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The knowledge De genes ad lit lib. 4. Where hee calleth it morning when the Angells by contemplating of the creation in themselues where is deepe darkenesse lift vp themselues to the knowledge of God and if that in him they learne all things which is more certaine then all habituall knowledge then is it day It growes towards euening when the Angels turne from God to contemplate of the creatures in themselues but this euening neuer becommeth night for the Angells neuer preferre the worke before the worke man that were most deepe darke night Thus much out of Augustine the first mentioner of mornings euenings knowledges What wee must thinke of Gods resting the seauenth day after his sixe daies worke CHAP. 8. BVt whereas God rested the seauenth day frō al his workes sanctified it this is not to be childishly vnderstood as if God had taken paines he but spake the word and a by that i●…telligible and eternal one not vocall nor temporal were all things created But Gods rest signifieth theirs that rest in God as the gladnesse of the house signifies those y● are glad in the house though some-thing else and not the house bee the cause thereof How much more then if the beauty of the house make the inhabitants glad so that wee may not onely call it glad vsing the continent for the contained as the whole Thea●…er applauded when it was the men the whole medowes bellowed for the Oxen but also vsing the efficient for the effect as a merry epistle that is making the readers merry The●…fore the scripture affirming that God rested meaneth the rest of all things in God whom he by himself maketh to rest for this the Prophet hath promised to all such as he speaketh vnto and for whom he wrote that after their good workes which God doth in them or by them if they first haue apprehended him in this life by faith they shal in him haue rest eternal This was prefigured in the sanctification of the Saboath by Gods command in the old law whereof more at large in due season L. VIVES BY a that intelligible Basil saith that this word is a moment of the will by which wee conceiue better of things What is to be thought of the qualities of Angels according to scripture CHAP. 9. NOw hauing resolued to relate this holy Cities originall first of the angels who make a great part thereof so much the happier in that they neuer a were pilgrims let vs see what testimonies of holy wri●…t concerne this point The scriptures speaking of the worlds creation speake not plainly of the Angels when or in what order they were created but that they were created the word heauen includeth In the beginning God created heauen and earth or rather in the world Light whereof I speake now are there signified that they were omitted I cannot thinke holy writ saying that God rested in the seauenth day from all his workes the same booke beginning with In the beginning God created heauen and earth to shew that nothing was made ere then Beginning therefore with heauen earth and earth the first thing created being as the scripture plainely saith with-out forme and voide light being yet vn made and darknesse being vpon the deepe that is vpon a certaine confusion of earth and waters for where light is not darknesse must needes be then the creation proceeding and all being accomplished in sixe dayes how should the angels bee omitted as though they were none of Gods workes from which hee rested the seuenth day This though it be not omitted yet here is it not plaine but else-where it is most euident The three chil●… sung in their himne O all yee workes of the Lord blesse yee the Lord amongst which they recken the angels And the Psalmist saith O praise God in the heauens 〈◊〉 him in the heights praise him all yee his angells praise him all his hoasts praise 〈◊〉 s●…e and Moone praise him sta●…res and light Praise him yee heauens of heauens 〈◊〉 the waters that be aboue the heauens praise the name of the Lord for hee spake the 〈◊〉 and they were made he commanded they were created here diuinity calls the ●…ls Gods creatures most plainly inserting them with the rest saying of all He sp●…ke the word and they were made who dares thinke that the Angels were made after the sixe daies If any one bee so fond hearken this place of scripture confounds him vtterly e When the starres were made all mine angels praised mee with a loude voice Therefore they were made before the starres and the stars were made the fourth day what they were made the third day may wee say so God forbid That dayes worke is fully knowne the earth was parted from the waters and two ●…nts tooke formes distinct and earth produced all her plants In the second day then neither Then was the firmament made betweene the waters aboue and below and was called Heauen in which firmament the starres were created the fourth day c Wherefore if the angels belong vnto Gods sixe dayes worke they are that light called day to commend whose vnity it was called one day not the first day nor differs the second or third from this all are but this one doubled v●…to 6. or 7. sixe of Gods workes the 7. of his rest For when God said Let there be light there was light if we vnderstand the angels creation aright herein they are made partakers of that eternall light the vnchangeable wisdome of God all-creating namely the onely be gotten sonne of God with whose light they in their creation were illuminate and made light called day in the participation of the vnchangeable light day that Word of God by which they all things else were created For the true light that lightneth euery man that cōmeth into this world this also lightneth euery pure angell making it light not in it selfe but in God from whom if an Angell fall it becommeth impure as all the vncleane spirits are being no more a light in God but a darknesse in it selfe depriued of all perticipation of the eternall light for Euill hath no nature but the losse of good that is euill L. VIVES NEuer were a pilgrims But alwayes in their country seeing alwayes the face of the father b When the starres Iob. 38 7. So the Septuagints doe translate it as it is in the te●…t c Wherefore if The Greeke diuine put the creation of spirituals before that of things corporall making God vse them as ministers in the corporall worke and so held Plato Hierome following Gregorie and his other Greeke Maisters held so also But of the Greekes Basil and Dionysius and almost all the Latines Ambrose Bede Cassiodorus and Augustine in this place holds that God made althings together which agreeth with that place of Ecclesiasticus chap. 18. vers 1. He that liueth for euer made althings together Of the vncompounded vnchangeable Trinity the Father the Sonne
so shee was indeed both these and withall of such beauty that she was amiable euen at those years L. VIVES A Shower a of fire Of this combustion many prophane authors make mention Strabo saith that cities were consumed by that fire as the inhabitāts thereabout report the poole that remaineth where Sodome stood the chiefe city is sixty furlongs about Many of thē also mention the lake Asphalts where the bitumen groweth b Apiller Iosephus saith he did see it Of Isaac borne at the time prefixed and named so because of his parents laughter CHAP. 31. AFter this Abraham according to Gods promise had a son by Sarah and called him Isaac that is Laughter for his father laughed for ioy and admiration when he was first promised and his mother when the three men confirmed this promise againe laughed also betweene ioye and doubt the Angell shewing her that her laughter was not faithfull though it were ioyfull Hence had the child his name for this laughter belonged not to the recording of reproach but to the celebration of gladnesse as Sarah shewed when Isaac was borne and called by this name for she said God hath made me to laugh and all that heare me will reioyce with me and soone after the bond-woman and her son is cast out of the house in signification of the old Testament as Sarah was of the new as the Apostle saith and of that glorious City of God the Heauenly Ierusalem Abrahams faith and obedience proo●… in his intent to offer his sonne Sarahs death CHAP. 32. TO omit many accidents for brenities sake Abraham for a triall was commanded to goe and sacrifice his dearest sonne Isaac that his true obedience might shew it selfe to all the world in that shape which GOD knew already that it bate This now was an inculpable temptation and some such there bee and was to bee taken thankfully as one of Gods trialls of man And generally mans minde can neuer know it selfe well but putting forth it selfe vpon trialls and experimentall hazards and by their euents it learneth the owne state wherein if it acknowledge Gods enabling it it is godly and confirmed in solidity of grace against all the bladder-like humors of vaine-glory Abraham would neuer beleeue that God could take delight in sacrifices of mans flesh though Gods thundring commands are to bee obeyed not questioned vpon yet is Abraham commended for hauing a firme faith and beleefe that his sonne Isaac should rise againe after hee were sacrificed For when he would not obey his wife in casting out the bond-woman and hir sonne God said vnto him In Isaac shall thy seede bee called and addeth Of the bond-womans sonne will I make a great nation also because hee is thy seede How then is Isaac onely called Abrahams seede when God calleth Ismael so likewise The Apostle expoundeth it in these words that is they which are the children of the flesh are not the children of God but the children of the promise are accounted for the seede And thus are the sonnes of promise called to be Abrahams seede in Isaac that is gathered into the Church by Christ his free grace and mercy This promise the father holding fast seeing that it must bee fulfilled in him whom God commanded to kill doubted not but that that God could restore him after sacrificing who had giuen him at first beyond all hope So the Scripture taketh his beleefe to haue beene and deliuereth it By faith a Abraham offered vp Isaac when hee was tryed and hee that had receiued the promises offered his onely sonne to whom it was said in Isaac shall thy seede bee called for hee considered that God was able to raise him from the dead and then followeth for when hee receiued him also in a sort in what sort but as hee receiued his sonne of whom it is said Who spared not his owne sonne but gaue him to dye for vs all And so did Isaac carry the wood of sacrifice to the place euen as Christ carried the crosse Lastly seeing Isaac was not to be slaine indeed and his father commanded to hold his hand who was that Ram that was offered as a full and typicall sacrifice Namely that which Abraham first of all espied entangled b in the bushes by the hornes What was this but a type of Iesus Christ crowned with thornes ere hee was crucified But marke the Angels words Abraham saith the Scriptures lift vp his hand and tooke the knife to kill his sonne But the Angell of the Lord called vnto him from heauen saying Abraham and he answered Here Lord then he said Lay not thy hand vpon thy sonne nor doe any thing vnto him for now I know thou fearest God seeing that for my sake thou hast not spared thine onely sonne Now I know that is now I haue made knowne for God knew it ere now And then Abraham hauing offered the Ram for his sonne Isaac called the place c the Lord hath seene as it is said vnto this day in the mount hath the Lord appeared the Angels of the Lord called vnto Abraham againe out of heauen saying By my selfe haue I sworne saith the Lord because thou hast done this thing lust not spared thine onely sonne for me surely I will blesse thee multiply thy seed as the starres of heauen or the sands of the sea and thy seed shal possesse the gate of his enemies and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed because thou hast a obayed my voyce This is that promise sworne vnto by God concerning the calling of the Gentiles after the offering of the Ram the type of Christ. God had often promised before but neuer sworne And what is Gods oth but a confirmation of his promise and a reprehension of the faithlesse after this died Sara being ahundred twenty seauen yeares old in the hundred thirty seauen yeare of her husbands age for hee was ten yeares elder then she as he shewed when Isaac was first promised saying shall I that am a hundred yeares old haue a child and shall Sarah that is foure score and tenne yeares old beare and then did Abraham buy a peece of ground and buried his wife in it and then as Stephen sayth was hee seated in that land for then began hee to be a possessor namely after the death of his father who was dead some two yeares before L. VIVES BY a faith A diuersity of reading in the text of Scripture therefore haue wee followed the vulgar b in the bushes This is after the seauenty and Theodotion whose translation Hierome approues before that of Aquila and Symachus c The Lord hath seene The Hebrew saith Hierome is shall see And it was a prouerbe vsed by the Hebrewes in all their extremities wishing Gods helpe to say In the mount the Lord shall see that is as hee pitied Abraham so will hee pitty vs. And in signe of that Ramme that God sent him they vse vnto this day to blow
