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A65714 Romish doctrines not from the beginning, or, A reply to what S.C. (or Serenus Cressy) a Roman Catholick hath returned to Dr. Pierces sermon preached before His Majesty at Whitehall, Feb. 1 1662 in vindication of our church against the novelties of Rome / by Daniel Whitbie ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1664 (1664) Wing W1736; ESTC R39058 335,424 421

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our_o church_n liturgy_n sect._n 10._o saint_n chrysostome_n not_o for_o they_o but_o against_o they_o sect._n 11._o his_o citation_n abuse_v by_o master_n cressie_n ib._n as_o likewise_o saint_n ambrose_n sect._n 12._o the_o doctor_n argument_n from_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n vindicate_v sect._n 13_o 14._o mr._n cressie_n evasion_n confute_v sect._n 15._o the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n against_o the_o doctor_n exposition_n evidence_v and_o confess_v by_o jansenius_n sect._n 16_o 17._o a_o argument_n against_o transubstantiation_n sect._n 18._o why_o the_o father_n not_o insist_v on_o sect._n 19_o the_o father_n be_v not_o for_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n sect._n 20._o saint_n chrysostome_n saint_n ambrose_n and_o saint_n augustine_n testimony_n consider_v sect._n 21_o 22_o 23._o the_o contrary_a evidence_v from_o doctor_n taylor_n sect._n 24._o in_o this_o chapter_n we_o meet_v with_o many_o misadventure_n sect._n 1_o 124._o mr._n cressie_n p._n 124._o and_o mistake_n as_o 1._o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v as_o old_a as_o the_o first_o general_a council_n whereas_o it_o be_v never_o use_v by_o any_o father_n or_o at_o least_o never_o apply_v unto_o this_o matter_n for_o the_o space_n of_o a_o thousand_o year_n and_o upward_o nor_o can_v i_o find_v any_o of_o their_o own_o writer_n beside_o himself_o that_o ever_o plead_v the_o use_n of_o such_o a_o word_n 2._o another_o mistake_n be_v that_o the_o church_n only_o say_v the_o change_n make_v in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n be_v usual_o call_v transubstantiation_n when_o the_o trent_n council_n express_o tell_v we_o 124._o mr._n cressie_n p._n 124._o that_o it_o be_v call_v so_o propriè_fw-la convenienter_fw-la &_o aptissime_fw-la most_o fit_o proper_o and_o convenient_o 3._o whereas_o you_o tell_v we_o sect._n 5_o that_o it_o be_v a_o difficult_a matter_n to_o define_v what_o be_v our_o church_n tenent_n
be_v conjoin_v to_o his_o brother_n he_o enjoy_v the_o pleasure_n of_o everlasting_a life_n bless_v be_v you_o both_o if_o my_o orison_n can_v prevail_v any_o thing_n no_o day_n shall_v overslip_v you_o in_o silence_n no_o oration_n shall_v pass_v you_o over_o unhonour_v no_o night_n shall_v steal_v by_o wherein_o i_o will_v not_o bestow_v upon_o you_o some_o portion_n of_o my_o prayer_n with_o all_o oblation_n will_v i_o frequent_v you_o only_o the_o mischief_n be_v he_o do_v not_o add_v till_o i_o find_v a_o deliverance_n of_o you_o from_o purgatory_n or_o any_o such_o word_n indeed_o in_o his_o oration_n on_o the_o death_n of_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o will_v follow_v he_o to_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n nor_o will_v he_o leave_v he_o till_o by_o his_o prayer_n and_o tear_n he_o have_v bring_v he_o into_o that_o place_n his_o desert_n do_v challenge_v quò_fw-la sva_fw-la merita_fw-la vocant_fw-la viz._n into_o the_o holy_a mount_n of_o god_n where_o there_o be_v everlasting_a life_n where_o there_o be_v no_o contagion_n of_o corruption_n no_o sigh_n no_o grief_n no_o company_n of_o the_o dead_a do_v he_o understand_v it_o of_o soul_n then_o must_v none_o of_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v in_o heaven_n of_o body_n i_o hope_v our_o body_n must_v not_o go_v to_o purgatory_n with_o our_o soul_n but_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n where_o