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A43489 An astrological discourse with mathematical demonstrations proving the powerful and harmonical influence of the planets and fixed stars upon elementary bodies in justification of the validity of astrology : together with an astrological judgment upon the great conjunction of Saturn & Jupiter, 1603 / written by that worthy, learned gentleman, Sir Christopher Heydon, Knight ; and now published by Nicholas Fiske ... Heydon, Christopher, Sir, d. 1623.; Fiske, Nicholas. 1650 (1650) Wing H1663; ESTC R16056 46,071 129

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to affect Iron that hath either layn long North and South in some old building or that otherwise hath bin forg'd at such a position as precisely respecteth the same But above all who is so ignorant of the like impression in the Load-stone as that he knoweth not the Mariner thereby to shape his Course and to be further able by the ingenious diligence of our Countryman Mr D Gilbert to give the elevation of the Pole wheresoever he be come Considering therefore that this distinction of Regions is not to be ascribed to any Star but to the whole Systeme or Body of Heaven therefore here we see directly a respective quality impressed in these Subjects which cannot be ascribed to any thing but the matter of Heaven Again whereas even Picus himself and the Enemies of Astrologie do grant thus much to Aristotle That if Heaven were quiet and stood still nothing could have motion which granted it also followeth according to the proportion of the first motions which are proper to Heaven That all the natural motions of inferior things are both excited and ordinated Valesius demandeth whether Heaven simply performeth the same by the motion thereof or by accident By simply he meaneth as if Heaven did communicate this motion only because it is moved By accident as if by moving is communicateth an accidental faculty of motion unto other things as when the hand moveth the candle to flax the hand by his own motion moveth the candle and so burneth the flax or straw the one by it self because it doth not otherwise move the candle then by the motion of the hand but it doth the other by accident because by moving of the hand and the candle it also conveyeth the flame which burneth of it self If therefore Heaven by the motion thereof doth immit any motive faculty unto things by help whereof they are moved then hath it of necessity another virtue of moving besides the own Motion But if Picus to avoyd this deny Heaven to impart any such virtue and persist in this opinion that Heaven moveth because it is moved Then saith Valesius it shall not skill of what matter Heaven consisteth seeing this effect would as well follow if Heaven were of wood mettal or stone and were withall carryed about But this could not be For if a wooden Sphere were turned about circularly over our heads why should a stone and smoak for example move in a streight line the one upward the other downward For whatsoever moveth another it doth it either by impulsion attraction volutation or vection But a stone falling is neither drawn thrust forward carryed or turned about by Heaven seeing the same falleth in a streight line Wherefore Valesius strongly concludeth That the matter of Heaven concurreth with those things that are moved by immitting some virtue which moveth every thing in the kind which yet is diverse from the circular motion it self Besides if that be true which Aristotle and with him hitherto Schools of Philosophy do teach in the definition of a Star That there is no difference between the same and the Orb wherein it is fixed but that the Star is Densior pars ejusdem Then I say it doth unanswerably follow That as the Stars differ one from another in Motion Magnitude Colour and Virtue so likewise those parts of Heaven wherein they are fixed must needs admit the like variety of nature and qualities If any following the late opinion of Tycho and others shall here deny the Stars to be fixed and inherent in the matter of Heaven and affirm the substance thereof to be liquid giving way as the Stars move through the same I answer That besides it will be incomprehensible in a mans understanding how all Stars should finish the diurnal motion from East to West and yet in the same moment strive with a contrary Endeavor in that which we call the proper motions from the West to the East and that which is more at once both ascend and descend from or neerer to the Earth They shall hardly in the end be able to make this their conceit stand with the motion of {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} which as it is evident to Sense is the very substance and matter of the Heaven it self differing only from the rest of Heaven in whiteness of colour And yet we see both the same Stars now contained within the latitude thereof and others to describe and limit the tract of this Circle as it crosseth the Zodiack from one Tropick to the other which Ptolomy did comprehend define the same by in his time which to my poor understanding doth infallibly prove That the fixed Stars at the least are inherent and fastened in the matter of Heaven for that otherwise the Substance of this Circle could not now be found equally moved from the Aequinoctial Points with the Stars that were then in and about the same I might yet confirm this further by that Sympathy which is found betwixt the Points of Heaven in the time of Conception and Nativities and betwixt the figure of the Fathers Nativity and the Sons but for brevity sake I remit him that will be better informed to Kepler And now to confirm these Reasons by Experience I know not what better course to take then to appeal to their Testimony who have travelled into America in whose stories we read That the same parts of Heaven both to them and us retain the same qualities For thus Johannes Lerius in the History of his Navigation into Brasile affirmeth That their Ship passed the Aequinoctial the day before the Nones of February which was about the fourth of that moneth at what time nevertheless the Sun being in Aquarius he complaineth of great Tempests extream and corrupt rain with inconstant and tempestuous storms of winde And no less if not more notable is that which I find in Josephus Acosta whose words for the Readers better satisfaction as they lie in the English Translation I will set down as followeth Truly saith Acosta it is an admirable thing and worthy of observation That the Air is most clear and without rain under the burning Zone when as the Sun is furthest off and contrariwise there is most Rain Snow and Mists when as the Sun is nearest Such as have not travelled in this new World will haply think this incredible and it will seem strange unto such as have been there if they have not well observed it But the one and the other will willingly yield in noting the certain experience of that which hath been said of this part of Peru which looks to the Southern or Antartick Pole the Sun is then furthest off when it is nearest unto Europe that is May June July and August when he makes his Course in the Tropick of Cancer During which moneths the Air at Peru is very calm and clear neither doth there fall any Snow or Rain all their Rivers fall much and some are