Selected quad for the lemma: heaven_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
heaven_n church_n kingdom_n visible_a 4,215 5 9.6422 5 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A66932 A little stone, pretended to be out of the mountain, tried, and found to be a counterfeit, or, An examination & refutation of Mr. Lockyers lecture, preached at Edinburgh, anno 1651, concerning the mater of the visible church and afterwards printed with an appendix for popular government of single congregations : together with an examination, in two appendices, of what is said on these same purposes in a letter of some in Aberdene, who lately have departed from the communion and government of this church / by James Wood ... Wood, James, 1608-1664. 1654 (1654) Wing W3399; ESTC R206983 330,782 402

There are 10 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

the_o duty_n of_o his_o servant_n to_o cast_v out_o all_o such_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o they_o do_v see_v not_o to_o be_v qualify_v not_o gracious_a convert_n which_o be_v flat_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o be_v suppose_v in_o the_o antecedent_n now_o i_o assume_v that_o the_o antecedent_n be_v clear_o hold_v forth_o to_o we_o in_o these_o place_n 1._o it_o be_v clear_a that_o in_o these_o place_n he_o hold_v forth_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o its_o outward_a constitution_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n thereof_o to_o be_v a_o mix_a society_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a true_o gracious_a and_o such_o as_o be_v void_a of_o true_a grace_n and_o not_o only_o this_o but_o 2._o that_o not_o only_o he_o permit_v it_o to_o be_v so_o until_o the_o last_o day_n but_o also_o it_o be_v his_o will_n and_o he_o command_v his_o servant_n to_o permit_v such_o to_o abide_v in_o the_o church_n as_o even_o to_o their_o discern_a be_v bad_a leave_v the_o separation_n of_o they_o to_o himself_o at_o the_o last_o the_o servant_n say_v unto_o he_o will_v thou_o then_o that_o we_o go_v and_o gather_v they_o up_o yes_o will_v mr._n locky_a say_v leave_v not_o one_o of_o they_o no_o not_o one_o of_o they_o in_o a_o visible_a church_n they_o be_v where_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v they_o want_v the_o complexion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n etc._n etc._n but_o say_v the_o lord_n himself_o nay_o but_o let_v both_o grow_v together_o until_o the_o harvest_n section_n 33_o object_n if_o it_o shall_v be_v object_v against_o this_o exposition_n and_o application_n of_o this_o place_n that_o hereby_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o any_o profane_a one_o aught_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o in_o consequence_n be_v contrary_a to_o christ_n institution_n of_o ecclesiastic_a discipline_n enjoin_v incorrigible_a offender_n to_o be_v casten_z out_o and_o excommunicate_v and_o that_o therefore_o by_o these_o tare_n must_v be_v understand_v latent_fw-la hypocrite_n which_o may_v be_v such_o in_o appearance_n as_o may_v charitable_o be_v judge_v by_o man_n true_a believer_n answ_n it_o can_v be_v that_o such_o latent_fw-la hypocrite_n as_o these_o only_o be_v understand_v why_o they_o be_v such_o tare_n as_o be_v see_v and_o know_v by_o the_o servant_n they_o must_v therefore_o be_v such_o as_o fall_v into_o sin_n and_o who_o badness_n be_v obvious_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o other_o yet_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n between_o this_o of_o mat._n 13._o 29._o so_o understand_v and_o that_o of_o mat._n 18._o vers_fw-la 17._o we_o may_v say_v as_o augustine_n on_o the_o same_o place_n against_o donatist_n domino_fw-la in_o euangelio_fw-la dicenti_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la obtemperare_fw-la debemus_fw-la ubi_fw-la ait_fw-la si_fw-la neque_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la audierit_fw-la sit_fw-la tibi_fw-la tanquam_fw-la ethnicus_fw-la &_o publicanus_fw-la &_o in_o illo_fw-la ubi_fw-la prohibuit_fw-la colligi_fw-la zizania_fw-la ne_fw-la simul_fw-la eradicetur_fw-la &_o triticum_fw-la potest_fw-la enim_fw-la utrumque_fw-la custodiri_fw-la the_o reason_n be_v because_o they_o may_v well_o be_v conceive_v to_o speak_v not_o adidem_fw-la in_o respect_n to_o these_o same_o sort_n of_o person_n the_o command_n of_o excommunication_n be_v against_o such_o notorious_a offender_n as_o to_o their_o offence_n add_v contumacy_n against_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n or_o at_o least_o if_o it_o be_v further_a to_o be_v extend_v who_o offence_n be_v atrocious_a &_o these_o that_o offend_v these_o way_n whether_o they_o be_v tare_n graceless_a man_n or_o endue_v with_o true_a save_a grace_n but_o there_o may_v be_v sinful_a liver_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n see_v to_o be_v such_o by_o the_o servant_n who_o fall_v not_o under_o either_o of_o these_o two_o sort_n section_n 34_o the_o doctrinal_a note_n which_o the_o reverend_a mr._n dickson_n have_v upon_o that_o parable_n mat._n 13._o 24._o etc._n etc._n be_v worthy_a the_o read_n and_o consideration_n to_o this_o purpose_n we_o be_v on_o and_o they_o be_v genuine_a and_o natural_o flow_v from_o the_o place_n the_o book_n be_v common_a so_o that_o i_o need_v not_o transcribe_v all_o i_o shall_v but_o bring_v two_o or_o three_o of_o they_o for_o such_o as_o may_v be_v have_v not_o the_o book_n at_o hand_n 1._o the_o external_a visible_a church_n be_v worthy_a to_o be_v call_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n even_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o external_a constitution_n of_o it_o in_o the_o world_n notwithstanding_o the_o wicked_a hypocrite_n in_o it_o because_o therein_o christ_n rule_v as_o king_n and_o have_v his_o subject_n all_o profess_v he_o to_o be_v king_n of_o saint_n 4._o it_o be_v matter_n of_o grief_n and_o offence_n to_o see_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n so_o many_o unprofitable_a weed_n 5._o the_o rash_a zeal_n of_o servant_n before_o they_o consult_v their_o lord_n and_o master_n be_v ready_a with_o the_o hazard_n of_o the_o church_n and_o true_a member_n thereof_o to_o have_v such_o a_o constitution_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o they_o shall_v suffer_v none_o to_o be_v a_o member_n who_o be_v not_o inward_o regenerate_v but_o have_v all_o other_o of_o who_o inward_a regeneration_n they_o be_v not_o assure_v pluck_v from_o among_o professor_n 6._o the_o lord_n although_o he_o have_v give_v order_n to_o censure_v scandalous_a offender_n yet_o he_o discharge_v his_o servant_n to_o press_v towards_o such_o a_o separation_n as_o to_o have_v all_o weed_n and_o wicked_a in_o heart_n to_o be_v cast_v out_o lest_o while_o they_o gather_v out_o the_o graceless_a tare_n they_o shall_v root_v out_o also_o the_o gracious_a wheat_n with_o they_o for_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a for_o any_o man_n to_o discern_v the_o renew_v from_o the_o unrenew_v so_o clear_o but_o he_o may_v be_v mistake_v 8._o the_o mixture_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n christ_n the_o lord_n be_v mind_v to_o permit_v and_o command_v to_o be_v permit_v till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o then_o but_o not_o till_o then_o shall_v a_o full_a separation_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o the_o wicked_a of_o the_o elect_a and_o reprobat_fw-la be_v make_v in_o the_o time_n of_o harvest_n i_o will_v say_v gather_v the_o wheat_n etc._n etc._n see_v also_o his_o note_n on_o the_o ver_fw-la 47._o this_o parable_n teach_v we_o that_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o way_n of_o gather_v member_n and_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o constitution_n thereof_o it_o be_v like_o a_o draw-net_n take_v in_o all_o who_o profess_v subjection_n to_o christ_n and_o his_o ordinance_n good_a and_o bad_a true_a and_o false_a professor_n for_o it_o gather_v of_o every_o kind_n to_o wit_n whosoever_o profess_v faith_n in_o and_o promise_v subjection_n to_o christ_n section_n 35_o argument_n 8._o the_o doctrine_n which_o exclude_v the_o infant_n of_o christian_n from_o be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n can_v be_v from_o christ_n nor_o have_v any_o truth_n in_o it_o but_o mr._n lockiers_n doctrine_n concern_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n exclude_v the_o infant_n of_o christian_n from_o be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n go_v etc._n etc._n for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o proposition_n i_o refer_v mr._n locky_a to_o mr._n baxter_n dispute_v against_o tomb_n if_o he_o deny_v that_o infant_n of_o christian_n be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n let_v he_o take_v some_o pain_n to_o answer_v these_o many_o solid_a and_o acute_a argument_n bring_v by_o that_o learned_a man_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v the_o assumption_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o mr._n lockiers_n doctrine_n be_v that_o none_o other_o no_o not_o one_o other_o be_v fit_a matter_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n but_o such_o as_o be_v true_o convert_v so_o far_o as_o man_n true_o convert_v and_o very_o spiritual_a be_v able_a to_o discern_v and_o judge_v this_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o can_v be_v speak_v or_o understand_v of_o infant_n and_o it_o be_v remarkable_a that_o mr._n locky_a nor_o here_o when_o he_o propound_v his_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n nor_o else_o where_o in_o prosecute_a it_o in_o this_o lecture_n do_v so_o much_o as_o once_o with_o these_o who_o he_o allow_v to_o be_v matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n take_v in_o their_o infant_n as_o some_o other_o of_o his_o mind_n be_v wont_v sometime_o to_o do_v and_o therefore_o that_o which_o mr._n caudrie_n say_v consider_v mr._n hooker_n conclusion_n concern_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o have_v he_o not_o add_v a_o little_a after_o comprehend_v the_o infant_n of_o confederate_a believer_n under_o their_o parent_n covenant_n he_o may_v have_v be_v suspect_v etc._n etc._n mr._n locky_a have_v altogether_o leave_v this_o out_o i_o may_v say_v it_o of_o he_o positive_o he_o be_v just_o to_o be_v suspect_v of_o concur_v with_o
