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A62157 Some queries proposed, to the monethly meeting of the Quakers at Aberdeen; the sixth day of June, 1700. By Robert Sandilands With their answers thereto; together with some remarks thereupon. Published by authority. To which is prefixed a letter from George Keith, sent to the Quakers in Aberdeen, containing a very serious and Christian expostulation with his old friends, &c. Sandilands, Robert.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716. aut 1700 (1700) Wing S663; ESTC R220626 23,403 36

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