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A19242 The abatement of popish braggs, pretending Scripture to be theirs. Retorted by the hand of Alexander Cooke Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632. 1625 (1625) STC 5658; ESTC S108620 41,426 69

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Sorbonist finding it written at the end of S. Pauls Epistles Missa est c. bragd hee had found the Masse in his Bible And that another reading in S. Iohn 1. 42. inuenimus Messiam x drew thence the same conclusion In Salaminca a Frier tooke vpon him to proue That the name of the Virgin Mary was spoken of Gen. 1. where wee read that God called the gatherings together of the waters Maria. I doubt not but he thought it an open and euident text for his turne In another place another Frier speaking of the words Ge. 14. 18. Rex Salem panem ac vinū pertulit fell into a long discourse of the nature of Salt the nature of Salt ● beleeue he could hardly haue been perswaded that Salem there had not signified Salt Your D. Poynes who writes That it was foretold in the Old Testament That the Protestants were a malignant Church alledging for proofe thereof 2. Chr. 24. 19. where according to our vulgar Translation we read thus Mittebatque prophet as vt reuerterentur ad Dominum quos protestantes illi audire nolebant thought an hundred for one that the text was plaine And it may bee that Parish Priest of yeeres who being at controuersie with his Parishioners about pauing some plot of ground and alledging the wordes in Ier. 17. 18. to proue that he was not bound to paue any place saying Paueant illi ego non paueant was not in iest but in good earnest thinking the letter of the text made euidently for him Verily I am perswaded that that Painter whosoeuer he was who first painted Moses with a paire of hornes making him as the Iewes say like a deuil thought the text in Exod. 34. 30. where you read Faciem Moses esse cornutam Moses face was horned a plaine warrant for his picturing him so And I make no question but d they who make the world beleeue they haue the two keyes of S. Peter at Rome shewing them sometimes that they may bee adored if they were vrged to make proofe how S. Peter came by those keyes would alledge the words of the Euangelist To thee will I giue the keyes of the Kingdome of heauen as an open and euident text for that matter Pa. What adoe make you about had I wists I tell you once againe The Scriptures which I will alledge shall be plaine and the expositions such as you shall take no acceptions against For for the the truth of our expositions of holy Scripture wee haue the continuall tradition of the Church and the testimony and suffrage of all the holy Fathers and of thousands of Saints and learned men who euer expounded it as we doe and out of it gathered the selfe same doctrine and beliefe Prot. No meruaile if this be so that you sweare thē whole Colledge of your Cardinalls all your Archbishops Bishops Priests Abbats Priors Friers Graduats that they shall neuer take the Scriptures in other sense or interpret it to others in other sense then that which the Fathers gaue thereof with ioynt consent But I meruell as much that you blush not in saying as you doe as that they tremble not who administer and take such an oath for as they wittingly giue occasion of periury who administer such an oath and they periure themselues who take such an oath so you apparently speake ouer Yet seeing you are so confident let vs fall to our worke roundly And first let mee heare by you what the Scriptures are which are so plaine for the proofe of your opinions and when you haue done you shall heare by me what plaine texts may be alledged for proofe of our opinions Pa. Take then that for the first Host est corpus meum Hic est sanguis meus This is my body This is my bloud Prot. For what opinion of yours is this Scripture so plaine Pa. For the Reall presence in the Sacrament which you deny Prot. Wee beleeue as well as you That Christs flesh and bloud are truely present and truely receiued of the faithfull at the Lords Table We teach the people that Christieorpus datur accipitur manducatur in Caena The body of Christ is giuen indeed and verily and taken and eaten in the Lords Supper The question betweene vs and you is de modo about the manner of Christs presence and not de obiecto whether hee bee present or no. You say Christ is in the Sacrament really substantially corporally carnally naturally Yea you say He is there sensualiter sensibly vt manibus sacerdotum tractari velfrangi aut fidelium dentibus atteri possit so that the Priests may handle him and breake him with their hands and the faithfull may teare him with their teeth Now this manner of presence we deny and the letter of the wordes which wee alledge proues not that For Christ said This is my body and not This is my body in such a manner Caietan your Cardinall confesseth Non apparere ex Èuangelio coactivum aliquid quo possimus conuincere-haereticos ad intelligendum verba haec Hoc est corpus meum propriè sed tenendum hoc esse solùm ex authoritate Ecclesiae quae ita verba consecrationis declarat There is nothing in the Gospel whereby an Hereticke may bee inforced to expound the words This is my body properly but men are to beleeue so because the Church teacheth so And Fisher Bishop of Rochester confesseth Neque vllum hîc viz. in Matth. verbum positum est quo probetur in nostra Missa veram fieri carnis sanguinis Christi praesentiam There is not a word in S. Matthews Gospel whereby it can be proued that Christ is really present in your Sacrament Your second instance had need be plainer Pa. My second instance is plaine enough for we haue expresly The bread which I will giue is my flesh Ioh. 6. 51. Prot. For what opinion of yours are these words so plaine Pa. For the former point euen for the Reall presence in the Sacrament And yet you expound them as if no more were meant by them then that wee should haue giuen vs the signe of his flesh onely Prot. We doe not expound them so We say That the wordes are meant of Christ himselfe the word that was made flesh Ioh. 1. 14. Wee expound them not of the signe of his flesh We teach That the true bread the bread of God which came downe from heauen and giueth life vnto the world is Christ euen the flesh the very flesh of Christ that is Christ incarnate and that hee gaue vs this bread to eate not in the Sacrament but vpon the Crosse And this exposition of ours is approued for good by Gabriel Biel Lect. 84. super Canon Missae By Nic. Cusanus Epist 7. ad Bohemos By Caietan in 3. part Tho. 9. 80. Art vlt. By Ruard Tapperus in explicat Artic. 15. Louan To. 2. By Hessels lib.