had the spirit of prophecy She was called in Greeke Thespiodon in Latine Carmente Dionys. Of hir Ouid saith Ipsa Mone quae nom●…n habes de carmine dictum Qu●… simul ●…thereos animo conc●…perat ignes Ore dab●… pleno carmina vera Dei And thou that from the verse deriues thy name And againe And being filled with aeth●…iall fyre She spake as Phaebus did her breast inspire There was the gate Carmentall in Rome called afterwards Scelerata and neare to it an Altar in the Capitoll where shee was placed There were also the Carmenae which told the destiuies of new borne children whence Nicostrata had hir name Varro They were also called 〈◊〉 and Camaenae without S. and they that honoured them were called Prophets of their prophecies There was also Faunus and Fauna brother and sister he-mens fortune-teller and she-womens q Rumina goddesse of dugs Plin. Fest. There-was the fig-tree Ruminall where the she-wolfe gaue Romulus and Remus sucke They offered milke and sprinckled the sacrifices with milke that were offered to this goddesse r Potina Or Potica Donat. in Terentii Phormio The children were consecrated to Educa Potica and Cuba goddesses of meate drinke and sleep Virg. Nec Deus hunc M●…nsa dea nec dignata cubili est Nor would the god giue meat nor goddesse sleepe s Educa Not Edulica t Venilia Turnus his mother sister to Latinus his wife Amat●… Venilia of Ventus winde or of Venio to come Varro u Cumanae Cumanae were the Muses of Cano to sing Seru. or Cumaenae of Casta mens a chast minde saith Festus Their Temple was at Port Capena in the first ward or region of the citty Camaena in Latine is Musa in Greeke They ruled humanity and learning as wel as song Cic. Tus. quaest 1. They were called Muses of inquiring 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and of Phylosophy x Consus This was Hippoposeidon Li●… Dion Plut. The Arcadians built him a Temple before Romulus and Remus calling him y● god of Counsels Wherfore his Altar neuer came out of the earth where it lay hidde but only at his feast He directed Romulus in the rape of the Sabines the Greekes say he strucke the earth with his mase and it brought forth the first horse and thence hath he his name True it is that he first tamed horses in those parts add made them fit for mans vse y Sentia Or Senta or Fauna o●… Fatua sister and wife to Faunus daughter to Picus So called à Fando because shee helped children to speake Senta because we speake our thoughts But this is but coniecturall we leaue it with the rest z Iuuaentas Of hir hereafter a Degrees from youth The text is Post praetexta●… Pr●…texta was a vesture of dignity and magistracy brought from Hetruria to Rome not wo●…e by boies vntill Tarquinius Priscus his son had the wearing of that and the golden Bosse for being valorous in the wars from that time all free children wore it mary the Bosse was only theirs whose fathers had bin Head-Officers Curules Macrob. At fourteene yeares they laid it by an●… took y● mans gowne Toga virilis the Senators sons the Latus clauus which some say Augustus first put on at y● age the Latus Clauus was a purple coat but not a gown b Fortuna ba●…bata The men of old offered y● first shauings of their chins vnto Apollo as Theseus did for one going to Delos Plutarch c Mutinus Some ad Tutinus but it hath bin the falt of som copier 〈◊〉 old so he hath passed vn-obserued I do not think it was Augustins for in his 6. book he vs●… but Priapus for both these Lactantius readeth it well Mutinus though some of his 〈◊〉 haue Futinus d One soule Plato Cicero and the Stoicks held the world to be but one creature and to liue one life as a man liueth Of their opinion that held God to bee the soule and the world to bee the bodie CHAP. 12. WHat of this Ought not this to moue the sharpest wittes nay all in generall For indeed there is no great sharpnesse of wit required to the laying aside of all wrangling and to attend but whether God be the worlds soule or no and whether the world his body or no both making one creature whether he be natures a store-house containing all things in him-selfe whether that out of his b soule that animateth al this whole masse the liues and beings of all liuing creatures be taken or no each one according to their natures and whether that there bee nothing on earth which is not part of God If this were true marke but the irreligious consequence hereof A man if it were so should not tread but still hee treades part of God vnder his feete and in euery creature that he killed he should kill a part of the Deitie I will not relate what others may thinke vpon I cannot speake it without exceeding shame L. VIVES NAtures Store-house Lucan Placido natura receptat Cuncta finu b Soule A Pythagoricall sentence which Virgill expresseth Principio calum terras composque liquentes Lucen●…●…bum lunae Titaniaque astra Spiritus ●…lit totamque infu●…a per artus M●…s agitat ●…olem magno se corpore miscet Heauen Earth and Sea each in his proper bound The moones bright globe and all the spangled round A spirit within doth feed doth moue and passe Through euery parcell of this spacious masse And likewise in his Georgikes lib. 4. His quidam signis atque haec exempla secu●…i Esse apibus partem diuinae mentis ha●…stus Ethereo●… dixére Deum namque ire per omnes Terrasque 〈◊〉 maris Caelumque profundum Hinc pecud●…s armenta viros genus omne serarū Quem que sibi tenu●…s nascentem arescere vitas Scilicet huc reddi deinde resoluta referri Omni●…●…orti esse locum sed vi●…a volare Sider is i●… numerum atque alto succedere caelo c. These signes made some affirme that in a Bee Was part of that celestiall Deity For Gods diffused essence doth appeare Regent in earth aire sea and euery sphere To which for life beasts birds and men do runne And when their slender vitall threed●…s are spunne To this they all returne death hath no right To ought of this but to the starry height They t●…wre and there sit ranckt in heauens high frame c. c According to Some more some lesse and some lesser The nearer him the more the farther the lesse This is the opinion of many and amongst others of Aristotle de mundo Of such as hold that the reasonable creatures onely are parts of the diuine essence CHAP. 13. IF they say indeed that all things in the whole world do not participate essence with God but yet all reasonable creatures doe truly I cannot see how that can stand Then all the world is not God for otherwise how can they keepe brute
for the thing it selfe and a flaggon a set in Libers 〈◊〉 to signifie wine taking the continent for the contained so by that hu●… shape the reasonable soule in the like included might bee expressed of 〈◊〉 ●…ure they say that God or the gods are These are the mysticall doctrines 〈◊〉 ●…is sharpe witt went deepe into and so deliuered But tell mee thou acc●…n hast thou lost that iudgement in these mysteries that made thee say that they that first made Images freed the Cittie from all awe and added error to error and that the old Romaines serued the gods in better order without any statues at all They were thy authors for that thou spokest against their successors For had they had statues also perhaps feare would haue made thee haue suppressed thy opinion of abolishing Images and haue made thee haue sought further for these vaine Mythologies and figments for thy soule so learned and so ingenious which we much bewaile in thee by being so ingratefull to that God by whom not with whom it was made nor was a part of him but a thing made by him who is not the life of all things but all lifes maker could neuer come to his knowledge by these mysteries But of what nature and worth they are let vs see Meane time this learned man affirmeth the worlds soule intirely to bee truly God so that all his Theologie being naturall extendeth it selfe euen to the nature of the reasonable soule Of this naturall kinde hee speaketh briefly in his booke whence we haue this wherein wee must see whether all his mysticall wrestings can bring the naturall to the ciuill of which he discourseth in his last booke of the select Gods if he can all shall be naturall And then what need hee bee so carefull in their distinction But if they be rightly diuided seeing that the naturall that he liketh so of is not true for hee comes but to the soule not to God that made the soule how much more is the ciuill kinde vntrue and subiect that is all corporall and conuersant about the body as his owne interpretations being dilligently called out shall by my rehearsall make most apparent L. VIVES FLaggon a Oenophorum of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wine and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to carry Iuuenall vseth the word Sat. 6. and Apuleius Asin. l. 2. 8. and Martiall Pliny saith it was a worke of the rare painter Praxitales but he meanes a boy bearing wine Beroaldus out of this place gathereth that they vsed to set a flaggon of wine in Bacchus temple It is more then hee can gather hence though it may be there was such an vse Of Varro his opinion that God was the soule of the world and yet had many soules vnder him in his parts all which were of the diuine nature CHAP. 6. THe same Varro speaking further of this Physicall Theology a saith that he holds God to be the soule of the world which the Greekes call 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and b that this world is God But as a whole man body and soule is called wise of the soule onely so is the world called God in respect of the soule onely being both soule and body Here seemingly he confesseth one God but it is to bring in more for so he diuides the world into heauen and earth heauen into the ayre and the skie earth into land and water all which foure parts he filles with soules the skye c highest the ayre next then the water and then the earth the soules of the first two hee maketh immortall the latter mortall The space betweene the highest heauen and the Moone hee fills with soules ethereall and starres affirming that they both are and seeme celestiall Gods d Betweene the Moone and the toppes of the windes he bestoweth ayry soules but inuisible saue to the minde calling them Heroes Lares and Genij This he briefly recordeth in his prologue to his naturall Theologie which pleased not him alone but many Philosophers more whereof with Gods helpe we will discourse at full when wee handle the ciuill Theologie as it respecteth the select gods L. VIVES THeology a saith The Platonists Stoiks Pythagorians and the Ionikes before them all held God to bee a soule but diuersly Plato gaue the world a soule and made them conioyned god But his other god his Mens he puts before this later as father to him The Stoikes and hee agree that agree at all Thales and Democritus held the worlds soule the highest god b That this Plato the Stoikes and many Phylosophers held this c Skie the highest Aristotle puts the fire aboue the ayre and the heauen the Platonists held the heauen to be fiery and therefore called Aether And that the ayre next it was a hurtlesse fire kindled by it This many say that Plato held●… following Pythagoras who made the vniuersall globe of 4. bodies But Uarro heere maketh ayre to be next heauen as the Stoikes did especially and others also Though the Plato●… and they differ not much nor the Peripatetiques if they speak as they meane and be rightly vnderstood But aether is the aire as well as the skie and fire as caelum is in latine Virgil. Illa leuem fugiens raptim secat aethera pennis With swift-wing'd speede she cuts the yeelding aire a 〈◊〉 the moone The first region of the Ayre Aristotle in his Physicks ending at the toppe of the cloudes the second contayning the cloudes thunder rayne hayle and snow●… the 〈◊〉 from thence to the Element of fire Whether it stand with reason that Ianus and Terminus should bee two godees CHAP. 7. I 〈◊〉 therfore whome I begun with what is he The a world Why this is a plaine and brief answer but why hath b he the rule and beginnings then and another one Terminus of the ends For therfore they haue two c months dedicated to them Ianuary to Ianus and February to Terminus And so the d Termina●… then kept when the e purgatory sacrifice called f Februm was also kept 〈◊〉 the moneth hath the name Doth then the beginning of things belong to the ●…ld to Ianus and not the end but vnto another Is not al things beginning 〈◊〉 world to haue their end also therein What fondnesse is this to giue him 〈◊〉 ●…se a power and yet a double face were it not better g to call that double-faced statue both Ianus and Terminus and to giue the beginnings one face and the 〈◊〉 another because he that doth an act must respect both For in all actions 〈◊〉 that regardeth not the beginning fore-seeth not the end So that a respectiue memory and a memoratiue prouidence must of force go together But if they imagine that blessednes of life is but begun and not ended in this world and that therefore the world Ianus is to haue but power of the beginnings why then they should put Terminus amongst the selected gods before him For though they were both imploied about one subiect yet Terminus should haue
VIVES MErcury a There were fiue Mercuries Cicero The first sonne to Caelus and Dies the second to Valens and Pheronis this is he that is vnder the carth calleth otherwise Tryphonius third sonne to Ioue and Maia fourth father to Nilus him the Egiptian held it sacriledge to name 5. Hee that the Pheneates worshipped hee killed Argus they say and therefore gouerned Egipt and taught the Egiptians lawes and letters They call him Theut Thus farre Tully Theut is named by Plato in his Phaedon and Euseb. de praeparat Euang. lib. 1. who saith the Egiptians called him Thoyth the Alexandrians Thot the Greekes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and that he first taught letters and looked into the secrets of Theology Diodorus saith hee first inuented spelling of words and giuing of names to things as also rites and ceremonies Lib. 1. for the wordes Horace d●… testifie it out of Alcaeus and therefore the Egiptians thought him the inuentor and god of languages calling him the interpreter of God and men both because hee brought religion as it were from the gods to men and also because the speech and praier passeth from men to the gods with which is no commerce Thence comes Aristides his fable there was no commerce nor concord between man and man vntill Mercury had sprinkled them with language and the inuenting of letters missiue was a fit occasion to make them thinke that hee was a god hauing power by their secrecy to dispatch things with such celerity b The speech onely Mercury they say is the power of speech and is faigned to bee straight seeing the tongue runnes so smoothe but in a set speech some will haue a solar vertue which is Mercury others a Lunary that is Hecate other a power vniuersall called Her●…is Porph Physiologus One of the causes of his beeing named Cyllenius is saith Festus P●…s because the tongue doth all without hands and them that want handes are called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 though this is a name common to all lame persons Others hold that he had it from some place c Mercurius quasi Of Merx marchandise saith Festus and I thinke truely it comes of Mercor to buy or sell whence our word Merchant also commeth d 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to interprete This it is to be the gods messenger not to interprete their sayings but faithfully to discharge their commaunds which the speech can doe transferring things from soule to soule which nought but speech can doe and since soules were taken for gods thence was hee counted the gods interpreter Plato in Cratylo 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. They that doth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 saith he that is speake wee iustly call Ironies But now hauing gotten as wee thinke a better word wee call it Hermes Iris also may bee deriued 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to speake for shee is a messenger also Hee that dealeth in any other mans affaire is called an interpreter a meane and an arbitrator Ser. in Aeneid 4. and Cicero in diuers places Urigil also In Dido's words to Iuno the meane of attonement betweene her and Aeneas saith thus Tu harum interpres curarum et conscia Iuno Thou Iuno art the meane and knowes my grieues e Lord of Merchants Without language farewell traffique Diodorus saith that some 〈◊〉 Mercury to haue found out weights and measures and the way to gaine by trading There is a Greeke prouerbe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 common gaine f Winged His feete wings are called Zalaria in Homere 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he had head-wings also