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A14462 The firste parte of the Christian instruction, and generall so[m]me of the doctrine, conteyned in the holy Scriptures wherein the principall pointes of the religion are familiarly handled by dialogues, very necessary to be read of all Christians. Translated into Englishe, by Iohn Shute, accordyng to the late copy set forth, by th'author Maister Peter Viret. 1565. Ouersene and perused, accordyng to the order appointed, by the Queenes maiesties iniunctions.; Instruction chrestienne et somme generale de la doctrine comprinse ès sainctes Escritures. Part 1. English Viret, Pierre, 1511-1571.; Shute, John, fl. 1562-1573. 1565 (1565) STC 24777; ESTC S119198 167,989 225

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and when wee shall eyther take in oure handes the booke of the holye Scriptures thereby to vnderstand of the wyll of GOD or elles that we come together in the Church to heare hys voyce by the holy Ministery of hys worde or els to communicate and be partakers of hys holy sacraments and of the prayers which are there made we oughte to goe with no lesse reuerence ne yet to prepare oure selues in none other sorte then yf we shoulde heare Actes ii God wyth hys owne mouthe speake out of the cloude and out of the greate smoke whiche was in the Mounte of Synay and that we dyd heare the greate thunders and the lyghtninges that were then sene For euen the same God whiche then dyd there speake is euen he that speaketh at thys present daye in hys Churche and shall iudge vs accordyng to that lawe whiche he hathe published there And albeit that he speaketh vnto vs nowe more familiarly and more louynglye then he then dyd yet notwythstandyng let vs not thyncke that he is of lesse power and force then he then was But in that that he vseth such gentlenes and benignitie towarde vs the punishment shall be so muche the greater vppon vs yf we doo abuse the same Yf we wyll vnderstande howe wee oughte to guide and gouerne oure selues wee muste cleane to the resolution of thys Councell and to the decrees and ordinaunces whyche we haue receyued ¶ Of the Councell that vvas holden in the Mounte Syon and of the conference of the same vvyth that vvhyche vvas holden in the Mounte Synay and of Moyses and of Iesus Christe and of the Ministery of the lavve and of the Gospell T. THys is a goodlye Councell and of greate authoritie but thou saydst that there was yet an other in the lande of Chanaan and of Iudea and in especiall in the Mounte of Syon by the verye Sonne of GOD. I woulde bee verye gladde that thou wouldest declare vnto mee also what that was D. That Councell dothe euen so muche excell the other as Iesus Christ He● iii dothe excell Moyses and the Master of the house the seruaunte For thoughe that GOD hym selfe dyd speake in proper person in bothe yet notwithstandyng he hathe shewed hym selfe this seconde tyme in a sorte muche more authentique and more excellent more amiable and agreable to the weakenesse of mans nature then euer he dyd synce the beginnyng of the worlde For when he shewed himselfe in the mounte Synay the people dyd not see his Deut. 4. Exod. xi● Hebr. ii face nor shape nor dyd see or heare anye thing but suche as were horrible and fearefull It was not lawfull for them to doo so muche as to come to the mountaine or to touche the vttermoste parte thereof wyth out daunger of deathe and to bee stoned or striken thorowe wyth arrowes were it man or beaste Therefore the people beynge greatlye amased and afrayde desired Moyses to be Exod. xx Eeu xxviii as a meane betwene GOD and them and to declare vnto them hys wyll and pleasure as hys Embassadour to that ende that they moughte heare no more that voyce of GOD so horrible and fearefull for they thought that they coulde not heare it agayne but that they shoulde all dye and dyd muche maruell that euer they coulde heare it with oute deathe Wherefore GOD knowyng the weakenesse of hys people dyd promise them to sende them a Prophet euen oute of the middest of their brethern lyke vnto Moyses into whose mouthe he woulde put his worde and by Deut. xviii the same he woulde cause them to heare his voyce This Prophete accordyng to the testimonye of Sain●t Peter is Iesus Christe oure Lorde of whome the Father hymselfe dyd saye This is my welbeloued sonne in whome I Actes iii. Math. 3. 