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A35131 Rebellion rebuked in an answer to a scandalous pamphlet entitled The Quaker converted to Christianity &c. written by one William Haworth ... and William Dimsdale ... / by John Crook, William Bayly. Crook, John, 1617-1699.; Bayly, William, d. 1675.; Crisp, Stephen, 1628-1692.; Stout, Mary, 17th cent. 1673 (1673) Wing C7212; ESTC R27638 40,731 115

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The Quakers catch many simple Hearts and keep them in perfect popish Slavery and Bondage and callst them Foxes and Seduc●rs c. Now consider with thy self and see how thou in thy blind Envy dost rush into lying and slandering as a Horse into the Battle● not fearing God nor regarding Man Art thou fit to be a Teacher of others who canst not bridle thy own Tongue Who will give thee any Credit in these false Charges but such as love and make Lyes like thy ●elf Dost thou know certainly what perfect popish Slavery and Bondage is Consider the Depth of thy Words and their Consequence if thy Charge were true against us Oh W. H. what hast thou done against the Innocent People of the Lord My Soul pitties thee and I can truly say my Bowels are turned for thee that a Place of Repentance thou mightst find before it be too late For thou hast quite mard thy Cause in hand and thy End the Lord hath frustrated and will of all his Opposers more and more and by the Strength of Envy no man shall prevail Will not Millions of People give thee the Lye if they should read or hear these Words of thine and abhor thy secret slaying the Innocent How darest thou so confidently assert such palpable Lyes and Slanders in the Face of Christendom The Papists would condemn and judge thee to be an envious Hypocrite should these Lines come to their Hands who are as opposite to us in their religious Wayes of Worship as Darkness is to Light and are wholy withou twith thee in their dark ●maginations And this shalt thou one Day know though at present thy Envy and Pride hath blinded thee And again sayst thou If ever Satan was transformed into an Angel of Light it is in this People and sayst They swarm like Locusts and that you have an Impudent Enemy to deal withall c. O William How came the Quakers to be thus contemptible and vile in thine Eyes that thou canst hardly find Words bad enough to reproach them with What Evil have they ever done thee How came they to be thy Enemies let God's Witness answer except for telling thee the Truth If they have any Way wronged thee let us understand it that thou mayst be righted and never foam out thy own Shame thus any more like the restless troubled Sea to the View of the Nation And as for Satans being transformed into an Angel of Light in the Quakers thou art as much mistaken as thy Brethren were that called Christ Jesus Belzebub for it is Christ in them the Hope of Glory which thou hast blasphemed against who is the true Light that lighteth every Man that cometh into the World to whom all the Angells must bow And as for their swarming which thou envyest it s not like Locusts that is thy Mistake also but as the Stars of Heaven and the Sand by the Sea-shore shall the Seed of Abraham be who rejoyced to see Christ's Day the true Light whom thou woul●st have reproached as thou hast us had he been in thy Dayes Therefore repent of this thy Wickedness and ●ease to perve●● the right Way of the Lord and pray God the Thoughts of thy Heart and the Words of thy Mouth may be forgiven thee for the Burthen thereof will be thy own and not touch us as to hurt us for we feel sufficient Armour ●● the Light against all the fiery raging Darts of the wicked blessed be the Lord forever Now to return again to some more of the young Man's Words page 17. where he speaks of another Light which every man hath not by which he saw Salvation by a Person wholy without him whose Righteousness being imputed to him Is this like Scripture-Language which you call your Rule see more of your Confusion and Blindness did the Apostles of Christ preach of a Light that every Man had not by which they saw their Salvation O strange erronious Doctrine quite contrary to the general Testimony of all the holy Men of God in all Ages Did not John the greatest of all the Prophets testifie That it was the true Light that lighteth every Man that cometh into the World Joh. 1. 9. that all men through him might believe And do you not yet believe his Testimony If ye say you do then tell us what that other Light is beside the true Light that it may beknown distinctly according to plain Scripture for I never read of such a Light by which Salvation is seen though I have known the holy Scriptures from a Child yet of this kind of Light I am ignorant but I have read of the Grace of God that brings Salvation that teached the Saints but Paul said It hath appeared to all men Tit. 2. And he is as large as John in his Testimony and of this I have some true Knowledge with many more blessed be the Lord forever and ever Now if ye are not able to give us an Account of this Light according to plain Scripture which every man hath not a Measure of by which Salvation is seen by a Person wholy without you We shall justly judge it to be a meer dark and vain