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A50249 A disputation concerning church-members and their children in answer to XXI questions wherein the state of such children when adult, together with their duty towards the church, and the churches duty towards them is discussed by an assembly of divines meeting at Boston in New England, June 4th, 1657 / now published by a lover of truth. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing M1271A; ESTC R3585 21,931 42

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in for that his reports of New England have perhaps therefore found the more credit because he above others is not without advantages to know New-England and the waies of the Churches there better than it seems he doth The design of these enquiries being to search out what course the Lord Christ in his wisdom and faithfulnesse hath appointed for prevention of the degenerating of Churches in successive generations from their primitive soundnesse and purity and of the polluting and prostituting of his holy things thereby it is not altogether improbable but some additional contribution of light may be brought forth by them to us here in England in that great case of ours about the restoring of such of our Parishes as retain any thing of the essence of a Church in them and thence are capable of a reformation to such a measure of purity as may take off the just distasts and dissatisfactions of such as are conscientiously tender of their Church-Communion The preservation of Churches pure restauration of them when collapsed meeting in the end do also run along together in the way thereto and are to be accomplished by the same rules May this in any measure be the fruit of this Disputations coming under the presse it will never repent any of those persons that have had any hand therein yea it will be their rejoycing and their glory in the day of the Lord Iesus and that so it may the blessing of Heaven be upon it A DISPUTATION CONCERNING Church-Members AND THEIR CHILDREN IN ANSWER to 21 QUESTIONS Quest 1. WHether any Children of confederate Parents be under their Parents Covenant and members with them Answ. Some Children of confederate Parents are by meanes of their Parents Covenanting in Covenant also and so Members of the Church by divine Institution For Arg. 1. They that are in that Covenant for substance which was made with Abraham Gen. 17. 7. they are in Covenant and Members of the Church by divine Institution because that Covenant doth inferre Church-Membership as being the formall cause thereof For 1. A people that are in that Covenant are thereby the visible People or Church of God Gen. 17. 7. compared with Deut. 29. 12 13. by this Covenant the Family of Abraham and so afterwards the People of Israel was made and established the visible Church of God 2. Many were in that Covenant which never were in saving state of grace Therefore that was the externall or Church Covenant which God makes with his visible Church or People 3. Circumcision sealed that Covenant which was the distinguishing mark between those within and those without the Church But some children are in that Covenant for substance which was made with Abraham Gen. 17. 7. as appears by sundry Scriptures which being rightly considered and compared do inferre the continuance of the substance of that Covenant whereby God is a God to his People and their seed under the new Testament Acts 2. 39. Gal. 3. 14. with Gen. 28. 4. Rom. 11. 16 17. the Churches of the Gentiles do partake of the root of covenanting Abraham and of Olive or Church estate thereby So 1 Cor. 7. 14. The word Holy as applied to any sort of persons and opposed to Gentile-uncleannesse is not in Scripture used for lesse then a Faederall or covenant-holinesse but is often used in that sense as Ezr. 9. 2. Deut. 7. 6. and 14. 2. 21. and 26. 19. and 28. 9. Dan. 8. 24. and 12. 7. Rom. 11. 16. and where a covenant or faederal estate is asserted of children what doth it but refer us to that Ancient and never revoked covenant common to all Nations whereof Abraham was the Pattern-Father Gen. 17. 5 7. And if Gentile Proselytes of old they and their children shared in that covenant surely Gentile believers now are not behind them in the like priviledge For the Gentile confederate believer is also a child of Abraham Gal. 3. 7 29. Rom. 4. 11 16. Therefore he hath that covenant of which Abraham was a pattern subject made with him viz. That God will be his God and the God of his seed Luk. 19. 9. Arg. 2. Such children as are by Christ affirmed to have a place and portion in the Kingdome of Heaven they have a place and portion in the visible Church and so consequently are members thereof But so it is with some children Math. 19. 14. Mark 10. 14. Luk 18. 16. The Proposition is evident for the Kingdome of heaven or of God is sundry times used to expresse the visible Church or Church estate Math. 25. 1. and 21. 43. and 8. 12. And if the Disciples might or should have known that those children were to be admitted to Christ upon that ground then the Kingdome-Interest of such children was a visible or knowable and apparent thing If any should expound it of the Kingdome of Glory yet that would inferre the same thing For neither may the Church exclude those from her fellowship who by Christ his testimony are visible heirs of Glory nor are any in ordinary course heirs of the Kingdome of Glory that are not of Gods visible Church and Kingdome of Grace here And what is there spoken by Christ himself as a standing truth and that under the term of the Kingdome of Heaven a term in speciall manner applied unto Gospel-Administration cannot be doubted to continue in force in the Christian Church of the new Testament Arg. 3. If no children be members of the visible Church then was not the Lord Jesus when a child a member of the visible Church but none we presume will venture to say so of Christ Arg. 4. If it were not so no children might be Baptized For Baptisme being a Church Ordinance and a seal of being incorporated into the Church 1 Cor. 12. 13. and succeeding circumcision which was proper to the Church none can be subjects immediately capable thereof but Church-Members Nor doth the Power of Officers as such extend further then to the Churches as they cannot judge so they may not Baptize them that are without or non-members Arg. 5. They that are some of the Disciples intended in Mat. 28. 19. are Church-members For as the term Disciples is ordinarily used for Church-Members Act. 6. 1 2 3 5. and 9. 26. and 14. 22 23 27 28 and 18. 27. and Vers. 22. with Chap. 21. 16. and 20. 7. So this sense thereof best suits that place in Matthew 28. 19. because the Disciples there are the immediate subjects of Baptisme and so of being called by God his name the wonted Title of Church-Members and because they are such as are subjected to Christs School to Christs Doctrine and Discipline and to the authoritative teaching of his Ministers and observation of all things that shall be taught by them ver. 20. But some children are some of the Disciples intended in Mat. 28. 19. For 1. some children were some of those whom the Apostles in accomplishing that commission did Disciple Acts 15. 20. Those whom the false Teachers