this_o mortal_a shall_v put_v on_o immortality_n this_o corruptible_a incorruption_n but_o yet_o he_o present_o tell_v we_o that_o theodosius_n remain_v in_o light_n and_o glory_n in_o the_o company_n of_o the_o saint_n purgatory_n to_o be_v sure_o be_v a_o place_n that_o he_o have_v cause_n to_o glory_n of_o and_o enjoy_v rest_n for_o his_o soul_n they_o rest_v very_o quiet_o sleep_v in_o utramque_fw-la aurem_fw-la in_o purgatory_n yea_o a_o little_a before_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o now_o enjoy_v eternal_a light_n i_o suppose_v as_o be_v enlighten_v by_o the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n and_o continual_a tranquillity_n and_o for_o the_o thing_n which_o he_o do_v in_o this_o body_n he_o rejoice_v in_o the_o fruit_n of_o god_n reward_n and_o be_v that_o think_v you_o purgatory_n and_o because_o he_o love_v the_o lord_n his_o god_n he_o have_v obtain_v the_o society_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o you_o will_v say_v if_o saint_n ambrose_n think_v he_o in_o bliss_n or_o a_o happy_a state_n what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o his_o former_a word_n ans_fw-fr you_o may_v see_v by_o what_o be_v say_v already_o that_o he_o can_v intend_v to_o bring_v he_o out_o of_o purgatory_n by_o his_o prayer_n which_o be_v sufficient_a for_o i_o nor_o 2._o can_v he_o be_v suppose_v to_o weep_v for_o he_o till_o his_o mortal_a do_v put_v on_o immortality_n unless_o he_o think_v he_o shall_v live_v till_o the_o resurrection_n or_o theodosius_n rise_v before_o it_o well_o then_o 3._o dally_n will_v tell_v you_o that_o it_o be_v usual_a in_o scripture_n and_o sacred_a writer_n to_o speak_v of_o thing_n as_o do_v which_o they_o be_v certain_a will_v come_v to_o pass_v so_o isaac_n say_v gen._n 27.37_o i_o have_v make_v jacob_n esau_n lord_n and_o all_o his_o brethren_n his_o servant_n because_o he_o have_v foretell_v it_o will_v be_v so_o even_o thus_o s._n ambrose_n say_v he_o will_v never_o leave_v pray_v till_o the_o emperor_n resurrection_n because_o he_o be_v sufficient_o assure_v that_o god_n will_v raise_v he_o unto_o life_n eternal_a and_o transser_v he_o to_o heaven_n now_o then_o see_v it_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n that_o ambrose_n think_v they_o both_o in_o heaven_n or_o in_o abraham_n bosom_n viz._n the_o emperor_n valentinian_n and_o theodosius_n be_v it_o possible_a he_o shall_v pray_v for_o their_o deliverance_n out_o of_o purgatory_n what_o good_a can_v they_o need_v beside_o that_o which_o he_o pray_v for_o a_o speedy_a resurrection_n who_o already_o enjoy_v the_o pleasure_n of_o eternal_a life_n if_o eternal_a life_n be_v purgatory_n i_o will_v not_o give_v two_o penny_n for_o the_o pope_n indulgence_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o it_o this_o be_v so_o be_v not_o our_o author_n a_o brave_a juggler_n who_o dare_v add_v for_o deliverance_n to_o saint_n ambrose_n and_o that_o he_o may_v not_o be_v find_v out_o cite_v neither_o place_n nor_o tell_v we_o of_o what_o emperor_n whether_o theodosius_n or_o valentinian_n he_o mean_v it_o albeit_o he_o produce_v the_o place_n only_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o ancient_n think_v the_o soul_n depart_v to_o have_v some_o present_a refreshment_n which_o indeed_o they_o do_v allow_v to_o saint_n suppose_v to_o be_v in_o abraham_n bosom_n and_o that_o from_o the_o company_n of_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o the_o vision_n of_o christ_n which_o they_o be_v suppose_v to_o enjoy_v in_o those_o receptacle_n &_o the_o increment_n of_o divine_a light_n and_o joy_n which_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o he_o have_v four_o place_n more_o out_o of_o saint_n austin_n in_o behalf_n of_o purgatory_n sect._n 14_o 21_o confess_v l._n 9_o c._n 21_o but_o the_o 1._o where_o his_o mother_n beg_v that_o she_o may_v be_v remember_v at_o the_o altar_n fall_v