behind each of his eares Apuleius Apologus his wings were aboue his hat as he saith in Plautus his Amphitruo I weare these fethers in my hat Beroald Sueton in August g Messenger Diodor. Sicul. lib. 6. Acron in Horat. Car. lib. 1. Of certaine starres that the Pagans call their gods CHAP. 15. PErhaps these a starres are their gods that they call by their gods names For one they call Mercury another Mars nay and there is one Ioue also though all the world be but Ioue So is there a Saturne yet Saturne hath no small place besides beeing the ruler of all seede But then there is the brightest of all Venus though they will needes make her b the Moone also though she and Iuno contend as much for that glorious star in their opinion as they did for the c golden apple For some say that Lucifer is Venus others Iuno but Venus as she doth euer gets it from Iuno For many more cal it Venus then Iuno there are few or none of the later opiniō But who wil not laugh to haue Ioue named the King of gods and yet see Venus haue a farre brighter starre then his His fulgor should haue beene as super-eminent as his power but it seemes lesse they reply and hirs more because one is nearer the earth then another Why but if the highest place deserue the honour why hath not Saturne the grace from Iupiter O●… could not the vanity that made Ioue King mount so high as the starres So th●… Saturne obtaineth that in heauen which hee could neither attaine d in his Kingdome nor in the Capitoll But why hath not Ianus a starre aswell as Io●… beeing all the world and comprehending all as well as e Ioue Did hee fall to composition for feare of law and for one star in heauen was content to take many faces vpon earth And if two starres onely made them count Mars and Mercury for deities being notwithstanding nothing but speech and warre no parts of the world but acts of men why hath not Aries Taurus Cancer Scorpio c. th●… are in the f highest heauen and haue more g certaine motions why ha●… not they Temples Altars and sacrifices nor any place either amongst the popular gods or the selected L. VIVES THese starres Plato saith that the Greekes and many Barbarians whilom vsed to ad●… no gods but the Sunne Moone and Starres calling them naturall gods as Beritius wrot to Sanchaniates affirming that of the ancient men the Phaenicians and Egiptians first began to erect temples and sacrifices for their friends and benefactors naming them by the stars nam●… one Heauen another Saturne a third the Sun and so forth Thus far Plato Doubtlesse the gods themselues being cunning Astrologians either gaue themselues those names or such as held those great powers of theirs to be in the stars gaue the Inuentors of star-skil those names For the star Mercury they say maketh men witty eloquent and fitting to the planet hee is ioyned with and Seneca liketh this cause of his name of the gods interpretor For with Iupiter and the Sun he is good with Mars and Mercury maleuolent Mars is violent a war-breeder as Porphyry saith the Lo of wrath because of firy ardor ariseth fury and warre Hence is the Stoikes Theology referring all the gods natures to the worlds and consequently so obscure that the truth is not possibly to be
extracted as Eusebius saith both out of Sanchoniato proueth also by argument De praeparat Euang. lib. 1. As Augustine doth also here b The moo●… also Mac. Sat. 1. alledging Philochorus in Atis that Uenus is the Moone and that men in womens apparell sacrificed to her and women in mens because she was held both Thou heauenly Venus saith Apuleius to the Moone that caused all copulation in the beginning propagating humane original thou art now adored in the sacred oratory of Paphos Transform lib. 11. c Golden apple The goddesses contention about the golden apple is plainer then that it needs my rehersall of Lucifer Pliny saith thus Vnder the Sun is the bright star Venus moouing diurnally and planetarily called both Uenus and Luna in the morning being Sols harbinger she is called Lucifer as the pety-sun and light-giuer of the day at night following the sun she is stiled Uesper as the light continuer and the moones vice-gerent lib. 2. Pithagoras first of all found her nature magnitude and motion Olympiad 4●… about the yeare of Rome 142. shee is bigger then all the other starres and so cleare that some-times her beames make a shadowe That maketh her haue such variety of names as Iuno Isis Berecynthia c. d In his Kingdome Whence he was driuen by his son Ioue as also from the Capitol that before was called Saturnia vntill it was dedicated to Iupiter Capitolinus e Ioue Vsing Iouis the Latine nominatiue as Tully doth in 6. De republ that happy starre called Ioue f Highest The Zodiake in the 8. Sphere so called of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a creature euery signe whereof conteyneth diuers bright starres g Certaine motion Perpetually and diurnally once about from East to West in 24. houres making night and day and euer keeping place whereas the Planets are now ioyned now opposite now swift now retrograde which change gaue them the greeke name Planet of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 error though they keepe a certaine motion neuerthelesse yet seemingly they erre and wander through their alteration in motion which the Zodiake neuer alters as situate in the 8. Sphere called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Of Apollo Diana and other select gods called parts of the world CHAP. 16. ANd though they make a Apollo a b wizard a c phisitian yet to making him a part of the world they say he is the Sunne Diana his sister is the Moone and d goddesse of iourneyes So is shee e a Virgin also vntouched and they both beare shafts f because these 2. stars only do send to the earth Vulcan they say is the worlds fire Neptune the water father Dis the earths foundation and depth Bacchus and Ceres seed-gods he to the masculine shee of the feminine or hee of the moysture and shee of the dry part of the seede All this now hath reference to the world to Ioue who is called the full parent generall because hee both begets and brings forth all things seminall And Ceres the great mother her they make the earth and Iuno besides Thus the second cause of things are in her power though Ioue be called the full parent as they affirme him to bee all the world And Minerua because they had made her the artes goddesse and had neuer a starre for her they made her also the sky or g the Moone Vesta they accounted the chiefe of all the goddesses being taken for the earth and yet gaue her the protection of the h worlds fire more light and not so violent as that of Vulcans was And thus by all these select gods they intend but the world in some totall and in others partiall to all as Ioue is partiall as Genius the great mother Soll and Luna or rather Apollo and Diana sometimes one god stands for many things and sometimes one thing presents many gods the first is true in Iupiter hee is all the world hee but onely i Heauen and hee is onely a starre in Heauen So is Iuno goddesse of all second causes yet onely the ayre and yet the earth though shee might k get the starre from Venus So is Minerua the highest sky and the Moone in the lowest sky as they hold The second is true in the world which is both Ioue and Ianus and in the earth which is both Iuno the Great mother and Ceres L. VIVES APollo a Tully de dat deor lib. 3. makes 4. Apollos and 3. Dianas The 3. Apollo and the 2. Diana were the children of Ioue and Latona b Wizard Commonly affirmed in all authors of this subiect Greeke and Latine Plato saith the Thessalonians called him not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 simple because of his diuination wherein was required 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 truth and simplicity which are all one In Cratilo Glaucus taught him his diuination he that was afterward made a Sea-god and called Melicerta Nicand in A●…tolicis c Phisitian Macrob. Satur. They counted the vestalls thus Apollo phisiti●…n Apollo Paean c. He proues him to bee Aesculapius that is a strength of health a rising soly from the substance of animated creatures Much of Apollo yea may read in the said place d Goddesse of Her statues were cut all youthfull because that age beareth trauell lest Festus lib. 9. for Diana was held a goddesse of waies and iournies shee ruled also mountaines and groues and vsed the ●…hes often in her hunting as shal bee shewed hereafter e Virgin So it is reported that it was not lawfull for men to come in her temple at Rome because one rauished a woman there once that came to salute the goddesse and the dogs tare him in peeces immediatly Plato calleth her 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. because of the integrity and modesty that she professed in her loue of virginity or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. because she hath the copulation of man and woman Though the fables go that shee lay with Endymyon and that Pan Mercuries sonne gaue her a white sheepe for 〈◊〉 Uirg 3. Georg. Munere sic niueo lanae si credere digum est Pandeus Archadiae captam te Luna fefellit In Nemora alta vocans nec tu aspernata voca●…tem es c. Arcadian Pans white fleece t is said so blinded Thine eyes faire Phaebe he being breefely minded Call'd the thou yeeldest and to the thicke you went c. f Shaftes Apollo beareth those that hee killed the serpent Python withall and therefore Homer calleth him oftentimes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is far-darting 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is shooting high and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 eternall archer Now Diana vowed a perpetuall virgine haunteth the woods and hills hunting as Virgill describeth Uenus when Aeneas saw her buskind and tucked round and a quiuer at her backe as ready for the pursute These shaftes are nothing all say but the beames of those starres as Lactantius saith of the Sonne Armatus radiis elementa liquentia lustrans Armed with raies he vewes
far different manner then that composition of the bodies k The body V●…gil Georg. 4. Aeneid 6. reciteth Pythagoras his opinion singing of God that is the worlds soule whence each one drawes a life at his originall and returnes it at his death But because it may be doubted how all soules haue one originall sence one vnderstandeth better then another and vseth reason more perfectly this difference he held did proceed from the body and not from the soules For these are his wordes Princip●… Calum at Terras Camposque liquentes ●…temque Globune terrae Titaniaque astra Sp●…s intus alit totamque infusa per artus Mens agi●…at mole●… magno se corpore miscet c. Heauen Earth and Sea each in his proper bound The Moones bright globe and all the spangled round A spirit within doth feed doth mooue and passe Through euery parcell of this spatious masse All ●…hich is explayned at full by Seruius the Gramarian Porphyry confesseth with Pythagoras 〈◊〉 the soule suffereth with the body whose affects good or bad redound in part vnto the 〈◊〉 yet denieth hee that they alter the soules nature De sacrificijs lib. 4. How the platonists conceiued of the naturall part of Phylosophy CHAP. 6. WHerefore ' these Phylosophers whom fame we see hath worthily preferred 〈◊〉 before the rest did wel perceiue that God was a no bodily thing therfore pa●…●…rther then al bodies in this inuestigatiō they saw that no b mutable thing 〈◊〉 and therfore went further then al mutable spirits and soules to seek for 〈◊〉 ●…gain they saw that c al formes of mutable things whereby they are what 〈◊〉 of what nature soeuer they be haue originall from none but him that is 〈◊〉 vnchangeable Consequently neither the body of this vniuerse the fi●…●…alities motions and Elements nor the bodies in them all from heauen to 〈◊〉 ●…her vegetatiue as trees or sensitiue also as beasts or reasonable also as 〈◊〉 those that need no nutriment but subsist by them-selues as the Angels 〈◊〉 being but from him who hath only simple being For in him d to be and 〈◊〉 ●…ffer not as if he might haue being without life neither to liue and to 〈◊〉 ●…d as if he could haue life without intellect nor to vnderstand and to bee 〈◊〉 ●…s if he could haue the one and not the other But his life vnderstan●… beatitude are all but his being From this invariable and simple essence 〈◊〉 they gathered him to bee the vncreated Creator of all existence For they 〈◊〉 ●…ed that all thinges are eyther body or life that the e life excelleth the 〈◊〉 ●…hat sensibility is but a species of the body but vnderstanding of the life 〈◊〉 ●…fore they preferred intellect before sence Sensible things are those 〈◊〉 to be seen or touched Intelligible can only be vnderstood by the minde 〈◊〉 is no bodily sweetnesse be it in the body as beauty or in motion as 〈◊〉 ●…ll song but the minde doth iudge therof which it could not doe if this 〈◊〉 ●…ere not in it more excellent then eyther in that quantity of body or 〈◊〉 ●…se of voyces and keeping of tones and times Yet if it were not mutable 〈◊〉 ●…ld not iudge better then another of these sensible species nor one be witti●…●…inger or more exercised then another but he that began after should 〈◊〉 much as he that learned before and he that profited after should bee vn●… from his ignorance before but that which admitteth maiority or minori●… angeable doubtlesse And therfore these learned men did well obserue 〈◊〉 first forme of things could not haue existence in a subiect mutable And 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 beholding degrees of diuersity in the formes of soules and bodies and 〈◊〉 the seperation of al forme from thē directly destroied thē this infered ane●…ty of some vnchangeable and consequently an all-excelling forme this they 〈◊〉 the beginning of all thinges vncreated all creating exceeding right This 〈◊〉 they knew of God he did manifest vnto them by teaching them the gradu●…●…emplation of his parts invisible by his workes visible as also his eternity ●…inity who created all things both visible and temporary Thus much of 〈◊〉 Physiology or naturall Phylosophy L. VIVES GOD a was no body This Alcinous in Plato's doctrine argueth thus If God were a 〈◊〉 hee should haue substance and forme for so haue all bodies being like the Idea's wherein they ha●…e a secret resemblance But to say God hath substance and forme is absurd for he should ●…thor be the beginning nor vncompounded Therefore hee hath no body Besides euery body is of some substance What then shall GOD bee of fire or ayre earth or water Nor of these are beginnings but rather haue a later being then the substance whereof they consist ●…ut these are blasphemies the truth is GOD is incorporeall If he were a body hee were generated and therefo●…e corruptible But farre are those thinges from GOD. Thus farre Alcinous b No mutable Plato in Timaeus calls God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c one the same and alwaies like him-selfe as Tully translates it Alcinous saith hee must needes bee an intelligible substance Of which kind the soule is better the●… what is not the soule but the power that is perpetually actual excelleth that which is potentiall such therefore is God c All formes In Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so Tully others interprete it d To bee and to liue Alcinous saith that God is supreme eternall ineffable selfe-perfect needing nothing eternally absolute Deity cause of all b●…ing truth harmony good and all these in one and one For I count them not as dis-ioyned but coessentiall And a little ●…ter he saith that God is incomprehensible onely apparant to the thought but conteyned vnder no kinde what-soeuer not definable nor specificall nor subiect to any accident to say hee is euill were wickednesse and to say hee is good is insufficient for then hee should participate of goodnesse but hee hath neyther difference nor accident This opinion did Dionisius the Diuine follow denying wisedome life or vnderstanding to be in god For these are the names of particular perfections which are not in God This seemes to bee grounded on Plato's wordes in Phadon that all good is such by participation of good but there hee excepteth true good that is doubtlesse God the Idea and essence of all beautifull goodnesse e Life excelleth He cals the soule life as Aristotle doth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 perfection or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 any thing eternally actuall both may bee said of the soule But Plato speaking of soules meaneth it seemes onely the rationall The excellency of the Platonists aboue the rest in logicke CHAP. 7. NOw as concerning the other part of their a doctrine called logicke farre bee it from vs to ioyne them in comparison with those fellowes that fetched the iudgement of truth from the bodily sences and held all things to bee swayed by their false and
