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A79837 A full discovery and confutation of the wicked and damnable doctrines of the Quakers. As also, a plain vindication and confirmation of sundry fundamental points of the Christian religion, denyed or corrupted by the enemies of the truth in these times. Published for the benefit of such weak Christians, who are not so able to discover and oppugne the dangerous doctrines of subtil seducers when coloured over with fair words and pretences, and so are more apt to be taken in their snares. Whereunto is annexed an excellent discourse proving that singing of Psalmes is not only lawful, but an ordinance of God. / By Jonathan Clapham, a servant of Christ in the work and labour of the Gospel at Wramplingham in Norff. Clapham, Jonathan. 1656 (1656) Wing C4407; Thomason E498_7; ESTC R206047 81,821 100

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as Christ himselfe used John 17. not praying to God through Christ but as if Christ personally inhabiting in them did himself speak to his Father and not such sinful worms as they are also they never speak in the plural number as if the people should joyn with them but ever in the singular I pray thee I thank thee and so though they should acquit themselves of this charge yet they leave all their followers under it as being such Heathens as know not God nor call upon his Name and so liable to that curse Jer. 10 25. Water-baptisme and the Lords Supper are other standing Ordinances instituted by our Lord Jesus Christ Mat. 28.19 John 4.1 Acts 8.36 1 Cor. 11.23 c. and these are to continue to the end of the world till all Nations be brought into subjection to Christ and then must the end come til Christ come again not in Spirit for so he was already to those to whom these things were spoken but in person as the Son of man in his glory c. But these pretious Ordinances are utterly cast off by the Quakers as their practise evidences it and their books speak it plainly see the paper against the baptized people p. 1 2 3 4 5. they own no baptism with water but that of the Spirit alone no Lords Supper but feeding on Christs flesh and blood by faith when in the mean time they also deny Christ to have a real body of flesh and blood though glorified Singing of Psalmes is another Ordinance of God Mat. 26.30 Col. 2.16 Jam. 5.13 But this is denied utterly by them they have written two pamphlets formerly against my self for vindicating this Ordinance Let the Reader know if they publish a hundred of such like answers to this Treatise as those two against my vindication of singing I shall not trouble my self to write one line in reply to them as judging it altogether needless Church-communion is another Ordinance of Christ when Christians walk together in the fellowship of the Gospel and in all the Ordinances of Jesus Christ as appears by the Apostle planting of Churches in every place where the Gospel was entertained and Christs owning of them by writing to them Rev. 1. and this Ordinance was to continue to the end of the world Rev. 22.16 1 Tim. 6.3 with 1 Tim. 3.15 but the Quakers deny there ever could true Church be found since the Apostles time to this time Burr against Grif. pag. 26. For the Lords-day it is known they are no friends to it they make all days alike many have professed against it and the known practises of their followers evidence they make no conscience thereof although in the fourth Commandment God requires the keeping holy of a seventh day or one day in seven and Christ saith Matth. 5. He that breaketh one of these least Commandments and teachteh men to do so shall be least in the Kingdome of heaven and it 's evident the Apostles and primitive Saints met together every first day of the week and they found the Lord was with them in so doing and in our own Nation God hath so blessed the faithful observation of this day to the encrease of piety and godlinesse that no Christian can deny it but now the devil cannot subvert this day by games and sports which he attempted formerly he tries if he can do it by denying it to be an institution of Christ As for Christian conference a duty so pleasing to God Mal. 3.16 it appeares they are little friends thereto by their sitting mute when they meet together I might instance in other appointments of God instructing their families in the fear of God teaching them the knowledge of Christ c. this though strictly enjoyned in the Scriptures Deut. 6.7 Eph. 6.4 Prov. 22.6 and commended by the godly examples of many precious Saints recorded in Scripture as Abraham Timothies mother c. yet hath been derided by some of them what can we teach them say they God must do all c. besides to this day there are some Masters who suffer their families to do any thing upon the Lords days either sleep at home or walk about the fields c taking no more care of their souls then if they were to die as beasts as indeed they hold as before was shewed thus do the Quakers appear evidently to be enemies to all the holy Ordinances of Christ But because it is a common plea in these apostatizing times that all outward