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very_a sacrament_n to_o wit_n the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o receive_v the_o true_a spiritual_a effect_n thereof_o which_o be_v grace_n and_o nourishment_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o of_o these_o do_v s._n paul_n speak_v express_o to_o the_o corinthian_n when_o he_o say_v he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o videlicet_fw-la the_o sacrament_n do_v eat_v and_o drink_v judgement_n to_o himself_o not_o discerninge_v the_o body_n 11._o of_o our_o lord_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n do_v the_o ancient_a father_n upon_o this_o place_n expound_v the_o apostle_n as_o you_o may_v see_v in_o the_o commentary_n of_o saint_n chrysostome_n s._n ambrose_n s._n anselme_n and_o other_o expositor_n 8._o both_o greek_a and_o latyn_n and_o s._n austen_n in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o work_n do_v express_o show_v the_o same_o alleaginge_v this_o text_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o proof_n thereof_o corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la say_v 10._o he_o &_o sanguis_fw-la domini_fw-la nihilominus_fw-la erat_fw-la illus_fw-la quibus_fw-la dicebat_fw-la apostolus_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v notwithstanding_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o they_o take_v to_o who_o the_o apostle_n say_v he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o eat_v and_o drink_v his_o own_o damnation_n and_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n he_o say_v in_o diverse_a other_o place_n that_o judas_n receive_v the_o very_a selfsame_o body_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o other_o apostle_n do_v and_o the_o same_o affirm_v s._n chrysostome_n in_o his_o homily_n entitle_v of_o the_o treason_n of_o judas_n &_o general_o it_o be_v the_o uniform_a opinion_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n whensoever_o any_o occasion_n be_v give_v to_o speak_v or_o treat_v thereof_o 48._o the_o second_o manner_n of_o receive_v christ_n by_o this_o sacrament_n be_v term_v spiritual_o only_a for_o that_o without_o sacramental_a receavinge_v of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n a_o man_n may_v in_o some_o case_n receive_v the_o spiritual_a fruit_n or_o effect_n thereof_o as_o if_o he_o have_v receive_v the_o same_o real_o and_o this_o either_o with_o relation_n to_o the_o sacrament_n videlicet_fw-la when_o a_o man_n have_v a_o desire_n to_o receive_v it_o actual_o but_o can_v or_o without_o reference_n thereunto_o when_o by_o faith_n and_o grace_n good_a man_n do_v communicate_v with_o christ_n and_o participate_v the_o fruit_n of_o his_o passion_n in_o which_o sense_n of_o spiritual_a communion_n or_o eat_v christ_n s._n austen_n joan._n write_v upon_o s._n johns_n gospel_n crede_fw-la &_o manducasti_fw-la believe_v and_o thou_o have_v eat_v and_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n do_v our_o father_n often_o speak_v when_o they_o treat_v of_o this_o spiritual_a &_o metaphorical_a eat_n only_o without_o relation_n to_o the_o sacramet_n which_o manner_n of_o speech_n the_o sacramentarye_n of_o our_o day_n do_v seek_v to_o abuse_v as_o though_o there_o be_v no_o other_o eatinge_v of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o by_o faith_n alone_o which_o be_v further_a of_o from_o the_o say_v father_n meaning_n though_o sometime_o they_o have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v in_o that_o manner_n 49._o the_o three_o member_n of_o our_o former_a division_n be_v to_o eat_v christ_n both_o sacramental_o and_o spiritual_o as_o all_o good_a christian_n do_v when_o with_o due_a preparation_n &_o disposition_n they_o receive_v both_o the_o outward_a sacrament_n and_o inward_a grace_n and_o fruit_n thereof_o by_o observation_n of_o which_o threefold_a manner_n of_o receive_v many_o objection_n and_o heretical_a cavillation_n will_v easy_o afterward_o be_v discern_v and_o so_o much_o for_o this_o the_o ten_o observation_n touchinge_v indignity_n and_o inconvenience_n object_v by_o sacramentarye_n against_o we_o in_o holdinge_v the_o real_a presence_n §._o 10._o 50._o as_o by_o the_o former_a objection_n of_o natural_a impossibilitye_n you_o have_v hear_v 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