Diuinity did not terrifie vs but take hold of our acceptance of this inuitation and so translate vs into ioy perpetuall But hee could neither haue bin inuited nor allured to this but onely by one like our selues nor yet could wee bee made happy but onely by God the fountaine of happynesse So then there is but one way Christs humanity by which all accesse lyeth to his Deity that is life eternall and beatitude Whether it be probable that the Platonists say That the gods auoyding earthly contagion haue no commerce with men but by the meanes of the ayry spirits CHAP. 16. FOr it is false that this Platonist saith Plato said God hath no commerce with man and maketh this absolute seperation the most perfect note of their glory and height So then the Diuels are left to deale and to bee infected by mans conuersation and therefore cannot mundifie those that infect them so that both become vnclean the diuels by conuersing with men and then men by adoration of the diuels Or if the diuels can conuerse with men and not bee infected then are they better then the gods for they cannot auoid this inconuenience for that he makes the gods peculiar to bee farre aboue the reach of mans corruption But a God the Creator whome we call the true God he maketh such an one out of Plato as words cannot describe at any hand nay and that the wisest men in their greatest height of abstractiue speculation can haue but now and then a sodaine and b momentary glimpse of the c vnderstanding of this God Well then if this high God d afford his ineffable presence vnto wise men sometimes in their abstracti●…e speculation though after a sodaine fashion and yet is not contaminate thereby why then are the gods placed so farre off sor feare of this contamination As though the sight of those ethaereal bodies that light the earth were not sufficient And if our sight of the starres whome hee maketh visible gods doe not ●…minate them then no more doth it the spirits though seene nearer hand Or●… mans speech more infectious then his sight and therefore the goddes to keepe them-selues pure receiue all their requests at the deliuery of the diuells What shall I say of the other sen●…s Their smelling would not infect them if they were below or when they are below as diuells the smel of a quicke man is not infect●…s at all if the steame of so many dead carcasses in sacrifices infect not Their taste is not sō crauing of them as they should bee driuen to come and aske their meate of men and for their touch it is in their owne choyce For though e handling bee peculiar to that sence indeed yet may they handle their businesse with men to see them and heare them without any necessity of touching for men would dare to desire no further then to see and heare them and if they should what man can touch a God or a Spirit against their wils when we see one cannot touch a sparrow vnlesse he haue first taken her So then in sight hearing speech the goddes might haue corporeal commerce with man Now if the diuels haue thus much without infection and the gods cannot why then the goddes are subiect to contamination and not the diuels But if they bee infected also then what good can they doe a man vnto eternity whome beeing them-selues infected they cannot make cleane nor fit to bee adioyned with the gods between whom and men they are mediators And if they cannot doe this what vse hath man of their mediation Vnlesse that after death they liue both together corrupted and neuer come nearer the goddes nor inioy any beatitude either of them Vnlesse some will make the spirits like to spunges fetching all the filth from others and retayning i●… in them-selues which if it bee so the gods conuerse with spirits that are more vncleane then the man whose conuersation they auoyd for vncleanenesse sake Or can the gods mundifie the diuels from their infection vn-infected and cannot do so with men VVho beleeues this that beleeueth not the diuels illusions Againe if the lookes of man infect then those visible gods the f worlds bright eyes and the other stars are lyable to this infection and the diuels that are not seene but when they list in better state then they But if the sight of man not his infect then let them deny that they do see man we seeing their beames stretcht to the very earth Their beames looke vn-infected through all infection and them-selues cannot conuerse purely with men onely though man stand in neuer so much necessity of their helpe wee see the Sunnes and Moones beames to reflect vppon the earth without contamination of the light But I wonder that so many learned men preferring things intelligible euer-more before sensible would mention any corporall matter in the doctrine of beatitude VVhere is that saying of g Plotine Lette vs flie to our bright country there is the father and there is all VVhat flight is that h to become like to GOD. If then the liker a man is to GOD the nearer hee is also why then the more vnlike the farther off And mans soule the more it lookes after thinges mutable and temporall the more vnlike is it to that essence that is immutable and eternall L. VIVES GOD a the Creator Apul. de d●…o S●…crat Dog Platon GOD is celestiall ineffable and vn-name-able whose nature is hard to finde ' and harder to declare words The of Plato are these 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 To finde God is hard but to comprehend him impossible Thus farre Apuleius Plato in his Timaeus that to finde out the father of this vniuerse is a hard matter but to expresse his full nature to another vtterly impossible And in his Parmenides disputing of that One Hee saith it can neyther bee named defined 〈◊〉 comprehended seene nor imagined b Momentary Signifieth that the dimme light sodainly with-draweth it selfe leauing a slender species or light impression thereof only in the mindes of such as haue seene it yet such an one as giueth ample testimony of the ●…ensity and lustre thereof c Vnderstanding In the world there are some markes whereby the 〈◊〉 Maker may be knowne but that a farre off as a light in the most thicke and spatious d●…ke and not by all but only by the sharpest wits that giue them-selues wholly to speculation thereof d Afford his Nor doth the knowledge of God leaue the wise minde but is euer present when it is purely sought and holyly e Handling Contrectation of Tracto to handle f Worldet bright Apulei de deo Socrat. For as their maiesty required he dedicated heauen to the immortall goddes whome partly wee see and call them celestiall as you the worlds bright eye that guides the times Vos O Clarissima mundi Lumina saith Virgill of the Sunne and Moone Georg. 1. g Plotine Plato saith hee Coleyne copy h To become The
heart that yee may prooue what is the good-will of God and what is good acceptable and perfect Wherefore seeing the workes of mercy being referred vnto God bee they done to our selues or our neighbors are true sacrifices and that their end is nothing but to free vs from misery and make vs happy by that God and none other of whom it is said It is good for mee to adhere a vnto the Lord Truely it followeth that all the whole and holy society of the redeemed and sanctified Citty bee offered vnto God by that b great Priest who gaue vp his life for vs to become members of so great an head in c so meane a forme this forme he offered herein was he offered in this is he our priest or mediator and our sacrifice all in this Now therfore the Apostle hauing exhorted vs to giue vp our bodies a liuing sacrifice pure acceptable to God namely our reasonable seruing of God and not to fashion our selues like this ●…orld but bee changed in newnesse of heart that d wee might prooue what is the will of God and what is good acceptable and perfect all which sacrifice wee ●…re For Isay quoth hee through the grace that is giuen to mee to euery one among yo●… that no man presume to e vnderstand more then is meete to vnderstand but that hee vnderstand according to sobrietie as GOD hath dealt to euery man the measure of faith for as wee haue many members in one body and all members haue not on●… office So wee beeing many are one body in Christ and euery one one anothers members hauing diuers gifts according to the grace that is giuen vs c. This is the christians sacrifice wee 〈◊〉 one body with Christ as the church celebrateth in the sacrament of the altar so well knowne to the faithfull wherein is shewed that in that oblation the church is offered L. VIVES ADhere a It is the greatest good b Great priest Christ of Melchisedeochs order not of Aarons Hee went but once to sacrifice that with onely to wit his crucified body bought our peace of God c So meane Christs man-hood is the churches head his Godhead the life soule d We might proue So Augustine vseth this place wholy Epist. 86. which Eras●…s wonders at the greeke referring good and acceptable and perfect all to the will of God B●…t Augustine referreth them either to the sacrifice or vseth thē simply without respect And in the later sence Ambrose also vseth it e Understand Or thinke of himselfe his bre●…hren or other matters f Sobriety 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 A mediocrity of the whole life is Sobriety 〈◊〉 Tully Offic. 1. out of Plato Some-time 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 saith Tully else-where is translated temp●…e moderation and sometimes modesty but hee doubts whether he may call it frugality T●…sc 3. That the good Angells doe so loue vs that they desire we should worship God onely and not them CHAP. 7. WOrthily are those blessed immortals placed in those celestial habitations reioyeing in the perticipation of their Creator being firme certaine and holy by his eternity truth bounty because they loue vs mortall wretches with a●…alous pity and desire to haue vs immortally blessed also and will not haue vs sacrifice to them but to him to whom they know both vs and themselues to bee sacrifices For we both are inhabitants of that in the psalme Glorious things are spoken of thee thou City of GOD part whereof is pilgrime yet with vs and part assis●…th vs with them From that eternall citty where Gods vnchanging will is all their-law and from that a supernall court for their are wee cared for by the ministery of the holy Angells was that holy scripture brought downe vnto vs that sayth Hee that sacrificeth to any but God alone shal be rooted out This scripture this precept is confirmed vnto vs by so many miracles that it is plaine inough to whom the blessed immortalls so louing vs and wishing as themselues would haue vs to offer sacrifice L. VIVES THat supernall a Court Whence the Angels descend and minister vs safety protection Of the Miracles whereby God hath confirmed his promises in the mindes of the faithfull by the ministery of his holy Angells CHAP. 8. I Should seeme tedious in reuoluing the Miracles of too abstruse antiquity with what miraculous tokens God assured his promises to Abraham that in his seed should all the earth be blessed made many thousand years ago Is it not miraculous for Abrahams barren wife to beare a son she being of age both past child-birth conception that a in the same Abrahams sacrifices the fire came down from heauen betweene them as they lay diuided that the Angells fore-told him their destruction of Sodome whom he entertained in mens shapes from them had Gods promise for a sonne and by the same Angells was certefied of the miraculous deliuery of his brother Lot hard before the burning of Sodome whose wife being turned into a statue of salt for looking backe is a great mistery that none beeing in his way of freedome should cast his eyes behinde him And what stupendious miracles did Moyses effect in Egipt by Gods power for the freedome of Gods people Where Pharaos Magicians the Kings of Egipt that held Gods people in thrall were suffered to worke some wonder to haue the more admired foile for they wrought by charmes and enchantments the delights of the deuills but Moyses had the power of the God of heauen earth to whom the good Angells doe serue and therefore must needes bee victour And the Magicians fayling in the third plague strangely mistically did Moyses effect the other 7. following and then the hard hearted Egiptians Pharao yeelded Gods people their passage And by and by repenting and persuing them the people of God passed through the waters standing for them as rampires and the Egiptians left al their liues in their depth being then re-ioyned Why should I reherse the ordinary miracles that God shewed them in the desert the sweetning of the bitter waters by casting wood therein the Manna from heauen that rotted when one gathered more then a set measure yet gathering two measures the day before the Saboath on which they might gather none it neuer putrified at all how their desire to eate flesh was satisfied with fowles that fell in the tents sufficiēt O miracle for al the people euen til they loath thē how the holding vp of Moyses hands in forme of a crosse and his praier caused that not an Hebrew fell in the fight how the seditious seperating them-selues from the society ordained by God were by the earth swallowed vp quicke to inuisible paines for a visible example How the rocke burst forth into streames being strucke with Moyses rodde and the serpents deadly bytings being sent amongst them f●…r a iust plague were cured by beholding a brazen serpent
