-la scabellum_fw-la ad_fw-la templum_fw-la incurvate_a vos_fw-fr templo_fw-la or_o ad_fw-la templum_fw-la yet_o the_o scripture_n use_v the_o same_o mode_n of_o expression_n for_o abraham_n worship_v of_o the_o son_n of_o heth_n and_o jacob_n of_o pharaoh_n where_o be_v the_o same_o article_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d too_o and_o as_o much_o reason_n for_o translate_n ad_fw-la filios_fw-la heth_n as_o ad_fw-la scabellum_fw-la or_o ad_fw-la templum_fw-la i_o say_v in_o these_o the_o word_n adorare_fw-la be_v use_v and_o apply_v to_o they_o notwithstanding_o non_fw-la add_v in_o the_o second_o commandment_n to_o the_o very_a same_o hebrew_n word_n that_o be_v use_v in_o the_o other_o exod._n 20._o non_fw-la adorabis_fw-la ea_fw-la neque_fw-la coal_n that_o be_v non_fw-la adorabis_fw-la neither_o any_o thing_n nor_o the_o image_n or_o similitude_n of_o any_o thing_n sun_n moon_n or_o star_n in_o heaven_n or_o in_o earth_n this_o abraham_n adoravit_fw-la filios_fw-la heth_n must_v force_v
there_o much_o more_o reasonable_a for_o i_o to_o worship_n god_n by_o prostrate_v myself_o to_o the_o sun_n or_o any_o of_o the_o heavenly_a body_n nay_o to_o a_o ant_n or_o a_o fly_n than_o to_o a_o wooden_a table_n or_o to_o a_o stone-building_n or_o to_o the_o leaf_n of_o a_o book_n or_o a_o few_o letter_n put_v together_o in_o a_o word_n or_o to_o two_o stick_n across_o or_o to_o a_o silver_n chalice_n or_o to_o a_o wooden_a chair_n for_o in_o the_o other_o i_o see_v great_a evidence_n of_o the_o power_n and_o wisdom_n and_o goodness_n of_o god_n which_o may_v suggest_v venerable_a apprehension_n of_o god_n to_o my_o mind_n whereas_o these_o can_v have_v nothing_o worthy_a admiration_n unless_o it_o be_v the_o skill_n of_o the_o artificer_n and_o i_o can_v for_o my_o heart_n understand_v why_o i_o may_v not_o as_o well_o nay_o better_o burn_v incense_n and_o say_v my_o prayer_n to_o the_o sun_n have_v a_o intention_n only_o to_o honour_v the_o true_a god_n by_o it_o as_o to_o do_v both_o those_o burn_v frankincense_n and_o say_v my_o prayer_n in_o a_o church_n or_o before_o the_o altar_n or_o a_o cross_n i_o say_v here_o before_o because_o as_o protestant_n go_v into_o a_o church_n or_o before_o a_o altar_n to_o pray_v yet_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o the_o church_n or_o altar_n so_o neither_o do_v catholic_n to_o a_o image_n and_o as_o protestant_n do_v not_o burn_v frankincense_n in_o a_o church_n that_o the_o church_n or_o altar_n may_v scent_v it_o so_o neither_o catholic_n that_o the_o image_n i_o be_o sure_a the_o sun_n have_v far_o more_o advantage_n than_o any_o artificial_a table_n or_o a_o curious_a structure_n can_v have_v the_o beauty_n and_o influence_n of_o it_o may_v inflame_v and_o warm_v one_o devotion_n much_o more_o if_o the_o danger_n be_v that_o i_o be_o more_o like_a to_o take_v the_o sun_n for_o god_n than_o a_o church_n a_o table_n or_o a_o book_n on_o that_o account_n that_o which_o deserve_v most_o honour_n shall_v have_v least_o give_v it_o and_o that_o which_o deserve_v least_o shall_v have_v most_o then_o after_o his_o own_o reason_v end_v thus_o he_o may_v set_v the_o heathen_a himself_o upon_o the_o protestant_n as_o he_o there_o do_v upon_o the_o catholic_n '_o i_o say_v the_o heathen_a proceed_v only_o upon_o such_o principle_n as_o these_o that_o there_o be_v one_o supreme_a infinite_a be_v who_o make_v use_v of_o some_o more_o illustrious_a being_n of_o the_o world_n to_o communicate_v benefit_n to_o the_o rest_n on_o which_o account_n i_o think_v myself_o bind_v to_o testify_v the_o honour_n i_o owe_v to_o the_o supreme_a deity_n by_o pay_v my_o due_a respect_n and_o honour_n also_o in_o subordination_n to_o he_o to_o those_o subservient_fw-fr and_o ministerial_a instrument_n of_o he_o be_o not_o afraid_a of_o what_o any_o prelatist_n in_o the_o world_n can_v say_v for_o my_o confutation_n nay_o i_o be_o tempt_v to_o laugh_v at_o their_o folly_n and_o despise_v their_o weakness_n who_o plead_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o or_o before_o a_o dull_a and_o rude_a heap_n of_o stone_n or_o frame_v of_o wood_n and_o condemn_v i_o for_o honour_v god_n in_o the_o sun_n the_o most_o noble_a part_n of_o the_o creation_n if_o they_o tell_v i_o that_o the_o supreme_a god_n must_v have_v a_o worship_n proper_a to_o himself_o yes_o i_o answer_v they_o in_o their_o own_o term_n i_o by_o no_o mean_n question_v it_o and_o that_o be_v it_o which_o be_v call_v by_o they_o and_o the_o father_n see_v st._n austin_n de_n civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 10._o c._n 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v reserve_v to_o the_o supreme_a deity_n all_o that_o i_o give_v to_o the_o sun_n be_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o deserve_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o of_o its_o eminent_a usefulness_n but_o hear_v the_o personate_a heathen_a mistake_v a_o little_a for_o as_o the_o veneration_n of_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o