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A28899 A defence of the Scriptures, and the Holy Spirit speaking in them, as the chiefe iudge of controversies of faith ... with a vindication of that honour due to magistrates, ministers, and others ... in a relation of a disputation at Chesterfield in the county of Darby, between some ministers of the Gospell and James Naylor, an erring Quaker ... : with some animadversions upon a lying relation of that disputation, published by Iames Nayler / by Immanuel Bourne ... Bourne, Immanuel, 1590-1672. 1656 (1656) Wing B3852; ESTC R23281 45,977 64

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unto death of which St John witnesseth There is a sinne unto death I say not that thou shouldest pray for it 1 John 5.16 Now for thy twenty Quaeries Nayler which thou sentest and addest towards the end I have in part answered them already in what I have writ and part of them are such Questions against which St Paul speaketh as tending not to edification of those who are weak in the faith Rom. 14.1 2. but rather to their distraction if not destruction therefore more fit to be silenced and buried in darknesse then to be revived or brought to light Secondly some are hypocriticall like that of Herod to the wise men Mat. 2.7 8. Thirdly some are curious Questions to satisfie curious busie minds such as thou art which being answered will not profit to godlinesse or edification contrary to the rule 1 Cor. 14.26 Fourthly some of them are tempting captious Questions like those of the Pharisees thy Fathers to Christ our Saviour which he either answereth by Questions to his adversaries againe or else wisely rejects or avoids to escape their treacherous designes against him as Mat. 21.23 24 c. Mat. 22.16 17 18 c. Fifthly some are foolish and unlearned Questions which gender strifes not love or any benefit to soules and which the Apostle directs Timothy to avoid 2 Tim. 2.23 and giveth the same command to Titus because saith he they are unprofitable and vaine Tit. 3.9 And I had rather follow St Pauls counsell then satisfie thy folly It is the counsell of the wise man in some such cases to be silent Prov. 26.4 Yet if thou wilt have an answer to thy twenty Quaeries and to thy challenge and brags lest thou be wise in thy own conceit or any of thy generation Prov. 26.5 know that all or most of them or those that are fit to be replyed unto they are sufficiently answered by divers religious learned men Ministers of the Gospell and others If any desire to see First let them read learned Mr Baxter's answer to the sixteen Quaeries The Worcester petition d●fended printed 1653. upon the Wostershire Petition to which is added seventeen Counter-Quaeries not yet answered by thee and thy fellowes that I have seen 2. Read Mr Baxters Quakers Catechism The Quakers confuted printed 1654. and the Quakers Questions answered there printed 1655. 3. Read godly Mr Eaton in his book called the Quakers confuted being an answer to nineteen quaeries of thy companions in which your weaknesse and erroneous wickednesse is discovered and the truth vindicated 4. Read that book called the Perfect Pharisee The Perfect Pharisee printed 1654. in which by way of position and proofe your wandring quaeries are learnedly and religiously answered by those five godly Ministers nere New Castle 5. Mr Fowler c printed 1655. Read solid and accute Mr Fowler 's book called Satan at Noon Day of the severall sorts of Quakers and Familists And there you may see the matter of these familisticall quaeries answered and errors confuted to their sorrow if they had grace to be sensible 6. The mystery of ungodlinesse printed 1653. Read judicious and zealous Mr Farmer of Bristol in his book entituled the Mystery of Godlinesse and ungodlinesse in which the Questionist ungodlinesse is there discovered to their shame 7. Reverend and succinct Mr Sherlock's answer to twenty seven of the Quakers wild Questions Mr Sherlock printed 1654. and his learned discourse of the Spirit annexed which might stay these erring wandring spirits from their false pretences to the spirit of Christ 8 Read that profitable book A brief relation printed 1653. of that observant Author called A Briefe Relation of the Irreligion of the Northern Quakers wherein their horrid principles and practises doctrines and manners are exposed to the view of every intelligent Reader and the Quakers Sauls errand to Damascus in which are said to be an hundred lies replied unto 9. Antichrist in man printed 1655. Witness that booke entituled Antichrist in man the Quakers Idoll by Mr Joshua Milner a servant of Christ in the Gospell in which is an answer and confutation of some of the Quakers dangerous and damnable doctrines 10. Mr Prins Quakers unmasked printed 1656. witnesse godly and learned Mr William Prinne Esquire detecting these Quakers to bee but the spawne of the Romish Frogs Jesuites and Franciscan Fryars sent from Rome to seduce poore soules in this English Nation with his reply to John Audlands rayling paper by which and what I have proved