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father_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr isaac_n &_o anima_fw-la cap._n 5_o tell_v we_o from_o the_o three_o chap._n of_o canticle_n and_o the_o three_o vers_fw-la videre_fw-la vers_fw-la anima_fw-la quae_fw-la deum_fw-la quaerit_fw-la transit_fw-la custodes_fw-la enim_fw-la sunt_fw-la mysteria_fw-la quae_fw-la etiam_fw-la ang._n concupiscunt_fw-la videre_fw-la that_o a_o soul_n seek_v god_n pass_v by_o the_o keeper_n for_o there_o be_v mystery_n which_o the_o angel_n themselves_o desire_v to_o look_v into_o phil._n do_v you_o then_o follow_v s._n ambrose_n direction_n in_o one_o place_n and_o i_o will_v take_v his_o advice_n in_o the_o other_o bellarmin_n bring_v the_o testimony_n of_o many_o other_o father_n of_o the_o late_a age_n of_o the_o church_n and_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o be_o almost_o tire_v in_o follow_v he_o especial_o see_v you_o so_o dextrious_o shift_v he_o off_o gregory_n nyssen_n speak_v home_o to_o the_o point_n in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o his_o oration_n opon_n theodorus_n a_o martyr_n thus_o we_o want_v many_o benefit_n do_v thou_o become_v our_o legate_n with_o the_o king_n of_o heaven_n thou_o be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o humane_a necessity_n procure_v peace_n for_o we_o that_o we_o have_v be_v safe_a and_o sound_a hitherto_o we_o ascribe_v it_o to_o thou_o if_o you_o want_v more_o assistance_n take_v in_o the_o choir_n of_o your_o brethren_n the_o martyr_n the_o prayer_n of_o many_o saint_n wash_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o nation_n and_o people_n in_o the_o like_a manner_n he_o speak_v in_o his_o panegyric_n of_o another_o martyr_n theoph._n this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o your_o purpose_n you_o need_v look_v no_o further_o but_o i_o pray_v tell_v i_o do_v you_o take_v he_o for_o a_o orator_n or_o divine_a in_o these_o passage_n be_v it_o possible_a he_o shall_v in_o earnest_n ascribe_v the_o preservation_n of_o the_o faithful_a all_o along_o unto_o this_o martyr_n &_o hope_v for_o security_n from_o he_o for_o the_o future_a and_o never_o take_v into_o consideration_n the_o divine_a protection_n be_v it_o good_a divinity_n to_o say_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o just_a wash_n away_o the_o guilt_n of_o nation_n and_o people_n and_o never_o mention_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o effectual_a intercession_n phil._n that_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v as_o the_o principal_a the_o bless_a saint_n may_v be_v instrumental_a in_o these_o blessing_n theoph._n what_o you_o suppose_v be_v one_o thing_n and_o what_o he_o express_v another_o but_o it_o be_v neither_o good_a philosophy_n nor_o divinity_n to_o entitle_v the_o effect_n unto_o the_o instrument_n and_o leave_v out_o the_o principal_a agent_n shall_v i_o make_v such_o a_o harangue_n to_o a_o artist_n tool_n &_o give_v they_o all_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o excellent_a work_n he_o will_v reckon_v i_o beside_o my_o wit_n and_o himself_o put_v beside_o his_o due_a commendation_n &_o praise_n phil._n you_o ask_v question_n instead_o of_o give_v answer_n but_o i_o have_v now_o conclude_v to_o favour_v you_o and_o not_o overlade_v you_o with_o innumerable_a testimony_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o late_a father_n perhaps_o you_o will_v except_v against_o in_o this_o point_n such_o as_o bede_n and_o anselme_n &_o bernard_n &_o damascene_fw-la &_o the_o elder_n i_o have_v hitherto_o produce_v and_o yet_o there_o remain_v two_o of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o two_o of_o the_o latin_a church_n who_o authority_n i_o will_v urge_v out_o of_o bellarmin_n in_o confirmation_n of_o this_o point_n &_o then_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o respite_n the_o greek_a father_n be_v chrysostome_n and_o theodoret_n the_o latin_a jerom_n and_o augustin_n theoph._n you_o have_v make_v a_o noble_a choice_n &_o herein_o you_o much_o oblige_v i_o whilst_o your_o wisdom_n and_o your_o zeal_n do_v prompt_v you_o to_o urge_v the_o most_o effectual_a testimony_n on_o your_o side_n that_o you_o determine_v to_o let_v the_o other_o pass_v which_o chief_o serve_v to_o fill_v up_o a_o number_n phil._n bellarmin_n quote_v a_o eminent_a passage_n out_o of_o antioch_n of_o homil._n 66_o add_v pop_n antioch_n chrysostom_n but_o we_o easy_o find_v it_o in_o his_o 26_o homily_n upon_o the_o