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waldensis_n with_o 80._o dr._n luck_n with_o 266._o and_o cochleus_n with_o 303._o and_o then_o he_o recite_v 62._o out_o of_o waldensis_n where_o the_o word_n be_v 4._o and_o waldensis_n be_v know_v to_o be_v a_o false_a accuser_n of_o he_o in_o many_o particular_n though_o a_o learned_a papist_n 5._o and_o even_o this_o waldensis_n that_o say_v his_o worst_a and_o seek_v to_o make_v the_o most_o of_o his_o error_n never_o here_o accuse_v he_o as_o deny_v infant-baptism_n and_o will_v he_o not_o have_v do_v it_o have_v it_o be_v true_a but_o mr._n d._n that_o by_o this_o trick_n which_o he_o be_v so_o ready_a at_o can_v make_v heresy_n and_o heretic_n also_o too_o easy_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o popish_a heresy_n viz._n for_o baptism_n to_o take_v away_o all_o sin_n to_o confer_v grace_n to_o work_v regeneration_n and_o save_v the_o soul_n as_o still_o hold_v by_o they_o that_o teach_v young_a child_n to_o say_v that_o by_o their_o baptism_n they_o be_v make_v child_n of_o god_n member_n of_o christ_n and_o inheritor_n that_o be_v heir_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n answ_n 1._o by_o this_o it_o seem_v the_o english_a protestant_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n that_o take_v this_o to_o be_v true_a doctrine_n hold_v a_o popish_a heresy_n 2._o let_v the_o reader_n peruse_v gataker_n against_o davenant_n of_o baptism_n and_o he_o will_v find_v almost_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n latin_a and_o greek_a of_o the_o same_o judgement_n and_o what_o a_o pleasure_n be_v this_o to_o the_o papist_n to_o be_v tell_v that_o almost_o all_o the_o ancient_a writer_n hold_v their_o heresy_n and_o then_o indeed_o where_o be_v our_o church_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n before_o luther_n or_o rather_o before_o those_o who_o he_o oppose_v 3._o it_o be_v unquestionable_a true_a doctrine_n that_o as_o marriage-consent_n in_o private_a lay_v the_o first_o ground_n of_o marriage_n right_n which_o by_o solemn_a matrimony_n be_v open_o and_o regular_o deliver_v by_o investiture_n which_o perfect_v the_o title_n even_o so_o the_o heart-consent_n or_o covenant_v of_o the_o person_n or_o parent_n for_o infant_n do_v lay_v the_o first_o ground_n of_o christian_a right_a which_o be_v solemnize_v and_o perfect_v regular_o by_o baptism_n which_o by_o the_o way_n of_o tradition_n or_o public_a investiture_n do_v take_v away_o all_o guilt_n of_o sin_n sacramental_o regenerate_v and_o save_v and_o make_v we_o child_n of_o god_n member_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o church_n and_o heir_n of_o heaven_n who_o be_v so_o before_o by_o a_o private_a initial_a right_n of_o which_o the_o church_n do_v take_v less_o cognisance_n and_o one_o will_v think_v that_o no_o anabaptist_n shall_v deny_v this_o call_v heresy_n as_o to_o the_o adult_n 5._o he_o next_o add_v from_o wickliff_n they_o be_v fool_n and_o presumptuous_a which_o affirm_v such_o infant_n not_o to_o be_v save_v which_o die_v without_o baptism_n so_o full_a word_n it_o out_o of_o cochleus_n answ_n 1._o false_a still_o 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