of_o government_n but_o particular_a congregation_n where_o they_o can_v convenient_o associate_v together_o they_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o rule_n and_o warrant_v of_o god_n word_n to_o associate_v under_o common_a presbytery_n classical_a and_o synodical_a and_o in_o this_o case_n that_o a_o particular_a congregation_n ought_v not_o nor_o may_v by_o warrant_n of_o god_n word_n exercise_v these_o act_n of_o government_n of_o public_a and_o common_a concernment_n as_o ordination_n and_o deposition_n of_o minister_n excommunication_n of_o person_n by_o itself_o alone_o but_o these_o act_n ought_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o common_a presbytery_n classical_a or_o synodical_a and_o that_o a_o particular_a congregation_n ought_v not_o nor_o may_v not_o by_o warrant_n of_o god_n word_n perform_v any_o act_n in_o matter_n particular_o concern_v themselves_o so_o without_o the_o common_a presbytery_n of_o the_o association_n but_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v liberty_n of_o appeal_n to_o the_o common_a presbytery_n and_o that_o the_o common_a presbytery_n may_v juridical_o and_o authoritative_o cognosce_fw-la and_o judge_v upon_o their_o proceed_n and_o act_n in_o a_o word_n it_o may_v do_v thing_n of_o government_n particular_o belong_v to_o itself_o in_o and_o by_o itself_o but_o with_o subordination_n to_o the_o large_a and_o common_a presbytery_n these_o thing_n have_v be_v abundant_o prove_v by_o sundry_a learned_a man_n as_o mr_n gill●sp_n in_o his_o assert_v of_o the_o government_n etc._n etc._n mr._n rutherfurd_n gull_n apollon_n in_o his_o consideration_n of_o sundry_a controversy_n jus_fw-la divin_n the_o ass_n of_o divine_n come_v we_o to_o see_v what_o mr._n locky_a bring_v for_o the_o contrair_a section_n 3_o first_o it_o be_v grant_v by_o our_o brethren_n say_v he_o that_o such_o a_o church_n have_v this_o sufficiency_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o some_o ordinance_n as_o preach_v administration_n of_o sacrament_n without_o seek_v the_o consent_n or_o help_v of_o the_o class_n nor_o be_v the_o church_n to_o neglect_v these_o whence_o he_o conclude_v that_o it_o may_v also_o exercise_v the_o other_o ordination_n and_o excommunication_n and_o give_v for_o a_o proof_n of_o the_o consequence_n upon_o that_o grant_n if_o they_o may_v do_v the_o great_a sure_o they_o may_v do_v the_o lesser_a and_o there_o be_v no_o dispensation_n of_o so_o choice_n a_o excellency_n as_o preach_v as_o paul_n witness_v make_v it_o the_o chief_a part_n of_o his_o errand_n i_o be_v send_v to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n not_o to_o baptise_v answ_n 1._o it_o be_v true_a we_o grant_v that_o such_o a_o church_n i._n e._n a_o particular_a congregation_n have_v all_o its_o officer_n have_v sufficiency_n in_o it_o to_o exercise_v these_o ordinance_n of_o preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n i_o e._n the_o pastor_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n may_v preach_v the_o word_n and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n without_o special_a consent_n or_o help_v and_o concurrence_n of_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n to_o every_o act_n nor_o be_v he_o to_o neglect_v or_o cease_v from_o these_o if_o the_o classis_fw-la shall_v forbid_v i_o mean_v without_o just_a cause_n yet_o it_o may_v be_v and_o it_o be_v so_o indeed_o by_o the_o warrant_n of_o god_n word_n that_o the_o particular_a congregation_n can_v have_v in_o the_o ordinary_a way_n of_o the_o church_n in_o a_o settle_a and_o constitute_v state_n the_o pastor_n to_o exercise_v these_o ordinance_n but_o by_o the_o consent_n and_o potestative_a mission_n and_o ordination_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o some_o associate_n presbytery_n and_o though_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o particular_a congregation_n his_o exercise_v these_o ordinance_n be_v not_o dependent_a upon_o the_o actual_a concurrence_n in_o the_o several_a individual_a act_n yet_o therein_o he_o be_v subordinate_a to_o their_o ministerial_a authority_n to_o try_v and_o judge_v his_o preach_a according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o if_o they_o find_v just_a cause_n may_v forbid_v he_o to_o preach_v and_o they_o forbid_v he_o must_v obey_v but_o 2._o it_o be_v a_o gross_a nonsequitur_a a_o particular_a church_n or_o the_o pastor_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n have_v sufficiency_n or_o power_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o administer_v sacrament_n without_o the_o help_n or_o concurrence_n of_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n ergo_fw-la they_o may_v also_o exercise_v these_o other_o ordinance_n ordination_n and_o excommunication_n without_o their_o concurrence_n and_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o be_v invalide_v because_o that_o be_v great_a and_o if_o they_o may_v do_v the_o great_a alone_o by_o themselves_o they_o may_v also_o do_v the_o lesser_a for_o by_o that_o same_o reason_n it_o shall_v follow_v a_o pastor_n have_v sufficiency_n and_o power_n by_o himself_o alone_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o baptise_v without_o the_o help_n and_o concurrence_n of_o his_o fellow-elders_a in_o the_o congregation_n ergo_fw-la he_o may_v also_o by_o himself_o alone_o ordain_v and_o excommunicate_v without_o their_o help_n and_o concurrence_n why_o that_o be_v the_o great_a and_o if_o he_o may_v do_v the_o great_a alone_o he_o may_v also_o do_v the_o lesser_a the_o author_n himself_o will_v not_o i_o conceive_v admit_v the_o consequence_n here_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o interest_n of_o person_n to_o exercise_v this_o or_o that_o or_o the_o other_o ordinance_n be_v not_o to_o be_v attend_v or_o determine_v according_a to_o the_o great_a or_o lesser_a excellency_n of_o the_o work_n but_o according_a to_o christ_n commission_n institution_n and_o grant_v of_o power_n to_o they_o the_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n in_o some_o thing_n which_o be_v common_o call_v power_n of_o order_n as_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n administration_n of_o sacrament_n be_v give_v to_o christ_n minister_n several_o and_o a_o part_n consider_v as_o single_a pastor_n so_o a_o pastor_n may_v preach_v the_o word_n and_o administer_v sacrament_n alone_o without_o concurrence_n or_o special_a consent_n either_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o other_o ruler_n to_o every_o act_n but_o in_o other_o thing_n these_o of_o the_o power_n call_v the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n the_o exercise_n and_o power_n thereof_o be_v not_o give_v to_o one_o but_o to_o a_o unity_n to_o the_o community_n of_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n unite_v together_o not_o any_o single_a ruler_n several_o therefore_o though_o a_o pastor_n may_v preach_v and_o baptize_v alone_o yet_o he_o may_v not_o censure_v nor_o excommunicate_v alone_o and_o if_o he_o shall_v do_v this_o the_o act_n be_v invalide_v both_o in_o foro_fw-la dei_fw-la and_o in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la now_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o excommunication_n be_v give_v to_o a_o community_n the_o question_n be_v whether_o this_o community_n be_v a_o particular_a congregation_n have_v a_o entire_a particular_a eldership_n or_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n by_o itself_o and_o independent_a from_o a_o large_a presbytery_n this_o mr._n locky_a say_v but_o his_o argument_n ground_v upon_o our_o grant_n to_o prove_v it_o be_v impertinent_a as_o we_o have_v see_v section_n 4_o but_o further_a he_o will_v prove_v that_o a_o particular_a congregation_n have_v power_n to_o exercise_v all_o ordinance_n as_o well_o as_o any_o thus_o sect._n 41._o the_o key_n be_v not_o divide_v the_o key_n be_v all_o give_v to_o peter_n as_o personate_n the_o church_n of_o believer_n in_o the_o gospel_n that_o kingdom_n of_o which_o christ_n say_v he_o will_v build_v and_o i_o will_v give_v unto_o thou_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v on_o earth_n mat._n 16._o 19_o sure_o this_o particular_a here_o use_v be_v not_o in_o vain_a but_o to_o set_v forth_o that_o every_o gospel-church_n every_o particular_a congregation_n of_o believer_n unite_v as_o a_o visible_a organical_a body_n for_o god_n worship_n have_v ability_n a_o power_n give_v to_o it_o as_o to_o such_o a_o end_n he_o mean_v to_o exercise_v all_o the_o key_n alone_a and_o by_o themselves_o which_o he_o express_v thus_o they_o have_v not_o a_o lame_a commission_n part_n of_o the_o key_n at_o their_o girdle_n and_o stranger_n and_o foreigner_n carry_v another_o part_n answ_n 1._o as_o to_o that_o of_o divide_v the_o key_n we_o have_v say_v sufficient_a before_o 2._o as_o to_o that_o allege_a the_o key_n be_v all_o give_v to_o peter_n as_o personate_n the_o church_n of_o believer_n etc._n etc._n we_o have_v speak_v also_o before_o in_o the_o examination_n of_o his_o first_o proof_n of_o the_o first_o assertion_n now_o we_o add_v but_o these_o thing_n here_o 1._o i_o will_v ask_v mr._n locky_a what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n in_o the_o gospel_n whether_o the_o universal_a church_n visible_a of_o believer_n then_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v a_o church_n universal_a visible_a individual_o one_o for_o certain_o the_o article_n the_o denotate_v
acknowledge_v as_o member_n thereof_o and_o consequent_o to_o be_v under_o the_o ministerial_a dispensation_n of_o the_o public_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n the_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o save_a soul_n but_o such_o as_o be_v already_o and_o antecedent_o find_v to_o be_v save_o convert_v regenerate_v and_o seal_v of_o god_n for_o his_o by_o the_o holy_a spirit_n if_o not_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o object_n which_o yet_o most_o part_n of_o his_o reason_n and_o discourse_n plead_v for_o yet_o in_o the_o positive_a judgement_n of_o very_a spiritual_a and_o discern_a man_n and_o that_o as_o some_o other_o of_o his_o way_n further_o lay_v out_o the_o matter_n upon_o trial_n and_o proof_n thereof_o give_v by_o a_o conversation_n lead_v without_o the_o omission_n of_o any_o know_a duty_n or_o commission_n of_o any_o know_a sin_n a_o public_a declaration_n of_o their_o knowledge_n in_o the_o fundamental_n and_o of_o other_o point_n of_o religion_n necessary_a to_o lead_v a_o life_n without_o scandal_n together_o with_o a_o narration_n of_o the_o experimental_a work_n of_o their_o effectual_a call_v unto_o repentance_n and_o faith_n and_o all_o church_n that_o be_v not_o constitute_v of_o only_a such_o matter_n as_o this_o be_v to_o our_o author_n wrong_v constitute_v in_o the_o former_a part_n of_o this_o examination_n my_o labour_n be_v to_o discover_v the_o unwarrantablnesse_n and_o contrariety_n of_o this_o tenent_n to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o to_o show_v that_o all_o who_o be_v of_o year_n do_v serious_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n and_o subjection_n to_o be_v discipline_v and_o govern_v by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n aught_o to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o fellowship_n of_o his_o visible_a church_n without_o any_o necessity_n of_o put_v they_o to_o a_o trial_n touch_v their_o inward_a spiritual_a estate_n and_o judge_v upon_o the_o same_o whether_o regenerate_v or_o not_o as_o to_o that_o effect_n and_o be_v to_o be_v deal_v with_o by_o pastor_n and_o private_a christian_n in_o their_o respective_a way_n as_o these_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d within_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 12._o upon_o this_o point_n i_o have_v insist_v the_o more_o large_o because_o not_o so_o full_o and_o of_o purpose_n handle_v by_o other_o before_o and_o it_o be_v of_o a_o truth_n of_o great_a importance_n than_o many_o be_v aware_a of_o it_o be_v far_o from_o my_o thought_n to_o charge_v our_o independent_a brethren_n with_o any_o perverse_a design_n in_o take_v up_o and_o follow_v that_o opinion_n which_o i_o dispute_v against_o many_o of_o they_o know_v to_o i_o by_o their_o writing_n especial_o these_o worthy_a minister_n in_o new-england_n cotton_n hooker_n shepheard_n norton_n etc._n etc._n i_o do_v from_o my_o heart_n reverence_n as_o godly_a and_o faithful_a servant_n of_o christ_n and_o as_o burn_v and_o shine_a light_n in_o the_o reform_a church_n but_o i_o think_v very_o the_o specious_a notion_n of_o a_o pure_a visible_a church_n have_v duzle_v their_o eye_n and_o lead_v they_o upon_o a_o way_n which_o in_o itself_o beside_o that_o it_o have_v no_o warrant_n in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n shall_v it_o get_v foot_v in_o the_o world_n tend_v to_o the_o ruin_n &_o loss_n of_o many_o soul_n and_o to_o the_o bring_n of_o the_o great_a prejudice_n to_o the_o present_a cause_n and_o church_n that_o any_o thing_n ever_o yet_o do_v since_o the_o first_o reformation_n from_o popery_n and_o i_o be_o persuade_v that_o albeit_o the_o intention_n of_o those_o holy_a and_o reverend_a man_n abettor_n of_o it_o be_v honest_a and_o from_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n yet_o satan_n be_v underboard_n let_v no_o man_n offend_v at_o this_o i_o say_v peter_n example_n teach_v we_o that_o satan_n may_v abuse_v good_a man_n zeal_n and_o intention_n for_o christ_n to_o wicked_a end_n contrair_a to_o his_o cause_n satan_n i_o say_v be_v underboard_n drive_v that_o wicked_a design_n for_o if_o that_o