second_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n from_o whence_o we_o suppose_v the_o homily_n be_v collect_v it_o be_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o that_o homily_n the_o word_n out_o of_o chrysostom_n be_v these_o he_o that_o wear_v purple_a go_v and_o salute_v the_o sacred_a body_n and_o lay_v aside_o his_o state_n etc._n state_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n stand_v pray_v unto_o the_o saint_n that_o they_o will_v appear_v before_o god_n in_o his_o behalf_n he_o that_o wear_v the_o diadem_n beesech_v the_o tentmaker_n and_o fisherman_n be_v dead_a to_o become_v his_o advocate_n theoph._n this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o passage_n whereunto_o we_o find_v not_o a_o second_o like_o it_o in_o all_o the_o work_n of_o chrysostom_n bellarmine_n refer_v to_o other_o pâ—â—ces_n of_o this_o father_n but_o according_a to_o his_o accoustumed_a manner_n without_o truth_n and_o reason_n it_o be_v strange_a therefore_o if_o he_o be_v of_o the_o opinion_n &_o the_o practice_n in_o his_o day_n be_v usual_a to_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n before_o their_o shrine_n that_o any_o where_o else_o he_o shall_v not_o speak_v of_o it_o and_o therefore_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o the_o original_a greek_a do_v not_o altogether_o warrant_v bellarmin_n translation_n but_o equal_o admit_v another_o which_o will_v fall_v short_a of_o his_o proof_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o signify_v stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o saint_n intercession_n as_o pray_v for_o it_o and_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o want_v their_o protection_n now_o we_o may_v stand_v in_o need_n and_o may_v reap_v the_o benefit_n of_o the_o saint_n supplication_n in_o heaven_n for_o the_o people_n of_o god_n here_o on_o earth_n &_o yet_o have_v no_o warrant_n to_o call_v upon_o
distinction_n so_o you_o have_v in_o saint_n worship_n and_o image_n worship_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o supreme_a and_o inferior_a religious_a worship_n compose_v the_o difference_n so_o christ_n be_v the_o invisible_a head_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n and_o the_o pope_n the_o visible_a and_o ministerial_a so_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n do_v not_o justify_v together_o with_o faith_n but_o good_a work_n do_v so_o you_o may_v hold_v two_o principle_n with_o the_o manichee_n for_o although_o god_n be_v the_o only_a author_n and_o creator_n of_o good_a thing_n there_o may_v be_v any_o other_o first_o principle_n of_o evil_a thing_n and_o thus_o we_o can_v have_v no_o stand_a rule_n and_o measure_n of_o truth_n and_o religion_n as_o long_o as_o the_o wit_n of_o man_n shall_v adventure_v to_o delude_v they_o by_o the_o subtlety_n of_o a_o distinction_n phil._n how_o can_v you_o attain_v to_o any_o true_a knowledge_n of_o thing_n if_o you_o take_v away_o the_o use_n of_o distinguish_v theoph._n not_o the_o use_n but_o the_o abuse_n of_o distinguish_v be_v our_o grievance_n when_o subtle_a man_n elude_v the_o most_o evident_a testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o father_n against_o they_o which_o distinction_n mint_v in_o their_o own_o brain_n and_o only_o serve_v to_o their_o present_a purpose_n phil._n our_o doctor_n excellent_o distinguish_v in_o this_o work_n of_o mediation_n namely_o that_o christ_n be_v the_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n and_o the_o bless_a saint_n be_v mediator_n between_o we_o and_o christ_n 2._o christ_n 3_o sent._n dist._n 3._o qu._n 2._o so_o bonaventure_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n she_o be_v the_o mediatrix_fw-la between_o we_o and_o christ_n as_o christ_n be_v mediator_n between_o we_o and_o god_n etc._n god_n l._n 9_o moral_a just._n c._n 10._o sancti_fw-la apud_fw-la christum_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o so_o azorius_fw-la assert_n of_o all_o the_o bless_a saint_n the_o saint_n be_v our_o advocate_n and_o patron_n with_o christ_n and_o christ_n with_o god_n and_o some_o of_o our_o doctor_n give_v a_o excellent_a reason_n of_o this_o distinction_n they_o say_v christ_n be_v not_o only_o a_o advocate_n but_o also_o a_o judge_n examine_v the_o merit_n of_o the_o supplicant_n and_o how_o shall_v a_o poor_a sinner_n come_v unto_o he_o without_o a_o intercessor_n to_o find_v acceptance_n so_o the_o etc._n the_o antonius_n 4._o sum_n titulo_fw-la 15._o deus_fw-la providet_fw-la nobis_fw-la etc._n etc._n archbishop_n of_o