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A70370 A letter to the clergy of the diocess [sic] of Norfolk and Suffolk wherein they are desired to challenge the Quakers once more ... to prove which of them are Christ's ministers, which may be done according to the method herein laid down, with very little disputation ... / by a member of the Church of England. S. J. 1699 (1699) Wing J33A; ESTC R37812 8,048 10

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A Letter to the CLERGY OF THE Diocess of Norfolk and Suffolk Wherein they are Desired to Challenge the Quakers once more To Meet them in the Face of the Country in Order to Prove which of them are Christ's Ministers which may be done according to the Method herein laid down with very little Disputation and to the Great Satisfaction of the Auditory By a Member of the Church of England SIRS I Being at West-Dereham December the 8th last expecting to have heard a Dispute though it proved little but Noise only a few Charges you made against the Old Quakers by which it appeared you had nothing to Object against the present Generation of them yet Charged them all down-right with Blasphemy which you pretended to prove out of their Books most of the Authors being in their Graves some of whom have been Dead these Twenty or Thirty Years and bringing not one Quotation or Instance of a late Date against them out of any of their Books as I remember tho' it seems they have lately Wrote much which I with many more of the Country thought very strange that you should be so Lavish in your Charges against them most of whom you knew not and could prove nothing against them present which might well make Mr. Archer so far to do them Justice as to say they were Orthodox That which the Quakers insisted on I with many more both of our Church and others admired at and thought it very unreasonable in you to deny which was a Copy of the Quotations out of which you pretend to Prove your Charge tho' at the same time they proffered to pay for it The last Day I was not there neither have heard any thing to purpose was done saving you Baited them with your Bugg I conceive your Design was to Prove their Religion false by your Resolving before hand on Measures whether the Quakers would meet you or no But I conceive you might have taken a better Way which is this First To Prove your own Religion True and your Selves Christ's Ministers and then you do not only prove the Quakers false but all others that separate themselves from you Perhaps you 'll say there 's no need of that the Church of England hath been proved to be the True Church many Years and Generations ago does that Prove you to be Christ's own Ministers in these Days And if you shall Evade it and say Who can disprove us to be Ministers of Christ I confess I am not willing to go about that yet must tell you There are many in this Nation and that of our Church too which do greatly Question that Point Whether you be Christ's Ministers Therefore I should think it absolute Necessary for you to Prove your Selves such if you can and that may End all Differences and bring all into One Mind again But perhaps you may think that will cause a long Dispute But I 'll tell you a Way to do it without Dispute and it will be soon done I hope you will own that the Apostles were Christ's Ministers and Preached the Right and True Gospel according to the Mind and Will of Christ Jesus also hoping you will allow that Christ's Ministers do Preach the same in this our Day as the Apostles did in their Day For the Apostle Paul seems to be very Strict concerning the Gospel which they Preached saying Tho' we or an Angel from Heaven preach any other Gospel unto you than that ye have received let him be accursed Gal. 1. 8. And the Apostle being so Apprehensive of the Need of that Advice as though he had spoken to our present Preachers comes over with it again in the next Verse Now my Masters Let me ask you one Question by Reason you call your selves Christ's Ministers What is the Right and True Gospel the Apostle preached And I do not only put the Question to you but to all those that call themselves Christ's Ministers For why None other can answer it Rightly I find two sorts of Ministers in the New Testament the First are Christ's Ministers that received their Authority as St. Paul did Not of Man neither by Man but by Jesus Christ and God the Father The Second are the pretended Ministers of Christ these are they that receive their Authority of Man and by Man of which I desire your Serious Consideration Can you say with the Apostle you have received your Authority not of nor by Men but by Jesus Christ and God the Father But if you have not how are you Christ's Ministers The Gospel you see is but One in every Age If we or an Angel from Heaven preach any other Gospel unto you than that which we have preached let him be accursed Does not this distinguish enough between the two sorts of Ministers But Christ further puts the Difference Many will say to me in that Day Lord Lord have we not Prophesied in thy Name and in thy Name have cast out Devils and in thy Name done many Wonderful Works Mat. 7. 22. And in another place We have Eat and Drank in thy Presence and thou hast taught in our Streets But he shall say I tell you I know not whence you are depart from me all you Workers of Iniquity These are they that Preach in Christ's Name and do many Notable Works in his Name yet you hear Christ saith He never knew them That is as much as to say He never sent them Why who sent them then They are sent from the Schools of Learning and without their sending they must not Preach if they have not their Authority from these great Schools as St. Paul received it from Jesus Christ and God the Father they must not be received Pray unfold these Contradictions if you can this Scholarship was all laid by with St. Paul and nothing accounted on by him tho' he had as much of it as some of my Masters being brought up under Gamaliel a Great Doctor in that Day And Christ tells Paul That he appeared to him on purpose to make him a Minister and tells him what he is to do To open the Blind Eyes to unstop the Deaf Ears to turn them from Darkness to Light and from Satan's Power to God Acts 26. Now as Christ and his Apostles bare Testimony against the Man-made Ministers in that Day so the Lord commanded his Prophets to cry in the Word of the Lord against the Hireling Priests and Prophets under the Law that Preached for Pieces of Bread and Handfuls of Barley he declared I have not sent these Prophets yet they run I have not spoken to them yet they prophesied But if they had stood in my Counsel and had caused my People to hear my Words then they should have turned them from their Evil Ways and from the Evil of their Doings Jer. 23. 21 22. Now Sirs to return to my Question perhaps you 'll say This Gospel is Glad Tidings of a Saviour that I grant is part but there goeth several other Rights