Imagination of your own Brains seeing the Scripture ●aith This is the Condemnation that Light is come into the World c. And the wicked slothful Servant was not condemned because he had not a Tallent but for not improving it according to his Masters requiring but if all men are not lighted with the true Light then some men have no true Light then why should such be condemned who are so miserably deceived is this Equal But if all men are lighted with the true Light as I believe Then by your Doctrine some have two Lights another Light beside the true Light for thou sayst It s by a Light which every Man hath not So that thou mayst mean It s a greater Measure of the true Light then every Man hath or else it s another Sort of Kind of Light but if it be a greater measure of the true Light thou meanest then it alters not the Property Kind and Nature and so it s the same in Kind which every man hath a measure of But if it be of an other Kind and Nature then the true Light then is it properly another Light and so what shall we call this thy Light but a false Light or a Divination of thy dark Brain which thou mayst see by the true Light in thee thy own and W. H's Confusion and Blindness which is just from the Lord upon you all that oppose his blessed Truth and People And after thy confused Prayer p. 11. to Christ in thee and to Christ in the Heavens and by and in the Spirit as thou thoughtst thou sayst viz. Several Weeks was I in this Trouble making my Condition known to no one because I would not be perswaded to any thing but did wholy rely upon the inward Instructions of the Lord Thus did my Hope perish How didst thou wholy
with Fear and Trembling Phil. 2. 12. and Exhorted Servants to obey their Masters with Fear and Trembling Ephes 6. 5. and the true Christians received Titus with Fear and Trembling 2 Cor. 7. 15. and much more might be mentioned of them Therefore let not thy Envy blind thee any longer nor go not about to shut up the Way to the Kingdom of Heaven against People as thou hast done though the Enterance thereof thou knowest not who art found without among the Biters at the Heels of the True Woman the King's Daughter whose Glory is within Psal 45. 13. And as for thy many Ten Thousands thou boastest of we know them For Every one that doth Evil hates the Light c. which are very many and so every Evil-doer is on thy side and is one with thee as thou hast said And so the Unclean Spirits may now cry as formerly Our Name is Legion for we are many But remember thou that true Saying of old viz. That though the Wicked joyn Ha●d in Hand yet shall they not go unpunished but the Seed of the Righteous shall be delivered Prov. 11. 21. And now try thy own Spirit and thy Fruits by the Scriptures which many of you call the Touch-Stone who saith Christ dwells In you and you In him and that you eat his Flesh and drink his Blood For it is written If Christ be in you the Body is Dead because of ●in Rom. 8. And if any Man be in Christ he is a New Creature old things are passed away all things are become new 2 Cor. 5. 17. Is thy Body dead Is not Lying and Slandering and Envy and False-Accusing Sin Are not these Sins alive in thee in thy Body Let all that know thee judge Art thou 〈◊〉 Creature Let them judge if all old things be 〈…〉 i● thee And did not the Blood of Christ cleanse them 〈…〉 it from all Sin Dost thou witness the same ●●●●ct thereof 〈◊〉 they did who walked in the Light 1 John 1. 7. Dost thou w●●ness it to cleanse thee from all Sin who art in thy dark Con●usion Blasphemy and false Doctrine Belying and Reviling God and hi● People saying He hath poured forth all his Wrath upon his Son Jesus Christ What kind of Christianity is it that thou art endeavouring to Convert People to Where is one Scripture will bear thee out in this Saying of thine Though thou hast quoted Isa 50. that will not do it nor all the Coverings thou canst make will not hide thee from the Wrath to come which will overtake thee speedily and then thou shalt know that there is some left for thee and all Lyars and Evil-Speakers and that the Quakers are no Seducers as thou hast belyed them But such are Seducers as draw People from the Anointing in them which is the Truth as may by read 1 Joh. 2. 26 27. And not them that turn People from Darkness to the Light Acts 26. 18. the Anointing in them whom thou hast wickedly reproached as the Righteous God is Witness for us and against thee whose Innocent Cause he will assuredly plead with thee and all that oppose them And no Weapon formed against his blessed Truth and People shall ever prosper The Lord of Heaven and Earth hath spoken it This is written by a Labourer in the Lord's Harvest in true Love to his Blessed Truth and People and to the Souls of all People I am a Frie●● bearing Testimony against the Works of the World that are Evil And I have ●●●●ed to forgive Enemies and yet can truly say in this Concern in the behalf of the Lord and his Holy Name The Reproaches of them that Reproached thee fell on me WilliamBayly South●ark the 17th of the 11th Moneth 1673. Postscript I Having seen a Book called The Quaker Converted have considered divers things therein mentioned but I find the main Scope of that Book is concerning a Young-man that