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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A89135	Antichrist in man the Quakers Idol. Or a faithfull discovery of their ways and opinions by an eye and ear-witness thereof. Together with an answer and confutation of some dangerous and damnable doctrines justified, in a paper sent by them unto me: as also one of them taken with a lie in his mouth before the magistrates. / By Joshuah Miller, a servant of Christ in the work of the Gospel.	Miller, Joshua, 17th cent.	1655 (1655)	Wing M2061; Thomason E868_1; ESTC R207650	27,464	39

Christs arch enemy O beloved take heed of losing your faith on Christs satisfaction to God for you without you lest you hereby at once lose all your comfort To the sixth opinion that Christ ascended not to Heaven with the same body he had on earth though glorified Answ To this they make an equivocal answer in these words concerning Christs body as the Divel contended about the body of Moses And if thou hast ears to hear thou mayest hear the same is he that descended hath also ascended who is a spirit that saith the flesh profiteth nothing c. Consut Wherein I easily perceive they speak like the blind Oracles of Delphos which shews their hearts not right in this matter 1. They imply ye might as well say I am a Divel for disputing about Christs body for so they make the comparison 2. It seems that as the Divel nor none could find Moses body to this day Deutr. 34.6 so Christ either hath no body or else it s not to be found truly this sence I most in charity make of their words yea I have sufficient ground to beleeve that some do deny Christ ascended with his body whereas Acts 1.11 12. Men and Brethren why stand ye gazing this same Jesus which ye see go up into Heaven shall so come c. Christ ascended with a body because they saw him with their natural eyes for a spirit is not seen in that manner Our vile bodies shall be made like to his glorious body Phil. 3.21 Paul it seems knew that Christs body was glorified and affirms the resurrection of the Saints bodies to the same glory Job longs before Christ came in the flesh beleeved that he should with his eyes yea and in his flesh see the God-man Christ Jesus at last Job 19.26 there is one Mediator betwixt God and Man the man Christ Jesus 1 Tim. 2.5 mark Paul affirms it in the present tense not there was as if his humane nature was vanisht but there is still the man Christ its needlesse to spend time in proving so plain and glorious a truth but that I find some question it and others deny it yet the first fathers of this Heresie was above 1500 years agone Ap●lles a Syrian by birth taught that Christ onely ascended with his spirit and left his body to return to the earth And if Christs body did not ascend as some would have it then the bodies of the Saints shall not ascend and this must necessarily follow But as to that they give me no answer by way of justification therefore I will not treat of supposing here is sufficient delivered for confutation of six most damnable Heresies which its evident by their words they maintain unlesse they will confesse and deny in an hour as some of them have learnt the Act of dissimulation equivocation and mental reservation indifferent well already Therefore my humble request to all Gods people especially to those in the County of Glamorgan with bleeding hearts consider the Blasphemies vented forth yea and publickly owned and pleaded for by some men and shall not Ministers Preach and Pray against these things Shall Quakers have their liberty and we be deprived of ours by their revilings even in the times of our exercise In the paper they sent me they deny disputing for indeed they cannot for their mouths are full of railings so that Argumentum Baco alinum is the fittest way to deal with them As Agur said of himself may well be applied to them surely they are more brutish then any man and have not the understandings of a man Prov. 30.2 And in contending with them I have fought with beasts not at Ephesus as Paul did but at What monstrous Doctrine is this to suffer women to be Preachers by way of authority condemned as against nature Isaiah 3.12 1 Cor. 14.34 35. 1 Tim. 2.12.14 this opinion was first held by the Pepuzians that women might Preach because they wickedly affirmed Christ assumed the form of a woman and not of a man In France they allow not a woman to bee a ruler over the affairs of mens goods But with us some women will be rulers over and directers of mens consciences for so amongst the Quakers women commonly teach as wel as men 1. I wil touch now upon some of their lesse trivial matters At first they keep a stir about the Ministers going into the Pulpit saying he is a Pharisee for that verily if Ezra the Scribe was alive they would call him Pharisee also for going into his Pulpit Neh. 8.4 is not that the most convenient place for the people to hear So they quarrel about words to no purpose Paul condemns such strifes 1 Tim. 6.4 2 Tim. 2.14 avoid such contendings 2. F. G. As for thee and thou to one person its indifferent to me but when they lay a command upon it As one did in discourse with me I asked him where was the command he said the firth Commandment saith Thou shalt honour I told him the command was not to the word thou but the honouring of Parents which I feared he did not yet read John 1.51 where Christ saith you to Nathaniel Again what a noise have we about putting off the Hat with them as if respect was to be shewed to none wherein they miserably wrest that Scripture that hee who respects person finneth Which is meant principally for Magistrates and such as sit in the seat of judgement and condemns onely partiality but there is a civil respect to all men Honour all men 1 Pet. 2.17 let them read that word if they dare Levit. 19.32 Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head and honour the face of the old man and fear God it seems by this that little fear of God dwels in the heart when honour and respect is denied to the ancient seeing God calls himself the ancient of dayes Dan. 7.9 And for their horrid a buse of Christ Ministers we can best bear it seeing we should have most patience Paul did teach Timothy another lesson the Elders that rule well are worthy of double honour especially they that labour in the Word and Doctrine 1 Tim. 3.17 Heb 13.17 But all the dirt and plagues they cast on the faithfull Ministry wil fall upon their own heads for the younger not to honour the elder and ruler is threatned as a turse which I think in these men is now manifest Did not the Lord by Isdiah the Prophet complain of this that the Child shall be have himself proudly against the Antient and the Base against the Honourable Isa 3.5.6 read but what evils and Tyrannies fell on the State of the Jews after this therefore we know through grace how rightly to divide the word of truth in this case better then the Quakers for all their immediate calls 2. Tim. 2.15 Thirdly I have observed the strange kind of Apish postures they appear in sometimes like the Swine looking and bending to the earth then staning and raving like the men