Ordinances are abolished Christians are not bound to worship God in them now they were but for the first times of the Gospel c. I shall adde a little for the establishment of the weak that they may not by the craft of Seducers be brought to cast of the precious Ordinances of Jesus Christ It was before proved that these Ordinances were instituted by Jesus Christ the King of his Church as we shewed in each of them severally and that with expresse intimations of the continuance of them not only for that present age but for all following times to the end of the world who then dare to take upon him to abrogate the same The Laws and Ordinances of men are not abolished but by the same power that first enacted them now what one Word of God can these men bring for the repeal of any one Ordinance of the Gospel may not they on the like account make the great Commandments of beleeving repenting c. be temporary Commandments and not concerning Christians in these times and why should not the other nine Commandments be abolished as well as the fourth which requires a set stinted time for Gods solemn worship and service even every seventh day or as well as any other outward Ordinance commanded by Jesus Christ in the Word Certain we are there be the same grounds and reasons for continuance of these Ordinances of God now as were at first for the institution of them Is not God to be visibly worshipped and adored by us as well as formerly and if so it is more fit we should do it in the way of his appointments then in any way of our own invencieus have not we still need of Ordinances wherein to enjoy communion with God we have no such immediate converse with God now as to see him face to face but only as we behold him in the glasse of his Ordinances whilest we are present in the body we are absent from the Lord 2 Cor. 5.6 only while we are waiting on him in his Ordinances he promises to meet us and be with us spiritually and we finde many sweet visits and manifestations therein we have still need of the communications of his grace and the influences of his Spirit some needing conversion and illumination others confirmation and strengthning all further increasings of God that we may more and more grow up to perfection and are not the Ordinances given to us for these ends and not only till one come to perfection but till all
other men and not a man as he dwells in the flesh of other men appears because he is described to be a man coming of the seed of Abraham of the Tribe of Judah of the family of David born of a particular woman the Virgin Mary not of other women and in that the great doctrine concerning Christ to be beleeved which the Scriptures speaks of was that Jesus of Nazareth that particular man was the Christ That he had a humane or reasonable soul besides his God-head or divine nature See Esay 53.12 Matth. 26.38 John 12.27 And that after this man Christ was crucified he arose again with the same individual body that suffered on the crosse though made more glorious appears by the many witnesses that testified it Acts 2.24 and 3.15 1 Cor. 15.1 2 3 4 5. 2 Tim. 2.8 indeed it was the great work of the Apostles to testifie it Acts 1.22 nor could these witnesses be deceived for 1 There were many that did see him the eleven Apostles and five hundred brethren at once 2 They not only did see him but heard him speak and did eat with him nay felt his prints and marks and himself affirmed he had flesh and bones still 3 And he continued fourty dayes among them besides the Angels from heaven testified the same thing Luke 24.3 5 6. Mark 16.6 and the very souldiers that kept watch bare witnesse to it Mat. 28.11 Further that this same individual person did ascend into heaven even above the visible heavens and is there present making intercession for us at the right hand of God and shall come again to judge the quick and dead at the last day See these Scriptures Mark 16.19 Luke 24.51 Act. 1.9 10 11. Rom. 8.34 Heb. 9.24 Acts 3.21 Acts 17.31 But some Scriptures those people do wrest to make for their purpose which lest they deceive weak ones by them I shall vindicate them 1. They speak much of that Scripture 1 Col Christ in you the hope of glory and of all those Scriptures that speak of Christs being living or dwelling in his people thereby to insinuate there is no other man Christ but Christ in us men Answ I shall not speak now of the nature of Christs in-dwelling or in-being in his people till I come to the fourth Section where I shall have occasion to open it more distinctly onely thus much for the present Christs dwelling in his people now is by his Spirit and not according to his humane nature for this the heavens do containe till he descend visibly to judge the world as he was seen to ascend Acts 1.11 Acts 17.31 But it is by his spirit he dwells now in his people which is infinite and fills all places and so doth not his humane nature being a created thing and finite see this cleer from Rom. 8.10 11. in v. 10. the Apostle speaks of Christ being in you in v. 11. he explaines the expression by shewing the manner of it by his Spirit dwelling in you