be_v the_o the_o rule_n and_o model_n of_o constitute_v the_o visible_a church_n which_o they_o give_v we_o be_v not_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n by_o this_o mean_v condemn_v of_o wrong_a constitution_n &_o raze_v out_o of_o the_o account_n of_o true_a visible_a church_n as_o not_o be_v conform_v nor_o ever_o have_v be_v set_v up_o according_a to_o that_o model_n and_o what_o can_v more_o gratify_v the_o roman_a antichrist_n and_o his_o follower_n then_o to_o yield_v this_o again_o be_v there_o not_o hereby_o a_o ground_n lay_v to_o question_v all_o administration_n of_o ordinance_n that_o have_v be_v in_o they_o and_o to_o justify_v the_o wild_a fancy_n of_o seeker_n deny_v that_o there_o be_v or_o have_v be_v for_o many_o age_n any_o church_n or_o ordinance_n in_o the_o world_n moreover_o when_o as_o none_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n at_o this_o day_n be_v thus_o constitute_v if_o that_o model_n shall_v have_v place_n must_v not_o either_o all_o of_o they_o be_v dissolve_v and_o cast_v down_o to_o the_o ground_n that_o new_a one_o may_v be_v rear_v up_o of_o some_o few_o precious_a one_o pick_v out_o of_o their_o ruin_n or_o to_o the_o effect_n they_o may_v consist_v only_o of_o person_n regenerate_v and_o seal_v by_o the_o spirit_n all_o other_o person_n who_o albeit_o they_o profess_v the_o truth_n subject_n themselves_o to_o ordinance_n yet_o come_v not_o up_o so_o far_o as_o to_o obtain_v a_o positive_a sentence_n that_o they_o be_v regenerate_v upon_o such_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d evidence_n as_o these_o man_n require_v must_v be_v all_o cast_v out_o and_o banish_v the_o church_n put_v among_o those_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 12_o leave_v destitute_a of_o the_o custody_n of_o spiritual_a discipline_n pastoral_a instruction_n inspection_n and_o authority_n and_o so_o expose_v to_o be_v a_o prey_n to_o satan_n and_o his_o emissary_n jesuit_n heretic_n and_o erroneous_a spirit_n whatsoever_o to_o be_v lead_v away_o unto_o what_o soever_o pernicious_a soul-destroying_a error_n or_o to_o turn_v black_a atheist_n that_o this_o be_v no_o needless_a fear_n but_o a_o real_a consequent_a of_o this_o way_n be_v too_o too_o clear_a by_o the_o sad_a example_n of_o many_o in_o these_o time_n who_o live_v without_o the_o pale_a of_o true_a visible_a church_n and_o not_o subject_a to_o the_o shepherd_n staff_n and_o vigilancy_n be_v run_v out_o into_o so_o many_o wild_a error_n in_o religion_n as_o never_o age_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n see_v the_o like_a touch_v the_o other_o head_n the_o author_n in_o his_o appendix_n plead_v for_o two_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o power_n and_o exercise_v of_o church_n government_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o whole_a body_n or_o community_n of_o professor_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o officer_n appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o church_n a_o tenent_n not_o hear_v of_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n until_o morellius_n in_o france_n anabaptist_n and_o brownist_n fancy_v it_o and_z as_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o to_o minister_n and_o other_o officer_n appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n as_o contradistinguish_v from_o common_a professor_n attribute_v the_o name_n of_o ruler_n enjoin_v the_o work_n of_o rule_v and_o prescribe_v the_o rule_n of_o right_a govern_n but_o never_o to_o the_o people_n so_o can_v but_o unavoidable_o draw_v after_o it_o much_o confusion_n and_o frequent_a schism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n whereof_o experience_n afford_v plenty_n of_o example_n 2._o that_o this_o power_n of_o government_n shall_v be_v sole_o entire_o ●nd_v independent_o in_o a_o single_a congregation_n a_o tenent_n that_o beside_o the_o contrariety_n thereof_o to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o very_a light_n of_o nature_n carry_v with_o it_o a_o multitude_n of_o gross_a absurdity_n and_o inconvenience_n by_o this_o mean_n let_v a_o particular_a congregation_n of_o 30._o or_o 20._o or_o few_o 10._o or_o 7._o person_n for_o of_o so_o few_o may_v a_o church_n as_o our_o brethren_n say_v be_v complete_o constitute_v run_v into_o never_o so_o gross_a a_o error_n as_o to_o excommunicate_v a_o person_n unjust_o to_o hold_v and_o maintain_v heresy_n in_o doctrine_n to_o set_v up_o idolatrous_a worship_n there_o be_v no_o ecclesiastic_a authoritative_a remedy_n leave_v under_o heaven_n to_o rectify_v it_o all_o church-communion_n among_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v take_v away_o the_o unity_n of_o christ_n sheep-fold_n the_o visible_a church_n upon_o earth_n be_v dissolve_v and_o christ_n shall_v have_v as_o many_o visible_a body_n as_o there_o be_v particular_a congregation_n a_o minister_n can_v not_o perform_v any_o ministerial_a act_n out_o of_o his_o own_o congregation_n not_o preach_v but_o as_o a_o private_a gift_a brother_n not_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n out_o of_o his_o own_o congregation_n nor_o give_v the_o sacrament_n
there_o seem_v to_o i_o in_o mr._n lockier_n word_n here_o somewhat_o very_a like_o the_o arminian_n apostasy_n of_o saint_n while_o you_o hold_v fast_o say_v he_o the_o practice_n and_o power_n of_o what_o you_o profess_v and_o when_o you_o let_v it_o go_v etc._n etc._n be_v he_o indeed_o of_o this_o judgement_n that_o man_n may_v have_v the_o practice_n and_o power_n of_o godliness_n and_o afterward_o let_v it_o go_v if_o he_o say_v he_o mean_v of_o such_o as_o have_v have_v it_o so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v etc._n etc._n well_o this_o qualification_n if_o in_o any_o place_n shall_v have_v be_v mention_v here_o where_o without_o it_o there_o may_v be_v so_o ready_o a_o apprehension_n of_o apostasy_n from_o true_a grace_n but_o tell_v i_o do_v the_o apostle_n when_o he_o say_v if_o you_o hold_v fast_o the_o confidence_n and_o the_o rejoice_n of_o hope_n firm_a unto_o the_o end_n mean_v thus_o if_o you_o have_v and_o hold_v fast_o these_o thing_n so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v what_o vestigium_fw-la of_o this_o appear_v in_o the_o text_n nay_o be_v not_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o whole_a chapter_n speak_v of_o grace_n to_o be_v perform_v and_o hold_v fast_o in_o veritati_fw-la rei_fw-la utopia_n rei_fw-la which_o if_o he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v the_o requisite_a qualification_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o ecclesiastic_a court_n he_o may_v as_o soon_o get_v a_o visible_a church_n as_o a_o new_a world_n in_o the_o moon_n or_o mr_n mores_n utopia_n in_o very_a deed_n be_v there_o ever_o any_o interpreter_n that_o expound_v he_o otherwise_o section_n iu._n the_o author_n text_n which_o he_o call_v hint_n and_o shadow_n of_o his_o doctrine_n section_n 1_o the_o first_o be_v mat._n 16._o on_o which_o place_n the_o author_n thus_o note_v these_o thing_n 1._o that_o christ_n do_v not_o speak_v here_o of_o the_o invisible_a church_n for_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n bind_v and_o lose_v on_o earth_n the_o invisible_a church_n be_v the_o great_a part_n in_o heaven_n and_o they_o which_o be_v in_o earth_n consider_v as_o one_o with_o they_o as_o one_o entire_a universal_a body_n whereof_o christ_n be_v the_o head_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o visible_a and_o limit_a discipline_n therefore_o i_o judge_v we_o be_v to_o gather_v from_o christ_n word_n that_o he_o speak_v by_o way_n of_o anticipation_n of_o that_o visible_a order_n which_o he_o do_v purpose_n to_o institute_v after_o his_o departure_n by_o his_o apostle_n whereof_o peter_n be_v one_o 2._o observe_v of_o what_o matter_n he_o say_v this_o building_n shall_v be_v viz._n of_o such_o as_o have_v a_o faith_n which_o flesh_n and_o blood_n can_v reveal_v and_o to_o a_o body_n thus_o constitute_v be_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o both_o these_o represent_v and_o personate_v to_o we_o in_o peter_n i_o do_v not_o find_v the_o learned_a and_o orthodox_n of_o latter_a time_n apply_v this_o place_n to_o the_o invisible_a church_n and_o i_o think_v i_o be_o not_o then_o a_o forcer_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o sense_n i_o give_v of_o it_o section_n 2_o answer_n i_o wonder_v much_o how_o this_o have_v fall_v from_o the_o author_n mouth_n and_o pen_n that_o he_o say_v he_o do_v not_o find_v the_o learned_a and_o orthodox_n of_o latter_a time_n to_o apply_v this_o place_n to_o the_o invisible_a church_n do_v not_o all_o the_o learned_a and_o orthodox_n write_v against_o the_o papist_n on_o the_o controversy_n of_o the_o church_n refute_v the_o papist_n expound_v it_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o invisible_a church_n and_o every_o member_n thereof_o and_o do_v not_o the_o learned_a orthodox_n common_o write_v against_o the_o arminian_o upon_o the_o controversy_n of_o perseverance_n apply_v it_o to_o the_o invisible_a church_n and_o use_v it_o as_o one_o of_o the_o prime_a argument_n for_o prove_v the_o certain_a final_a perseverance_n of_o true_a believer_n see_v these_o note_v on_o the_o margin_n writer_n whittaker_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la centies_fw-la notentur_fw-la praesertim_fw-la illa_fw-la loca_fw-la q_o 1_o c_o 1._o ecclesia_fw-la aliquando_fw-la totum_fw-la corpus_fw-la electorum_fw-la fidelium_fw-la &_o sanctorum_fw-la significat_fw-la ut_fw-la cùm_fw-la in_o symbolo_fw-la dicitur_fw-la credo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la sic_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la math._n 16._o 18._o &_o c._n 13._o par_fw-fr 1._o per_fw-la tot_fw-la &_o q._n 2._o c._n 1._o he_o propound_v the_o question_n with_o the_o papist_n thus_o de_fw-fr ecclesiâ_fw-la in_o petra_n aedificatâ_fw-la quaeritur_fw-la inter_fw-la adversarios_fw-la &_o nos_fw-la sitne_n visibilis_fw-la a_o invisibilis_fw-la and_o part_n 3._o he_o determine_v according_a to_o the_o protestant_a doctrine_n that_o it_o be_v invisibilis_fw-la etc._n etc._n 2._o bellarminus_n dicit_fw-la calvinum_fw-la non_fw-la potuisse_fw-la unum_fw-la scripturae_fw-la locum_fw-la proffer_v ubi_fw-la nomen_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la invisibili_fw-la congregationi_fw-la tribueretur_fw-la resp_n inquit_fw-la falsum_fw-la hoc_fw-la esse_fw-la nam_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la aliquan●o_fw-la invisibilem_fw-la congregationem_fw-la significat_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la ipso_fw-la loco_fw-la quem_fw-la tractamus_fw-la super_fw-la hanc_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la &_o q._n 3._o c._n 2._o §._o 2._o 2_o ●_o adversargumentum_fw-la sumitur_fw-la ex_fw-la iis_fw-la locis_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la nomen_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la expersse_v ponitur_fw-la ut_fw-la math._n 16._o 18._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o in_o utroque_fw-la loco_fw-la inquit_fw-la adversarius_fw-la agitari_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la visibili_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la ipsam_fw-la veritatem_fw-la audivimus_fw-la asserentem_fw-la portas_fw-la inferorum_fw-la non_fw-la praevalituras_fw-la resp_n inquit_fw-la whitt_n illam_fw-la quidem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la loquor_fw-la christus_fw-la nunquam_fw-la posse_fw-la deficere_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la assumit_n illam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la loquor_fw-la christus_fw-la esse_fw-la visibilem_fw-la illud_fw-la affirmo_fw-la esse_fw-la falsissimum_fw-la here_o be_v a_o plain_a and_o round_a contradiction_n to_o m_o ●_o lockiers_n note_n upon_o this_o place_n joan._n alsted_n suppl_n chamier_n de_fw-fr eccles_n nat_n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o