florence_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o god_n have_v furnish_v we_o with_o a_o advocatrix_fw-la who_o be_v gentle_a and_o sweet_a without_o any_o mixture_n of_o sharpness_n according_a to_o that_o notable_a say_n of_o s_o t_o bernard_n which_o antonius_n cite_v o_o man_n thou_o have_v a_o secure_a access_n to_o god_n where_o the_o mother_n stand_v before_o the_o son_n and_o the_o son_n before_o the_o father_n the_o mother_n show_v her_o breast_n and_o pap_n and_o the_o son_n his_o side_n and_o the_o wound_n unto_o his_o father_n theoph._n this_o be_v a_o new_a model_n of_o divinity_n to_o the_o purpose_n we_o have_v think_v the_o love_n of_o christ_n towards_o poor_a sinner_n can_v find_v no_o parallel_n that_o the_o good_a shepherd_a need_v no_o solicitation_n and_o mediation_n of_o other_o to_o bring_v home_o the_o lose_a sheep_n he_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n to_o save_v it_o we_o find_v he_o have_v gracious_o invite_v the_o weary_a and_o heavy_a lade_v to_o come_v unto_o he_o do_v you_o find_v where_o he_o put_v they_o from_o he_o since_o the_o work_n of_o our_o redemption_n be_v perfect_v the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o he_o can_v have_v compassion_n of_o our_o infirmity_n and_o be_v touch_v with_o a_o fellow_n feeling_n be_v in_o all_o point_v tempt_v like_o as_o we_o be_v yet_o without_o sin_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v come_v bold_o unto_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n that_o we_o may_v obtain_v mercy_n feb._n 4_o 15._o 16._o that_o we_o have_v a_o merciful_a and_o faithful_a high_a priest_n to_o make_v reconciliation_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o people_n heb._n 2._o 17._o that_o he_o be_v able_a to_o save_v they_o to_o the_o uttermost_a that_o come_v to_o god_n by_o he_o see_v he_o ever_o live_v to_o make_v intercession_n for_o they_o heb._n 7._o 25_o all_o this_o and_o much_o more_o we_o read_v to_o our_o unspeakable_a comfort_n but_o nothing_o of_o his_o severe_a inquisition_n and_o judge_v they_o that_o come_v to_o he_o before_o his_o second_o come_v unto_o judgement_n and_o yet_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o you_o have_v be_v too_o favouroble_v in_o the_o discovery_n this_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n work_v high_a than_o you_o have_v represent_v the_o bless_a virgin_n must_v not_o only_o entreat_v but_o command_v she_o son_n it_o be_v a_o notorious_a form_n of_o prayer_n among_o you_o impera_fw-la you_o o_o fellix_fw-la puerpera_fw-la jure_fw-la matris_fw-la impera_fw-la o_o happy_a mother_n upon_o a_o mother_n authority_n command_v thy_o son_n and_o although_o dicit_fw-la although_o ibin_n c._n 16_o quiâ—_n nostrum_fw-la hoc_fw-la dicit_fw-la bellarmin_n ask_v who_o use_v that_o form_n as_o though_o he_o be_v ignorant_a thereof_o yet_o as_o be_v conscious_a he_o immediate_o after_o exense_n and_o justify_v the_o prayer_n etc._n prayer_n si_fw-mi josh_n 10._o dicitur_fw-la obedire_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o say_v he_o if_o it_o be_v say_v joshua_n the_o 10._o the_o lord_n obey_v the_o voice_n of_o a_o man_n why_o may_v not_o after_o some_o sort_n the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v say_v to_o obey_v his_o mother_n theoph._n aliquo_fw-la modo_fw-la your_o doctor_n can_v make_v any_o thing_n good_a but_o in_o the_o first_o place_n it_o be_v not_o there_o say_v that_o the_o lord_n obey_v the_o voice_n of_o man._n so_o indeed_o your_o vulgar_a translation_n render_v it_o but_o according_a to_o the_o original_a we_o read_v it_o thus_o b_o that_o the_o lord_n hearken_v unto_o the_o voice_n of_o a_o man._n josh_n 10._o 14._o and_o so_o the_o septuagint_n and_o if_o god_n do_v obey_v the_o voice_n of_o a_o man_n yet_o we_o do_v not_o read_v that_o joshua_n do_v command_v the_o lord_n but_o only_o the_o sun_n and_o moon_n sun_n stand_v thou_o still_o in_o gibeon_n and_o thou_o moon_n in_o the_o valley_n of_o asalon_n and_o therefore_o impera_fw-la therefore_o jure_fw-la matris_fw-la impera_fw-la upon_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o mother_n command_v thy_o son_n it_o be_v intolerable_a to_o say_v so_o when_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o subject_a to_o his_o parent_n much_o more_o now_o he_o be_v ascend_v into_o glory_n you_o do_v not_o read_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n lay_v any_o command_n upon_o her_o son_n on_o earth_n phil._n you_o may_v take_v these_o as_o high_a expression_n of_o a_o devout_a