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god_n through_o faith_n say_v saint_n paul_n and_o saint_n peter_n you_o be_v horn_n again_o not_o of_o a_o corruptible_a seed_n but_o of_o a_o incorruptible_a by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o our_o lord_n say_v he_o that_o shall_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v etc._n etc._n saint_n paul_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n saint_n philip_n to_o the_o eunuch_n that_o ask_v he_o if_o he_o may_v be_v baptize_v if_o thou_o believe_v thou_o may_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v sensible_a sign_n to_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v sacrament_n that_o they_o be_v sacrament_n to_o those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v confer_v that_o therefore_o they_o be_v to_o be_v sensible_a in_o the_o quality_n of_o sign_n otherwise_o they_o be_v not_o sacrament_n that_o baptism_n be_v not_o sensible_a to_o little_a child_n in_o this_o quality_n neither_o can_v afterward_o become_v so_o so_o that_o they_o must_v of_o necessity_n rely_v on_o the_o faith_n of_o other_o that_o they_o have_v be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o a_o sacrament_n unto_o they_o that_o jesus_n christ_n do_v never_o baptize_v they_o neither_o himself_n nor_o his_o apostle_n according_a to_o the_o recital_n of_o scripture_n on_o the_o contrary_a that_o the_o scripture_n seem_v to_o have_v except_v they_o express_v viros_fw-la &_o mulieres_fw-la that_o if_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a and_o lawful_a beside_o that_o those_o that_o confer_v it_o unto_o they_o profane_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o pollute_v the_o blood_n of_o the_o testament_n apply_v it_o to_o a_o matter_n uncapable_a they_o commit_v a_o other_o sacrilege_n in_o not_o reiterate_v it_o to_o they_o which_o afterward_o be_v capable_a of_o it_o and_o to_o who_o it_o be_v necessary_a if_o not_o by_o necessity_n of_o mean_n at_o least_o after_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o by_o necessity_n of_o precept_n and_o therefore_o seruet_fw-la say_fw-la that_o it_o be_v a_o impiety_n more_o than_o turkish_a and_o devilish_a and_o in_o a_o word_n if_o the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a and_o lawful_a our_o adversary_n church_n who_o have_v all_o in_o their_o infancy_n be_v baptize_v have_v no_o true_a baptism_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n for_o saint_n paul_n say_v that_o christ_n have_v purify_v his_o church_n by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n in_o his_o word_n and_o themselves_o say_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v that_o which_o have_v the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o sincere_a administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o to_o conclude_v in_o a_o word_n this_o point_n either_o they_o or_o the_o anabaptist_n be_v heretic_n for_o it_o be_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n that_o there_o be_v one_o baptism_n one_o faith_n as_o say_v saint_n paul_n and_o the_o symbol_n of_o the_o church_n say_v i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n now_o if_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n those_o which_o baptize_v they_o have_v no_o baptism_n and_o therefore_o be_v heretic_n violate_v this_o article_n of_o say_v i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n and_o if_o it_o be_v true_a baptism_n the_o anabaptist_n be_v heretic_n who_o rebaptize_v they_o for_o they_o redouble_v baptism_n against_o that_o article_n of_o faith_n i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n it_o be_v then_o necessary_a that_o one_o of_o the_o two_o side_n be_v heretical_a and_o it_o not_o be_v possible_a by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o to_o verify_v which_o of_o the_o two_o it_o be_v it_o follow_v that_o all_o heresy_n can_v be_v confute_v by_o the_o scripture_n alone_o out_o of_o which_o i_o frame_v this_o syllogism_n whatsoever_o contain_v sufficient_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n shall_v also_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v all_o the_o proposition_n pertain_v to_o the_o say_a science_n and_o to_o confute_v all_o that_o repugn_v the_o same_o now_o every_o heresy_n repugn_v the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o