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A78120 A small treatise of baptisme, or, dipping. VVherein is cleerely shewed that the Lord Christ ordained dipping for those only that professe repentance and faith. 1. Proved by scriptures. 2. By arguments. 3. A paralell [sic] betwixt circumcision and dipping. 4. An answere to some objections by P.B. Psal.119.l30. By Edvvard Barber. Barber, Edward, d. 1674? 1642 (1642) Wing B694; Thomason E143_17; ESTC R212733 26,999 39

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much easier 3. In respect of the end of it Circumcission did but manifest an outward right to temporall inheritance in the land of Canaan but Dipping doth witnesse to Be●eevers that they have a visible right into the Kingdome of heaven Luke 12. 32 not onely in grace here but in glory hereafter Againe in respect of the time for circumcision was to continue so long as the Jewes continued to bee a Nationall Church and then to end at Christs death but Dipping is to continue so long as Christ hath any Church upon earth Mat. 28. 20. till the Kingdome be delivered up and God shall be all in all 1 cor 15. 28. Lastly circumcision was a Tipe of inward dipping the truth of Regeneration or the circumcision of the heart and Spirit Rom. 2. 26. to the 29. coll 2. 11. 12. And not a Type of outward Dipping Prov. 30. 6. Adde thou not to his words least he reprove thee and thou be found a lyar And Revellat 22. 22. for I testifie unto every man that heareth the words of the Prophesie of this book If any man shall adde unto these things God shall adde unto him the Plagues that are written in this book and Heb. 12. 9. Further more we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us and we gave them reverence shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of Spirits and live BEloved since part of this Treatise was in Presse there came to my hand a book set forth by P. ● which could I have gotten sooner I should have answered more fully But to touch some particulars and first of Christs not being a Widdower nor his Church without a head though I find not this expression we differ not in the matter or substance though it bee not alwaies visib●e on the earth as is cleare Rev. 6. 12. 13. 14. whereupon the opening the eight Seale heaven departed as a scroule when it is rolled together and the 11. 7. 12. the witnesses lying dead three daies and a halfe therefore the Church is not alwaies visible nor the M●nistry but for a time is hid in the Wildernesse where she is nourished for a time and times and halfe a time from the face of the Serpent Chap. 13. 3. 17. And therefore Christ is no Widdower nor his Church without a head so long as his Spouse hath a being in heaven or earth 2. We grant the Ordinance being lost none but a C●rist a Moses Elias or a Prophet from heaven can raise it but beleevers having Christ the Word Spirit have this Mat. 18 19 20 11. 11. Luke 7. 28. Rom. 10. 6 7 8. for the Scripture is as silent of Johns baptising himselfe and so others as for one After the defection of Antichrist to baptise himselfe being worse then the Apostasie of Israel And this is plaine for the Spirit doth not call them falne Israelites but Sodomites and Egyptians that were the worst of all Pagans and so of all the Gentiles Rev. 11. 2. 8. 3. Israels Apostasie d●d not race the foundation of the constitution of the Church of the Jewes for that was of an infant of Abrahams seed or a Prosselite to be circumcised Exod. 12. 48. and so long as they did this their constitution was true in the Land of Canaan Gen the 17. 10 11 12. But it is plaine that Antichrist as hee hath changed all other Ordinances both in the Church Minist●y Worship and Government Esai 24. 5. So hath he destroyed that true Apostolicall institution the matter whereof being beleevers confessing sins and faith desiring the Ordinance Matth. 3. 6. Acts 8. 36 37. to false matter of carnall infants not new-borne Babes of that everlasting Father Begotten by that immortall seed Isai 6. 9. 1 Pet. 2. 23. First being Christ Gal. 3. 29. and not a fleshly Generation for that which is borne of the flesh is flesh that have not visible Faith neither can they seale unto the Lord. John 3. 33. as all true beleevers doe for all true matter for the true church under the Gospel must know the Lord Jere. 31. 34. And be all taught of God Isai 54. 13. And therefore did the church of Rome or England Baptize beleevers onely confessing faith and sins desiring it wee would never separate from them much lesse remove their Baptizme as false because it is Gods ordinance in it selfe but so was never the sprinkling of infants 2. Whereas you say we are filled with prejudice that we have not patience to heare wee shall bee ready as we have ever beene to speake or write and concerning the vessels of the Lords House if you performe your promise I hope you will change your minde for the Vessels of the Lords House had no relation to the sprinkling of Infants as hath beene formerly answered for they were his owne Ordinance ●nd need not be new cast so long as they remained the same but the sprinkling of Infants was never And so the Argument to no purpose But put the case the Babilonians had destroyed the Lords Vessels and in stead had made them of Brasse Copper Tin or Lead whereas they were to be of pure Gold and Silver had they beene then the Lords Vessels or would his people have used them in his service and worship or brought them backe Ezra 1. 11. or would the Lord have accepted them for his owne Vessels And thus it stands in truth for the Dipping of Christ destroyed and raced out both for matter and forme as hath beene formerly shewed the matter being a beleever desiring it the true forme dipping them into Jesus Christ in the New Covenant to be visible heires Rom. 8. 17. Gallat 4. 5. Matth. 28. 20. whereas the other is but a tradition of the Church As Master Rogers in his Treatise of Baptisme sheweth that his conscience was never convinsed by any Word of God Also confest by the Jesuits in the 17 controversies Therefore though in words you denie traditions yet for the sprinkling Infants you have no better Arguments 3. Whereas you say the whole Church of ●olosse and so children being a part thereof were baptised To which I answer could you prove them Saints and faithfull brethren in Christ with experience of their love 1 Chap. 2. 14. 21 22. and 2. 11. and 3. 8. wherefore he exhorts the Church to beware least any man spoile them through Phylosophy and vaine deceit after the traditions of men after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ they being compleat in him in whom dwelleth the fulnesse of the God-head bodily being circumcised with the Circumcision made without hands and so buried with Chr●st in baptisme wherein also they were risen with him through the faith of the operation of God which was by regeneration and not generation as Christ saith John 3. 3. 5. 1 Pet. 2. 3. 1. 3. 21. Rom. 10. 10. and formerly proved having tasted that the Lord is gracious to whom comming as unto a living stone elect and pretious they as living stones are built up a Spirituall House an holy Priesthood to offer up Spirituall Sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ And whereas he saith some hold that Christ is to come and Raigne at Jerusalem wherefore hee would have had them to stay till then for the Ordinance To which I answer if the want of the visibility of the Church proveth Christ a Widdower then the state of the Church of which P. B. is a Member was unheard of within these two hundred yeares and so Christ a Widdower unlesse hee hold the Church of Rome a true Church which if he doe how dare they separate from her If not some of them being loving friends holding the same Principle how dare they raise up a State before Christ comes as they say to restore all th●ngs Lastly whereas the clothes or vestments are said to bee holy which they weare when they receive the Ordinance of Dipping they being dipt into the death of Christ for answe● hee might as well have said the clothes are holy preached unto exhorted to repentance faith and other duties that men weare when they are in their Assemblies but as is the man so is his strength and for setting our parts Judg. 8. 21. by Gods parts Ezek. 43. 8. Whether the Dipping beleevers which Christ comand or springling Infants which he commanded not be it let every wise man judge and the Spirit of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets 1 Cor. 14. 32. And for the whole houshold that he speakes of did hee but consider the Apostles first preaching to them the Word of Faith and their believing Acts 16. 31. 32. 34. This Objection is soone taken away but this hath beene sufficiently spoken to before therefore I shall leave it to Gods blessing and thy censure FINIS