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B06703 The guide in controversies, or, A rational account of the doctrine of Roman-Catholicks concerning the ecclesiastical guide in controversies of religion reflecting on the later writings of Protestants, particularly of Archbishop Lawd and Dr. Stillingfleet on this subject. / By R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1667 (1667) Wing W3447A; ESTC R186847 357,072 413

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of_o miracle_n and_o not_o apprehensible_a by_o reason_n ego_fw-la hoc_fw-la mysterium_fw-la say_v calvin_n 17.24_o calvin_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 17.24_o minime_fw-la rationis_fw-la humanae_fw-la modo_fw-la metior_fw-la vel_fw-la naturae_fw-la legibus_fw-la sub_fw-la jicio_fw-la humanae_fw-la rationi_fw-la minime_fw-la placebit_fw-la that_o which_o he_o affirm_v penetrare_fw-la ad_fw-la nos_fw-la christi_fw-la carnem_fw-la ut_fw-la nobis_fw-la sit_fw-la alimentum_fw-la dicimus_fw-la christum_fw-la tam_fw-la externo_fw-la symbolo_fw-la quam_fw-la spiritu_fw-la svo_fw-la ad_fw-la nos_fw-la descenderd_v ut_fw-la verè_fw-la substantia_fw-la carnis_fw-la suae_fw-la animas_fw-la nostras_fw-la vivificet_fw-la in_o his_o paucis_fw-la verbis_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la sentit_fw-la multa_fw-la subesse_fw-la miracula_fw-la plusquam_fw-la stupidus_fw-la est_fw-la quando_fw-la nihil_fw-la magis_fw-la incredibile_fw-la quam_fw-la res_fw-la toto_fw-la coeli_fw-la &_o terrea_fw-la spatio_fw-la dissitas_fw-la ac_fw-la remotas_fw-la in_fw-la tanta_fw-la locorum_fw-la distantiâ_fw-la non_fw-la tantùm_fw-la conjungi_fw-la sed_fw-la uniri_fw-la ut_fw-la alimentum_fw-la percipiant_fw-la animae_fw-la ex_fw-la carne_fw-la christi_fw-la and_o §_o 32._o porrò_fw-la de_fw-la m●do_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la i_o interroget_fw-la fateri_fw-la non_fw-la pudebit_fw-la sublimius_fw-la esse_fw-la arcanum_fw-la quàm_fw-la ut_fw-la vel_fw-la meo_fw-la ingenio_fw-la comprehendi_fw-la vel_fw-la enarrari_fw-la verbis_fw-la queat_fw-la and_o §_o 25._o captivas_fw-la tenemus_fw-la mentes_fw-la nostras_fw-la ne_fw-la verbulo_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la obstreper_n ac_fw-la humiliamus_fw-la ne_fw-la insurgere_fw-la audeant_fw-la and_o in_o his_o confession_n of_o faith_n 572._o faith_n lib._n epl_n p._n 572._o not_o fatemur_fw-la omnino_fw-la rationem_fw-la quâ_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la communicanus_fw-la ad_fw-la miraculum_fw-la referendam_fw-la esse_fw-la therefore_o as_o these_o protestant_n charge_v the_o roman_a transubstantiation_n with_o contradiction_n absurdity_n impossibility_n so_o do_v the_o zwinglians_n remonstrant_n socinian_n as_o free_o charge_v their_o real_a presence_n see_v the_o remonstrant_n apology_n c._n 23._o who_o thus_o dispute_v against_o they_o quomodo_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la credibile_fw-la sed_fw-la possibile_fw-la esse_fw-la imo_fw-la quomodo_fw-la non_fw-la impossibile_fw-it adeoque_fw-la absurdum_fw-la videri_fw-la '_o debet_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la &_o manet_fw-la in_o coelis_fw-la &_o non_fw-la alibi_fw-la veer_fw-la communicari_fw-la nobis_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o terrâ_fw-la sumus_fw-la &_o non_fw-la alibi_fw-la ita_fw-la ut_fw-la nobis_fw-la cedat_fw-la in_o cibum_fw-la and_o afterward_o p._n 251._o they'say_n omnia_fw-la ista_fw-la non_fw-la modò_fw-la obscura_fw-la &_o incomprehensibilia_fw-la esse_fw-la sed_fw-la manifestè_fw-la etiam_fw-la inse_v continere_fw-la tum_fw-la vanitatem_fw-la tum_fw-la absurditatem_fw-la et_fw-la ineffabilia_fw-la illa_fw-la mysteria_fw-la humanam_fw-la seu_fw-la curiositatem_fw-la seu_fw-la superstitionem_fw-la in_fw-la hoc_fw-la tam_fw-la simplici_fw-la tam_fw-la plano_fw-la &_o a_o nullo_n non_fw-la ingenio_fw-la facile_fw-la perceptibili_fw-la ritu_fw-la finxisse_fw-la potius_fw-la quàm_fw-la reperisse_fw-la qui_fw-la postquam_fw-la a_o simplici_fw-la scripturae_fw-la phrasi_fw-la semel_fw-la discesserunt_fw-la admirationibus_fw-la inexhaustis_fw-la se_fw-la pascere_fw-la malunt_fw-la quàm_fw-la clarâ_fw-la veritatis_fw-la scientiâ_fw-la and_o the_o socinian_o accuse_v this_o opinion_n of_o the_o calvinist_n and_o english_a church_n 22_o church_n volkel_n l_o ●_o c._n 22_o eam_fw-la cum_fw-la sanae_fw-la mentis_fw-la ratione_fw-la pugnare_fw-la quae_fw-la dictat_fw-la fieri_fw-la