had been sometimes at the Quakers Meetings and is now gone again to William Haworth's Meeting and declares of a State of Bondage he hath been in and how he is now come to Liberty The Book is sufficiently answered with the Epistle thereunto My Purpose is only to Animadvert briefly upon one Passage mentioned in the 18th page of the said Book where this William Dimsdale hath summed up the whole Discourse in a Metaphor or Comparison of the Children of Israel's being in Egypt and in Canaan the one was the House of Bondage the other the House of Freedom to which he compares his being engaged in Faith and Judgment to obey the Light in his Conscience as his Bondage and his being delivered from that Faith and Judgment and from that Obedience to be his being delivered from Pharoah and his grievous Tasks and Burdens and his being brought into the Land of Canaan where no such Burden is laid upon him as before was said Behold here a Cloud of Gross Darkness and Ignorance which would amaze any man that is not steddy in his right Senses that ever any one should become so Blind as thus to manifest his own Shame and the great Corruption and Wickedness of his Principles and Way he professeth Mark what his Tasks were that were laid upon him when he was under this Pharoah in this Egypt viz. First Not to Lye 2dly Not to speak Idle Words 3dly Not to be among other Boys in their Sports and Pastimes though he had Oportunity thereunto 4thly Not to Wrong his Neighbour 5thly Not to Steal H●rrings though he loved them well and was tempted to them and was also sent to the Barrel alone 6thly not to sink under Hissings and Reproaches which happened to him for doing well and divers more such like Burdens which when he did observe he had Peace he saith But now he hath greater Peace in his Canaan where none of these Burdens are laid on him Oh horrible Canaan Such a Canaan sure God never led his People into nor never will where these Tasks are not laid upon them This is a Canaan for the Sons of Belial who are without a Yoak and not for Christians who must be yoaked from Lying from Idle-speaking from Stealing Herrings or any thing else and all things before-mentioned But now he is free from that Pharoah as he calls the Pure Light of Christ had not Men need take heed how they Believe him in his Words how they Trust him in his Actions or how they have to do with him seeing the Latitude of his Canaan is to have none of these Burdens laid upon him and the Latitude of his Judgment and Faith is to believe that if he doth Lye Steal Speak Idly or any other such things there is no VVrath left in God to be poured out upon him for it Nay that it was forgiven before it was done and Himself not a whit the less approved of God for doing it Nay that there is no Danger of his Salvation to Miscarry how great soever his Miscarriages may be Here is a CANAAN so called
which more may be written by another Hand towards the End of this Book as also a further Account from Hartford where he dwells concerning him which I would have the Reader take good notice of And in that he saith The Light by which the Heathens did the things contained in the Law Rom. 2. which shewed the Work of the Law written in their hearts is not the Light of the Spirit of Christ he is found a Denyer of the Scriptures John 1. 9. and Tit. 2. For if every Man that cometh into the World be lighted with the Light of Christ then the Heathens and all other Men were lighted And if the Grace of God which brings Salvation hath appeared to all Men then it appeared to the Heathens for they were Men and came into the World And herein W. D. thou contradicts thy Companion and great Adorer of thee W. H. who calls it the Deity Godhead as aforesaid and the Godhead is the same Spirit or Life and Light which was in Christ Jesus as it is written Col. 2. 9. which is Grace and Truth John 1. 16. 17. So then it was the Light Spirit Grace and Truth which was in Christ Jesus That appeared to the Barbarous or Heathen People by his Confession And so now let this Tree be judged of by its Fruits according to the Young man 's own Saying and let us see what kind of Fruits it bears for I have read That Men do not gather Grapes of Thorns nor Figs of Thistles and that A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fruit Mat. 7. Luke 6. 43 44. So by this true Rule let all who reads and tastes of these Fruits judge of this Tree the Light First pag. 7. It assented to the Words of Christ and his Apostles 2dly It Convinced him of Sin and Reproved him and called to him when he was going or thinking to Steal and it kept him from obeying that Temptation about the Herrings though he loved them and had a brave Oportunity to steal or slip one into his Pocket 3dly It caused him to be of Few Words and kept him from Lying or telling of Lyes 4thly It delivered him from Sinning outwardly and from doing any Wrong to his Neighbour 5thly It gave him Strength or Power to do that which was Good Just and Right in the Sight of God and Man 6thly It convinced him of one Sin or Evil one day and delivered him from it and another day another Evil and he had Power over it 7thly He had Joy Peace Quietness of Spirit and Comfort in Obedience to it Reply Now whence or from