And indeed we must thus have Christ in us by his Spirit or else we can have no assured hope of glory though the meritorious cause of our salvation and glory is Christs obedience unto death performed in his own person Eph. 1.7 11 14 c. yet we can have no evidence of our right to glory but by finding Christs in-being in us by his Spirit now so that these Scriptures are utterly perverted to make for their ends Further that Scripture 2 Cor. 5.16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh yea though we have known Christ after the flesh yet now henceforth know we him no more is as grosly abused when it is made to speak against that particular man Christ Jesus now in heaven c. for 1 This doctrine concerning the man Christ Jesus his Resurrection c. the Apostle had before asserted in many places as we shewed even now 1 Cor. 15. the beginning Rom. 1.3 4. c. and he doth not now destroy what before he built it was the great thing the Apostles were to testifie and witnesse to the world Acts 1.22 they were to be witnesses of his Resurrection this Apostle doth in more then twenty places in his Epistles testifie how that the man Christ indeed was risen from the dead and ascended into heaven c. therefore he doth not contradict in this place what he lays down in so many other places 2 And therefore we must enquire after another interpretation of that Scripture and it will clearly appear to be this The false apostles had vilified the Apostles Ministry that they might draw away the hearts of people from him according to the practise of the Quakers in these dayes for this is an old trick of Satan and one plea they had against him was this he had not conversed with Christ upon earth as had the other Apostles and therfore he was not so much to be accounted off The Apostle hints we are not to look on Christ under such outward relations as if there were so much benefit by being related to Christ in the flesh or by being in his bodily presence but we are to consider him as having compleated the work of our redemption having overcome death being raised up in glory and ascended into heaven and thus we should know him for the future this is the spring of a Christians comfort thus he speaks not against Christs being in the flesh still which other Scriptures clearly witnesse but against looking upon him under these carnal relations they stood in to him whilest he was upon earth this will appear more fully to be the Apostles mind by considering the various acceptation of the word flesh in Scripture which to avoid tediousnesse I omit here intending to speak of it in Sect. 6. where in proving the resurrection of our dead bodies I shall further prove the truth of Christs resurrection and that still he is really and truly in our natures in heaven even in the same particular body he had upon earth though glorified and indeed if this were not so the Apostles were false witnesses our faith is in vaine we are yet in our sins and they who are fallen asleep in Christ are perished 1 Cor. 15.15 c. Thus for the clearing of this second charge That the Quakers deny Jesus Christ come in the flesh overthrow his Incarnation Death Resurrection Ascension Intercession and coming to Judgement and thereby pull down the maine pillars of Christianity and overthrow the faith and comfort of Christians and that while they pretend to be more spiritual but are indeed deceivers herein turning all into Allegories and faining these things done in the true Christ to be but as a shadow of what is now really done in them From this it is clear the Quakers-christ and Ours is not the same they hold no other man Christ but in their consciences we beleeve our Christ is in heaven and do wait for him to come from heaven who was raised up from the
be raised up again Answ Why should it seem a thing incredible to you that God should raise the dead Act. 26.8 Ye erre because ye know not the Scriptures nor the power of God Matth. 22. Do not you see as great things wrought before your eyes daily Doth not the corne that is sowne in the ground dye and rot and then spring up afterwards and yet Oh fooles will ye not believe 1 Cor. 15. have not many dead bodies been raised up formerly that we have mention of in Scripture to convince men what God can do Nay do not we know that men are able by their wisdome and power when several mettals are mixed together in one lump to sever them so as each shall be pure and unmixed by it self and nothing lose but the drosse And will you then say that the infinitely wise and powerful God cannot do that in our bodies that such poor worms can do in things below here Let such vain thoughts be laid aside and let faith believe though reason cannot comprehend it Then for the Doctrines of the last Judgment Heaven and Hell I need not insist so much upon the proof of them they will follow upon what is already said for granting the resurrection of the body it will more easily be yielded there shall be rewards and punishments to which men shall be adjudged in the world to come That every man shall receive according to what he hath done in his body whether it be good or evil 