them they preached faith altogether which relates to some object without men Now God willing I shall without partiallity give you my friends especially in and about Cardiffe a faithfull relation so far as I can remember of my dealings with them though I am a stranger in this County where I was called both by God and good men yet am I made the chiefest mark of their shafts I know not why unlesse it is because I formerly loved them too much therefore they will now hate the the more and my residence amongst them lays me open to their more often oppositions I did warn some amongst them to avoid the society of some whom I knew not sound in the faith yet they would plead for a liberty which I feared would in the end snare their souls which is now wofully effected I have been four times publickly railed at three times by one man whereof twice in one day at St. Andrews and Licwith at Cardiffe since that and now lately on the 16. Octob. being the Lords day at Cardiffe by a young man and two women I never met with such a railing reviling brawling spirit or heard the like they might give us as good language as the Angel did the Divel but I think they cannot bridle their tongues James 1.26 such words as these I have had from them thou Priest deceiver false Prophet hireling thou preachest nothing but lies blind guide with such a bed-role of junctives that the Oyster women of Billingsgate would blush to name O Sirs is this the spirit of Christ which is a meek sweet gentle loving spirit certainly their hearts are not very clean whose mouths are full of cursing and bitternesse yea the poyson of Asps is under their tongues Rom. 3.13 they manifest Pride and passion sufficiently the Lord rebuke them F. G. At Cardiffe on the 19 Septem 1955. In discourse with a Quaker about the Scriptures I exhorted him to own them as Gods word and it would be no dishonour to Christ he denied saying often thou liest they are not Gods word I said to deny them under this name was the way to derogate from truth and in time this will lead us next not to use them at all he gave most intollerable revilings for this that would have moved the tongue of the dumb but I bore all patiently through grace After that he held out perfection in this life from sin I told him we are free from sin onely in respect of the guilt Heb. 10.2 and power thereof Rom. 6.14 but not in respect of the seed or motion or act of sin I confest that I had sin in me he answered then thon hadst none of Christ for he that 's born of God doth not commit sin 1 John 3.9 I told him the word was doth not make sin it reigns not in him but he would admit no interpretation thereof then said I doth not the same Apostle tell us if we say we have no sin we deceive our selves and are lyars 1 John 1.8 his answer was that word was spoken by the carnal man Friends I pray take notice he calls John the Apostle a carnal man because he confessed he had sin I could not make him acknowledge that Christ ascended with his body to Heaven but he did shift and evade the same After this he came to St. Andrews and when the Sermon was ended he began publickly to rail at me in the usual terms And there denied any mediate call to the ministry charged me with a lie for saying Paul had sin after converted but I quoted the 7 Rom. 13. to prove it he would not hear but fell to the Fisher-womens weapons so I left the place but could not be rid of him Since this to silence their Rabshekah spirits I often made a challenge to dispute if they could find a man of reason or Scripture for they commonly say that Ministers preach nothing but lies and indeed they deny any Minister or Ordinances since the days of the Apostles So that by their Doctrines the blessed Martyrs in Queen Maries dayes was no Ministers Most abhominable Doctrine At last in answer to my challenge I received this Letter from a Quaker JOshuah Miller I being brought by Providences in the place where thee and Edmund Ellis were together And at my coming away thou didst boast in challenging any of us whom thou callest Quakers to dispute with thee Appoint the time and place and its like some of them whom thou in scorn callest Quakers may be with thee to know what thou hast to lay to their charge From one who is known to thee by the name of Francis Gauler Octob. 11. 1655. In answer to this because I would not shun any occasion to own the truth I instantly sent this answer following in general to any of them LET him who hath a spirit of love meeknesse and moderation void of railings and bitternesse judgings and condemnings that can bridle his tongue if any such man be among you if he will own these errors here set down and dispute for them let me know it and I shall God willing appoint the time and place 1. That the light which God hath given to every man that comes into the world is sufficient to Salvation without the help of any other means or discovery 2. That the Scriptures are not the word and mind of God to us but the conditions of them that spake them forth 3. That spirits are not to be tried by Scriptures 4. That there ought to be no sence meaning or expounding the Scriptures to the people 5. That we are not justified by faith upon Christs death and resurrection in what Christ purchased for us but by what Christ doth in us 6. That Christ ascended not into Heaven with the same humane body he had on earth though glorified 7. That the humane bodies of all men after death shal not rise again at the day of judgement He that will undertake to maintain any or all of these and will dispute them by Scripture send me word thereof F. G. Upon the next day at night I received a long Letter from the same man whereby he would seem to justifie some of the aforesaid opinions but because he could not spel my name nor write true English and much nonsence I sent the Letter back with this answer that I would receive no Papers from him for I challenged a publick dispute according to promise T. H. After this on the 13 of October came another Quaker into my house who in his Mummical posture sate down I asked him his businesse he said he came to deny that John Apostle John was not his Idol as I had told him I answered thou speakest falsely I never told thee so it seems my wife had spoken those words but his memory was not perfect hereupon I entred into discourse with him in hopes to convince him of his errours And after about two hours conference I made him recant these four opinions 1. ' That