in my Answer and Arguments upon the Questions before which were Disputed any Christians seeing eye may see that James Nayler and his wandring fellow Quakers are but poor pedlers for the Priests of Rome and the Jesuits servants carrying up and downe the Nation their packs of errours and bags of paper-quaeries invented and hatched in Antichrists and the devils warehouse which they offer at every door or place where they come like braided baused rotten wares to deceive and couzen poor soules and to disturbe the peace and quiet of the Nation that this common enemy may more easily wheele us about to Rome and Romish Tyranny and so bring us to confusion from the highest to the lowest from which God of his mercy protect us And for Ministers maintenance Gen. 14.20 Gen. 28.22 Lev. 27.30 31. Numb 18.21 Deut. 10.8 9. Mal 3 8 9. Mat. 23 23. 1 Cor. 9 13.14 1 Tim. 5.17 Heb. 7.8 Printed for Mr Iohn Wright in the Old Bayly 1646. Mr Deacons discovery printed 1656. read Dr Carleton Dr Tillesley Dr Slater Sir Henry Spelman Sir James Sempel Mr William Prin Esquire my owne sixt book I have printed called a light from Christ leading unto Christ and divers others who have sufficiently proved Tythes not only lawfull but due by divine Right to Christ and the Ministers of Christ in the Gospell and that the taking them away without due redemption is that sinne of sacriledge Last of all for I let passe others Read Mr John Deacon a solid and sharp Questionist Replyant and Demandant In his publike discovery of a secret deceit or the man of sin unmasked and Satan transformed into the resemblance of an Angell of light in that Sect or Society commonly called Quakers in which you have nineteen quaeries sent to the Quakers Speaker at the bull and mouth neer Aldersgate and miserably answered by James Nayler whom he calleth justly the grand fomentor of heresie and replyed unto by Mr Deacon and fourteen more returned by Nayler and fully answered by Mr Deacon and foure and twenty more proposed by Mr Deacon which nor James Nayler nor any of his fellow Quakers I believe can truly and plainly answer but they must denie the holy Scriptures or forsake their owne false erronious and hereticall principles And thus I have said enough to direct James Nayler and all his deceived deluding Antichristian pharisaicall company of Quakers where they may finde Answers to their so much bragged of quaeries It would be happy for them if they could leave their errours and enquire after the knowledge of Christ that they may be taught by him Eph. 4.20 21. as the truth is in Jesus which I desire I may pray for And now dear soules if any of you that belong to Jesus Christ have been drawn away with the errour of these wicked perfect pharisees as they are rightly called return againe to your first Husband Christ your Saviour Hos 2.7 you will finde it will be better with you so then now it is and fly the society of these deluding equivocating Antichristian Quakers who speak sometimes of the Scriptures but deny them to be the word of God and make use of them in shew but not in sincerity and truth Who pretend to a Christ within them but deny the merits of Christs blood and righteousnesse of Christ imputed to beleevers for Justification and salvation Some who proudly boast George Fox Iames Nayler c. proved before Read their books and where doe you read of asking forgivenesse of sin for Christs sake they are equall with God and as holy just and good as God that they are perfect and without sinne and therefore ask no forgiveness of sins at Gods hand for Christs merits sake casting away both the Article of Faith in which we profess we believe remission of sinnes and that petition of the Lords prayer in which our Saviour teacheth us to pray Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespass against us Yea they endeavour to draw poore soules from Christs publike Ordinances and to forsake the plain straite way to Heaven Mat. 7. like cheating thieves draw them into by waies Mat. 7.14 that they may-more securely rob and spoil them of the rich treasure of the Gospell and blessed way to glory Seek then my friends to Christ who is the wisedome of the Father Prov. 8. Col. 2.3 for wisedome and power to depart from the tents of these wicked men Numb 16.16 and to turne againe unto the Lord that ye perish not in their Apostacy from Christ And for you my honoured pretious soules and well beloved in the Lord Jesus who by strength from Christ have withstood the temptations of these deluding Quakers and are established in the Faith of Christ Watch still and beware ye be not drawn away with the errour of the wicked and fall from your owne stedfastnesse and labour in the use of all good means publike in the congregations of the saints private in your families and secret in your closets by the power of Christ and assistance of the Spirit of holiness John 15.5 Phil. 4.13 to grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ 2 Pet. 3.17 18. To whom with God the Father and God the blessed Spirit be glory both now and for ever Amen Immanuel Bourne FINIS