strange_o short_a of_o purgatory_n since_o i_o have_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o those_o who_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v in_o heaven_n be_v there_o remember_v and_o this_o remembrance_n be_v make_v for_o divers_a other_o reason_n nor_o 2._o be_v there_o any_o thing_n in_o that_o which_o saint_n austin_n say_v 5._o de_fw-fr cnra_fw-la per_fw-la mortem_fw-la c._n 5._o we_o must_v by_o no_o mean_n omit_v necessary_a supplication_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a that_o repose_n may_v be_v obtain_v to_o they_o since_o it_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n that_o they_o pray_v for_o repose_v to_o all_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n depart_v and_o saint_n ambrose_n beg_v rest_n for_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n of_o who_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o be_v in_o rest_n already_o nor_o will_v the_o 3._o place_v cite_v out_o of_o his_o enchiridion_n do_v he_o service_n viz._n 110._o c._n 110._o that_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v as_o a_o thanksgiving_n for_o martyr_n but_o as_o a_o propitiation_n for_o other_o for_o 1._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o saint_n austin_n when_o he_o write_v this_o book_n be_v of_o saint_n chrysostoms_n opinion_n for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o 110._o e●ch_o c._n 110._o that_o these_o who_o our_o suffrage_n do_v profit_n they_o do_v it_o either_o that_o they_o may_v have_v a_o full_a remission_n or_o a_o more_o tolerable_a damnation_n and_o then_o no_o wonder_n if_o he_o allow_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o prayer_n to_o profit_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n 2._o it_o may_v be_v offer_v for_o a_o propitation_n in_o respect_n of_o other_o and_o they_o not_o in_o purgatory_n but_o in_o abraham_n bosom_n as_o well_o as_o saint_n augustine_n may_v pray_v so_o earnest_o for_o his_o mother_n that_o god_n will_v be_v propitious_a to_o she_o and_o yet_o she_o be_v in_o abraham_n bosom_n as_o above_o be_v manifest_v as_o to_o that_o 4._o instance_n which_o he_o call_v convince_a possidius_n ser._n 32._o de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apost_n note_v that_o this_o 32._o sect._n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o index_n of_o possidius_n the_o outmost_a that_o can_v be_v gather_v from_o it_o be_v that_o in_o saint_n augustine_n and_o the_o church_n judgement_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v that_o our_o brethren_n be_v help_v by_o these_o prayer_n so_o that_o god_n may_v deal_v with_o they_o more_o merciful_o than_o their_o sin_n deserve_v and_o that_o prayer_n and_o offering_n be_v make_v for_o they_o out_o of_o a_o intention_n of_o commend_v they_o to_o god_n mercy_n and_o what_o of_o all_o this_o for_o 1._o do_v not_o the_o same_o austin_n pray_v that_o god_n will_v deal_v more_o merciful_o with_o his_o mother_n then_o her_o sin_n deserve_v do_v he_o not_o commend_v she_o to_o god_n mercy_n albeit_o he_o very_o think_v she_o be_v in_o abraham_n bosom_n 2._o what_o be_v this_o more_o than_o what_o saint_n paul_n pray_v for_o onesiphorus_n that_o he_o may_v find_v mercy_n in_o that_o day_n the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o saint_n peter_n speak_v of_o sin_n to_o be_v blot_v out_o at_o the_o day_n of_o our_o refreshment_n well_o then_o they_o commend_v their_o brethren_n to_o god_n mercy_n as_o know_v that_o they_o deserve_v these_o punishment_n from_o which_o they_o can_v not_o be_v otherwise_o deliver_v then_o by_o the_o clemency_n and_o mercy_n of_o god_n which_o be_v very_o true_a and_o yet_o make_v not_o at_o all_o for_o purgatory_n and_o indeed_o their_o prayer_n for_o pardon_n of_o sin_n be_v only_o thus_o that_o god_n will_v at_o the_o last_o day_n proclaim_v they_o pardon_v and_o will_v not_o cast_v they_o