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A68537 Herod and Pilate reconciled: or The concord of papist and puritan (against Scripture, fathers, councels, and other orthodoxall writers) for the coercion, deposition, and killing of kings. Discouered by David Owen Batchelour of Diuinitie, and chaplaine to the right Honourable Lord Vicount Hadington Owen, David, d. 1623. 1610 (1610) STC 18983.5; ESTC S113808 40,852 73

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