1● haue set my whole delighte heare hym And for that cause the Apostle saythe writyng to the Hebrewes that God hath Heb. i in tyme passed oftentymes and in sundrye sortes spoken to our Fathers by the Prophetes but in these latter dayes he hath spoken to vs by hys own Sonne and making comparison of thys manifestation whiche was made by oure Sauioure Iesus Christe wyth that of the mounte of Synay Truely sayth he you are not come to the mountayn whiche moughte bee touched nor to burnyng fyre nor yet Heb. xi● to darkenesse and myste and vnto tempest neyther vnto the sounde of a trompette and to the voyce of wordes the whiche those whiche dyd heare it refused that the communication should be addressed to thē any more for they could not endure that which was commaunded If a beast touch the mountayne he shall bee stoned or elles stricken thorow wyth a darte And so terrible was the sighte that appeared that Moyses sayde I feare and quake but you are come to the mounte Syon and to the Citie of the lyuyng God the heauenly Ierusalem and to the companye of manye thousandes of Aungels and to the congregation of the firste borne which are written in the heauens and to God which is iudge of all and to the spirites of iust and perfecte men and to Iesus Christ the mediatoure of the newe Testamēt and to the sprinckled bloude of whiche declareth better things then the bloud of Abell See that you despyse not him that speaketh for if they escaped not whiche despysed hym that spake on earth much lesse shall we escape yf we turne away from hym that speaketh from heauen whose voyce then shooke the earth T. It semeth to me that these wordes conteyne a goodly conference of the Ministery of the lawe and of the Gospell and I haue a great desyre to heare it ¶ Of the manifestation of God in Christ D. THen where as the people saw nothing at that tyme but fyre and smoke and greate darcknes whiche letted them from seyng both the Sunne and the Moone Deut. 4. also the heauens God hath shewed himselfe to vs in Iesus Christe his sonne in mans shape in our owne fleshe For it is he that is the very Image of God and that very forme of hys substance the bryghtnes of hys glory It is he that is the true Iohn i ● Tim. iii Seb. i. Mal. iiii Iohn viii Sonne of Iustice and the onely lyghte of the worlde by whome all mystes and darckenesses are chased away euen those whiche let vs to see GOD. And where as then the people durste not come to the foote of the Mountayne howe perfecte and howe well prepared so euer they were to receyue the Lorde wee haue nowe accesse euen to the verye throne of hys Maiestye by Iesus Christ our Lord through whome it is geuen vs not onely to come vnto hym but also Heb. iiii to touche embrace hym for the sanctification which i. Cor. 6 Dan. ix wee haue receyued of hym that is the holye of holye ones is in deede of other vertue and efficacye then was that of Moyses towardes the Israelites In the
is there hope to remedie these thinges by the helpe of the Christian princes D. I see no greate hope in that behalfe For who be the Christian princes that maye geue order in this if they be seduced by the Pope and hys that Antichrist will be serued of them for to make him continuallye more stronge if they be well instructed in the doctrine of the Lord and that they haue a desire to reforme the church according to the rule of his worde that Antichrist forthwith endeuoureth to sturre vp al those princes and nations that are abused by him to hinder so godlye an enterprise And when one prince wil an other will not Wherefore it will be a very long time before mē may cause all the princes and other estates of the world by whose meanes such assemblies ought to be made to agrée in one opinion and to come together and to consente in one so holye a worke For we shall finde in all these estates those same difficulties lettes and excuses whereof we haue already spoken For there is so great contempte of God and of hys worde and so greate negligence and carelesnes in all estates concernyng those things that touch the honour of God the health of soules and so great a burden of their owne glory and priuate profitte and their hartes so rooted in the earth that they forget heauen and can finde at no tyme any leasure to labour in the worke of the Lordes house T. That is a verye great euill D. We may easely iudge what hope we shall haue of a generall reformation by meanes of a generall councell by the experience of those thinges which we daylye see in those places where God hath alreadye geuen of hys grace to princes Magistrates to laye their hands to his works to beginne some maner of reformation in his church Let vs beginne with the best reformed church that may be found in christendome and let vs compare the forme and order of it with that that was in the auncient church I meane not of the most perfect that