par_fw-fr 2._o resp_n 2._o duo_o ista_fw-la loca_fw-la n._n math._n 16._o 18._o 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o agunt_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la &_o invisibili_fw-la seu_fw-la interna_fw-la quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la solis_fw-la bonis_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la visibilis_fw-la quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la bonis_fw-la &_o malis_fw-la est_fw-la fundata_fw-la super_fw-la petram_fw-la anton._n wall_n loc._n com._n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la militant_a on_o the_o question_n a_o ecclesia_fw-la possit_fw-la errare_fw-la in_fw-la ans_fw-fr to_o the_o 2d._o obj._n of_o papist_n upon_o this_o place_n math_n 16._o 18._o negamus_fw-la inquit_fw-la hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la esse_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la visibili_fw-la sed_fw-la universali_fw-la &_o invisibili_fw-la cvi_fw-la proprie_fw-la competit_fw-la haec_fw-la firmitas_fw-la insuperabilis_fw-la the_o orthodox_n in_o colloq_fw-la hagien_n and_o amesius_n in_o his_o coron_n press_v it_o as_o a_o prime_a place_n for_o the_o perseverance_n of_o saint_n we_o may_v instance_n very_o many_o more_o but_o we_o need_v not_o the_o thing_n be_v know_v to_o all_o acquaint_v in_o orthodox_n writer_n nay_o some_o eminent_a papist_n themselves_o have_v acknowledge_v that_o be_v speak_v not_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o of_o the_o invisible_a ferus_fw-la non_fw-la loquor_fw-la de_fw-fr ecclesiâ_fw-la ut_fw-la communiter_fw-la sumitur_fw-la pro_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la christiani_n dicuntur_fw-la sive_fw-la boni_fw-la sint_fw-la sive_fw-la mali_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la secundum_fw-la spiritum_fw-la quae_fw-la solos_fw-la electos_fw-la complectitur_fw-la so_o cajetan_n on_o the_o same_o place_n adversus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la congregatione_fw-la fidelium_fw-la unâ_fw-la side_n spe_fw-mi &_o charitate_fw-la etc._n etc._n mr._n lockier_n reason_n bring_v to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v not_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n invisible_a be_v but_o weak_a which_o will_v appear_v the_o better_a if_o it_o be_v put_v into_o form_n for_o it_o be_v somewhat_o confuse_o propound_v by_o himself_o as_o i_o conceive_v it_o may_v be_v thus_o that_o church_n be_v understand_v here_o which_o be_v capable_a of_o visible_a &_o limit_a discipline_n but_o the_o church_n invisible_a be_v not_o capable_a of_o this_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o how_o be_v the_o major_a or_o first_o proposition_n prove_v by_o insinuation_n thus_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n bind_v and_o lose_v on_o earth_n what_o thence_o ergo_fw-la he_o speak_v before_o of_o such_o a_o church_n as_o be_v capable_a of_o visible_a limit_a discipline_n if_o i_o deny_v the_o consequence_n how_o will_v he_o prove_v it_o i_o do_v not_o see_v it_o nor_o think_v he_o shall_v ever_o be_v able_a to_o make_v it_o out_o 2._o but_o to_o pass_v the_o proposition_n let_v we_o see_v the_o proof_n of_o the_o assumption_n the_o
invisible_a church_n be_v the_o great_a part_n in_o heaven_n and_o they_o which_o be_v in_o earth_n as_o one_o with_o they_o as_o one_o entire_a universal_a body_n whereof_o christ_n be_v the_o head_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o that_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n be_v impertinent_o bring_v on_o the_o stage_n here_o christ_n be_v speak_v of_o those_o that_o be_v yet_o to_o be_v build_v or_o be_v a_o building_n therefore_o we_o say_v he_o be_v speak_v of_o such_o as_o be_v on_o earth_n 2._o albeit_o that_o part_n of_o the_o invisible_a church_n that_o be_v on_o earth_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o visible_a and_o limit_a discipline_n formal_o consider_v as_o such_o i._n e._n as_o the_o invisible_a church_n nor_o yet_o collective_o consider_v as_o one_o entire_a body_n yet_o the_o invisible_a church_n material_o i._n e._n these_o that_o be_v the_o invisible_a church_n be_v also_o a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a and_o consider_v distributive_o in_o parr_n may_v be_v capable_a of_o visible_a discipline_n david_n peter_n john_n and_o the_o rest_n who_o make_v up_o the_o church_n invisible_a as_o they_o be_v also_o outward_a professor_n with_o other_o be_v capable_a of_o visible_a discipline_n o_o than_o you_o will_v say_v why_o be_v they_o not_o speak_v of_o here_o i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n as_o they_o be_v a_o visible_a church_n ans_fw-fr it_o do_v not_o necessary_o follow_v for_o to_o person_n stand_v under_o diverse_a consideration_n one_o thing_n may_v be_v attribute_v according_a to_o one_o consideration_n and_o another_o according_a to_o another_o section_n 3_o as_o to_o his_o 2d._o observation_n 1._o it_o be_v contrair_a in_o itself_o to_o truth_n that_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v to_o consist_v only_o of_o such_o as_o have_v a_o faith_n he_o mean_v fidem_fw-la quâ_fw-la creditur_fw-la or_o take_v subjectiuè_fw-la for_o we_o shall_v grant_v it_o of_o faith_n quae_fw-la creditur_fw-la or_o take_v objectiuè_n which_o flesh_n and_o blood_n can_v reveal_v i._n e._n true_a save_a faith_n the_o church_n may_v consist_v of_o such_o as_o have_v not_o that_o faith_n and_o the_o author_n add_v not_o here_o his_o qualification_n of_o so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v neither_o can_v it_o be_v admit_v here_o 2._o qualify_v it_o as_o he_o will_v it_o be_v a_o mere_a violent_a of_o the_o text_n sundry_a interpretation_n by_o diverse_a have_v be_v give_v on_o these_o word_n upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n but_o i_o think_v few_o or_o none_o ever_o before_o our_o author_n give_v such_o a_o interpretation_n as_o this_o the_o visible_a church_n shall_v be_v constitute_v only_o of_o such_o as_o have_v true_a save_a faith_n in_o they_o so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v certain_o whether_o we_o take_v the_o church_n invisible_a or_o the_o church_n visible_a to_o be_v mean_v here_o under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n mr._n lockiers_n sense_n can_v have_v place_n for_o 1._o understanding_n by_o the_o name_n of_o church_n the_o church_n invisible_a in_o that_o sentence_n upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n christ_n be_v not_o speak_v of_o gather_v and_o constitute_v a_o certain_a incorporation_n or_o society_n in_o the_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o such_o a_o incorporation_n or_o society_n and_o how_o person_n of_o who_o it_o be_v to_o be_v make_v up_o must_v be_v antecedent_o qualify_v that_o they_o may_v be_v capable_a of_o admission_n to_o be_v constituent_a member_n thereof_o but_o speak_v of_o his_o own_o act_n of_o efficacious_a grace_n put_v forth_o in_o deed_n with_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n upon_o the_o heart_n of_o some_o person_n who_o he_o call_v his_o church_n because_o they_o be_v call_v out_o from_o among_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n to_o himself_o which_o do_v not_o suppose_v they_o antecedent_o have_v faith_n and_o take_v they_o as_o such_o state_n they_o in_o a_o society_n but_o indeed_o be_v the_o very_o give_v to_o they_o that_o faith_n and_o state_v they_o in_o a_o impregnable_a condition_n of_o grace_n and_o salvation_n whether_o by_o this_o rock_n we_o understand_v that_o faith_n which_o peter_n confess_v or_o christ_n the_o object_n of_o that_o faith_n or_o peter_n himself_o consider_v in_o regard_n of_o his_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o the_o gospel_n preach_v by_o he_o as_o some_o of_o the_o orthodox_n do_v certain_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o build_v the_o church_n upon_o the_o rock_n suppose_v that_o which_o i_o do_v incline_v most_o to_o with_o the_o most_o part_n of_o reform_a divine_n that_o by_o the_o church_n be_v mean_v the_o church_n invisible_a 2._o if_o by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n here_o be_v understand_v the_o church_n visible_a as_o some_o late_a orthodox_n divine_v have_v expound_v it_o namely_o judicious_a and_o learned_a hudson_n in_o his_o accurate_a and_o elaborate_a vindication_n of_o the_o essence_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n yet_o it_o will_v little_a avail_n mr._n lockiers_n purpose_n 1._o because_o it_o be_v a_o particular_a congregation_n and_o the_o qualification_n of_o member_n to_o be_v admit_v thereunto_o that_o he_o be_v speak_v of_o all_o along_o under_o the_o name_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n but_o suppose_v this_o place_n to_o speak_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n it_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o a_o particular_a visible_a church_n or_o congregation_n but_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v understand_v of_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n because_o it_o be_v such_o a_o church_n as_o be_v to_o stand_v firm_a and_o impregnable_a that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n can_v prevail_v against_o it_o but_o any_o particular_a church_n may_v be_v prevail_v against_o 2._o take_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n so_o here_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o whole_a sentence_n upon_o this_o rock_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o this_o as_o the_o learned_a author_n but_o now_o cite_v well_o observe_v that_o the_o profession_n and_o doctrine_n of_o this_o truth_n that_o the_o messiah_n be_v already_o come_v &_o that_o this_o jesus_n be_v the_o messiah_n &_o this_o jesus_n the_o messiah_n be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n the_o doctrine_n and_o confession_n that_o jesus_n christ_n be_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n 1_o joh._n 4._o 2_o 3._o and_o the_o believe_a that_o i_o be_o he_o say_v christ_n joh._n 8._o 24._o be_v the_o foundation_n whereon_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a test_n be_v to_o be_v build_v out_o of_o all_o which_o nothing_o more_o can_v follow_v as_o to_o the_o qualification_n of_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o new_a test_n than_o this_o that_o when_o as_o the_o jew_n under_o the_o old_a test_n believe_v in_o a_o indefinite_a messiah_n to_o come_v now_o under_o the_o new_a test_n none_o can_v be_v of_o the_o christian_a church_n but_o such_o as_o believe_v and_o confess_v that_o the_o messiah_n be_v come_v etc._n etc._n now_o i_o appeal_v to_o all_o the_o orthodox_n world_n if_o mr._n locky_a his_o comment_n upon_o this_o place_n be_v not_o a_o force_n of_o the_o text._n as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v that_o to_o a_o body_n thus_o constitute_v i._n e._n a_o visible_a church_n so_o constitute_v as_o he_o his_fw-mi be_v say_v be_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n give_v and_o both_o these_o represent_v and_o personate_v to_o we_o in_o peter_n to_o pass_v i_o can_v well_o understand_v how_o it_o can_v be_v say_v that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n can_v be_v represent_v and_o personate_v in_o peter_n possible_o the_o church_n may_v be_v represent_v and_o personate_v in_o he_o this_o belong_v not_o to_o our_o present_a question_n and_o therefore_o we_o pass_v it_o now_o trust_v with_o the_o lord_n assistance_n afterward_o to_o evidence_n that_o both_o assertion_n viz._n that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o a_o church_n visible_a i_o mean_v the_o collective_a church_n and_o so_o to_o it_o be_v as_o the_o subject_n and_o that_o peter_n in_o receive_v they_o here_o do_v represent_v and_o personat_fw-la the_o church_n be_v groundless_a section_n 4_o the_o next_o shadow_n or_o hint_n be_v rev._n 11._o 1_o 2._o and_o there_o be_v give_v i_o a_o reed_n etc._n etc._n hereupon_o the_o author_n make_v much_o ado_n 1._o he_o lay_v down_o ground_n by_o interpret_n particular_n in_o the_o word_n 1._o say_v he_o by_o the_o temple_n be_v mean_v the_o visible_a church_n the_o state_n and_o welfare_n of_o which_o though_o most_o infest_a of_o any_o public_a condition_n shall_v not_o be_v leave_v and_o ruin_v but_o be_v careful_o look_v to_o and_o raise_v from_o its_o corruption_n intrusion_n and_o ruin_n make_v by_o unsound_a man_n this_o be_v confirm_v by_o a_o testimony_n of_o marlorat_n hunc_fw-la in_o