A DISPUTATION CONCERNING Church-Members AND THEIR CHILDREN IN ANSWER TO XXI QUESTIONS Wherein the State of such Children when Adult Together with their Duty towards the Church And the Churches Duty towards them is DISCUSSED BY AN ASSEMBLY of DIVINES meeting at BOSTON in NEW ENGLAND Iune 4th 1657. Now Published by a Lover of Truth London Printed by I. Hayes for Samuel Thomson at the Bishops Head in Pauls Church-yard 1659. To the READER IT is justly accounted one of the glories of the English Nation that God hath honoured them with special light in some momentous Truths above what he hath other Protestant Churches round about them The morality of the Christian Sabbath deep and spiritual insight into those secret transactions between the Lord and the soules of his elect at their first conversion also in their after walking in communion with God are usually observed as instances hereof And of the same kind though perhaps in a lower rank are those Truths about the instituted Worship of God which have been now for some years a considerable part of those disquisitions which do also at this day exercise the most searching thoughts and ablest pens that are amongst us And truly the dealing of God in his Providence towards the people of this Land in bringing out the light and glory of these Truths hath been observable and different from the way that he hath walked in to other Churches For whereas they rose up from Antichristian apostasie in Doctrine and Discipline both at once together with his abominations in Faith rejecting also his inventions in Church Order insomuch as neither the Head the Pope nor his Body in the principal Members of it the Arch-Bishops and Bishops with the rest of that Hierarchical frame have at all been to be found exercising the usurpations of the man of sin in most of the Reformed Protestant Churches since the first day of their rejecting Popery In England it was far otherwise the head of Antichrist being indeed here cut off by Henry the eighth who justled him from his usurped supremacy within his Territories but yet as is observed of him he left his body the Hierarchy continuing which for many years not only stood but exercised in a great measure the authority of the Dragon and made an image of the Beast and caused as many as would not worship it to be killed And in this the Lord had doubtlesse a design more fully to lay open the loathsomnesse of the abominations of the mystery of iniquity in this part of it which by his infinite wisdom he effectually carried on all along and hath in a good part accomplished in these daies wherein we live For even from the first Reformation here begun the Lord shone in upon the understandings of some of his precious servants with such an evidence of light in these things as overpowred their Consciences and constrained them to bear a publick testimony against the remainders of Antichrist in the Land Insomuch as from that time till the day of the downfal of all the Hierarchical brood God never suffered himself to be without his witnesses in this cause of his whom he raised up and whose right hand he held to plead and preach and pray and weep and beleeve and print and contend and resist and suffer for the institutions of Christ not only to silencing and reproach but to banishment and blood it self some of them And verily the number of the Martyrs of Iesus Christ who have had his testimony and kept the Word of the patience of the Saints in this Land since the first Reformation will be found not to be few and their sufferings neither few nor light whenever that dying wish of judicious and blessed Ames shall be accomplished as it deserves viz. that a Martyrologie in this cause of Church-Discipline under the Bishops should be compiled and published to the world And hence it is come to passe that amongst the English Divines and Christians there is as was said more light in these points and in sundry of their Church Assemblies and administrations more purity then is so ordinarily to be met withal in others Amongst all that have suffered for and searched into these Truths they of New-England justly deserve and will have a name and a glory as long as the earth shall have any remembrance of an English Nation not only for their sufferings here under the iniquity of those bloody Fathers of the Church as they loved to be stiled the Bishops though they bore as great if not a greater share therein than most of their brethren that staied behind them But more especially will after ages honour them for that great and high adventure of theirs in transporting themselves their wives and little ones upon the rude waves of the vast Ocean into a remote desolate and howling wildernesse and there encountring by Faith and patience with a world of temptations and streights and pressing wants and difficulties and this upon no other inducements but that they might meet with him whom their souls loved in the midst of his Golden Candlesticks and see him as they have there seen-him in his Sanctuary An undertaking hardly to be parallell'd unlesse perhaps by that of their Father Abraham from Ur of the Caldees or that of his seed from the Land of Egypt And these are the men Christian Reader who are the Authors of this disputation now put into thy hands which deserves esteem and acceptance somwhat the rather on this account because it comes from such as it doth and is about such a Subject even from men holy and learned and is about that which they have searched into as seriously impartially and unprejudicedly as any men are ever like to do in this world Besides that being themselves Officers to Instituted Churches of Saints and this work of theirs being nextly and especially for the service of the Churches they did therein lie under as direct and full an influence of the Spirit of Christ and were on all accounts as compleatly wrapt within the promise for their guidance as men can on this side Heaven Yea 't is about those Truths which they have and at this day do suffer for and therefore they are as likely as most others to be the instruments in the hand of Christ by whom he will communicate further light in these points God is never behind hand with men and as some special exercise of any particular Grace strengthens and encreaseth it and establisheth the heart in it and with it so the obedience and faithfulnesse of his servants to any truth of Christ especially if in an eminent degree and manner engageth God to make known more of his counsel and will in that truth to such persons and as under such an engagement the Lord looks upon himself It is true indeed the Civil Magistrates of that Jurisdiction of the English in New-England that lies upon the River Connectiquot sent these Questions to the Magistrates of the Massachusets and they mutually