preuenting our eye-sights So doth hee that 〈◊〉 bread and blowes forth meale and hee that drinkes and letts it out at his throate 〈◊〉 ●…ople will maruell to see them eate daggers spue heapes of needles laces and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to speake of the trickes of naturall Magicke making men looke headlesse and 〈◊〉 like Asses●…●…nd spreading a Vine all ouer the roome Many know the reasons hereof 〈◊〉 ●…e written of and easily done by men much more by the deuils that are such cunning 〈◊〉 That the Pagans suspected their gods myracles to bee but illusions or saigned ●…tions Ualerius sheweth plainely lib. 1. I know saith hee the doubtfull opinion of 〈◊〉 concerning the gods speach and apparitions obiected to mens ●…ares and eyes but 〈◊〉 they are old traditions let vs beleeue their authors and not detract from the autho●… reuerend and antique doctrine And Liuie saith in diuerse places that the dangerous 〈◊〉 mens thoughts so scrupulous that they beleeued and reported farre more myra●… were true m Fetching downe Of the Magicians power Lucan writeth thus Illis et Sydera Primum Praecipiti deducta polo Phaebeque serena Non aliter diris verborum obsessa venenis Palluit et nigris terrenisque ignibus arsit Quam si fraterna prohiberet imagine tellus I●…sereretque s●…as flammis c●…lestibꝰ vmbras Et patitur tant●…s cātu depress●… labores Do●…ec suppositas propior despumet in herbas They first disroab'd the spheres Of their cleare greatnes and Phaebe in her station With blacke enchantments and damn'd Inuocation They strike as red or pale and make her fade As if the Sunne casting earths sable shade Vpon her front this alteration made So plague they her with harmes till she come nyer And spume vpon such herbes as they desire So in Uirgil a witch saith shee can turne the course of the starres Aeenid 4. And Apuleius his witch could weaken the gods and put out the starres And Ouid saith of Medea Illa reluctātē cursu deducere lunā Nititur tenebras addere solis ●…quis She workes to fetch swift Phaebe from her chaire And wrap the Sunnes bright steeds in darkned ayre For they beleeued that charmes would fetch the Moone downe from heauen Uirg Pharma●… Carmin●…●…el ●…lo possunt deducere lunā Charmes force the siluer Moone downe from her spheare And Phaedras nurse in Seneca's Hippolitus worshipeth the Moone in these termes Sic te Lucidi vultus ferant Et nube ruptâ cornibꝰ puris eas Sic te gerentē frena nocturni ●…theris Detrab●…re nunquam Thessali cantus queant So be thy face vnshrouded And thy pure hornes vnclouded So be thy siluer chaire farre from the reach Of all the charmes that the Thessalians teach And in these troubles they held that making of noyse helped the moone and kept her from hearing the inchaunters words whervpon they sounded cymballs and bet vpon drummes and b●…sens for this they thought a singular helpe Propert. Cantus et é curru lun●…m deducere tētant Et facerent si nō aer●… repulsa sonent Charmes seeke to draw downe Phaebe from her seating And would but for the noyse of basens beating And I●…all speaking of a woman that was an euerlasting prater saith Vn●… laboranti p●…terit succurrerre lunae Her onely voyce would keepe the moone from charmes They vsed it also in Eclipses not knowing their cause Pliny speaking of the first declarers hereof saith 〈◊〉 ●…n and learned that discouered much in the law of nature more then others 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of s●… starres or some mischiefe to beefall them in their eclipses Pindarus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 both great schollers were subiect to this feare the fayling of the Sunne and Moones light 〈◊〉 said they the power of witchcraft vpon them and therefore men b●… it from them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ●…d confused sounds Nor is it any wonder those learned men shoul●… beleeue that the Moone was set from heauen when as there was a sort of men since wee co●… remember that beleeued that an asse had drunke vp the moone because drinking in the 〈◊〉 where it shonne a cloud came on the sudden and couered it so the asse was impriso●… 〈◊〉 ●…ing had a very lawfull and orderly tryall was ripped vppe to haue the Moone 〈◊〉 of his belly to shine in the world againe n She spum'd This they held was the 〈◊〉 of Cerberus dogge vnto the Moone Hecate or Proserpina and the Enchantresses 〈◊〉 it much in their witch-crafts Of the Arke of the testament and the miracles wrought to confirme this law and promise CHAP. 17. 〈◊〉 we of God giuen by the Angels commaunding the worship of one God and forbidding all other was put vppe in an Arke called the Arke of the 〈◊〉 VVhereby is meant that GOD to whose honour all this was 〈◊〉 was not included in that place or any other because hee gaue them 〈◊〉 answers from the place of the Arke and shewed miracles also from 〈◊〉 but that the Testament of his will was there The law that was 〈◊〉 vppon tables of stone and putte in the Arke beeing there VVhich 〈◊〉 in their trauell carryed in a Tabernacle gaue it also the name of 〈◊〉 ●…nacle of the Testament which the Priestes with due reuerence did 〈◊〉 And their signe was a pillar of a clowd in the day which shone in the night 〈◊〉 and when it remoued the tents remoued and where it stayed they rested 〈◊〉 the law had many more great testimonies giuē for it besides what I haue 〈◊〉 besides those that approached out of the place where the Arke stood for 〈◊〉 ●…ey and the Arke were to passe Iordan into the land of promise The waters 〈◊〉 lef●… them a dry way Besides hauing borne it 7. times about the first Citty th●… 〈◊〉 their foe and as the ●…and was then slaue to Paganisme the wals fell flatte 〈◊〉 ●…thout ruine or battery And when they had gotten the land of Promise 〈◊〉 Arke for their sins was taken from them and placed by the victor Idola●…●…ir cheefe gods temple and lockt fast in comming againe the next day 〈◊〉 ●…nd their Idoll throwne downe and broken all to peeces and being terrifi●…●…se prodigies besides a more shamefull scourge they restored the Arke 〈◊〉 they tooke it from And how They set it vpon a carriage yoking kine in 〈◊〉 ●…eifers whose calues they tooke from them and so in tryal of the diuine 〈◊〉 ●…rn'd them loose to go whether they would They without guide came ●…ght to the Hebrwes neuer turning again for the bleating of their Calues but ●…ought home this great mistery to those that honoured it These and such like ●…thing to God but much to the terror and instruction of man For if the Phi●…ers cheefely the Platonists that held the prouidence of God to extend 〈◊〉 thing great and small by the proofe drawne from the seueral formes ●…auties of herbs and flowers as wel as liuing creatures were held to be more 〈◊〉 perswaded then the rest How much more do
by temptations the other enuying this the recollection of the faithfull pilgrims the obscurity I say of the opinion of these two so contrary societies the one good in nature and wil the other good in nature also but bad by wil since it is not explaned by other places of scripture that this place in Genesiis of the light and darknes may bee applyed as Denominatiue vnto them both though the author hadde no such intent yet hath not beene vnprofitably handled because though wee could not knowe the authors will yet wee kept the rule of faith which many other places make manifest For though Gods corporall workes bee heere recited yet haue some similitude with the spiritual as the Apostle sayth you are all the children of the light and the children of the day wee are no sonnes of the night nor darknes But if this were the authors mind the other disputation hath attained perfection that so wise a man of God nay the spirit in him in reciting the workes of God all perfected in sixe dayes might by no meanes bee held to leaue out the Angels eyther in the beginning that is because hee had made them first or as wee may better vnderstand In the beginning because hee made them in his onely begotten Word in which beginning God made heauen and earth Which two names eyther include all the creation spirituall and temporall which is more credible Or the two great partes onely as continents of the lesser beeing first proposed in whole and then the parts performed orderly according to the mistery of the sixe dayes L. VIVES INto a cheynes This is playne in Saint Peters second Epistle and Saint Iudes also The Angels sayth the later which kept not their first estate but left their owne habitation hath hee reserued in euerlasting cheynes vnder Darkenesse vnto the iudgement of the great day Augustine vseth prisons for places whence they cannot passe as the horses were inclosed and could not passe out of the circuit vntill they had run b Pride Typhus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is Pride and the Greeks vse Typhon of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to bee proud and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to burne for the fiery diuell So sayth Plutarch of Typhon Osyris his brother that he was a diuell that troubled all the world with acts of malice and torment Augustine rather vseth it then the Latine for it is of more force and was of much vse in those dayes Philip the Priest vseth it in his Commentaries vppon Iob. c Iustice For God doth iustly reuenge by his good Ministers He maketh the spirits his messengers flaming fire his Ministers Ps. 103. d The desired There is no power on the earth like the diuels Iob. 40. Which might they practise as they desire they would burne drowne waste poyson torture and vtterly destroy man and beast And though we know not the diuells power directly where it is limited and how farr extended yet are wee sure they can do vs more hurt then we can euer repaire Of the power of Angels read August●… de Trinit lib. 3. Of the opinion that some held that the Angels weee meant by the seueral waters and of others that held the waters vncreated CHAP. 34. YEt some there a were that thought that the b company of Angels were meant by the waters and that these wordes Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters and let it seperate the waters from the waters meant by the vpperwaters the Angels and by the lower eyther the nations or the diuels But if this bee so there is no mention of the Angels creation but onely of their seperation c Though some most vainely and impiously deny that God made the waters because hee neuer said Let there be waters So they may say of earth for he neuer said Let there be earth I but say they it is written God created both heauen and earth Did he so Then is water included therein also for one name serues both for the Psalm sayth The sea is his and he made it and his hands prepared the dry land but the d elementary weights do moue these men to take the waters aboue for the Angels because so an element cannot remayne aboue the heauens No more would these men if they could make a man after their principles put fleame being e in stead of water in mans body in the head f but there is the seate of fleame most fitly appointed by God but so absurdly in these mens conceits that if wee know not though this booke told vs playne that God had placed this fluid cold and consequently heauy humor in the vppermost part of mans body these world-weighers would neuer beleeue it And if they were subiect to the scriptures authority they would yet haue some meaning to shift by But seeing that the consideration of all thinges that the Booke of God conteineth concerning the creation would draw vs farre from our resolued purpose lette vs now together with the conclusion of this booke giue end to this disputation of the two contrary societyes of Angells wherein are also some groundes of the two societies of mankinde vnto whome we intend now to proceed in a fitting discourse L. VIVES SOme a there were as Origen for one who held that the waters aboue the heauens were no waters but Angelicall powers and the waters vnder the heauens their contraries diuels Epiph. ad Ioan. Hierosol Episc. b Companies Apocal. The peaple are like many waters and here-vpon some thought the Psalme meant saying You waters that bee aboue the heauens praise the name of the Lord for that belongs only to reasonable creatures to do c Though some Augustine reckoneth this for an heresie to hold the waters coeternall with God but names no author I beleeue Hesiods Chaos and Homers all producing waters were his originals d Elementary I see all this growes into question whether there be waters aboue the heauens and whether they be elementary as ours are Of the first there is lesse doubt For if as some hold the firmament be the ayre then the seperation of waters from waters was but the parting of the cloudes from the sea But the holy men that affirme the waters of Genesis to be aboue the starry firmament preuaile I gesse now in this great question that a thicke clowd commixt with ayre was placed betwixt heauen and earth to darken the space betweene heauen and vs And that part of it beeing thickned into that sea we see was drawne by the Creator from the face of the earth to the place where it is that other part was borne vp by an vnknowne power to the vttermost parts of the world And hence it came that the vpper still including the lower heauen the fire fire the ayre ayre the water this water includeth not the earth because the whole element thereof is not vnder the Moone as fire and ayre is Now for the nature of those waters Origen to begin with the