in_o this_o vision_n be_v not_o to_o give_v a_o pattern_n and_o portraiture_n or_o model_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o the_o time_n to_o come_v 2._o as_o to_o that_o allege_a meaning_n of_o moses_n receive_v his_o pattern_n near_o heaven_n viz._n to_o show_v of_o what_o qualification_n the_o people_n i._n e._n the_o member_n of_o the_o ancient_a visible_a church_n shall_v be_v viz._n in_o foro_fw-la exteriori_fw-la so_o must_v he_o understand_v it_o if_o he_o speak_v to_o the_o purpose_n in_o hand_n i_o will_v not_o trouble_v myself_o to_o inquire_v who_o may_v be_v these_o very_a learned_a man_n that_o say_v so_o but_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v but_o a_o conjecture_n and_o i_o desire_v mr._n locky_a concern_v this_o and_o the_o expound_v of_o heaven_n here_o to_o remember_v the_o axiom_n acknowledge_v by_o schoolman_n themselves_o otherwise_o dote_v on_o allegory_n theologia_fw-la symbolica_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la argumentativa_fw-la except_o where_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n himself_o open_v the_o signification_n 3._o i_o desire_v to_o know_v what_o mr._n locky_a mean_v by_o person_n real_o live_v very_o near_a heaven_n if_o true_o gracious_a then_o what_o difference_n between_o those_o and_o these_o afterward_o bring_v in_o with_o a_o adversative_a oppose_v they_o to_o the_o former_a and_o why_o do_v he_o propound_v his_o doctrine_n with_o a_o restriction_n to_o the_o time_n of_o the_o gospel_n 4._o that_o pattern_n which_o moses_n have_v show_v to_o he_o in_o the_o mount_n according_a to_o which_o he_o be_v command_v to_o make_v do_v not_o concern_v the_o constitution_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o then_o visible_a church_n of_o what_o and_o how_o qualify_v person_n it_o be_v to_o be_v make_v up_o but_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o the_o tabernacle_n and_o the_o thing_n pertain_v to_o it_o exod._n 25._o 9_o 40._o s._n the_o place_n ezek._n 44._o 7._o refer_v as_o speak_v of_o the_o ordinary_a member_n of_o the_o then_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o it_o speak_v of_o such_o as_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o priest_n office_n see_v junius_n and_o paraeus_n in_o locum_fw-la 5._o as_o impertinent_o and_o much_o more_o impertinent_o be_v the_o place_n of_o heb._n 8._o 10._o cite_v from_o jer._n 31._o 33._o bring_v into_o this_o discourse_n concern_v the_o visible_a church_n and_o the_o matter_n thereof_o i_o appeal_v to_o all_o judicious_a christian_n in_o the_o world_n and_o to_o mr._n locky_a himself_n in_o second_o serious_a thought_n if_o that_o scripture_n be_v intend_v to_o be_v a_o rule_n of_o constitute_a congregation_n or_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o declaration_n or_o revelation_n of_o god_n purpose_n and_o decree_n what_o he_o be_v to_o do_v himself_o by_o his_o efficacious_a grace_n and_o if_o that_o covenant_n and_o the_o promise_n thereof_o belong_v not_o in_o the_o fulfil_n thereof_o only_o to_o the_o lord_n elect_v section_n v._o examination_n of_o mr._n lockyers_n proof_n of_o his_o doctrine_n by_o induction_n section_n 1_o but_o say_v he_o this_o be_v not_o the_o way_n which_o i_o most_o mind_n to_o make_v probation_n by_o of_o this_o point_n i_o will_v prove_v it_o by_o induction_n it_o seem_v then_o that_o he_o his_fw-mi not_o have_v such_o confidence_n in_o that_o former_a way_n of_o probation_n by_o testimony_n allege_v to_o speak_v the_o point_n in_o thesi_fw-la and_o i_o humble_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o judicious_a and_o impartial_a reader_n to_o judge_v by_o what_o have_v be_v say_v in_o answer_n to_o these_o passage_n if_o it_o be_v not_o make_v clear_a that_o he_o have_v little_a ground_n of_o confidence_n in_o they_o for_o proof_n of_o his_o point_n and_o come_v now_o to_o that_o way_n of_o probation_n wherein_o it_o seem_v he_o conceive_v more_o strength_n to_o lie_v section_n 2_o the_o church_n of_o the_o roman_n corinthian_n ephesian_n galatian_n collossian_o thessalonian_o of_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v mention_v by_o peter_n james_n and_o the_o author_n to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o in_o the_o act_n be_v all_o thus_o constitute_v of_o true_o godly_a so_o far_o as_o a_o godly_a man_n can_v make_v judgement_n of_o one_o like_o himself_o ergo._n if_o these_o be_v deny_v as_o precedent_n than_o i_o will_v ask_v our_o brethren_n of_o the_o presbytery_n by_o what_o rule_n they_o walk_v but_o if_o these_o be_v consider_v as_o precedent_n i_o have_v only_o to_o show_v that_o these_o church_n do_v all_o thus_o constitute_v though_o i_o think_v they_o do_v not_o long_o keep_v and_o maintain_v this_o pure_a constitution_n for_o which_o they_o bear_v their_o judgement_n &_o yet_o bear_v ans_fw-fr where_o do_v mr._n locky_a read_v that_o the_o judgement_n come_v and_o yet_o lie_v upon_o these_o church_n come_v upon_o they_o for_o their_o admit_v and_o permit_v to_o be_v in_o their_o visible_a society_n such_o as_o be_v not_o true_a convert_n such_o as_o god_n the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o all_o man_n can_v bear_v witness_n of_o as_o indeed_o seal_v for_o his_o by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n as_o far_o as_o man_n true_o convert_v and_o very_o spiritual_a can_v discern_v and_o judge_v we_o find_v indeed_o lay_v to_o some_o of_o their_o charge_n that_o they_o suffer_v scandalous_a person_n broatcher_n of_o error_n and_o seducer_n of_o other_o into_o their_o error_n such_o i_o mean_v maintainer_n of_o error_n i_o trow_v he_o and_o other_o of_o his_o way_n be_v not_o averse_a from_o receive_v and_o suffer_v into_o their_o independent_a church_n and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o for_o this_o among_o other_o cause_n judgement_n come_v upon_o they_o but_o that_o ever_o that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v lay_v to_o their_o charge_n or_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n come_v upon_o they_o for_o that_o cause_n we_o can_v believe_v his_o assertion_n we_o require_v it_o to_o be_v instance_a by_o proof_n but_o to_o the_o purpose_n he_o suppose_v that_o beside_o these_o particular_a church_n instance_a and_o what_o be_v say_v of_o they_o in_o the_o epistle_n write_v to_o they_o there_o can_v be_v no_o where_n in_o scripture_n find_v any_o thing_n hold_v forth_o as_o a_o rule_n by_o which_o we_o may_v walk_v in_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n or_o member_n thereof_o so_o do_v his_o question_n than_o i_o will_v ask_v our_o brethren_n by_o what_o rule_n they_o walk_v import_v but_o we_o trust_v ere_o we_o have_v do_v to_o find_v a_o rule_n elsewhere_o yet_o we_o shall_v not_o deny_v nor_o refuse_v these_o church_n as_o precedent_n in_o this_o business_n in_o whatsoever_o can_v be_v make_v clear_a to_o have_v be_v their_o practice_n in_o this_o matter_n i_o mean_v the_o notion_n and_o consideration_n under_o which_o person_n be_v admit_v unto_o and_o reckon_v in_o their_o external_a church-fellowship_n come_v we_o then_o to_o consider_v the_o antecedent_n of_o this_o argument_n or_o what_o be_v affirm_v in_o his_o induction_n of_o these_o church_n first_o in_o the_o general_a and_o then_o his_o proof_n thereof_o particular_o the_o assertion_n of_o they_o all_o in_o general_n be_v that_o all_o of_o they_o be_v constitute_v of_o person_n true_o godly_a so_o far_o as_o godly_a man_n can_v make_v judgement_n ans_fw-fr 1._o mr._n locky_a if_o he_o will_v have_v make_v the_o attributum_fw-la of_o this_o induction_n answerable_a to_o his_o conclusion_n intend_v he_o shall_v have_v say_v they_o be_v constitute_v of_o person_n all_o and_o every_o one_o of_o they_o true_o godly_a and_o none_o else_o but_o he_o speak_v only_o indefinite_o which_o may_v be_v grant_v but_o let_v we_o take_v he_o to_o mean_v so_o this_o assertion_n as_o it_o lie_v may_v be_v grant_v in_o some_o sense_n which_o it_o may_v carry_v and_o never_o a_o whit_n advantage_n redound_v thereby_o to_o his_o doctrine_n for_o it_o may_v carry_v this_o sense_n that_o these_o church_n be_v make_v up_o or_o do_v consist_v of_o person_n all_o of_o they_o true_o mat●…ially_o godly_a de_fw-la facto_fw-la and_o quoad_fw-la eventum_fw-la or_o it_o may_v carry_v this_o sense_n that_o they_o be_v constitute_v of_o person_n all_o true_o godly_a formal_o consider_v as_o such_o in_o their_o take_v they_o into_o the_o constitution_n and_o external_a society_n of_o they_o now_o in_o the_o first_o sense_n it_o may_v be_v grant_v as_o i_o suppose_v some_o congregation_n or_o congregation_n may_v be_v such_o eventual_o that_o all_o the_o member_n may_v be_v true_o godly_a &_o yet_o no_o advantage_n come_v thereby_o to_o his_o tenet_n unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o enumeration_n which_o he_o make_v be_v a_o perfect_a enumeration_n of_o all_o the_o particular_a church_n in_o scripture_n which_o he_o can_v because_o it_o be_v clear_o contrary_a to_o truth_n and_o therefore_o his_o induction_n be_v imperfect_a yea_o and_o this_o also_o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o
to_o be_v under_o pastoral_a care_n and_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n if_o he_o can_v show_v we_o this_o either_o in_o precept_n or_o approve_a practice_n we_o shall_v soon_o yield_v and_o be_v at_o a_o end_n of_o this_o controver●…e_n but_o this_o he_o can_v nor_o ever_o will_v be_v able_a to_o show_v and_o therefore_o the_o reason_n from_o the_o care_n and_o acuracy_n to_o be_v use_v in_o try_v person_n who_o be_v already_o in_o the_o church_n in_o relation_n to_o admit_v they_o to_o place_n of_o office_n unto_o admission_n of_o person_n into_o the_o society_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v unreasonable_a 5._o when_o he_o say_v that_o man_n be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o by_o excommunication_n when_o it_o do_v evident_o appear_v that_o they_o be_v hypocrite_n though_o not_o drunkard_n etc._n etc._n i_o desire_v 1._o that_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o a_o hypocrite_n may_v be_v take_v in_o a_o double_a sense_n first_o for_o such_o a_o one_o as_o gross_o and_o know_o counterfeit_v a_o profession_n of_o christianity_n and_o so_o indeed_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o histrionical_a stage-professor_n second_o more_o large_o for_o any_o that_o have_v a_o profession_n of_o christianity_n wherein_o may_v be_v he_o be_v moral_o serious_a but_o have_v not_o within_o a_o principle_n of_o true_a supernatural_a save_v grace_n such_o be_v all_o unregenerate_a person_n in_o the_o church_n such_o a_o one_o be_v that_o young_a man_n in_o the_o gospel_n who_o our_o lord_n be_v say_v to_o have_v love_v and_o the_o lawyer_n of_o who_o he_o say_v thou_o be_v not_o far_o from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n now_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o hypocrite_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n if_o man_n appear_v to_o be_v such_o i_o shall_v confess_v that_o if_o they_o have_v be_v within_o they_o be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o by_o excommunication_n yet_o in_o the_o order_n that_o christ_n have_v prescribe_v after_o due_a admonition_n and_o evidence_n of_o obstinacy_n and_o incorrigibleness_n in_o the_o evil_a and_o of_o this_o i_o shall_v say_v more_o than_o mr._n locky_a viz._n that_o it_o be_v far_o great_a not_o