what kind of Tree cometh these Blessed Fruits and Effects if not from the Tree of Life Or who is the Author of or from what Spirit comes this Light if it be not the Light of Christ Jesus Is it not the Spirit of Truth that convinceth of Sin and keeps from Lying and Stealing and wronging of Neighbours and leads into all Truth to do that which is Good and Just and Right in the Sight of God and Man And was not that their Comforter who were lead and guided by it Did it not give them Joy and Peace and Comfort when they were obedient to it Read and understand Or who gives Peace to his People besides him And is it not the same Grace of God which Paul declared of Tit. 2. which taught them to deny all Ungodliness and Worldly Lusts and to live Soberly and Righteously Then did it not teach them to deny Lying and Stealing and Wronging their Neighbours and to do as they would be done by according to Christ's Doctrine Or is there any other Spirit or Light which can deliver from Sin and give Power over it but what is of Christ Jesus Is it not written of him That there is no other Name under Heaven by which Men can be saved or delivered And is he not called the Deliverer and Counseller who is the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World Read the Scriptures and consider these things Acts 4. Isa 59. John 1. 9 Is it not the Light of Christ that makes Sin manifest Eph. 5. And doth not the Apostle say in that same place vers 8 9. The Fruit of the Spirit is in all Goodness Righteousness and Truth So judge of this Tree by its Fruits if it be not all Goodness Righteousness and Truth which it brings forth And doth not W. H. say It is the Spirit that maketh known Sin which is not seen before Mark Then whensoever any one seeth Sin it is the Spirit that makes it known for it is not seen before And that it was the Godhead in which the Barbarous People saw c. Acts 28. And yet how Enviously he Clamours against the Quakers in his confused dark Mind calling their Spirit Delusion and their Doctrine Antichristian like the Foolish Clamerous-tongued Woman Solomon speaks of whose Feet are without pulling down her own House How do you think your Babel will now stand when ye thus throw up and pull down your own Work and Revile us for the same Truth you acknowledge in Words like the Hypocrites of old who said They had one Father even God and yet called Christ Jesus Deceiver and Blasphemer and judged him worthy of Death because he acknowledged himself to be the Son of God who was truly so John 19. 7. So read your Spirit and Way which is not like Christ Within nor Without though thou sayest you have both but the contrary appears in thee And ye are more like the Mad-Man Prov. 26. who cast Fire-brands Arrows and Death at you know not what comparing the Light of Christ to Pharoah or Egypt and Light of Nature Contemning and Undervaluing it as if it were not of God but what ye know not like the Jews one while A Good Man and then Nay but he Deceiveth the people So you one while it s the Deity and then Nay it s Not the Light of the Spirit of Christ but the Light of Nature Thus are you confounded about that which delivers from Sin and Temptations from Lying Stealing and doing Wrong and keeps out of Evil and gives Power over it and convinceth of Sin and reproveth for Sin and which gives Strength to do that which is Good Just and Right in the Sight of God and Man and Joy and Peace in it Take heed of the Sin against the Holy Ghost for it is near when that which casts out Devils is called Belzebub Your Reproaching of us is little to us but beware how you sport your selves with a Consuming Fire and be you Warned in time for your own Souls sake And consider your Confusion and Darkness Whether the Lord requireth Obedience Service or Worship to any other Light or Spirit of Christians but his own or what Tree or Plant would the Heavenly Father have to grow but what is of his own planting as it is written Every Plant which my Heavenly Father hath
so was not suoh a Perfect Quaker as W. H. hath said but stumbled at the very Door and VVay by which the Quakers came to know God and Jesus Christ whom he hath sent which is Life Eternal John 17. 3. as I have before shewed And so William Haworth's great Joy Refreshment and Boast of the Quaker Converted is founded upon a Lye which is of the Devil the Father of Lyes which he hath made his Refuge and Bulwork against the Truth and them that walk in it and that he might privily shoot his Arrows at the upright in Heart the Children of Light whom he calls Seducers Anti-christian in whom Satan is transform'd into an Angel of Light with many other envious rayling speeches for which the Lord will judge him But the Children of Light are out of his reach and of all such who in their dark Envy and vain Imaginations seek to devour them and as they abide in the Truth they are in that the Devil is out of and he hath no Power over them and they are armed with the whole Armour of Light against all the fiery Darts of the Wicked Everlasting Praises be to him that sits upon the Throne and to the Lamb forever who is getting the Victory over the Beast and his Image the Dragon and his Floods Whore and False Prophet And Great Babylon is sinking like a Mlll-stone