not exclude numbers from Gods knowledge Plato hauing so commended God for vsing them in the worlds creation and our Scripture saith of God T●… 〈◊〉 ordered al things in measure number and weight and the Prophet saith He 〈◊〉 the world and the Gospell saith All the heires of your heads are numbred God forbid the that we should think y● he knoweth not number whose wisdome 〈◊〉 ●…standing is in numerably infinite as Dauid saith for the infinitenesse of 〈◊〉 ●…hough it bee beyond number is not vnknowne to him whose know●… infinite Therefore if whatsoeuer bee knowne be comprehended in the 〈◊〉 that knowledge then is all infinitenesse bounded in the knowledge of 〈◊〉 ●…ecause his knowledge is infinite and because it is not vncomprehensi●… 〈◊〉 knowledge Wherefore if numbers infinitenesse bee not infinite vn●… knowledge nor cannot bee what are wee meane wretches that dare pre●…●…mit his knowledge or say that if this reuolution bee not admitted in 〈◊〉 renewing God cannot either fore-know althings ere hee made them 〈◊〉 them when hee made them whereas his wisdome beeing simply and ●…ly manifold can comprehend all incomprehensibility by his incom●…le comprehension so that whatsoeuer thing that is new and vnlike to all 〈◊〉 should please to make it could not bee new nor strange vnto him nor 〈◊〉 ●…ore-see it a little before but containe it in his eternall prescience L. VIVES 〈◊〉 Two men two horses or whatsoeuer make both one number I inquire not 〈◊〉 ●…hether the number and the thing numbred bee one or no the schooles ring of that ●…gh b Doth not The best reading Of the worlds without end or ages of ages CHAP. 19. 〈◊〉 doth so and that there is a continual connexion of those times which 〈◊〉 ●…lled Secula a seculorum ages of ages or worlds without end running 〈◊〉 indestinate difference onely the soules that are freed from misery re●…●…ernally blessed or that these words Secula seculorum doe import the 〈◊〉 remayning firme in Gods wisdome and beeing the efficient cause of ●…ory world I dare not affirme The singular may bee an explication of 〈◊〉 as if wee should say Heauen of heauen for the Heauens of heauens ●…D calls the firmament aboue which the waters are Heauen in the sin●… 〈◊〉 and yet the Psalme saith and you waters that bee aboue the Heauens 〈◊〉 of the LORD Which of those two it be or whether Secula 〈◊〉 another meaning is a deepe question We may let it passe it belongs 〈◊〉 proposed theame but whether wee could define or but obserue 〈◊〉 discourse let vs not aduenture to affirme ought rashly in so obs●…●…ouersie Now are wee in hand with the circulary persons that 〈◊〉 ●…ings round about till they become repaired But which of these opini●… be true concerning these Secula seculorum it is nothing to these reuo●…●…cause whether the worlds of worlds bee not the same revolued but o●…●…uely depending on the former the freed soules remayning still 〈◊〉 ●…lesse blisse or whether the Worldes of worldes bee the formes 〈◊〉 ●…sitorie ages and ruling them as their subiects yet the circulari●…●…o place heere how-soeuer The Saints b eternall life ouerthroweth 〈◊〉 L. VIVES 〈◊〉 a The scriptures often vse these two words both together Hierome in ●…p ad Gal. expounds them thus we 〈◊〉 saith he the difference betweene Seculum Seculum Secu●… and secula seculorum Seculu●… some-times a space of time some-times eternity the hebrew is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and when it is written with the letter van before it it is eternity when otherwise it is 50. yeares or a Iubily And therefore the Hebrew seruant that loued his Maister for his wife and children had his care bored and was commanded to serue an age Seculum 50. yeares And the Moabites and Amonites enter not into the Church of God vntill the 15. generation and not vntill an age for the yeare of Iubily quit all hard conditions Some say that Seculum seculorum hath the same respect that Sanctu Sanctorum Caelum Caelorum the Heauens of heauens had or as the Works of workes or Song of songs That difference that the heauens had to those whose heauens they were and so the rest the holy aboue all holy the song excelling all songs c. So was secula seculorum the ages excelling all ages So they say that this present age includeth all from the worlds beginning vnto the iudgement And then they goe further and begin to graduate the ages past before and to come after it whether they were or shal be good or ill falling into such a forrest of questions as whole volumes haue beene written onely of this kinde b Eternall Returning no more to misery nor were that happy without certeynty of eternity nor eternall if death should end it Of that impious assertion that soules truely blessed shall haue diuers reuolutions into misery againe CHAP. 20. FOr what a Godly eares can endure to heare that after the passage of this life in such misery if I may call it a life b being rather so offensiue a death and yet c we loue it rather then that death that frees vs from it after so many intollerable mischieues ended all at length by true zeale and piety wee should be admitted to the sight of God and bee placed in the fruition and perticipation of that incorporeall light and vnchangeable immortall essence with loue of which we burne all vpon this condition to leaue it againe at length and bee re-infolded in mortall misery amongst the hellish immortalls where GOD is lost where truth is sought by hate where blessednesse is sought by vncleanesse and bee cast from all enioying of eternity truth or felicity and this not once but often being eternally reuolued by the course of the times from the first to the later and all this because by meanes of these circularities transforming vs and our false bea●…des in true miseries successiuely but yet eternally GOD might come to ●…ow his owne workes Whereas otherwise hee should neither bee able to rest from working not know ought that is infinite Who can heare or endure this Which were it true there were not onely more wit in concealing it but also 〈◊〉 speake my minde as I can more learning in not knowing it d for if wee shalb●…●…ssed in not remembring them there e why doe wee agrauate our misery 〈◊〉 knowing them here But if wee must needs know them there yet let vs 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 selues ignorant of them here to haue the happier expectation then the 〈◊〉 that wee shall attaine here expecting blessed eternity and there 〈◊〉 onely blisse but with assurance that it is but transitory But if they ●…y that no man can attaine this blisse vnlesse hee know the transitory reuolutions thereof ere hee leaue this life how then doe they confesse that the more one loues GOD the easilier shall hee attaine blisse and yet teach the way how 〈◊〉 ●…ll this louing affect 〈◊〉 will not but loue him lightly whome hee
an horne thus much Hierome In Spaine this Prouerbe remaineth still but not as Augustine taketh it The Lord wil be altogither seene but in a manner that is his helpe shall bee seene d Obeyed Ob-audisti and so the old writersvsed to say in steed of obedisti Of Rebecca Nachors neece whome Isaac maried CHAP 33. THen Isaac being forty yeares old maried Rebecca neece to his vncle Nachor three yeares after his mothers death his father being a hundred and forty yeares old And when Abraham sent his seruant into Mesopotamia to fetch her and said vnto him Put thine hand vnder my thigh and I will sweare thee by the Lord God of heauen and the Lord of earth that thou shalt not take my sonne Isaac a wife of the daughters of Canaan what is meant by this but the Lord God of Heauen and the Lord of Earth that was to proceed of those loynes are these meane prophesies and presages of that which wee see now fulfilled in Christ. Of Abraham marrying Kethurah after Sarahs death and the meaning therefore CHAP. 34. BVt what is ment by Abrahams marrying Kethurah after Sarahs death God defend vs from suspect of incontinency in him being so old and so holy and faithfull desired he more sonnes God hauing promised to make the seed of Isaac 〈◊〉 the stars of Heauen and the sandes of the Earth But if Agar and Hismaell did signifie the mortalls to the Old-testament as the Apostle teacheth why may not Kethurah and her sonnes signifie the mortalls belonging to the New-testament They both were called Abrahams wiues his concubines But Sarah was neuer called his concubine but his wife only for it is thus written of Sarahs giuing Agar vnto Abrahā Then Sarah Abrahams wife tooke Agar the Egiptian her maid after Abraham had dwelled tenne yeares in the land of Canaan and gaue her to her husband Abraham for his wife And of Kethurah wee read thus of his taking her after Sarahs death Now Abraham had taken him another wife called Kethurah Here now you heare them both called his wiues but the Scripture calleth them both his concubines also saying afterwards Abraham gaeue all his goods vnto Isaac but vnto the sonnes of his concubines he gaue guiftes and sent them away from Isaac his sonne while he yet liued Eastward into the East country Thus the concubines sonnes haue some guifts but none of them attayne the promised kingdome neither the carnall Iewes nor the heretiques for none are heyres but Isaac nor are the sonnes of the flesh the Sonnes of God but those of the promise of whome it is said In Isaac shal be called thy seede for I cannot see how Kethurah whome hee married after Sarahs death should bee called his concubine but in this respect But hee that will not vnderstand these things thus let him not slander Abraham for what if this were appointed by God to shew a those future heretiques that deny second mariage in this great father of so many nations that it is no sinne to many after the first wife be dead now Abraham died being a hundred seauenty fiue yeares old and Isaac whome hee begat when hee was a hundred was seauenty fiue yeares of age at his death L. VIVES THose a future The Cataphrygians that held second mariage to bee fornication Aug ad quod vult Hierome against Iouinian doth not onely abhorre second mariage but euen disliketh of the first for he was a single man and bare marriage no good will The appointment of God concerning the two twins in Rebeccas womb CHAP. 33. NOw let vs see the proceedings of the Citty of God after Abrahams death So then from Isaacs birth to the sixtith yere of his age wherin he had children there is this one thing to be noted that when as he had prayed for her frutefulnes who was barren and that God had heard him and opened her wombe and shee conceiued the two twins a played in her wombe where-with she being trou bled asked the Lords pleasure and was answered thus Two nations are in thy wombe and two manner of people shal be diuided out of thy bowells and the one shall bee mightier then the other and the elder shall serue the younger Wherin Peter the Apostle vnderstandeth the great mistery of grace in that ere they were borne and either done euill or good the one was elected and the other reiected and doubtlesse as concerning originall sin both were alike and guilty and as concerning actuall both a like and cleare But myne intent in this worke curbeth mee from further discourse of this point wee haue handled it in other volumes But that saying The elder shall serue the yonger all men interpret of the Iewes seruing the Christians and though it seeme fulfilled in b Idumaea which came of the elder Esau or Edom for hee had two names because it was afterward subdued by the Israelites that came of the yonger yet not-with-standing that prophecy must needs haue a greater intent then so and what is that but to be fulfilled in the Iewes and the Christians L. VIVES THe two twinnes a played So say the seauentie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or kicked Hierome saith mooued mouebantur Aquila saith were crushed confringebantur And Symmachus compareth their motion to an emptie ship at sea 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 b Idumaea Stephanus deriueth their nation from Idumaas Semiramis her sonne as Iudaea from Iudas another of her sonnes but he is deceiued Of a promise and blessing receiued by Isaac in the manner that Abraham had receiued his CHAP. 36. NOw Isaac receiued such an instruction from God as his father had done diuerse times before It is recorded thus There was a famine in the land besides the first famine that was in Abrahams time and Isaac went to Abymelech king of the Philistines in Gerara And the Lord appeared vnto him and said Goe not downe into Aegypt but abide in the land which I shall shew thee dwell in this land and I will bee with thee and blesse thee for to thee and to thy seed will I giue this land and I will establish mine oath which I sware to Abraham thy father and will multiply thy seede as the starres of heauen and giue all this land vnto thy seede and in thy seede shall all the nations of the earth bee blessed because thy father Abraham obeyed my voyce and kept my ordinances my commandements my statutes and my lawes Now this Patriarch had no wife nor concubine more then his first but rested content with the two sonnes that God sent him at one birth And hee also feared his wiues beautie amongst those strangers and did as his father had done before him with-her calling her sister onely and not wife She was indeed his kinswoman both by father and mother but when the strangers knew that she was his wife they let her quietly alone with him Wee not preferre him before his father tho in that hee had but one
wife with-out all doubt his fathers obedience was of the greater merite so that for his sake God saith that hee will doe Isaac that good that he did him In thy seede shall all the nations of the world bee blessed saith he because thy father Abraham obeyed my voyce c. Againe saith he the God of thy father Abraham feare not for I am with thee and haue blessed thee and will multiply thy seede for Abraham thy Fathers sake To shew all those carnally minded men that thinke it was lust that made Abraham doe as it is recorded that hee did it with no lust at all but a chaste intent teaching vs besides that wee ought not compare mens worths by singularitie but to take them with all their qualities together For a man may excell another in this or that vertue who excelleth him as farre in another as good And al-be-it it be true that continence is better then marriage yet the faithfull married man is better then the continent Infidell for such 〈◊〉 one a is not onely not to be praised for his continencie since he beleeueth not but rather highly to bee dispraised for not beleeuing seeing hee is continent But to grant them both good a married man of great faith and obedience in Iesus Christ is better then a continent man with lesse but if they be equall who maketh any question that the continent man is the more exellent L. VIVES SUch an a One is not Herein is apparant how fruitlesse externall workes are without the dew of grace do ripen them in the heart the Bruges copy readeth not this place so well in my iudgement Of Esau and Iacob and the misteries included in them both CHAP. 27. SO Isaacs two sonnes Esau and Iacob were brought vp together now the yonger got the birth-right of the elder by a bargaine made for a lentiles and potage which Iacob had prepared Esau longed for exceedingly so sold him his birth-right for some of them and confirmed the bargaine with an oth Here now may we learne that it is b not the kind of meate but the gluttonous affect that hurts To proceed Isaac growes old and his sight fayled him he would willingly blesse his elder sonne and not knowing he blessed the yonger who had counterfeited his brothers roughnesse of body by putting goats skins vpon his necke and hands and so let his father feele him Now least some should thinke that this were c ●…lent deceipt in Iacob the Scripture saith before Esau was a cunning hunter 〈◊〉 ●…ed in the fieles but Iacob was a simple playne man and kept at home d 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ●…lesse one without counterfeyting what was the deceipt then of this pla●… dealing man in getting of this blessing what can the guile of a guiltlesse true hearted soule be in this case but a deepe mistery of the truth what was the blessing Behold saith he the smell of my sonne is as the smell of a field which the Lord 〈◊〉 blessed God giue thee therefore of the