only_o then_o drunkenness_n and_o other_o such_o bodily_a sin_n simple_o in_o genere_fw-la peccati_fw-la in_o the_o nature_n of_o sin_n but_o if_o it_o evident_o appear_v also_o in_o genere_fw-la scandali_fw-la in_o the_o nature_n of_o scandal_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n and_o consideration_n upon_o which_o censure_n proceed_v because_o it_o be_v a_o very_a mock_n of_o god_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n but_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o hypocrite_n in_o the_o latter_a sense_n we_o deny_v utter_o that_o every_o man_n appear_v to_o be_v such_o be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o casten_z out_o of_o the_o society_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n if_o a_o man_n profess_v serious_o religion_n submit_v himself_o to_o ordinance_n though_o there_o be_v appearance_n yea_o though_o it_o be_v reveal_v by_o god_n that_o yet_o he_o be_v not_o regenerate_v and_o endue_v with_o true_a supernatural_a grace_n i_o say_v such_o a_o one_o be_v not_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a let_v mr._n locky_a or_o any_o for_o he_o show_v a_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n for_o excommunicate_v a_o man_n for_o non-regeneration_n the_o doctrine_n of_o all_o orthodox_n divine_v hither_o till_o concern_v the_o object_n of_o excommunication_n and_o that_o ground_a upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v that_o which_o be_v short_o express_v by_o the_o learned_a and_o reverend_a professor_n of_o leyden_n synop._n pour_fw-fr theol_fw-it objectum_fw-la circa_fw-la quod_fw-la exercetur_fw-la haec_fw-la disciplina_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la sunt_fw-la illi_fw-la qui_fw-la fratres_fw-la nominantur_fw-la causa_fw-la verò_fw-la est_fw-la vita_fw-la prava_fw-la vel_fw-la doctrina_fw-la perversa_fw-la nec_fw-la ideo_fw-la statim_fw-la ubi_fw-la quis_fw-la frater_fw-la nominatus_fw-la in_o hujusmodi_fw-la scandala_fw-la incidit_fw-la a_o corpore_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la excludi_fw-la debet_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la anabaptistis_fw-la in_o usu_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la post_fw-la privatas_fw-la demum_fw-la &_o publicas_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la admonitiones_fw-la contemptas_fw-la &_o rejectas_fw-la sicuti_fw-la christi_fw-la verba_fw-la aperte_fw-la significant_a mat._n 18._o disp_n 48._o thes_n 25_o 26._o and_o though_o drunkenness_n and_o such_o like_a bodily-sin_n be_v less_o than_o hypocrisy_n in_o this_o sense_n i._n e._n non-regeneration_n simple_o and_o in_o genere_fw-la peccati_fw-la in_o the_o nature_n of_o sin_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o less_o in_o genere_fw-la scandali_fw-la in_o the_o kind_n of_o scandal_n and_o offence_n unto_o the_o church_n nay_o this_o have_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o scandal_n at_o all_o 6._o yet_o mr._n locky_a according_o to_o the_o genius_n of_o his_o doctrine_n ought_v to_o say_v not_o only_a man_n when_o it_o do_v evident_o appear_v that_o they_o be_v hypocrite_n but_o even_o if_o it_o do_v not_o evident_o appear_v that_o they_o be_v true_o gracious_a and_o we_o can_v discern_v in_o they_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n they_o be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o his_o doctrine_n be_v that_o none_o be_v fit_a matter_n to_o be_v admit_v or_o permit_v to_o constitute_v a_o visible_a church_n but_o such_o as_o be_v true_o godly_a so_o far_o as_o man_n true_o godly_a can_v judge_v and_o discern_v i_o believe_v most_o of_o the_o independent_a way_n will_v disclaim_v he_o in_o this_o 7._o excommunication_n be_v a_o ordinance_n to_o keep_v the_o house_n of_o god_n pure_a and_o according_a to_o what_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v in_o point_n of_o duty_n in_o foro_fw-la exteriori_fw-la and_o in_o order_n to_o salvation_n this_o we_o grant_v only_o in_o this_o sense_n that_o it_o be_v a_o ordinance_n tend_v towards_o this_o as_o a_o mean_n for_o this_o be_v a_o end_n of_o excommunication_n that_o the_o spirit_n may_v be_v save_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n but_o not_o in_o this_o sense_n that_o the_o church_n be_v oblige_v thereby_o to_o effectuate_v it_o quoad_fw-la eventum_fw-la this_o belong_v to_o god_n alone_o excommunication_n be_v a_o ordinance_n to_o keep_v the_o church_n pure_a and_o according_a to_o what_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v in_o point_n of_o qualification_n in_o foro_fw-la exteriori_fw-la in_o order_n to_o external_a visible_a church-state_n even_o quoad_fw-la eventum_fw-la but_o now_o what_o this_o qualification_n in_o foro_fw-la exteriori_fw-la in_o order_n to_o church-state_n be_v be_v the_o thing_n in_o question_n so_o mr._n locky_a in_o his_o reason_n from_o excommunication_n to_o his_o doctrine_n either_o allege_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n take_v his_o antecedent_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n or_o beg_v the_o question_n take_v it_o in_o the_o latter_a 8._o in_o the_o conclusion_n as_o propound_v here_o first_o note_n if_o only_o real_a saint_n be_v the_o proper_a matter_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n and_o save_a grace_n the_o complexion_n of_o it_o then_o all_o saint_n so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v be_v not_o fit_a matter_n for_o these_o be_v not_o necessary_o real_a saint_n simple_o 2._o when_o as_o he_o say_v not_o one_o know_v to_o be_v otherwise_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v answerable_o to_o the_o former_a word_n no_o not_o one_o not_o know_v so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v to_o be_v such_o 3._o can_n justifiable_o enter_v may_v be_v conceive_v either_o in_o point_n of_o duty_n incumbent_n to_o themselves_o who_o enter_v and_o so_o the_o meaning_n be_v this_o man_n join_v themselves_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o make_v profession_n of_o religion_n without_o true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v not_o justifiable_a in_o this_o before_o god_n or_o it_o may_v be_v conceive_v to_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n active_a admission_n of_o man_n into_o external_a church-communion_n and_o the_o sense_n be_v this_o it_o be_v not_o justifiable_a that_o man_n not_o have_v save_a grace_n shall_v by_o the_o church_n be_v admit_v to_o enter_v into_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n if_o in_o any_o thing_n certain_o in_o propound_v doctrine_n state_v controversy_n form_v conclusion_n ambiguity_n shall_v be_v shun_v we_o grant_v the_o former_a sense_n but_o the_o latter_a we_o deny_v and_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o prove_v this_o much_o of_o the_o inducti●…_n now_o come_v we_o to_o the_o four_o way_n of_o probation_n by_o reason_n section_n vi_o examination_n of_o mr._n lockyer_n proof_n bring_v under_o the_o name_n of_o reason_n section_n 1_o his_o reason_n be_v four_o which_o because_o they_o lie_v loose_v out_o of_o form_n and_o be_v somewhat_o prolixely_a pro_fw-la pound_v i_o shall_v labour_v to_o take_v up_o the_o strength_n of_o they_o as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v see_v ingenuous_o in_o form_n that_o we_o may_v both_o with_o the_o more_o shortness_n and_o clearness_n to_o the_o great_a satisfaction_n of_o the_o reader_n consider_v and_o answer_v they_o section_n 2_o the_o first_o reason_n so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v possible_o see_v may_v
subjoin_v to_o his_o vindiciae_fw-la vindiciarum_fw-la i_o shall_v here_o note_v some_o few_o of_o they_o to_o this_o purpose_n for_o the_o reader_n who_o may_v be_v have_v not_o the_o book_n at_o hand_n 1._o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n as_o a_o apostle_n as_o a_o elder_a and_o as_o a_o believer_n so_o the_o sense_n be_v most_o sit_v the_o key_n pag._n 4._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n not_o as_o a_o apostle_n nor_o as_o a_o elder_a but_o as_o a_o profess_a believer_n the_o way_n peter_n receive_v not_o the_o key_n mere_o as_o a_o believer_n but_o as_o a_o believer_n public_o profess_v his_o faith_n the_o way_n clear_v p._n 2._o fol._n 39_o 9_o it_o appear_v that_o christ_n give_v the_o key_n to_o the_o fraternity_n with_o the_o presbytery_n ibid._n and_o the_o way_n clear_v part._n 2._o pag._n 22._o a_o particular_a church_n of_o saint_n profess_v the_o faith_n i_o member_n without_o offificer_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o all_o the_o church_n office_n with_o all_o their_o spiritual_a gift_n and_o power_n the_o key_n pag._n 31._o 9_o as_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v diverse_a so_o be_v the_o subject_n to_o who_o they_o be_v commit_v diverse_a the_o key_n pag._n 11._o so_o locky_a here_o but_o that_o he_o add_v not_o profess_v the_o apostle_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o apostolical_a power_n ibid._n 32._o a_o synod_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o that_o power_n whereby_o error_n be_v convince_v and_o condemn_v ibid._n pag._n 47._o not_o believer_n as_o believer_n but_o believer_n convenant_v and_o fit_o capable_a according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n hook_n suru._n p._n 1._o p._n 203._o 9_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n belong_v first_o to_o a_o congregation_n of_o covenant_a believer_n hook_n suru._n part._n 1._o pag._n 219._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n as_o the_o first_o subject_n ibid._n p._n 195._o that_o conceit_n be_v wide_a to_o make_v one_o first_o subject_n of_o this_o power_n and_o yet_o other_o to_o share_n in_o this_o power_n not_o by_o mean_n of_o that_o for_o this_o be_v to_o speak_v dagger_n and_o contradiction_n ibid._n section_n 3_o now_o see_v the_o author_n argument_n upon_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o faith_n have_v he_o this_o trust_v bequeath_v to_o he_o mat._n 16._o 16._o therefore_o to_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n and_o believe_v with_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o flesh_n and_o blood_n can_v reveal_v be_v the_o key_n of_o power_n primary_o give_v and_o to_o the_o elder_n in_o the_o second_o place_n as_o exert_v out_o of_o this_o first_o estate_n and_o as_o officer_n and_o servant_n of_o it_o answ_n and_o first_o note_n somewhat_o upon_o the_o consequent_a section_n 4_o 1._o the_o consequent_a as_o here_o infer_v be_v much_o different_a from_o that_o which_o be_v propound_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o paragraph_n there_o it_o be_v propound_v thus_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v not_o first_o give_v to_o peter_n as_o etc._n etc._n but_o as_o a_o believer_n here_o it_o be_v the_o key_n of_o power_n the_o former_a expression_n suppose_v there_o be_v such_o a_o distinction_n of_o key_n as_o key_n of_o power_n and_o another_o sort_n of_o key_n different_a from_o these_o be_v indefinite_a may_v import_v both_o but_o the_o latter_a import_v a_o specification_n of_o a_o definite_a sort_n of_o key_n what_o mean_v this_o variation_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v understand_v this_o mystery_n the_o better_a it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o when_o as_o hitherto_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n by_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v understand_v the_o ordinance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n which_o he_o have_v appoint_v to_o be_v administrate_n in_o his_o church_n or_o the_o power_n of_o administer_a these_o ordinance_n under_o himself_o these_o key_n have_v be_v distribute_v unto_o the_o key_n of_o knowledge_n or_o doctrine_n which_o be_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n take_v in_o therewith_o the_o sacrament_n as_o the_o appendicles_a and_o seal_v of_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n