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A14367 The ouerthrow of the iustification of workes and of the vain doctrin of the merits of men with the true affection of the iustification of faith and of the good workes that procead or come of the same, and in what respect our good workes are crouned or rewarded of God settte foorth dialoge wise by John Veron VĂ©ron, John, d. 1563. 1561 (1561) STC 24685; ESTC S112540 57,442 173

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regeneration but when in the lande of the liuinge all the corruption of our flesh shal be taken awaye we shall be perfecte neyther shall there be anye cause whye the one shall be more letted than the other frō the receyuinge of the heauenly glorye Mat. 19. Did not also our sauioure Iesus Christ promysse vnto his Apostels that they shoulde set vpon .xii. seates and iudge the .xii. tribes of Israel And did not Paule make the Corinthians 1. Cor. 6. and with them all the faythfull beleuers partakers of this rewarde when he sayeth do ye not knowe that the saynts shal iudge both the world and also the Aungels These places do playnlye take awaye all diuersityes of rewardes or degrees in glorye Obiecti ∣ on 11 ALBION Whye then doeth the Apostel say There is an other glory of the sun 1. Cor. 15. an other glorye of the moone and an other glorye of the starres For one starre differeth from an other starre in glorye so also is the resurrection of the deade Doeth not he shew here a diuersitye of rewardes and that after the blessed resurrection some shall be more gloryous than the other Aunswer PHI. Ye go cleane from the meaning of the Apostel For there he doeth proue that as the sunne and the moone beinge of one substaunce do differ in dignitye ▪ so in the resurrection oure bodyes althoughe they shall be the same in substaunce that they be now yet shal they haue more excelent qualityes than they haue nowe at this presente And that the like muste be vnderstanded of the comparison of the starres it is euident and plain by the conclusion that Paule doth inferre or bringe in sayinge The bodye is sowen in corruption and is raysed in incorruption it is sowen in dishonour and is raysed in glorye it is sowen in weakenesse and is raysed in power Wherby it doeth moste playnlye appeare that this diuersitye oughte onelye to be taken for the diuersitye that is betwixte the bodye whiche we shal put of at our death the body that shall be restored agayne neyther can anye thinge be here concluded of anye difference or dyuersity that shall be betwixt the blessed or glorifyed bodyes Luc. 20. Christe doeth onelye speake generallye of this thinge when he sayeth that we shall all be lyke vnto the Aungels Phi. 3. Agayne the holye Apostell sayeth that when oure sauioure shall come downe frome heauen he wyll chaunge and transforme oure vyle bodyes and make them lyke vnto his glorious body what diuersitye of glorye I praye you can there be when all our bodyes shall be made like vnto the gloryous bodye of Christ How be it I wil not be to precise in this matter least I shoulde seeme too affyrme anye thynge rashely To attribute anye parte of the heauenly felicity glory vnto the merits of mē it is to be iniurious vnto the glory of the grace of God Onelye this wyll I warne the Godlye of that although they do with some of the fathers graunte that there be degrees of glory in the lyfe to come yet let them beware and take hede that they doe in no wyse attribute the same vnto the merites and deseruinges of menne For that wer to do to muche iniurye and wrong vntoo the glorye of the grace of God ALBION Doeth not Paule wryte that it shall be rendred vnto euery mā according vnto his workes Again these Rom. 1. I am sure are his words we must al appear before the iudgemēt seat of Christ 2. Cor. 5. the eueri mā may receiue the thīgs which are don Obiecti ∣ on 12 in his bodye accordinge to that he hath done whether it be good or euyll These wordes do playnly testifye that euerye manne shall receaue a rewarde accordinge to his labour Aunswer PHILALE We do generallye vnderstand this of the elect and reprobate and of their glory and dampnation So doeth Paull expounde it in the Epistell to the Romayns Rom. 2. And Christ him selfe in the sentence that he shall geue at his last iudgemente doeth sufficientlye declare what this scripture meanethe when he callethe them that be at his right hande to his kyngedome and sendeth those that be at his lefte in to the fyer euerlasting that is prepared for the deuyll and his Aungelles Nowe as touching the works of the elect ye haue learned alredy that when God rewardeth them he crouneth in them his owne giftes Math. 25. But as for the reprobate thei do according so the frutes of their wycked and vnbeleuinge hartes receaue eternall dampnation which is the reward of vnbelief Non other thing can we learne of those places that ye haue aleadged ALBION I am sure ye wyll not denye Obiect 13 but that these be Daniels wordes Qui alios docent erunt vt splendor firmamenti Dau. 12. quique ad iustitiam alios instrunt vt stelle fulgebunt That is too saye They that teache other shal be as the brightnesse of the firmamente and they that instructe other vnto righteousnesse shal shyne as the starres Looke what difference there is betwixt the brightenes of the firmamente and the brightnesse of the starres the same shall be euen betwixte those that teache For they that by their dilgente teachinge shal wynne and bring manye to righteousenesse shall shyne as the brightenesse of starres the other that haue lesse laboured in the lordes vineyarde shyninge onlye as the bryghtenesse of the fyrmamente Aunswer PHILA As touchinge Daniels words where he sayeth Manye that sleepe in the duste of the earthe shall awake Tge exposition of Daniels wordes some to euerlastinge life and some to shame and perpetual contempt And they that teach shal shine as the brightnes of the firmament and thei that bringe many to righteousnes shal shine as the starres for euer euer Do make lytle or nothing for this matter For as it hapeneth many times in the scriptures in one periodus or sentence the same selfe thynges are repeted the seconde time which wer spoken first The difference that semethe here to be assigned or appoynted is of the firmamente and of the starres But syth that they that teache and thei that instructe and bringe other too righteousenesse be all one and are conteyned vnder one degree after the verye iudgemente of the aduersaryes diuers rewardes are not due vnto them syth that they laboured both in one thing Therfore it is most manifest and playn that the same is repeted agayne which was already spoken before but more playnlye AL. But why doeth Daniell make mention of the ministers or teachers rather than of the reste Question PHI. Because that aboue all other Aunswer they be subiecte to persequution and trouble and therfore they haue most nede of coumforte that they may with a good corage take vpon them this moste parilous and troublesome office and perseuere in it to the ende But it can not be proued therby that like rewardes are not promissed vnto the