religion_n and_o the_o scripture_n alone_o can_v confute_v all_o heresy_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n contain_v not_o sufficient_o all_o the_o principle_n of_o doctrine_n necessary_a to_o the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o religion_n and_o therefore_o we_o must_v employ_v therein_o other_o principle_n conjoint_o with_o the_o scripture_n which_o can_v have_v authority_n in_o this_o case_n if_o they_o be_v not_o reveal_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n it_o must_v therefore_o be_v grant_v that_o beside_o the_o word_n of_o god_n write_v there_o be_v yet_o another_o part_n of_o the_o same_o word_n not_o write_v among_o which_o also_o saint_n augustin_n against_o this_o heresy_n concern_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n say_v consuetudo_fw-la matris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o baptisandis_fw-la paruulis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la spernenda_fw-la neque_fw-la omnino_fw-la recipienda_fw-la nisi_fw-la apostolica_fw-la esset_fw-la traditio_fw-la d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n thus_o be_v easy_o confute_v all_o the_o other_o reason_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o he_o bring_v forth_o after_o we_o for_o they_o be_v but_o repetition_n of_o the_o solution_n he_o give_v to_o we_o that_o baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o faith_n that_o it_o be_v call_v the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n that_o regeneration_n be_v make_v by_o faith_n and_o by_o the_o incorruptible_a seed_n of_o god_n word_n that_o saint_n philip_n say_v to_o the_o eunuch_n if_o thou_o believe_v thou_o may_v be_v save_v etc._n etc._n for_o it_o have_v be_v show_v that_o the_o child_n which_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v regenerate_v that_o this_o regeneration_n be_v do_v otherwise_o in_o they_o that_o in_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n of_o knowledge_n that_o the_o sentence_n of_o saint_n peter_n and_o s._n philip_n and_o other_o like_a be_v necessary_o understand_v of_o they_o that_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n as_o be_v all_o those_o with_o who_o the_o apostle_n have_v to_o do_v when_o they_o begin_v to_o gather_v the_o christian_a church_n to_o apply_v to_o child_n that_o which_o be_v speak_v only_o to_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n the_o consequence_n be_v as_o foolish_a as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v deprive_v child_n of_o corporal_a nourishment_n because_o the_o scripture_n say_v 3.10_o 〈◊〉_d 3.10_o he_o that_o do_v not_o work_n shall_v not_o eat_v which_o be_v necessary_o mean_v of_o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n to_o work_v how_o will_v his_o syllogism_n now_o stand_v which_o he_o frame_v thus_o whatsoever_o contain_v sufficient_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n shall_v prove_v all_o the_o proposition_n belong_v to_o the_o say_a science_n and_o to_o confute_v all_o that_o repugn_v the_o same_o but_o every_o heresy_n repugn_v the_o science_n of_o divinity_n and_o the_o scripture_n alone_o can_v not_o confute_v all_o heresy_n therefore_o it_o contain_v not_o sufficient_o all_o the_o principle_n necessary_a etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o syllogism_n be_v already_o above_o confute_v by_o the_o testimony_n even_o of_o those_o very_a same_n from_o who_o he_o pretend_v that_o the_o most_o part_n yea_o all_o the_o principle_n not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n must_v be_v take_v i_o can_v here_o add_v a_o great_a number_n of_o other_o proof_n and_o testimony_n but_o that_o i_o shun_v prolixity_n i_o will_v therefore_o only_o oppose_v two_o other_o syllogism_n i._o in_o the_o divine_a wisdom_n there_o be_v perfect_a knowledge_n of_o divinity_n 19.7.8_o 〈◊〉_d 19.7.8_o the_o holy_a holy_a scripture_n give_v this_o wisdom_n therefore_o it_o give_v the_o perfect_a knowledge_n of_o divinity_n ii_o the_o principle_n of_o a_o science_n be_v not_o contrary_a one_o unto_o another_o but_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o unwritten_a principle_n of_o the_o romish_a divinity_n repugn_v and_o destroy_v those_o that_o be_v write_v in_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n therefore_o they_o can_v not_o