2 Cor. 15.10 This may appeare one great end why God shall raise them up again But something I shall say to strengthen the weak in these things also 1. Let the light in all men be but judge which these men so much speak of and it will witnesse against them that there is a future state of happinesse or misery an heaven or an hell to which men shall be adjudged after this life is ended according as their works have been here and that judgement heaven and hell are not only in this life There is no Nation in the world however barbarous but have believed it this the light in them hath taught them The Heathen Poets have spoken of their Elisian fields and of the infernal rivers of hell Cicero the Heathen Orator and Lucretius have made mention of the conflagration of the world and the future judgment the Turks speak of Paradise c these they have some dark and groping knowledge of from the light in them though no clear distinct knowledg The poor Indians that go naked as these Quakers sometimes have done in their delusions they have the notion of these things nor are there only meer notions in these Heathens of these things but they have many terrours and feares of conscience about them especially when they have been near unto death this hath been so firmly rooted in them that nothing could weare it out men that have lived like Atheists have been overtaken with these feares sometimes Besides they have an obscure knowledge of a God and that this God is a righteous God and will judge the world in righteousnesse and observing it is not well alway here with them that do well nor doth evill befall the wicked more then others they hence collect there will be a more equal dispensation of rewards and punishments in the world to come Adde further they have knowledge of the souls immortality for they see it doth not depend upon the body now for its acts and operations but can comprehend things that never came within the outward sences can know and understand the nature and causes of things can attaine some knowledge of God and spirits can enter heaven with contemplation while the body lies groveling here upon earth c. and therefore they conclude it doth not depend on the body for its being but is immortall and being immortal there is an estate of eternal happinesse or misery for it How little then do these men look to the light within them while they deny these manifest truths how false are they to their own principles if the light that is in them be darkness how great is that darkness II. But let us appeal to the light of the Scriptures and there we have more clear and distinct discovery of these things then this generall light in all hath yet ever made For the last judgement read Mat. 25. where we have the processe thereof set down at large by Christ the time when it must be is shewed ver 31. When the Sonne of man shall come in his glory and all the Holy Angels with him not when Christ comes in Spirit to his people but when he comes as the Son of man in a glorious condition his Angels attending him and the persons then to be judged are all Nations ver 32. and not only a few persons shall be judged as these poor wretches affirming this judgement to be now present take on them to judge here and there a person for the living and dead both must be judged then 2 Tim. 4.1 and Angels as well as men Jude 6. The manner of the judgment is described in the following part of the Chapter Acts 17.31 God hath appointed a day wherein he will judge the world by that Man whom he hath appointed whereof be hath given assurance by raising him up from the dead that Man-Christ that particular Man that was raised up from the dead is to be Judge not these men that pretend to judge now See also for this Act. 10.42 2 Tim. 4.1 And if you would know when this appointed day is to be the Apostle expresses it Heb. 9.27 It is appointed for men once to dy but after this the judgement after death followes the resurrection and judgment it is to be at the second appearance of Christ the Son of man in the cloudes of Heaven 2 Tim. 4.1 1 Thess 4.16 2 Thess 1.7 8. for this last and great judgement see further Jude 14 15. Rev. 20.12 with many other places And for Heaven and Hell after this life is ended that necessarily followes upon the proof of the last judgment these being the places of reward and punishment to which men shall be adjudged at that great day of the Lord So that it s not requisite to multiply places for these Only let the Reader for to confirme his faith peruse at his leasure these Scriptures Mat. 25.34 56. Luke 16.22 2 Cor. 5.1 5 8. 2 Thess 1.7 Heb. 10.34 1 Pet. 1.3 4. Isa 30.33 Psal 9.17 Matth. 10.28 Mat. 25.41 Luke 16.26 Rev. 20.15 From which places its evident that Heaven is a place of perfect blisse and happinesse not upon earth but above the visible Heavens not to be enjoyed whil'st we be in the flesh here though we have some foretasts or earnests of it in which respect it may be said the Kingdome of Heaven is now within us but into which the souls of the righteous shall be translated presently after their departure out of the body and which their bodies