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A62871 A publick dispute betwixt John Tombs ... respondent, John Cragge, and Henry Vaughan ... opponents, touching infant-baptism, the fifth of September, 1653 ... occasioned by a sermon preached the day before, by Mr. Tombs, upon St. Mark 16.16 ... : also a sermon preached by Mr. Cragge, the next Lords day following, upon the same text, wherein the necessity of dipping is refuted, and infant-baptism asserted. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676.; Cragge, John, Gent.; Vaughan, Henry, Sir, 1587?-1659? 1654 (1654) Wing T1813; ESTC R9749 45,440 168

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they that are sent in a Gospel way our adversary in the common cause spoke so home to this that we need not press it further The last thing is the extent of the Commission and that a very large one unto every Creature as here to all Nations as Matthew Now the Quaere will be what is meant by every Creature Some limit it to every rational creature Angels men Devils as Origen his misericordes Doctores who held the Devils and reprobates should be saved but that cannot be for 2. Pet. 2.4 They are cast down to hell and reserved to judgement Some more strictly restrain it only to man and that when he is come to age and understanding excluding Children this is too strict True it is Infants are not capable to be taught of men but they may be taught of God they cannot actually understand the Gospel but they may actually receive the benefit of the Gospel a noble mans Child hath interest in his Fathers Patent and pardon a sucking Infant though he knows it not may be joined in a lease with the Parents Some extend it and it is conceived more fitly according to the Letter without any Synecdoche or figure to every creature as if he should say Go and proclame the benefit that comes by Christ to every Creature for as by the first Adam all creatures were accursed so by Christ the second Adam all creatures shall be blessed Rom. 8.22 {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} every creature groans desiring to be delivered into the glorious liberty of the Sons of God answerable to this Preach the Gospel {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} to every creature telling them that they are now by Christ to be delivered into the glorious liberty of the Sons of God Object But the creature cannot hear nor understand Answ. It s true not properly no more could John Baptist in his Mothers Womb and yet {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the Babe sprang for joy Nay the Holy Ghost ascribes a hearing to the creature Hosea 2.21 And it shall come to pass in that day saith the Lord I will hear the Heavens and they shall hear the Earth and the Earth shall hear the Corn and the Wine and the Oyl and they shall hear Jezreel Hence observe that every creature in a sense is sensible of the benefit they have by Christ but every one in their kind men come to years and discretion are capable of actual understanding actual profession actual faith Infants only in actu primo are capable of the first seeds of understanding of profession of Faith which will shew it self in the fruits when they come to years The rest of our fellow creatures as by a natural instinct they groan for the curse so by an other instinct they lift up their heads in expectation of the blessing and that {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} with an earnest expectation or a stretched out neck as the word in the original signifies Rom. 819. Thus we have paraphrased upon the first verse for introduction to the second wherein is First a Consolatory promise he that beleeveth and is Baptized shall be saved Secondly a Comminatorie Curse he that beleeveth not shall be damned In the former we have first the qualification and that either absolute he that beleeveth or conditional and is Baptized Q. Now the Quaere will be what belief is here meant Sol. First the event tells us that belief that saves us he that believes shall be saved Secondly the opposition its contrary to that unbelief that damns Observe that a saving Faith is necessary to salvation without Faith it is impossible to please God all they and only they that have a saving Faith shall be saved so that you see that Faith is a necessary and absolute condition And is Baptized that is upon supposition if Baptism conveniently may be had hence observe that Baptism is not absolutely necessary by necessity of means as they call it as if none could be saved without it but by necessity of Precept if conveniently it may be had The Israelites for forty years in the Wilderness were not Circumcised Bernard that saw not all things could see this that non absentia sed contemplus Sacramenti damnat not the want but the contempt of the Sacrament damns Valentinian the Emperour dyed as he was going to be Baptized in Jordan and Ambrose being asked what he thought of him answered that he was Baptizatus volo voluntate etiamsi non reverà aquae lavacro Baptized inwardly with wish and will though not outwardly with the laver of water Austin is conceived here to be mistaken who denyed salvation to Infants Un-Baptized hence he is called durus Pater Infantum a hard Father of Infants and many of the Doctors of the Church of Rome who hold that Infants that dye Un-Baptized are kept in limbo Infantum in a Purgatory of Infants where they shall never behold the beatifical vision Object But here is first placed beleeving and then Baptized so that from the order of placing the words some would gather that we are first to beleeve before we be Baptized Answ. That will not follow for Mark 1.4 There is placed first Baptizing and then Preaching and repentance after whence they might as well gather that we must be Baptized before we can hear the word Preached or repent Repentance in Scripture is oft placed before Faith and yet is a fruit and effect of Faith some of the Evangelists place Judas his receiving of the sop before the Sacrament some after it it is a rule in interpreting of holy Writ that Scriptura nescit prius posterius the Scripture does not alwaies observe the precise order in which things were done Q. But I beseech you consider what Faith it is that is here meant Sol. A saving Faith Must then a saving Faith be the rule of our Baptism and must we Baptize none but of those we know have a saving Faith then we must Baptize none at all never any Minister upon that ground had ever Commission to Baptize any no not the Apostles for they did not infallibly know that those they Baptized had a saving Faith nay they actually Baptized many that were hypocrites as Simon Magus Alexander Hymeneus Philetus and others hence observe That no rule for Baptizing in general can be gathered out of this Text And to say that none are to be Baptized but they that have a saving Faith which is the Faith that is only here meant or none but they which make an outward profession of Faith which is not here meant is an untruth not gatherable from this Scripture and an adding to the word of God against which he hath proclamed a solemn curse The Commination or curse follows in the last words He that beleeveth not shall be damned he does not say he that is not Baptized shall be damned For though the contempt of it is dangerous yet a man may be saved