dew of heauen and the fatnesse of earth ●…d plenty of wheate and wine let the nations bee thy seruants and Princes bow downe vnto thee bee Lord ouer thy bretheren and let thy mothers children honor thee cursed be he that curseth thee and blessed be he that blesseth thee Thus this blessing of Iacob is the preaching of Christ vnto all the nations This is the whole scope in Isaac is the law and the prophets and by the mouths of the Iewes is Christ blessed vnknowen to them because hee knoweth not them The odour of his name fills the world like a field the dew of heauen is his diuine doctrine the fertile ●…th is the faithfull Church the plenty of wheat and wine is the multitude ●…ed in Christ by the sacraments of his body and blood Him do nations serue and Princes adore He●… is Lord ouer his brother for his people rule o●…r the Iewes The sonnes of his father that is Abrahams sonnes in the faith doe honour him For hee is Abrahams sonne in the flesh cursed bee hee that curseth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 blessed be he that blesseth him Christ I meane our Sauiour blessed That is ●…ly ●…ught by the Prophets of the woundring Iewes and is still blessed by o●… of them that as yet erroneously expect his comming And now comes 〈◊〉 ●…er for the blessing promised then is Isaac afraid and knowes hee had blessed the one for the other Hee wonders and asketh who he was yet complaineth hee not of the deceit but hauing the mysterie thereof opened in his heart hee forbeares fretning and confirmeth the blessing Who was hee then saith he that hunted and tooke venison for me and I haue eaten of it all before thou camest and I haue blessed him and hee shall bee blessed Who would not haue here expected a curse rather but that his minde was altered by a diuine inspiration O true done deedes but yet all propheticall on earth but all by heauen by men but all for God! whole volumes would not hold all the mysteries that they conceiue but wee must restraine our selues The processe of the worke calleth vs on vnto other matters L. VIVES FOr a lentiles There is lenticula a vessell of oyle and lenticula of lens a little fitchie kinde of pease the other comes of lentitas because the oyle cannot runne but gently lente out of the mouth it is so straite But the scriptures say that they were onely read po●…ge that Esau solde his birth-right for and therefore hee was called Edom redde b Not the 〈◊〉 of This is a true precept of the Euangelicall lawe Heere I might inscribe much not allow the commons any licentiousnesse but to teach the rulers diuerse things which I must let alone for once c Fraudulent deceipt For deceipt may be either good or bad Of Iacobs iourney into Mesopotamia for a wife his vision in the night as hee went his returne with foure women whereas he went but for one CHAP. 38. IAcobs parents sent him into Mesopotamia there to get a wife His father dismissed him with these words Thou shalt take thee no wife of the daughters of Canaan Arise get thee to Mesopotamia to the house of Bathuel thy mothers father 〈◊〉 thence take thee a wife of the daughters of Laban thy mothers brother My GOD blesse thee and increase thee and multiply thee that thou maist bee a multitude of people and giue the blessing of Abraham to thee and to thy seede after thee that 〈◊〉 maiest inherite the land wherein thou art a stranger which God gaue Abraham Heere wee see Iacob the one halfe of Isaacs seede seuered from Esau the other halfe For when it was said in Isaac shall thy seed bee called that is the seed pertaining to Gods holy Cittie then was Abrahams other seede the bond-womans sonne seuered from this other as Kethurahs was also to bee done with afterwards But now there was this doubt risen about Isaacs two sonnes whether
the eyes of the spirit though not of the dull flesh hence it is that scriptures call a prophecy a vision and Nathan is called the Seer 1. Kings The Greekes some-times vse the name of Prophet for their priests poets or teachers Adam was the first man and the first Prophet who saw the mistery of Christ and his church in his sleepe Then followeth Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Iacob and his children Moyses c. Yet are not these reckned amongst the prophets for none of them left any bookes of the visions but Moyses whose bookes concerned ceremonies sacrifices and ciuill orders also But these were all figures of future things nor were those the propheticall times as those from Samuel were wherein there neuer were prophets wanting whereas before God spake but seldome and his visions were not so manifest as they were from the first King vnto the captiuity wherein were foure great bookes of prophecies written and twelue of the small At what time Gods promise concerning the Land of Canaan was fulfilled and Israell receiued it to dwell in and possesse CHAP. 2. VVEE said in the last booke that God promised two things vnto Abraham one was the possession of the Land of Canaan for his seed in these words Goe into the Land that I will shew thee and I will make thee a great nation c. The other of farre more excellence not concerning the carnall but the spirituall seed nor Israell onely but all the beleeuing nations of the world in these words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 shall all nations of the earth be blessed c. This we confirmed by many testi●… Now therefore was Abrahams carnall seed that is the Israelites in the 〈◊〉 promise now had they townes citties yea and Kings therein and Gods 〈◊〉 were performed vnto them in great measure not onely those that hee 〈◊〉 signes or by word of mouth vnto Abraham Isaac and Iacob but euen 〈◊〉 ●…so that Moyses who brought them out of the Egyptian bondage or any 〈◊〉 him vnto this instant had promised them from God But the pro●…●…cerning the land of Canaan that Israel should reigne ouer it from the 〈◊〉 Egipt vnto the great Euphrates was neither fulfilled by Iosuah that wor●… of them into the Land of promise and hee that diuided the whole a●… the twelue tribes nor by any other of the Iudges in all the time after 〈◊〉 was there any more prophecies that it was to come but at this instant 〈◊〉 ●…ected And by a Dauid and his son Salomon it was fulfilled indeed and 〈◊〉 ●…gdome enlarged as farre as was promised for these two made all 〈◊〉 ●…ations their seruants and tributaries Thus then was Abrahams seed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so settled in this land of Canaan by these Kings that now no part of 〈◊〉 ●…ly promise was left vnfulfilled but that the Hebrewes obeying Gods ●…ements might continue their dominion therein without all distur●… in all security and happinesse of estate But God knowing they would 〈◊〉 vsed some temporall afflictions to excercise the few faithfull therein 〈◊〉 ●…ad left and by them to giue warning to all his seruants that the nations 〈◊〉 ●…erwards to containe who were to bee warned by those as in whom hee 〈◊〉 ●…llfill his other promise by opening the New Testament in the death of 〈◊〉 L. VIVES B●…●…id Hierome epist. ad Dardan sheweth that the Iewes possessed not all the lands 〈◊〉 promised thē for in the booke of Numbers it is sayd to be bounded on the South by the salt sea and the wildernesse of sinne vnto that riuer of Egypt that ranne into the sea by Rhinocorura on the west by the sea of Palestina Phaenicia Coele Syria and Cylicia on the North by Mount Taurus and Zephyrius as farre as Emath or Epiphania in Syria on the East by Antioch and the Lake Genesareth called now Tabarie and by Iordan that runneth into the salt sea called now The dead sea Beyond Iordan halfe of the land of the tribes of Ruben Gad lay and halfe of the tribe of Manasses Thus much Hierome But Dauid possessed not all these but onely that within the bounds of Rhinocorura and Euphrates wherein the Israelites still kept themselues The Prophets three meanings of earthly Ierusalem of heauenly Ierusalem and of both CHAP. 3. WHerefore as those prophecies spoken to Abraham Isaac Iacob or any other in the times before the Kings so likewise all that the Prophets spoke afterwards had their double referēce partly to Abraháms seed in the flesh partly to that wherein al the nations of the earth are blessed in him being made Co-heires with Christ in the glory and kingdome of heauen by this New Testament So then they concerne partly the bond-woman bringing forth vnto bondage that is the earthly Ierusalem which serueth with her sonnes and partly to the free Citty of God the true Ierusalem eternall and heauenly whose children are pilgrims vpon earth in the way of Gods word And there are some that belong vnto both properly to the bond-woman and figuratiuely vnto the free woman for the Prophets haue a triple meaning in their prophecies some concerning the earthly Ierusalem some the heauenly and some both as for example The Prophet a Nathan was sent to tell Dauid of his sinne and to fortell him the euills that should ensue thereof Now who doubteth that these words concerned the temporall City whether they were spoken publikely for the peoples generall good or priuately for some mans knowledge for some temporall vse in the life present But now whereas wee read Behold the daies come saith the LORD that I will make a new couenant with the house of Israell and the house of Iudah not according to the couenant that I made with their fathers when I tooke them by the hand to bring them out of the Land of Egipt which couenant they brake although I was an husband vnto them saith the Lord but this is the couenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those daies saith the LORD I will put my law in their mindes and write it in their hearts and I wil be their GOD and they shal be my people This without a●…l doubt is a prophecy of the celestiall Ierusalem to whom God himselfe stands as a reward and vnto which the enioying of him is the perfection of good Yet belongeth it vnto them both in that the earthly Ierusalem was called Gods Cittie and his house promised to bee therein which seemed to be fulfilled in Salomons building of that magnificent temple These things were both relations of things acted on earth and figures of things concerning heauen which kinde of prophecy compounded of both is of great efficacy in the canonicall scriptures of the Old Testament and doth exercise the readers of scripture very laudably in seeking how the things that are spoken of Abrahams carnall seed are allegorically fulfilled in his seed by faith In b so much that some held that there was nothing in the scriptures fore-told and effected or
〈◊〉 In signe of Dommes-day the whole earth shall sweate Euer to reigne a King in heau'nly seate Shall come to iudge all flesh The faithfull and Vnfaithfull too before this God shall stand Seeing him high with Saints in Times last end Corporeall shall hee sit and thence extend His doome on soules The earth shall quite lie wast Ruin'd ore-growne with thornes and men shall cast Idolls away and treasure Searching fire Shall burne the ground and thence it shall inquire Through seas and skie and breake Hells blackest gates So shall free light salute the blessed states Of Saints the guilty lasting flames shall burne No act so hid but then to light shall turne Nor brest so close but GOD shall open wide Each where shall cries be heard and noyse beside Of gnashing teeth The Sunne shall from the skie Flie forth and starres no more mooue orderly Great Heauen shall be dissolu'd the Moone depriu'd Of all her light places at height arriu'd Deprest and valleys raised to their seate There shall be nought to mortalls high or great Hills shall lye leuell with the plaines the sea Endure no burthen and the earth as they Shall perish cleft with lightning euery spring And riuer burne The fatall Trumpe shall ring Vnto the world from heauen a dismall blast Including plagues to come for ill deedes past Old Chaos through the cleft masse shall bee seene Vnto this Barre shall all earths Kings conueene Riuers of fire and Brimstone flowing from heau'n e Iudicii signo Act. 1. 11. This Iesus who is taken vp to heauen shall so come as you haue seene him goe vp into heauen f Scilicet This verse is not in the Greeke nor is it added here for there must be twenty seauen g Sicanimae The Greeke is then shall all flesh come into free heauen and the fire shall take away the holy and the wicked for euer but because the sence is harsh I had rather read it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and so make it agree with the Latine interpretation h Exuret The bookes of consciences shall bee opened as it is in the Reuelation Of those here-after i Sanctorum Isay. 40. 4. Euery valley shall bee exalted and euery mountaine and hill shall bee layde lowe the crooked shall bee streight and the rough places plaine k Occultos High and 〈◊〉 shall then bee all one and neither offensiue pompe height and glorye shall no more domineere in particular but as the Apostle saith Then shall all principalities and powers bee annihilated that GOD may bee all in all For there is no greater plague then to bee vnder him that is blowne bigge with the false conceite of greatnesse hee groweth rich and consequently proud hee thinkes hee may domineere his father ●…as I marry was hee his pedigree is alway in his mouth and very likely a theefe a Butcher or a Swin-heard in the front of this his noble descent Another Tarre-lubber bragges that hee is a souldiour an ayde vnto the state in affaires military therefore will hee reare and teare downe goe whole Citties before him if any leaue their owne seates and come into his way or to take the wall of him not else l No word For the Greeke 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 beginning a word is alwayes aspirate now if we bring it into Latine aspirate wee must put H. before it and this deceiues the ignorant m Quadrate and solid A plaine quadrate is a number multiplyed once by it selfe as three times three then multiply the product by the first and you haue a solid as three times three is nine Heere is your quadrate plaine three times nine is twenty seauen that is the quadrate solide n Lactantius Lactantius following his Maister Arnobius hath written seauen most excellent and acute volumes against the Pagans nor haue wee any Christian that is a better Ciceronian then hee 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 To th'faithlesse vniust hands then shall hee come Whose impure hands shall giue him blowes and some Shall from their foule mouthes poysoned spittle send Hee to their whips his holy back shall bend 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Thus beate hee shall stand mute that none may ken Who was or whence the worde to speake to men And hee shall beare a thornie crowne 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 They gaue him for drinke Vineger and Gall for meate This table of in-hospitalitie they set This is likewise in another verse of Sybills the Greeke is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Thy God thy good thou brainlesse sencelesse didst not know Who past and plaid in mortall words and works below A crowne of thornes and fearfull gall thou didst bestow In the next Chapter following the words are these 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Temples veile shall rend in twaine and at mid-day Prodigious darkned night for three full houres shall stay In the same Chapter 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Death shall shut vp his date with sleeping for three daies Then rising from the dead he turnes to the Sunne rayes The resurrections first-fruites to th'elect displayes o Of the resurrection Making away for the chosen by his resurrection so the Greeke implyeth Christ as the Apostle saith being the first borne of many brethren and the first fruites of those that sleepe The seauen Sages in Romulus his time Israel lead into captiuity Romulus dyeth and is deified CHAP. 24. IN Romulus his time liued Thales one of those who after the Theologicall Poets in which Orpheus was chiefe were called the Wise-men or Sages And a now did the Chaldaeans subdue the ten Tribes of Israell fallen before from Iuda and lead them all into Chaldaea captiue leauing onely the tribes of Iuda and Beniamin free who had their Kings seate at Hierusalem Romulus dying and beeing not to bee found was here-vpon deified which vse was now almost giuen ouer so that b in the Caesars times they did it rather vpon flattery then error and Tully commends Romulus highly in that hee could deserue those in so wise and learned an age though Philosophy were not yet in her height of subtile and acute positions and disputations But although in the later dayes they made no new Gods of men yet kept they their old ones still and gaue not ouer to worship them increasing superstition by their swarmes of Images whereof antiquity had none and the deuills working so powerfully with them that they got them to make publike presentations of the gods shames such as if they had bin vn-dreamed of before they would haue shamed to inuent as then After Romulus reigned Numa who stuffed all the Citty with false religion yet could hee not shape a God-head for him-selfe out of all this Chaos of his consecrations It seemes hee stowed