or_o discipline_n which_o consist_v in_o censure_n and_o absolution_n from_o censure_n independent_o of_o late_a have_v forge_v new_a sort_n of_o the_o key_n whereby_o they_o have_v confound_v themselves_o and_o wound_n confound_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mater_fw-la of_o its_o government_n they_o tell_v we_o there_o be_v 1._o a_o key_n of_o knowledge_n or_o faith_n the_o first_o subject_n whereof_o be_v every_o believer_n whether_o join_v to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n or_o not_o 2._o a_o key_n of_o interest_n power_n or_o liberty_n which_o be_v in_o all_o the_o brethren_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n and_o 3._o a_o key_n of_o rule_n and_o authority_n which_o they_o say_v be_v in_o the_o elder_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n or_o congregation_n the_o meaning_n and_o refutation_n of_o these_o new_a forge_a key_n see_v in_o jus_n divin_n of_o church_n govern._n part_n 2._o c._n 10._o pag._n 108_o 109._o etc._n etc._n and_o mr._n caudreys_n vindiciae_fw-la clav_fw-mi c._n 2._o per_fw-la tot_fw-la now_o when_o mr._n locky_a in_o the_o consequent_a of_o his_o argument_n speak_v of_o the_o key_n of_o power_n it_o will_v seem_v he_o must_v understand_v that_o second_o kind_n of_o key_n for_o i_o know_v no_o other_o go_v under_o that_o name_n among_o independent_o yet_o may_v be_v by_o a_o new_a conception_n of_o his_o own_o he_o mean_v that_o all_o power_n of_o government_n distinguish_v from_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o word_n and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n exercise_v in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n and_o dispensation_n of_o censure_n again_o see_v another_o great_a variation_n at_o first_o he_o propound_v that_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n first_o as_o a_o believer_n this_o may_v import_v and_o as_o speak_v there_o by_o the_o author_n without_o any_o explication_n can_v be_v otherwise_o understand_v but_o that_o it_o do_v import_v that_o they_o be_v give_v to_o he_o as_o a_o single_a believer_n but_o now_o in_o the_o consequent_a infer_v in_o the_o pretend_a proof_n he_o say_v thus_o they_o be_v give_v first_o to_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n this_o be_v a_o society_n of_o person_n collective_o and_o united_o take_v and_o not_o person_n single_o 2._o where_o shall_v we_o ever_o read_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n call_v the_o officer_n and_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v as_o mr._n locky_a mean_v by_o way_n of_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n as_o a_o superior_a or_o mistress_n depute_v and_o employ_v they_o to_o officiat_fw-la and_o act_n in_o her_o place_n we_o find_v indeed_o they_o be_v call_v the_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n by_o way_n of_o relation_n of_o a_o mean_n to_o a_o end_n for_o their_o good_a 2_o cor._n 4_o 5._o 1_o cor._n 3._o 22._o as_o angel_n or_o minister_a spirit_n send_v forth_o to_o minister_n for_o they_o who_o shall_v be_v heir_n of_o salvation_n heb._n 1._o ult_n but_o they_o be_v only_o christ_n officer_n and_o servant_n by_o way_n of_o relation_n of_o depute_n to_o officiat_fw-la and_o employ_v to_o serve_v unto_o a_o superior_a and_o master_n depute_v to_o officiat_fw-la and_o employ_v to_o serve_v in_o his_o place_n and_o be_v set_v over_o the_o church_n by_o he_o section_n 5_o but_o now_o consider_v we_o how_o this_o consequent_a be_v prove_v the_o argugument_n as_o propound_v by_o the_o author_n be_v enthymematick_a and_o must_v suppose_v another_o premisse_a beside_o that_o which_o be_v express_v which_o must_v be_v true_a as_o well_o as_o that_o express_v to_o make_v the_o consequence_n good_a now_o i_o humble_o desire_v he_o to_o give_v we_o that_o suppress_v and_o suppose_a premisse_a very_o keep_v he_o to_o one_o syllogism_n and_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o do_v it_o observe_v the_o rule_n of_o good_a logic_n and_o reason_n but_o it_o may_v be_v do_v may_v be_v by_o two_o process_n well_o then_o they_o must_v be_v these_o for_o aught_o that_o i_o can_v conceive_v if_o he_o can_v do_v it_o otherwise_o and_o better_o let_v he_o do_v it_o and_o we_o shall_v consider_v of_o it_o the_o first_o be_v this_o that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o peter_n upon_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o faith_n be_v give_v to_o he_o as_o a_o believer_n but_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n upon_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o faith_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n then_o take_v this_o conclusion_n for_o a_o ground_n of_o the_o second_o it_o must_v be_v thus_o that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o peter_n as_o a_o believer_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n believe_v with_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o peter_n believe_v but_o to_o peter_n as_o a_o
but_o hence_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o there_o must_v be_v such_o a_o homogenealnesse_n in_o the_o church_n visible_a as_o mr._n locky_a mean_v that_o it_o be_v endue_v with_o true_a faith_n and_o have_v the_o spirit_n dwell_v in_o their_o heart_n and_o as_o to_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o connexion_n of_o the_o proposition_n we_o answer_v such_o a_o homogenealnesse_n be_v not_o requisite_a for_o such_o a_o derivation_n as_o be_v from_o a_o head_n political_a to_o its_o political_a body_n this_o derivation_n be_v only_o moral_a by_o command_n prohibition_n and_o the_o like_a moral_a act_n but_o christ_n be_v not_o a_o head_n in_o the_o latter_a sense_n as_o the_o head_n in_o the_o natural_a body_n be_v to_o the_o church_n visible_a as_o such_o nor_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n a_o body_n to_o he_o in_o this_o sense_n but_o only_a vocatione_n actiuâ_fw-la and_o in_o external_a profession_n neither_o be_v that_o derivation_n from_o christ_n unto_o the_o church_n whereby_o it_o grow_v up_o in_o the_o lord_n unto_o the_o church_n as_o a_o visible_a church_n or_o consider_v according_a to_o its_o visible_a constitution_n but_o unto_o the_o church_n invisible_a internal_a mystical_a as_o such_o section_n 5_o his_o 2d_o reason_n be_v thus_o short_o if_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n the_o pillar_n and_o stay_n of_o truth_n and_o consequent_o such_o as_o shall_v bear_v up_o the_o truth_n into_o the_o world_n and_o be_v a_o stay_n to_o truth_n hold_v it_o out_o firm_o and_o faithful_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o all_o trial_n and_o such_o as_o in_o which_o god_n live_v and_o dwell_v and_o walk_v then_o none_o can_v be_v matter_n or_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o real_a saint_n for_o why_o do_v god_n live_v and_o dwell_v in_o dead_a person_n who_o only_o make_v a_o profession_n of_o religion_n will_v such_o person_n be_v a_o stay_n to_o truth_n and_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n will_v they_o be_v a_o stay_n to_o truth_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d firmamentum_fw-la as_o the_o firmament_n to_o the_o star_n who_o fall_v from_o heaven_n themselves_o and_o so_o how_o can_v god_n have_v glory_n in_o the_o church_n throughout_o all_o age_n but_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n 1_o tim._n 3._o 5._o in_o which_o god_n live_v dwell_v walk_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr mr._n locky_a still_o in_o this_o as_o in_o all_o his_o other_o argument_n show_v that_o in_o propound_v his_o doctrine_n he_o add_v that_o qualification_n true_o gracious_a so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v but_o dicis_fw-la causa_fw-la and_o in_o show_n to_o avoid_v for_o a_o while_o the_o odium_fw-la of_o the_o great_a anabaptist_n tenent_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o such_o as_o may_v be_v gracious_a and_o godly_a so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v judge_v man_n judgement_n be_v not_o infallible_a in_o this_o as_o himself_o confess_v may_v be_v destitute_a of_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n in_o their_o heart_n and_o so_o such_o as_o will_v not_o hold_v out_o truth_n firm_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o all_o trial_n may_v be_v but_o dead_a person_n and_o so_o such_o as_o in_o who_o god_n do_v not_o live_v walk_v and_o dwell_v 2._o as_o to_o that_o first_o property_n and_o character_n attribute_v to_o a_o visible_a church_n from_o 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o by_o mr._n locky_a first_o i_o will_v ask_v he_o if_o in_o good_a earnest_n he_o mean_v that_o to_o be_v a_o property_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n right_o constitute_v in_o its_o matter_n as_o it_o shall_v be_v that_o it_o will_v bear_v up_o the_o truth_n and_o thing_n of_o god_n firm_o and_o faithful_o to_o the_o world_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o all_o trial_n sure_o this_o be_v the_o very_a thing_n that_o papist_n allege_v from_o this_o place_n for_o the_o unerrabilitie_n and_o indefectibilitie_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n against_o which_o all_o protestant_n divine_v dispute_n yea_o it_o be_v much_o more_o for_o papist_n attribute_v this_o only_a to_o the_o catholic_n church_n visible_a acknowledge_v that_o all_o particular_a visible_a church_n may_v err_v and_o make_v defection_n and_o let_v the_o truth_n and_o thing_n of_o god_n fall_v down_o except_v only_o the_o roman_a church_n because_o they_o make_v it_o to_o be_v the_o catholic_n church_n virtual_o but_o mr._n locky_a acknowledge_v not_o church_n visible_a but_o a_o independent_a congregation_n and_o will_v have_v this_o to_o be_v the_o property_n of_o any_o particular_a visible_a church_n and_o therefore_o propound_v the_o subject_n of_o his_o conclusion_n here_o thus_o a_o church_n visible_a i._n e._n any_o visible_a church_n now_o let_v i_o put_v he_o further_o to_o it_o either_o there_o be_v never_o a_o church_n visible_a right_o constitute_v for_o matter_n from_o the_o beginning_n see_v all_o the_o first_o constitute_v church_n have_v make_v defection_n and_o let_v truth_n fall_v down_o which_o if_o he_o say_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v absurd_a in_o itself_o i_o ask_v why_o then_o do_v he_o a_o little_a before_o bring_v we_o pattern_n of_o right_a constitute_v church_n from_o these_o first_o mention_v in_o scripture_n or_o if_o they_o be_v right_o constitute_v how_o come_v it_o that_o they_o make_v defection_n and_o do_v not_o bear_v up_o and_o hold_v out_o the_o truth_n and_o thing_n of_o god_n but_o do_v let_v they_o fall_v if_o he_o answer_v that_o come_v to_o pass_v because_o they_o keep_v not_o a_o right_a constitution_n for_o their_o matter_n i_o repone_fw-la that_o take_v not_o away_o the_o force_n of_o the_o question_n for_o that_o same_o if_o it_o be_v so_o be_v a_o not_o bear_v up_o and_o hold_v out_o firm_o and_o faithful_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n and_o so_o the_o question_n return_v upon_o this_o 2._o but_o to_o answer_v direct_o to_o the_o place_n though_o interpreter_n have_v some_o variety_n among_o themselves_o about_o the_o meaning_n of_o it_o yet_o never_o one_o of_o they_o acknowledge_v that_o interpretation_n which_o mr._n locky_a give_v but_o oppose_v it_o and_o refute_v it_o in_o papist_n some_o indeed_o expone_fw-la the_o attribute_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n much_o as_o he_o do_v but_o these_o by_o the_o church_n to_o which_o it_o be_v attribute_v understand_v not_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o the_o invisible_a of_o elect._n so_o whittaker_n de_fw-fr eccles_n q._n 3._o c._n 2._o illa_fw-la quidem_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la columna_fw-la &_o firmamentum_fw-la veritatis_fw-la nunquam_fw-la potest_fw-la deficere_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la