soul_n manifest_v her_o confidence_n in_o the_o bless_a mother_n to_o obtain_v any_o thing_n of_o her_o son_n and_o saviour_n theoph._n such_o extatic_a devotion_n have_v lead_v many_o of_o your_o church_n beyond_o all_o reason_n and_o religion_n in_o their_o superstitious_a address_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o upon_o this_o occasion_n give_v i_o will_v insist_v more_o upon_o your_o extravagancy_n in_o the_o invocation_n and_o worship_n of_o our_o lady_n you_o salute_v her_o the_o queen_n of_o heaven_n and_o mother_n of_o mercy_n and_o so_o your_o doctor_n have_v assign_v unto_o her_o more_o than_o half_a the_o kingdom_n with_o the_o father_n as_o the_o great_a king_n abassuerus_fw-la promise_v unto_o queen_n ester_n etc._n ester_n gabriel_n biel_n supra_fw-la canon_n missae_fw-la lect_n 80._o etc._n etc._n one_o of_o your_o schoolman_n tell_v we_o that_o god_n reserve_v the_o execution_n of_o justice_n to_o himself_o have_v grant_v to_o the_o virgin_n mother_n the_o dispensation_n of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n etc._n mercy_n bernardinus_fw-la in_o svo_fw-la mariali_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o another_o we_o be_v teach_v to_o appeal_v from_o the_o bar_n of_o god_n justice_n unto_o the_o throne_n of_o mercy_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o whereas_o the_o apostle_n exhort_v to_o come_v bold_o unto_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n that_o we_o may_v obtain_v mercy_n the_o archbishop_n of_o florence_n tell_v we_o that_o etc._n that_o maria_n est_fw-la thronus_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n mary_n be_v this_o throne_n wherein_o christ_n rest_v and_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a all_o such_o shall_v be_v justify_v and_o save_v unto_o who_o she_o turnsher_n favourable_a countenance_n and_o for_o who_o she_o prove_v a_o advocate_n and_o bernardinus_fw-la further_o 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d assure_v we_o that_o etc._n that_o in_o christo_fw-la tanquam_fw-la in_o capite_fw-la influente_fw-la in_fw-la mariâ_fw-la tanquam_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o grace_n be_v in_o christ_n as_o in_o the_o head_n and_o fountain_n so_o be_v it_o in_o mary_n as_o in_o the_o neck_n transmit_v so_o that_o no_o grace_n can_v descend_v from_o
breviaries_n ibid._n c._n 17._o maria_fw-la matergratiae_fw-la mater_fw-la misericordiae_fw-la tu_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la host_n etc._n etc._n bellarmin_n tell_v we_o the_o church_n catholic_n in_o her_o hymn_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n pray_v thus_o o_o marry_o mother_n of_o grace_n mother_n of_o mercy_n do_v thou_o defend_v we_o from_o the_o enemy_n and_o and_o receive_v we_o in_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n if_o we_o may_v judge_n of_o word_n by_o their_o signification_n doubtless_o this_o prayer_n import_v more_o than_o bare_o a_o desire_n of_o her_o assistance_n by_o her_o prayer_n phil._n bellarmin_n in_o the_o same_o place_n give_v you_o a_o general_a rule_n against_o such_o sinister_a construction_n verborum_fw-la construction_n nos_fw-la non_fw-la agere_fw-la de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la at_o sensis_fw-la verborum_fw-la we_o dispute_v not_o of_o the_o word_n but_o of_o their_o sense_n now_o the_o sense_n of_o our_o church_n in_o all_o such_o petition_n be_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o saint_n by_o their_o prayer_n and_o by_o their_o merit_n will_v procure_v these_o thing_n for_o we_o theoph._n although_o this_o may_v be_v the_o sense_n of_o your_o church_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n and_o methinks_v to_o avoid_v the_o just_a occasion_n of_o scandal_n give_v to_o your_o adversary_n by_o they_o &_o the_o occasion_n of_o error_n and_o delusion_n give_v to_o your_o undiscerning_a votary_n your_o church_n shall_v have_v express_v herself_o in_o more_o inoffensive_a and_o justifiable_a term_n bellarmine_n give_v a_o 2_o do_v instance_n in_o the_o hymn_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o say_v the_o church_n pray_v thus_o etc._n thus_o quorum_fw-la praecepto_fw-la subditur_fw-la salus_fw-la &_o languor_n omvium_n sanent_fw-la aegros_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v the_o holy_a apostle_n unto_o who_o command_n both_o the_o welfare_n and_o languish_n of_o all_o man_n be_v submit_v let_v they_o heal_v we_o who_o be_v moral_o sick_a 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