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A37894 A reviving word from the quick and the dead, to the scatter'd dust of Sion, or, A breathing of the spirit of life, in a few bones, that begin to rise and rattle, in and about this city of London by a solemn declaration for an immediate uniting of all saints into one body, upon the growing principles of grace, and kingdome of our Lord Jesus, in every administration thereof ... Edmonds, Edward. 1657 (1657) Wing E178; ESTC R13451 58,240 72

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Lamb for Testimony a● a Res●lved People 9. To Give our Selves All up to the Lord and one Another in Christs and his Kingdomes Service for Readinesse as a Willing People 10. An Exact Life and Conversation amongst all for example as an Holy People 1 Motive to this Vniting is that it ever began the great Work of God In Aegypt In Babylon And in Jeruselem in the Apostles Days And in the last Days by the Spirit of Eliah 2 Motive the Call of Christ from the Grave 3 Motive is the Consent and Vote of all Saints alive Dead in this they all Vnite 4 Motive it is Christs Gathering-time that is upon us 5 Motive it is his Visiting time too The Communion of Saints is not in this or that Forme but such a Communion as holds in heaven and in earth as to the Spirit of it 6. Mot is the Deepes and Sea of knowledge c. by this meanes The benefit of the Deeps above the Shallowes The Promise of the Deeps 7 Motive to be All called by One Name and yet every one in his own PATH 8 Motive in this Way there is a NECESSARY USE of diverse and Different Members and B anches How this Body differs from others in the order of it 9 Motive the most excellent and Vsefull matter whether we ever see it or no! and as unworthy as we are must be found in this WAY at last 10 Motive The most Excellent Ministry that is to be till the second coming of Christ must arise this Way The flying Gospell The seaven Thunders The Trumpet of one piece 11 Motive is the Danger of Jacob to be utterly destroyed in this Nation How Eaten up 12. All Saints must to it at last 13. This will abide when other wayes sale 14 Motive Least the Anathema Maranatha our highest Curse which is the Curse of his second coming be upon the Disobedient 1 Query Ansn 1. Not a mixture but a thorough Separation 2. Not an overly Fellowship but a close and cleaving Aggregation upon Kingdom Principles 3. Not a Narrow rigid but a Large Comprehensive Spirit 4. Not a stating it in any one Forme but in the Power of Faith and Godlinesse 5. Not a disordering or displaceing but a due ordering and well placeing of different Saints in their proper Joyntts 6. Not a party growing but an Increase of of the WHOLE together 2 Query Answ. 1. We think it hath been we do own them that retain it in Purity 2. Yet not perfect but rising 3. And are for Communion with them Vnion of All and Embodying of scatte red ones 4. Yet we see them not so acording to the Primitive patterne 5. We deny not but they may be called the Temple also 6. We dare not but deny Communion with the Apostate Churches and with no others Answ. How this doth bear the Name from them Answer 1. We say not so nor are we so 2 One may be of two bodies 3. Of two lodies or Churches one by way of Admission as a proper Member and the other by way of Communion 4. The formall Consideration consists with a particular Body 1 Object 1 True Chu●ch hath a place for all Saints 2. And are not to be put by that they doe desire it 3. But have a spiritual Intelligence with all 4. In an invisible Way of communion also 2. Object ● Answer The Church-Communion of Gospel-institution admits all Sa●nts Prophets Apostles Martyrs and ●ow 3 Object ● Answer Not our patterne as an universall but particular visible Church 2 A great mistake to think particular meetings are particular Churches Yet in what sense some will so interpret How they may be said to be Many and yet but ONE As Sion as a Body as a City as an Army as a Kingdome as a Heaven as a New Jerusalem 4 Object 1 Answer No more like an universall Church 2. Then every particular in primitive times 3. The nearer to it and to the Nature of it the better Others that must succeed must exceed upon this Principle 5 Object Ans. 1. Wisdome leftwith the Church for the Wel-being thereof 3. The Word of Prophecy is many in one 3. A plaine Pattern for it 1. Collectively altogether 