by_o protestant_n so_o neither_o that_o of_o image_n by_o catholic_n call_v any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v before_o §_o 49._o much_o less_o do_v catholic_n do_v the_o same_o thing_n to_o a_o image_n which_o they_o do_v to_o god_n himself_o as_o this_o author_n tell_v his_o reader_n a_o little_a after_o '_o if_o they_o say_v i_o make_v the_o sun_n god_n by_o give_v it_o religious_a worship_n no_o more_o than_o they_o do_v temple_n and_o altar_n for_o the_o catholick_n veneration_n give_v to_o image_n be_v hold_v no_o more_o religious_a in_o any_o sense_n than_o that_o of_o protestant_n to_o church_n altar_n the_o holy_a name_n of_o jesus_n &c_n &c_n word_n and_o thing_n relate_v to_o religion_n not_o civil_a commerce_n '_o if_o they_o urge_v that_o god_n have_v forbid_v worship_v the_o host_n of_o heaven_n and_o so_o the_o sun_n yes_o that_o be_v give_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o supreme_a god_n to_o they_o but_o not_o a_o subordinate_a relative_a inferior_a worship_n which_o be_v all_o i_o intend_v and_o i_o hope_v they_o be_v not_o so_o ignorant_a of_o the_o nature_n of_o humane_a action_n as_o not_o to_o know_v that_o they_o go_v whither_o they_o be_v tend_v and_o my_o intent_n be_v only_o to_o honour_v the_o true_a god_n by_o it_o it_o will_v be_v too_o tedious_a to_o prosecute_v the_o rest_n of_o his_o discourse_n justify_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o sun_n rather_o than_o of_o any_o other_o sacred_a thing_n against_o the_o protestant_n as_o much_o as_o of_o it_o rather_o than_o of_o image_n against_o catholic_n and_o the_o same_o joint_a defence_n against_o such_o heathen_a may_v serve_v for_o they_o both_o that_o such_o relative_a reverence_n or_o veneration_n be_v not_o perform_v to_o those_o thing_n more_o that_o be_v in_o their_o essence_n more_o noble_a than_o other_o for_o what_o comparison_n herein_o between_o the_o sun_n and_o a_o church_n nor_o yet_o to_o all_o thing_n that_o have_v any_o relation_n to_o he_o who_o we_o principal_o and_o sovereign_o honour_n for_o so_o have_v all_o god_n creature_n whatever_n but_o to_o those_o only_a that_o have_v a_o near_o and_o more_o immediate_a relation_n to_o he_o either_o by_o consecration_n to_o his_o service_n as_o church_n altar_n etc._n etc._n or_o also_o a_o representation_n of_o his_o person_n as_o the_o image_n of_o our_o lord_n or_o some_o other_o way_n in_o the_o reverend_a treatment_n of_o which_o thing_n though_o these_o uncapable_a of_o any_o sense_n thereof_o yet_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o they_o who_o behold_v it_o we_o devout_o express_v our_o honour_n and_o homage_n to_o the_o person_n to_o who_o they_o belong_v and_o what_o thing_n it_o be_v meet_v shall_v receive_v such_o a_o respect_n we_o must_v prudent_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n and_o arbitration_n of_o the_o church_n and_o our_o spiritual_a superior_n §_o 53_o 9_o these_o thing_n concern_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o such_o a_o inferior_a veneration_n as_o be_v give_v by_o catholic_n to_o image_n be_v clear_v whether_o the_o present_a practice_n herein_o be_v also_o ancient_a and_o the_o use_n of_o late_a age_n precise_o the_o same_o as_o the_o first_o we_o need_v not_o be_v solicitous_a 1._o for_o first_o that_o which_o be_v lawful_a in_o any_o time_n to_o be_v practise_v may_v also_o lawful_o at_o any_o time_n begin_v to_o be_v so_o nor_o be_v it_o necessary_a that_o what_o be_v do_v now_o be_v also_o the_o practice_n of_o antiquity_n but_o sufficient_a if_o nothing_o in_o antiquity_n can_v be_v show_v repugnant_a to_o it_o again_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o there_o be_v any_o express_a command_n or_o precept_n in_o scripture_n either_o for_o the_o veneration_n use_n or_o make_v of_o image_n but_o it_o be_v sufficient_a if_o there_o be_v any_o example_n in_o the_o new_a or_o old_a testament_n that_o it_o be_v in_o neither_o of_o they_o disallow_v enough_o if_o a_o example_n there_o be_v of_o something_o equal_a and_o parallel_v to_o it_o the_o veneration_n of_o some_o other_o sacred_a thing_n or_o enough_o for_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o such_o practice_n if_o no_o prohibition_n find_v thereof_o in_o the_o sacred_a writ_n as_o i_o hope_v for_o two_o of_o these_o the_o make_n and_o use_v of_o image_n or_o picture_n protestant_n will_v accord_v the_o honour_n and_o worship_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o saint_n all_o will_v allow_v a_o duty_n what_o way_n or_o mode_n also_o of_o honour_v they_o more_o immediate_a and_o direct_a or_o also_o more_o remote_a and_o relative_a be_v lawful_a or_o also_o expedient_a and_o when_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n to_o determine_v and_o to_o prescribe_v to_o we_o and_o we_o be_v oblige_v to_o acquiesce_v in_o her_o judgement_n and_o submit_v to_o her_o injunction_n last_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v from_o the_o non-practice_n of_o any_o