be_v true_a principle_n of_o true_a divinity_n the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr the_o second_o heresy_n which_o can_v be_v refute_v by_o the_o scripture_n be_v that_o of_o the_o rebaptise_v of_o heretic_n for_o there_o be_v no_o one_o place_n in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n that_o witness_v that_o the_o baptism_n which_o be_v among_o heretic_n be_v true_a baptism_n contrariwise_o there_o be_v infinite_a place_n which_o seem_v to_o repugn_v the_o same_o as_o the_o word_n of_o our_o lord_n he_o which_o shall_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v &c_n &c_n and_o that_o of_o sainte_fw-fr paul_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n whereof_o be_v conclude_v that_o see_v there_o be_v no_o faith_n among_o heretic_n and_o that_o this_o unity_n of_o faith_n of_o which_o saint_n paul_n speak_v be_v not_o find_v among_o they_o there_o be_v no_o baptism_n so_o that_o they_o which_o have_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o be_v no_o more_o baptize_v than_o those_o on_o who_o head_n by_o
in_o the_o beginning_n so_o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o make_v nor_o create_v before_o for_o if_o any_o creature_n have_v be_v before_o this_o point_n than_o it_o be_v that_o that_o shall_v have_v be_v make_v in_o the_o beginning_n by_o this_o mean_v the_o creation_n of_o angel_n be_v draw_v out_o of_o moses_n by_o a_o necessary_a and_o inevitable_a consequence_n and_o thus_o do_v thomas_n aquinas_n understand_v it_o that_o which_o the_o same_o father_n say_v in_o the_o same_o book_n â—â—_o p._n 1._o q._n 6â—_n art_n 1._o &_o â—â—_o nine_o chapter_n upon_o which_o the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr ground_v his_o reply_n do_v not_o contradict_v it_o he_o say_v their_o creation_n and_o their_o order_n be_v not_o evident_o describe_v in_o the_o constitution_n or_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n let_v our_o gnosticke_n learn_v that_o a_o consequence_n may_v be_v evident_a though_o the_o text_n be_v not_o evident_a and_o the_o evidence_n of_o this_o consequence_n upon_o this_o point_n be_v show_v as_o well_o in_o the_o place_n above_o say_v 9_o 〈◊〉_d civet_n dei_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 1._o c_o 9_o as_o in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o 9_o chapter_n which_o our_o sophister_n malicious_o geld_v suppress_v these_o word_n now_o they_o be_v not_o omit_v to_o wit_n angel_n i_o judge_v it_o by_o this_o for_o that_o it_o be_v write_v that_o god_n rest_v the_o seven_o day_n from_o all_o his_o work_v that_o he_o have_v make_v see_v the_o book_n itself_o hegin_v thus_o in_o the_o beginning_n god_n create_v heaven_n and_o earth_n so_o that_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o before_o the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n there_o be_v not_o any_o other_o thing_n create_v and_o a_o little_a after_o see_v all_o thing_n be_v dispose_v by_o the_o creation_n which_o be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v finish_v in_o six_o day_n how_o can_v the_o angel_n have_v be_v omit_v as_o if_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o work_n of_o god_n from_o which_o he_o rest_v the_o seven_o day_n these_o consequence_n seem_v necessary_a and_o 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open_a and_o naked_a to_o the_o malicious_a interpretation_n of_o particular_a spirit_n for_o these_o public_a and_o universal_a spirit_n though_o cover_v from_o top_n to_o toe_n with_o the_o armour_n of_o tradition_n behave_v themselves_o sometime_o far_o worse_a than_o simple_a particular_a man_n who_o find_v themselves_o better_a arm_v with_o four_o or_o five_o little_a stone_n take_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n than_o with_o all_o the_o sumptuous_a armour_n of_o saul_n that_o cumber_a david_n so_o 17._o 1._o sam._n 17._o that_o he_o can_v not_o go_v much_o less_o fight_v now_o to_o these_o four_o principal_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n i_o can_v add_v many_o other_o which_o in_o this_o point_n of_o the_o creation_n of_o angel_n derive_v nothing_o from_o tradition_n but_o content_v themselves_o with_o the_o consequence_n draw_v from_o the_o scripture_n but_o i_o will_v content_v myself_o with_o one_o place_n of_o epiphanius_n samos_n haeres_fw-la 65._o cont_n