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A92033 Lux veritatis or, Christian judicial astrology vindicated, and demonology confuted: in answer to Nath. Homes, D.D. Wherein his allegations of the learned, reasons, divine proofs, and arguments, are particularly examined and convinced. With the legality of the art maintained and warranted by Scripture. Whereunto is annexed, a short discourse of that great eclipse of the sun, March 29. 1652. By William Ramesey Gent. student in astrologie and physick. Ramesey, William, 1627-1675 or 6. 1651 (1651) Wing R209; Thomason E1341_1; Thomason E1351_3; Thomason E1341_1*; Thomason E1351_4; ESTC R209141 67,612 156

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If they follow their own opinions and conceits without sound reason and warrant I see no warrant or reason why I should regard either them their words or their quoters SECT I. Wherein is further shewn the legality of Astrologie HIs first learned man then he begins with is Tostatus who he saith in his Commentary on Levit 19. Quest 28 29 c. hath these words the which Doctor Willet gives him viz. Of things which are as to us accidental as the successe of businesse or their causes internal as mens will and free choice as to undertake a journey or to build or not build predictions are not onely uncertain but superstitious and the same is to be said of casting of Nativities by the conjunction of the Planets but if he had considered what reason or ground Tostatus hath for these words he had never thus laid them open and I much wonder he being a Divine he had not first himself considered and weighed the text which that he may now do Nunquam sera est ad bonos more 's via I will here set it down Regard not them that have familiar spirits neither seeke after Wizards to be defiled by them I am the Lord your God Levit. 19.31 where we clearly see there is no part of the text once in the least mentioneth or meaneth Astrologie it is against the seeking after those that have familiar Spirits and Wizards Looke what Astrologie is pag. 2. now that Astrologie doth not in the least savour hereof is clear in what hath been already said and the definition thereof see Ptolomies own words at the beginning of my discourse in the second page So that except the rest of his learned men as he calleth them can bring better proof or reason then this first he had better have been silent then thus to be overshot SECT II. Wherein is shewn that the Stars are signes and Causes HE then brings Doctor Willet to cast his squib also at this strong Tower viz. Astrologie in these words all manner of conjecturing which saith he is meant by Astrologie is not unlawful whereof any Natural or Divine cause can be yielded as first there be Natural signs in the heavens and ayre as of the alteration of weather of winds of raine c. This doth no whit hurt it and is onely a flash that at the most doth but whiz about it and at the last after a great crack vanisheth in smoke mark but the words all manner of conjecturing is not unlawful c. and saith Mr Homes see he calleth it meaning Astrologie but conjecturing onely but doth Mr Homes conjecture it to be no other if he do it is his ignorance I hope the reader sees by this time what Astrologie is and begins to be as much in love with it againe as ever before by him discouraged as also out of love with his cavils but this is not all when you see him stript of his Scripture proofs you will tell me something then when you see him as naked left as my naile of all his sophistications you will tell me then you are worse in love with him I 'm confident when his ugly malice is discovered against this most apparent truth But let me not forget my self and spend too much time about him but return to the discourse in hand which is that since there hath been already shewn that the Stars have the applause of power on the natural things of this world as also the great Ptolomie whose word in this case I believe wil be taken before Doctor Willets or Mr. Homes his gives his word for it Astrologie no way unlawfull besides experience also as above shewed and you know experientia docet there is no more to be said but that Astrologie is not as Doctor Willet sayeth unlawful neither doth he in any wise condemne it for in his following words he tels us There are natural signes in the heavens and aire which cause raine winde c. The cause of which is no other then the influence of the Stars which if he deny all Writers on this Art are contradicted as also the Scripture to boot if then this be not a strong Argument let himself judge But to clear this point more fully what sayeth Mr. Homes Nota. As anon shall appeare is the cause of Raine alteration of Aire and the like if his Master Doctor Willet did not in these words shew it me thinks he should not have left the Reader unsatisfied and not onely so but have proved the Stars to have no Influence thereon nor to be causes of these alterations and then his argument had been good but certainly he that wil carpe at such trivial words as these would not have omitted that could he but sufficiently have proved it which since he could not or did not he must give me leave to prove they are The Stars signes and causes And first let me give you Moses judgement herein who plainly tells us The Stars are for signes and seasons Gen. 1.14 which Mr. Homes will say is fullfilled in the words following viz. And God made two great lights the one to rule the Day and the other to rule the Night Gen. 1.16 To which then I answer by way of Quere to what end then are these invincible irresistable and innumerable hostes of Heaven were they made for no other use then to gaze on the ☉ and ☽ will sufficiently serve our turne for matter of light if we looke no further into their uses but the Scripture further putteth this matter quite out of doubt if we will beleeve Gods own word Joh 28.31 For he speaking of his Omnipotent power asketh his servant Job whether he or any one else Can restraine the influence of the Pleiades or loose the bands of Orion Saint Austine on Job On which words St. Austine referreth all men to the study of Astrologie for the understanding of that place and not onely so but shews us that under these two constellations the Lord doth comprehend the influence of all the Celestial host figuratively expressing pars pro toto and to shew you by experience the verity hereof if you wil neither beleeve Augustine Moses nor God himself except you see and feele not to insist long on this point which is cleared by such strong and invincible witnesses one whereof is able to be sufficient testimony against all Mr. Homes his learned Judges and condemners of Astrologie For confirming and clearing hereof then I might here again instance that palpable experience we have of the ebbing and flowing of the Sea by the influence of the ☽ as abovesaid but to manifest it yet further let him call to mind the increase and decrease of shel-fish the mutation and variation of times and innumerable other effects of the Stars which if time and conveniency would permit might be recorded and let him then study the cause hereof and he will then without doubt be of an other tenent let him observe also