euer was as of that of the Apostles but of that church that was longe after the Apostles tyme what difference shall we finde T. I thinke we shall finde very great difference D. So great as we shall be ashamed to call a reformation the reformation that we shall therein find seing the deformitie that ther yet doth rest wherof euery man complayneth and yet no man can remedie it ¶ Of the negligence and vvante that is in the ministers of the church and generally in all other estates wherby the reformation of the church is hindred T. WHat is the cause thereof D. Euery man in his calling for oftentimes it is seene that the Ministers are negligent in their ministerye and doe not call vpon the magistrates and people exhorting them to execute their offices vprightly and sincerely as they ought to doe for often tymes it is seene that they them selues do as much or more feare a reformation then others do And if there be defaulte and negligence in those men which shoulde be a lyght vnto others let vs then well wey what may be found in the magistrates and people For there are very few which on their part feare not a reformation and desire not at all to frame it according to the rule of the worde of God to directe theyr liues and maners according to the same but rather to make the worde of God subiecte to them and to haue a reformation according to their own will pleasure And frō whence commeth al this but onely from an euill conscience and of a disordinate desire that is in men of a carnall libertie and of a manifest rebelliō against God For they will not haue God to reigne ouer them but they will liue and reigne at their pleasure They can not endure to haue their naughtie affections and dissolute maners to be bridled and the abuse of their estates corrected and their tyrannye suppressed by the worde of God They besturre them on euery side by all meanes possible and employe all their forces to caste of the yoke of the Lord to the end they wil not be subiecte to him and consider not in the meane time that in refusing to yeld vnto God that obedience whiche they owe vnto hym they rest subiectes to the deuil and become daily more and more his slaues for they had rather to reigne by the deuil and the deuill to reigne in them thē to liue and reigne by God and God to reigne in them and ouer them Wherefore we may well say of them altogether that which S. Paule did of the ministers of his tyme at which time the worde of God dyd geue fruite in other sort then now it doth Euery one sayeth Phill. 1 he is about his own busines and careth but for himself and not for Iesus Christ It cōmeth somtime to passe that there are good ministers and that on their part do acquite some pece of their duetie in thys behalfe but those which are ioyned in the same ministerie with them shoulde helpe them and drawe with them in the same yoke that they drawe are oft tymes those that hinder them more then any others T. When this happeneth the hindraunce is not small for one onely horse that draweth backewarde doth hinder more then sixe horses which draw forward are able to ouercome ¶ Of the empeachmentes that men geue one to an other in the reformation of the church and of the punyshment of God vpon them for the same cause D. IF it so come to passe that the Ministers agree wel and do wel acquite them of their duetie peraduenture they shall not finde the Magistrates and officers of that same sorte which will put to their handes to helpe them in theyr ministerye as their office requireth but will rather bande against them to ouerthrowe all good discipline and will rather maintayne vicious men then vertuous Or ells if it come so to passe that the Magistrates and officers bee well affected towarde the reformation of the Church they may meete with ministers which shall not greatlye hasten them forward but will rather disswade them from it where they ought to perswade them to it and will rather geue them libertie to runne a straye then to put them in the right path Or if it so come to passe that the Ministers and Magistrates with the officers bee all of one mind as concernyng holye things and do helpe one an other in the workes of the Lord which thing is very seldome sene yet shall they haue much to do to range the people vnder any good discipline For ther are fewe which are tractable and will willinglye submitte them selues vnto it and if there bee some of so good a sorte there shall be some Minister or some Magistrate that shall seke to altar him and be offended with him Wherfore seing that there are so fewe Ministers Magistrates and people that are willing to submitte