assumit_n adversarius_fw-la illam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la esse_fw-la visibilem_fw-la illud_fw-la affirmo_fw-la esse_fw-la falsissimum_fw-la invisibilem_fw-la enim_fw-la esse_fw-la affirmo_fw-la &_o demonstro_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o often_o otherwhere_o other_o again_o understand_v the_o subject_n as_o he_o do_v by_o the_o church_n to_o be_v mean_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o ephesus_n but_o these_o expone_fw-la the_o attribute_n the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n not_o of_o what_o the_o church_n visible_a will_v do_v always_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la but_o what_o be_v its_o duty_n and_o dignity_n elogium_fw-la hoc_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la &_o officium_fw-la describit_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la perpetuâ_fw-la luce_fw-fr fulgeat_fw-la gomar_n specul_fw-la ver_fw-la eccles_n c._n 2._o so_o wal._n loc_fw-la come_v de_fw-fr eccles_n milit_fw-la resp_n 1._o hoc_fw-la dicitur_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ephesinâ_fw-la que_fw-la tamen_fw-la periit_fw-la 2._o ergo_fw-la respectu_fw-la officii_fw-la sic_fw-la voco_fw-la see_v more_o concern_v this_o place_n in_o learned_a gomar_n in_o the_o place_n cite_v also_o in_o his_o commentar_n upon_o the_o gallatian_n c._n 2._o in_o the_o second_o tome_n of_o his_o work_n pag._n 244_o 245._o where_o you_o have_v a_o excellent_a discourse_n of_o the_o diverse_a orthodox_n interpretation_n thereof_o both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a divine_n follow_v we_o pass_v here_o camer_n interpretation_n of_o this_o place_n join_v these_o word_n pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n not_o with_o that_o which_o go_v before_o but_o that_o which_o follow_v section_n 6_o for_o the_o second_o property_n and_o character_n out_o of_o the_o 2_o cor._n 6._o 16._o we_o ans_fw-fr with_o all_o protestant_a divine_n that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o visible_a but_o the_o invisible_a church_n that_o be_v the_o temple_n of_o the_o live_a god_n in_o which_o he_o live_v dwell_v and_o walk_v 442._o see_v whittaker_n de_fw-fr ec●ces_n q._n 1_o c._n 11._o pag._n 442._o to_o omit_v many_o other_o argument_n for_o proof_n of_o this_o take_v but_o this_o one_o from_o the_o text_n the_o temple_n of_o the_o live_a god_n in_o this_o place_n be_v take_v in_o such_o a_o sense_n as_o that_o it_o be_v speak_v and_o praedicat_v of_o singular_a person_n
he_o can_v find_v use_v by_o presbyterian_o to_o prove_v the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o ecclesiastic_a government_n to_o be_v in_o the_o hand_n not_o of_o the_o people_n but_o only_o of_o the_o church_n officer_n i_o can_v think_v he_o will_v say_v so_o if_o he_o have_v be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o read_v they_o why_o then_o have_v he_o pass_v other_o in_o silence_n if_o he_o mind_v to_o give_v his_o rational_a reader_n satisfaction_n touch_v his_o tenet_n in_o this_o question_n we_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o see_v these_o touch_v at_o by_o the_o author_n here_o more_o pregnant_o manage_v and_o other_o beside_o they_o in_o jus_n divin_n of_o church_n government_n part_n 2._o c._n 10_o and_o c._n 11._o sect._n 2._o gul._n apollon_n considerate_a of_o certain_a gontrov_n c._n 4._o spanhem_n epist_n to_o david_n buchan_n q._n 2._o mr._n ruth_n peaceable_a plea_n and_o due_a right_n now_o come_v we_o to_o mr._n lockiers_n second_o assertion_n section_n vii_o mr._n lockiers_n 2._o assertion_n touch_v presbytery_n of_o many_o particular_a congregation_n combine_v whether_o classical_a or_o synodical_a and_o their_o power_n consider_v and_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n touch_v this_o matter_n between_o presbyterian_o and_o independent_o lay_v forth_o section_n 1_o in_o the_o former_a assertion_n the_o author_n will_v throw_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n the_o power_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n out_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o they_o who_o christ_n have_v appoint_v to_o be_v ruler_n over_o the_o church_n his_o officer_n to_o put_v the_o same_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o all_o and_o every_o one_o of_o the_o people_n and_o in_o the_o second_o he_o will_v so_o put_v they_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o one_o particular_a congregation_n may_v be_v of_o seven_o or_o ten_o person_n for_o of_o so_o many_o may_v a_o church_n be_v complete_o constitute_v by_o their_o way_n as_o that_o they_o shall_v exercise_v all_o that_o power_n even_o to_o the_o high_a act_n thereof_o independent_o as_o the_o supreme_a tribunal_n in_o ecclesiastic_a government_n under_o jesus_n christ_n upon_o earth_n so_o as_o that_o if_o there_o shall_v be_v any_o error_n commit_v by_o such_o a_o particular_a congregation_n suppose_v the_o great_a error_n or_o heresy_n in_o doctrine_n maintain_v by_o it_o or_o a_o man_n unjust_o excommunicate_v and_o casten_z out_o of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v no_o ecclesiastic_a authoritative_a remedy_n under_o heaven_n to_o redress_v such_o a_o error_n no_o ecclesiastic_a judicatory_a to_o which_o a_o grieve_a person_n may_v have_v recourse_n by_o appeal_n for_o authoritative_a recognition_n or_o redress_v of_o his_o grievance_n but_o see_v we_o his_o assertion_n section_n 2_o that_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n without_o the_o particular_a congregation_n exerce_v authoritative_a and_o coercive_a power_n over_o it_o be_v a_o invention_n of_o man_n have_v thus_o propound_v his_o assertion_n he_o explain_v the_o subject_n of_o it_o thus_o by_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n without_o the_o congregation_n i_o mean_v such_o a_o eldership_n as_o be_v choose_v out_o of_o several_a particular_a congregation_n assume_v to_o themselves_o superior_a and_o decisive_a power_n over_o they_o afterward_o he_o call_v it_o foreign_a eldership_n sect_n 20._o and_o so_o forth_o in_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o book_n and_o then_o again_o undertake_v to_o explain_v the_o nature_n thereof_o say_v i_o find_v among_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o that_o elder_n and_o brethren_n send_v and_o impower_v from_o their_o several_a congregation_n respective_o to_o transact_v and_o conclude_v such_o and_o such_o ecclesiastic_a affair_n within_o such_o a_o limit_a bound_n ex_fw-la sva_fw-la potestate_fw-la be_v a_o foreign_a presbytery_n a_o note_n or_o two_o upon_o these_o thing_n and_o then_o we_o shall_v more_o clear_o and_o distinct_o set_v forth_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n and_o what_o be_v our_o doctrine_n therein_o 1._o whereas_o he_o propound_v to_o himself_o to_o dispute_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o eldership_n or_o presbytery_n without_o the_o particular_a congregation_n i._n e._n as_o he_o call_v it_o afterward_o foreign_a to_o the_o congregation_n he_o but_o enter_v in_o a_o conflict_n against_o his_o own_o fiction_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v sect_n 20._o that_o he_o find_v among_o their_o brethren_n he_o mean_v presbyterian_o that_o a_o presbytery_n send_v from_o several_a congregation_n be_v a_o foreign_a presbytery_n i_o humble_o conceive_v for_o aught_o i_o can_v remember_v of_o any_o of_o they_o he_o wrong_v they_o exceed_v much_o i_o do_v not_o remember_v of_o any_o presbyterian_a that_o acknowledge_v the_o presbytery_n of_o several_a congregation_n associate_v in_o government_n to_o be_v a_o foreign_a or_o extrinsecall_a presbytery_n to_o these_o congregation_n nor_o be_v it_o so_o indeed_o it_o can_v be_v call_v a_o foreign_a presbytery_n to_o all_o the_o congregation_n associate_v under_o it_o because_o it_o be_v make_v of_o their_o own_o several_a eldership_n nor_o yet_o can_v it_o be_v foreign_a or_o external_a to_o any_o of_o they_o because_o every_o one_o be_v a_o part_n of_o it_o and_o in_o it_o as_o a_o part_n of_o the_o whole_a as_o a_o parliament_n can_v be_v call_v a_o foreign_a judicatory_a to_o the_o whole_a kingdom_n whereof_o it_o be_v the_o parliament_n nor_o unto_o any_o of_o the_o several_a city_n or_o county_n which_o be_v part_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o be_v in_o the_o parliament_n by_o their_o deputy_n or_o commissioner_n as_o part_n constituent_v thereof_o indeed_o the_o prelate_n and_o his_o cathedral_n consistory_n take_v to_o themselves_o the_o government_n and_o jurisdiction_n over_o all_o congregation_n in_o the_o diocese_n be_v a_o external_a &_o foreign_a judicatory_a to_o these_o church_n because_o they_o exclude_v the_o other_o congregation_n and_o their_o eldership_n from_o all_o collateral_a concurrence_n and_o copartnership_n with_o they_o in_o the_o government_n but_o the_o presbytery_n we_o speak_v for_o be_v make_v up_o of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o several_a congregation_n which_o it_o govern_v as_o intrinsical_v collateral_a part_n constituent_v thereof_o and_o therefore_o can_v be_v call_v foreign_a to_o these_o several_a congregation_n 2._o when_o as_o he_o express_v the_o power_n of_o these_o presbytery_n against_o which_o he_o propound_v this_o dispute_n under_o the_o name_n of_o coercition_n call_v it_o a_o coercive_a power_n he_o seem_v on_o purpose_n to_o choice_n a_o odious_a word_n to_o render_v it_o suspicious_a by_o the_o very_a name_n for_o the_o word_n of_o coerce_a in_o the_o common_a use_n most_o seem_v to_o import_v outward_a bodily_a or_o civil_a force_n exercise_v upon_o person_n or_o thing_n to_o stop_v and_o repress_v their_o action_n ipsis_fw-la etiam_fw-la renitentibus_fw-la we_o ascribe_v no_o such_o power_n unto_o presbytery_n but_o a_o power_n of_o execute_v spiritual_a censure_n which_o have_v no_o external_a force_n upon_o person_n yea_o nor_o physical_a neither_o but_o only_o moral_a as_o administer_v by_o the_o eldership_n though_o they_o may_v be_v accompany_v by_o god_n with_o a_o physical_a i_o mean_v a_o real_a operation_n upon_o the_o person_n either_o in_o mercy_n or_o judgement_n and_o if_o at_o any_o time_n those_o who_o be_v for_o presbytery_n over_o more_o congregation_n speak_v of_o their_o power_n call_v it_o coercive_a they_o mean_v no_o other_o thing_n but_o a_o power_n of_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n exercise_v in_o spiritual_a censure_n such_o as_o the_o author_n himself_o and_o these_o of_o his_o way_n attribute_n to_o particular_a eldership_n of_o a_o single_a congregation_n together_o with_o the_o congregation_n over_o every_o member_n thereof_o if_o the_o author_n have_v deal_v ingenuous_o with_o we_o he_o shall_v not_o use_v such_o a_o word_n without_o explanation_n of_o the_o thing_n he_o know_v we_o mean_v but_o now_o let_v we_o see_v the_o clear_a state_n of_o the_o controversy_n in_o this_o mater_fw-la section_n 3_o the_o subject_n in_o general_a whereupon_o the_o question_n run_v between_o we_o and_o the_o independent_a brethren_n be_v a_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n of_o more_o congregation_n than_o one_o concern_v which_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n confess_v and_o uncontroverted_a where_o of_o we_o shall_v take_v notice_n in_o the_o first_o place_n that_o we_o may_v the_o better_o see_v where_o the_o difference_n and_o contoversie_n lie_v 1._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o that_o consociation_n of_o more_o particular_a church_n or_o congregation_n in_o one_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n be_v lawful_a and_o useful_a hooker_n suru._n p._n 4._o c._n 1_o 2._o 2._o that_o these_o consociation_n be_v and_o may_v be_v of_o several_a sort_n and_o degree_n some_o lesser_a some_o great_a class_n synod_n and_o these_o provincial_n nationall_n ecumenical_a idem_fw-la ibid_fw-la so_o then_o there_o be_v no_o controversy_n about_o the_o be_v simple_o