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A66449 The hirelings ministry none of Christs, or, A discourse touching the propagating the Gospel of Christ Jesus humbly presented to such pious and honourable hands whom the present debate thereof concerns by Roger Williams. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683. 1652 (1652) Wing W2765; ESTC R27074 29,728 46

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our selves our Fore-fathers as to the pretended Seed-plots and Seminaries for the Ministry the Vniversities of Europe and the Vniversities of this Nation for alalthough I heartily acknowledge that among all the outward Gifts of God humane learning and the knowledge of Languages and good Arts are excellent and excell other outward gifts as far as light excels darknesse and therefore that Schools of humane Learning ought to be maintained in a due way and cherished yet notwithstanding In ordine ad ministerium as to the ministry of Christ Iesus any one of those ministeries Ephes. 4. 1 Cor. 12. upon a due survey of their Institutions and continuall practises compared with the last will and Testament of Christ Jesus they will be found to be none of Christs and that in many respects First as to the name Schollar although as to humane learning many wayes lawfull yet as it is appropriated to such as practise the Ministry have been at the Vniversities as they say It is a sacrilegious and theevish title robbing all believers and Saints who are frequently in the Testament of Christ stiled Disciples or Schollars of Christ Jesus and only they as Beleevers and this Title is so much theirs that both men and women beleeving were called Schollars Act. 9. There was a certaine Disciple or Schollar called Dorkas Secondly As to their Monkish and idle course of life partly so gentile and stately partly so vain superstious that to wet a finger in any pains or labor it is a disgraceful and an unworthy Act But the Church is built upon the Foundation of the Apostles Prophets who were Labourers Fishermen Tent-makers Iesus Christ although the Prince of Life yet a poor carpenter the chief corner stone And I cannot but conceive that although it should not please the most holy and jealous God to stir up this renowned State and their renowned Cromwell the 2d to deale with our refined Monasteries as that blessed Cromwell the first did with the more grosse and Palpably superstitious in Henry the Eighth his days Yet in his time the Lord Iesus whose is all power in Heaven and Earth will spue out these Seminaries of Hirelings and misticall Merchants out of his mouth as he hath done their Fathers the superstitious and bloudy Bishops before them Thirdly As to their Popish and vaunting Titles so strange from the New Testament and language of Christ Iesus or any word of title that came forth of his blessed mouth Bachellors of Divinity or Godlinesse Doctor of Divinity so clearly and expresly opposite to the command of the Lord Iesus Call no man Father Doctor c. that is by way of Eminency in spirituall and heavenly regards Rabbi Rabbi Doctor Doctor c. I omit because possibly for shame left off in these dayes their childish ceremonies used even by the most holy and consciencious in their superstitious commencings and creatings c. Their holy Gownes black and red holy cassocks holy caps holy scarfs holy Rings yea and holy bootes also c. All as far from the purity and simplicity of the Son of God as far as the honest-Attire of some sober and chast Matron from the wanton and flaunting vanities of some Painted Harlot Fourthly As to their pretended Spirituall and holy exercises proper onely to the Churches and Assemblies of the Saints the onely Schools of the Prophets appointed by Christ Iesus How have they been by Courts imposed upon every naturall and unspirituall man who in Truth perceives not the things that be of God How have they been prostituted to every prophane and unclean lyp unto whom saith God Psa. 50 What hast thou to doe to preach my word and to take my name into thy mouth Fifthly As to their being prepared and fitted by these means as in a way of Prentiship to set up the Trade and way of Preaching the science or faculty of Spirituall merchandize Revel. 18. in a deep Mistery of all sorts of spices and precious things the precious sweet Truths and Promises of holy Scripture yea which we may with holy trembling add a trade of selling God himselfe Christ Iesus the Holy Spirit Heaven and Hel and too too often their own Souls and the Souls of thousands But have there not come excellent men from thence famous for Learning Holinesse Labours Successe in the Souls of thousands c I say There have been excellent men some say Popes and Cardinals and we are sure Lord Bishops and Monks in their personall Holinesse gifts Learning Labours Successe and therein famous Prophets and Witnesses of Christ Iesus yea they have sealed the holy Truths of God which they have learned from the holy Scriptures and which they have declared to others I say they have sealed them with their heart blood but that 's no justification of their evill standings Institutions Administrations c. which as by degrees it hath pleased the Father of Lights to discover unto them they have come out of such Bondage with shame and sorrow and laboured after the purity and simplicity of the Son of God But extraordinary gifts be ceased how shall now the people of this Nation be supplyed with Ministers but from such Seminaries of Learning which fit men both with Learning to know and Eloquence to utter the heavenly Mysteries Or would you have the people be of no Religion at all meer Atheists without God without his Word without a Ministry c I answer 'T is true those glorious first ministeriall gifts are ceased and that 's or should be the lamentation of all Saints to wit the desolation and widow-hood of Zion yet I humbly conceive that without those gifts it is no ground of imitation and of going forth to Teach and Baptise the Nations for the Apostles themselves did not attempt that mighty enterprise but waited at Ierusalem untill the Holy Spirit descended on them and inabled them for that mighty work least of all is that a ground of counterfeiting and of suborning a livelesse picture of that first Ministry like Ieroboams Institutions when every one that hath Friends may be preferred to Fellowships in Colledges to the superstitious Degrees and Titles of Divinity as they call it and by these staires ascend up the Gospel preferments of rich and honourable Benefices Yet Secondly Far be it from me to derogate from that honourable civility of training up of Youth in Languages and other humane Learning whether in the City of LONDON or other Townes and Cities c. All that I bear witnesse against is the counterfeiting and sacrilegious arrogating of the titles and rights of Gods Saints and Churches as before which are the only Schools of the Prophets As also against their sacrilegious and superstitious Degrees as they call them in the profession of Divinity as if they only knew Divinity Godlinesse Holinesse and by such skill in godlinesse and by such Degrees might succeed the ancient