whose Harpers Voice shall be heard no more at all and the Voice of her grinding Mill shall be heard no more at all Glory in the Highest The Day is come in which no Man will buy her Ware any more her Merchants are Howling and Gnawing their Tongues for Pain for strong is the Lord that judgeth Her And God is Confounding this Great City and setting up his Holy City upon a Hill which cannot be hid whose Light is like a Jasper clear as Chrystal And without are Dogs and all Lyars and whatsoever worke●h Abomi●ation and maketh a Lye And her True Light is shining and the Glory of God is arising more and more which shall shake terribly the Earth and the Inhabitants thereof amongst whom the Devil is come down in great Rage knowing he hath but a short time Rejoyce ye Children of the Lord and lift up your Heads all ye Upright in Heart Rejoyce ye Heavens and ye that dwell in the Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus and Praise your God forever whose Power is come whose Glory shines whose Dominion is witnessed over Death and Hell and the Gates of it whose Dreadful Presence is now again known which the Worker of Iniquity cannot endure The Eye-lids of the Morning are unto them as the Shadow of Death Every one that doth Evil hates the Light neither cometh to it lest their Deeds should be reproved This is the Ground of their Vexation and Rage against the Pure Appearance of the Lord But Arise O God more and more and let the Sea Roar and the Waters be Troubled bring forth thy Glorious Work already begun in the Earth and rent thou the Vail of thick Darkness from Top to Bottom which is yet spread over People and Nations that the Graves may be opened and the Dead may here thy Voice and arise and come forth to Judgment let thy Dread fall upon the Heathen round about to awaken them and Exalt thy Everlasting Truth and Name over all the Powers of Darkness that many may be gathered into thy Heavenly Kingdom of Righteousness and Peace that the Poor among Men may Rejoyce and the Meek increase their Joy in t●ee who art the Strength of thy People in all Ages who never failed them that put their whole trust in thee To whom be Everlasting Praises Glory and Thanksgiving from all that know thy Name God over all Heaven and Earth blessed forever and ever Halelujah And now Will. Haworth I would put thee in Remembrance once more to consider this thy Work and the Ground of thy Rage against the Lord and his innocent People and what the Effects and End thereof will be and recollect in thy mind and ponder thy false Charges and things which thou hast written against them in that Pamphlet and see if thou canst stand by them when examined to thy face which thou hast published to the view of many People and let the Witness of God arise in thee and answer for it s of the Deity by which thou sayest the Barbarous People saw that Vengeance was due on Murderers and see if it will not be thy own Portion who art found a Hater of thy Brother as Cain did Abel without just Cause For he that hateth his Brother is a Murderer and we know that no Murderer hath Eternal Life abiding in him 1 John 3. 15. Chap. 2. vers 11. Therefore consider it and see if thy Fruits do agree with thy Profess●on for the Tree is known and judged by the Fruits it brings forth who sayst You eat Christ's Flesh and drink his Blood and that he dwelleth IN you and you IN him too high words for a Lyar and Slanderer and Murderer for such as eats his Flesh and drinks his Blood hath Eternal Life John 6. 54. which the Hater of his Brother hath not nor the Lyar and Railer hath not any Inheritance in the Kingdom of God and of Christ 1 Cor. 6. 9 10. which thou art manifested to be both as by thy Fruits hath Appeared And so thy saying Christ dwells IN you and you IN him will not save thee from the Lyars Portion which is the Lake of Torment which is already begun in thee and the Smoak thereof ascends in this thy foaming out thy own Shame against an Innocent People for which the Lord doth judge thee and it will ascend forever if thou repent not speedily Who art so Hardened to say Thou Testifiest in the Lord that the Quakers Spirit is a Spirit of Delusion and that their Doctrine is Antichristian And callest them Seducers and other Reproachful Names and that thou hast many Ten Thousands are ready to Testifie the same with thee But Thy Lord thou hast manifested whose Name thou art in to be the Lyar and Murderer from the beginning which ruleth in thee as by thy Fruits is evident And we do judge of a Tree by its Fruits as the Young-Man also said whom thou sayst is a Quaker Converted to Christianity as if the Quakers are no Christians shewing thy Envy against them and thy Ignorance or Wilful Blindness concerning the Scriptures of Truth in which may be seen plentifully that God's People whom he hath had regard unto above all People in all Ages were such as Trembled at his Word as in Isa 66. and Moses was a Leading-Quaker Hebr. 12. and Ezekiel was a Quaker see Chap. 12. 18. and Daniel a Man greatly beloved was a Trembler Chap. 10. 11 12. and Paul preached in much Trembling and in the Demonstration of the Spirit and of Power 1 Cor. 2. 3. and the same Apostle bid the true obedient Christians to work out their Salvation