2. Distributively or in severall places and meetings And then Organically as there is need A. 1. In their severall Meetings Ordinances 2. Those wherein One differs from another in the different Meetings 6 Object A. 1. One and the same Rule for the Church 2. Not as Apostles 3. But as Members and Ministers 7 Object Ans. 1. No injury to Churches 2. But to make up the Breaches 3. And to put all Formes into their right use and place 4. Not to rend but reforme and refine them 5. Who can be offended at this Object 8. Ans 1. A duty at all times 2. Signes of the Time of the End 3. If that Ground be not clear to thee yet manyare Object 9. Ans. 1. Breaches not so likely this Way wherein every one hath his right and Due 2. Not so soon in a Body Compacted well Co●●●●ed as in a B●dy pa●●●fyed and made a Faction or a s●●● or but a p●●ce of Communion of Saints 3. We are better able to crush and kill Divisions ● If breaches should arise yet the THING will stand and that rejoyces our hearts what ●●● become our Perso●s Object 10. Ans. 1. Vniformity not in Primitive times kept up and why Object 11. Ans. 1. The first patterne is before Act. 2. 41. 2. That relates to Converts this to Disciples 3. No primitive Church stated in One Form or judgment 4. All Churches gathered and govern'd by this Rule of Communion with all Saints and of liberty to all orderly and in their Places Object 12. Ans. 1. Take the fruites with the Tree and upon the Tree 2. Take your own Way So it be according to the Patterne and the Worke 3. It must be a Way sutable to every one for service and exercise 4. We cannot be expected to be so Perfect at day-breake as at Noon day 5. Yet have a care every one of you now you doe reject this Way An Expostulation Refuse the first step and lose the second All Objections we can meet with most easily Answer'd The Spirits Office is to enable us Our Way to it is most Clear To the Reader and his conscience The Invita●ion to all the godly People in the three Nat●ons The Exhortation grounded The wonderfull evils of these Times amongst Professours make us looke for little from some Who they are that will not accept this Call The benefit of them that accept this Call and Invitation with the First Our Cries and Prayers Our full purpose of Heart if the Lord helpe us The Conclusion To all our Brethren and Country men A Remembrance A Remembrance A Challenge On the contrary an Expostulation
of the mystery of Godlinesse which is without controversie Object 2. But the mysticall Church consisting of the elect in Christ Angels and men alive and dead borne and unborne c. cannot be properly ●alled Church-state instituted by Christ in the Gospel being constituted from Eternity in Gods Decree c. Answ. Yet the visible Church in Communion with them with Angels and Spirits of just men made perfect i. e. in a most sweete secret and invisible way is of Gospel institution Heb. 12. 22 23. Ephes 2. 19 20 21. and this is all that we affirm that our Communion must be of such a Nature and comprehensivenesse of Spirit as should not onely admit an Onenesse with them in Spirit but a walking with them on earth were they all alive amongst us under their diverse Administrations forms gifts and apprehensions Object 3. Some hold that the Church at Jerusalem was made up of many particular Churches and this you make your pattern Answ. Not in that sense nor do we hold so but we hold the Church at Jerusalem was but one particular Church having diverse sorts of Members and Meetings at some times and so it is our patterne and not as an universall visible Church for that we deny the universall Church being partly visible and partly invisible comprehending all times places and sorts in heaven and earth Answ 2. It is a great mistake to think the particular meetings of this Body are particular Churches for any one Church may have at some times severall meetings about several matters as Acts 12. 5. 12. 17. 20. 20. Gal. 2. 2 3. and yet be but one particular Church So it is here Notwithstanding in another consideration it seemes to some with as good Analogy and Property of speech consonancy and consistency of truth and Rule as now any Particular Church what ever may be called One and yet the members in particular or the families be many may the meetings too be many and it be said The Church that is at their house Rom. 16. 5. 1 Cor. 16. 19 Col. 4. 