p._n samos_n 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they_o have_v praise_v god_n for_o the_o creation_n of_o the_o star_n thereupon_o he_o answer_v we_o can_v say_v by_o our_o own_o discourse_n the_o solution_n of_o every_o question_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o by_o conseqvence_n of_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o word_n of_o god_n note_n that_o he_o make_v no_o distinction_n between_o the_o word_n of_o god_n &_o the_o scripture_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o take_v the_o one_o for_o the_o other_o show_v clear_o that_o the_o angel_n be_v not_o make_v after_o the_o star_n nor_o before_o the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n that_o which_o be_v say_v be_v a_o thing_n manifest_o unchangeable_a that_o before_o the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n there_o be_v nothing_o create_v for_o in_o the_o beginning_n god_n create_v heaven_n and_o earth_n so_o that_o there_o be_v the_o beginning_n of_o the_o creation_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o there_o be_v nothing_o create_v afore_o then_o by_o this_o be_v manifest_a on_o which_o side_n be_v great_a surety_n and_o more_o certainty_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o this_o point_n whether_o in_o follow_v tradition_n with_o saint_n ambrose_n hierome_n and_o many_o greek_n who_o unaware_o let_v themselves_o slide_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o aristotle_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o apostolic_a tradition_n or_o in_o rely_v on_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o necessary_a &_o evident_a consequence_n draw_v from_o it_o with_o saint_n augustine_n epiphanius_n and_o some_o other_o genebrarde_n notwithstanding_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n aetat_fw-la thro'_o aetat_fw-la the_o exposition_n of_o these_o doctor_n and_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v rather_o follow_v the_o greek_n and_o other_o which_o hold_v that_o angel_n be_v not_o of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o work_n of_o the_o six_o day_n yet_o he_o be_v not_o so_o desperate_a as_o du_n perron_n who_o deny_v that_o their_o creation_n can_v be_v show_v in_o moses_n for_o he_o affirm_v that_o moses_n show_v plain_a enough_o that_o they_o be_v create_v of_o god_n when_o he_o call_v they_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n when_o he_o make_v they_o his_o minister_n and_o servant_n etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v by_o this_o only_a consequence_n of_o scripture_n â—ul_a cyril_n ado_n â—ul_a that_o saint_n cyrill_n alex._n confute_v the_o impudency_n of_o julian_n the_o apostata_fw-la of_o who_o our_o bishop_n have_v take_v this_o instance_n and_o thus_o much_o be_v speak_v concern_v their_o creation_n now_o for_o their_o distinction_n the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr say_v that_o the_o jew_n know_v it_o by_o tradition_n either_o absolute_a or_o subsidiarie_n as_o he_o call_v it_o 70_o fol._n 70_o and_o ignatius_n attribute_v to_o himself_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o order_n of_o angel_n tra._n epist_n ad_fw-la tra._n the_o difference_n of_o archangel_n virtue_n dominion_n throne_n power_n the_o magnificence_n of_o principality_n the_o excellency_n of_o the_o cherubin_n and_o seraphin_n the_o sublimity_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o reign_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o the_o uncomparable_a divinity_n of_o god_n the_o father_n almighty_a but_o s._n augustine_n confess_v here_o free_o his_o ignorance_n 85._o euch._n ad_fw-la lau._n c._n 85._o mock_v at_o those_o that_o presume_v to_o know_v it_o without_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v it_o and_o in_o the_o chapter_n follow_v he_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o need_n to_o affirm_v or_o deny_v the_o thing_n with_o danger_n since_o they_o may_v be_v deny_v without_o crime_n whence_o may_v be_v conclude_v either_o that_o the_o christian_a church_n have_v not_o be_v so_o faithful_a a_o keeper_n of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n 106._o folly_n 106._o as_o du_n perron_n say_v the_o synagogue_n be_v of_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o patriarch_n &_o prophet_n which_o let_v not_o