15. and the Church which is which meets at his house So Phile 2. So those of Caesars houshold yet in this sense that we speak they were but members of the Church So those that met in Maries house Act. 12. 5. 12. yet were but members of the Church at Jerusalem Now the reason is because two or three together in Christs name or the faithfull of some one Family or a meeting of brethren may be called a Church in one respect and not as they stand related in another Phil. 4. 22. and thus may we be said to be but ONE COLLECTIVELY and yet MORE THEN One if every meeting must be so interpreted DISTRIBUTIVELY wherein one may differ and be in his joynt from Another Though for our parts we cannot Understand it so as of many but of one BODY as 1 Cor. 12. 25. but now are they MANY and many sort of members yet but ONE BODY As SION may have many Gates wherein might be severall Assemblies as of one sort that sat in one gate and another sort in Another and yet be but ONE SION Psal. 84. 2. As the BODY hath many joynts members Arteries Sinewes Veines wherein every one Member from joynt to joynt may be lookt upon as distinct and yet as conjunct or a member of the WHOLE yet makes but one BODY Rom. 12. 4. As a CITY Psal. 122. 3 4. 46. 4. hath many houses Trades Streets Corporations and Societies wherein every one in it's own bounds may be called in a sense a Body yet makes but one City compact As an Army with Banners Cant 6. 4. 10. wherein every Company Regiment Colour Brigade and Wing is as it were an Army by it selfe yet makes but one in all as a Kingdome Joh 18. 36. Heb. 12. 28. Mat. 21. 43. may have many Families Cities Villages Shires Countries c. wherein every one by it's selfe may be said to be a little Kingdome and yet are all but one Kingdome And as Heaven Mal. 13. 11. 24. 31. wherein every firmament Element Planet Star and Constellation make up but one Heaven So is it with a true Church of Christ which is called a Body a City an Army a Kingdome and a Heaven in Scripture So the new Jerusalem Rev. 21. 14. may be said to have twelve Foundations and in them the name of the twelve Apostles and the Lamb every particular member of different Sate vers. 19 20. as the Jasper and Saphire and Calcedony c. to be upon his own and proper Foundation wherein one differ from another as Paul from Peter c. and yet in another sense All have but one foundation 1 Gor. 3. 11. For other foundation can none lay then that which is Jesus Christ So that if any do understand us distributively as of MANY because of our severall meetings members or branches yet they must conclude us collectively All to be but ONE BODY or Church at last Object 4. But then you are like an Vniversall visible Church Answ 1. No no more then every particular Church was in the Primitive times who had their many meetings and different members as well as we 2. There is no such Church as we know of as universall VISIBLE But 3. That there is an universall Church we beleeve and that every particular Church of Christ should be as like to the Vniversall in Integrals and Parts as the Child is like the Parent or the Daughter the Mother we also beleeve and therefore the nearer and liker we are to the universal Church or mother of us All Gal. 4. 26. in Spirit grace and communion with All Saints visible and invisible the more thank●full are we to the Lord whose workmanship we are in Christ Jesus And yet we are but a poor despised Dust a particular visible Church that would faine look like the choice one of her Mother Cant. 6. 9. far short yet pressing after a more Likenesse indeed to the Vniversall consisting of All Saints Jew and Gentile past present and to come and more of the Nature and Spirit of the New Jerusalem But we believe that others are to follow after us and in this Principle too prefer'd before us whose shoes we are not worthy to untie We know not what Influences and Tendencies this may have thereto Obj. 5. But we fear you have no pattern from the Primitive times for such different and sundry Meetings besides the publick of the whole together were that clear we could be satisfied Answ 1. If there had not been left us a plain and direct Example for it as we find in some circumstances yet God hath left his Wisdome with the Church Eph. 3. 10. 1 Cor. 2. 7. a wisdome that is from above James 3. 17. in such Cases as tend to keep up good order Edifying and Discipline in the Body Rom. 14. 19.