would break the law that he bound him to and forsake his Maker yet did hee not take away his freedome of election fore-seeing the good vse that hee would make of this euill by restoring man to his grace by meanes of a man borne of the condemned seed of man-kinde and by gathering so many vnto this grace as should supply the places of the falne Angels and so preserue and perhaps augment the number of the heauenly Inhabitants For euill men do much against the will of God but yet his wisedome fore-sees that all such actions as seeme to oppose his will do tend to such ends as hee fore-knew to be good and iust And therefore wheras God is said To change his will that is to turne his meeknesse into anger against some persons the change in this c●…se is in the persons and not in him and they finde him changed in their sufferances as a sore eye findeth the sun sharp and being cured findes it comfortable wheras this change was in the eie and not in the sun which keeps his office as he did at first For Gods operation in the hearts of the obedient is said to be his will where-vppon the Apostle faith It is God that worketh in you both will and deed For euen as that righteousnesse wherein both God him-selfe is righteous and whereby also a man that is iustified of God is such is termed the righteousnes of God So also is that law which hee giueth vnto man called his law whereas it is rather pertinent vnto man then vnto him For those were men vnto whom Christ said It is written also in your law though we read else-where The law of his God is in his heart and according vnto his wil which God worketh in man him-selfe is said to wil it because he worketh it in others who do will it as he is said to know that which hee maketh the ignorant to know For whereas S. Peter saith We now knowing God yea rather being knowne of God we may not hereby gather that God came but as then to the knowledg of those who hee had predestinate before the foundations of the world but God as then is said to know that which he made knowne to others Of this phraze of speach I haue spoken I remember heretofore And according vnto this Will wherby we say that God willeth that which he maketh others to will who know not what is to come hee willeth many things and yet effecteth them not The promise of the Saints eternall blisse and the wickeds perpetuall torment CHAP. 2. FOr the Saints doe will many things that are inspired with his holy will and yet are not done by him as when they pray for any one it is not hee that causeth this their praier though he do produce this will of praier in them by his holy spirit And therfore when the Saints do will and pray according to God wee may well say that God willeth it and yet worketh it not as we say hee willeth that him-self which he maketh others to wil. But according to his eternall wil ioined with his fore-knowledge therby did he create al that he pleased in heauen and in earth and hath wrought al things already as well future as past or present But when as the time of manifestation of any thing which God fore-knoweth to come is not yet come we say It shal be when God wil if both the time be vncertaine and the thing it selfe then we say It shall be if God will not that God shall haue any other will as than then hee had before but because that shall bee then effected which his eternall vnchanging will had from al eternity ordained The promise of the Saints eternall blisse and the wickeds perpetual torment CHAP. 3. VVHerefore to omit many wordes As we see his promise to Abraham In thy seed shall all nations be blessed fulfilled in Christ so shall that be fulfilled hereafter which was promised to the said seed by the Prophet The dead shal liue euen with their bodies shall they rise And whereas he saith I will create new heauens and a new earth and the former shall not be remembred nor come into minde But be you glad and reioice in the things I shal create For behold I will create Hierusalem as a reioycing and her people as a ioy c. And by another Prophet At that time shall thy people be deliuered euery one that shall bee found written in the booke of life and many that sleepe in the dust of the earth shall awake some to euer lasting life and some to shame and perpetuall contempt And againe they shall take the kingdome of the Saintes of the most High and possesse it for euer euen for euer and euer And by and by after His Kingdome is an euerlasting kingdome c. Together with all such places as I eyther put into the twentith booke or left vntouched All these things shall come to passe and those haue already which the infidels would neuer beleeue For the same GOD promised them both euen hee whome the pagan goddes do tremble before as Porphyry a worthy Phylosopher of theirs confesseth Against the wise men of the world that hold it impossible for mans bodie to be transported vp to the dwellings of ioy i●… heauen CHAP. 4. BVt the learned of the world thinke that they oppose this all-conuerting power very strongly as touching the resurrection when they vse that place of Cicero in his third booke de repub Who hauing affirmed that Romulus and Hercules were both deified yet were a not their bodies saith hee translated into heauen for nature will alow an earthly body no place but in the earth This is the wise mans argument which GOD knowes how vaine it is for admit that wee were all meere spirits without bodies dwelling in heauen and beeing ignorant of all earthly creatures and it should be told vs that one day we should be bound in corporal bodies might we not then vse this obiection to more power and refuse to beleeue that nature would euer suffer an ●…ncorporeall substance to bee bound or circumscribed by a corporeall one Yet is the earth full of vegetable soules strangely combined with earthly bodies Why then cannot God that made this creature transport an earthly body into heauen as well as he can bring a soule a purer essence then any celestiall body downe from heauen and inclose it in a forme of earth Can this little peece of earth include so excellent a nature in it and liue by it and cannot heauen entertaine it nor keepe it in it seeing that it liueth by an essence more excellent then heauen it selfe is Indeed this shall not come to passe as yet because it is not his pleasure who made this that we daily see and so respect not in a far more admirable manner then that shall be which those wise men beleeue not for why is it not more strange that a most pure
Surgeons b Anotamists they call them haue often cut vp dead men and liue men sometimes to learne the posture of mans inward parts and which way to make incisions and to effect their cures yet those members whereof I speake and whereof the c harmony and proportion of mans whole body doth consist no man could euer finde or durst euer vndertake to enquire which if they could bee knowne we should finde more reason and pleasing contemplation in the forming of the interior parts then wee can obserue or collect from those that lye open to the eye There are some parts of the body that concerne decorum onely and are of no vse such are the pappes on the brests of men and the beard which is no strengthning but an ornament to the face as the naked chins of women which being weaker were other-wise to haue this strengthning also do plainly declare Now if there be no exterior part of man that is vse-full which is not also comely and if there bee also parts in man that are comely and not vse-full then GOD in the framing of mans body had a greater respect of dignity then of necessity For necessity shall cease the time shall come when wee shall doe nothing but enioy our lustlesse beauties for which we must especially glorifie him to whom the Psalme saith Thou hast put on praise and comlinesse And then for the beauty and vse of other creatures which God hath set before the eyes of man though as yet miserable and amongst miseries what man is able to recount them the vniuersall gracefulnesse of the heauens the earth and the sea the brightnesse of the light in the Sunne Moone and Starres the shades of the woods the colours and smells of flowres the numbers of birds and their varied hewes and songs the many formes of beasts and fishes whereof the least are the rarest for the fabrike of the Bee or Pismier is more admired then the Whales and the strange alterations in the colour of the sea as beeing in seuerall garments now one greene then another now blew and then purple How pleasing a sight sometimes it is to see it rough and how more pleasing when it is calme And O what a hand is that that giueth so many meates to asswage hunger so many tastes to those meates with-out helpe of Cooke and so many medecinall powers to those tastes How delightfull is the dayes reciprocation with the night the temperatenesse of the ayre and the workes of nature in the barkes of trees and skinnes of beasts O who can draw the perticulars How tedious should I be in euery peculiar of these few that I haue heere as it were heaped together if I should stand vpon them one by one Yet are all these but solaces of mans miseries no way pertinent to his glories What are they then that his blisse shall giue him if that his misery haue such blessings as these What will GOD giue them whome hee hath predestinated vnto life hauing giuen such great things euen to them whome hee hath predestinated vnto death What will hee giue them in his kingdome for whome hee sent his onely sonne to suffer all iniuries euen to death vpon earth Wherevpon Saint Paul sayth vnto them Hee who spared not his owne sonne but gaue him for vs all vnto death how shall hee not with Him giue vs all things also When this promise is fulfilled O what shall wee bee then How glorious shall the soule of man bee with-out all staine and sinne that can either subdue or oppose it or against which it need to contend perfect in all vertue and enthroned in all perfection of peace How great how delightfull how true shall our knowledge of all things be there with-out all error with-out all labour where wee shall drinke at the spring head of GODS sapience with-out all difficulty and in all felicity How perfect shall our bodies bee beeing wholy subiect vnto their spirits and there-by sufficiently quickned and nourished with-out any other sustenance for they shall now bee no more naturall but spirituall they shall haue the substance of ●…sh quite exempt from all fleshly corruption L. VIVES PArtly a necessary Such as husbandry the Arte of Spinning weauing and such as man cannot liue without b Anatomists that is cutters vp of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a section incision or cutting c Harmony The congruence connexion and concurrence of any thing may be called so it commeth of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to adapt or compose a thing proportionably Of the obstinacie of some few in denying the resurrection which the whole world beleeueth as it was fore-told CHAP. 25. BVT as touching the goods of the minde which the blessed shall enioy after this life the Philosophers and wee are both of one minde Our difference is concerning the resurrection which they deny with all the power they haue but the increase of the beleeuers hath left vs but a few opposers CHRIST that disprooued the obstinate euen in his proper body gathering all vnto his faith learned and vnlearned wise and simple The world beleeued GODS promise in this who promised also that it should beleeue this It was a not Peters magick that wrought it but it was that GOD of whome as I haue said often and as Porphyry confesseth from their owne Oracles all their Gods doe stand in awe and dread Porphyry calles him GOD the Father and King of GODS But GOD forbid that wee should beleeue his promises as they doe that will not beleeue what hee had promised that the world should beleeue For why should wee not rather beleeue as the world doth and as it was prophecied it should and leaue them to their owne idle talke that will not beleeue this that the world was promised to beleeue for if they say wee must take it in another sence because they will not doe that GOD whome they haue commended so much iniury as to say his Scriptures are idle things Yet surely they iniure him as much or more in saying they must bee vnderstood other-wise then the world vnderstandeth them which is as GOD both promised and performed Why cannot GOD raise the flesh vnto eternall life Is it a worke vnworthy of God Touching his omnipotencie whereby hee worketh so many wonders I haue sayd enough already If they would shew mee a thing which hee cannot doe I will tell them hee cannot lye Let vs therefore beleeue onely what hee can doe and not beleeue what hee cannot If they doe not then beleeue that hee can lye let them beleeue that hee will doe what hee promiseth And let them beleeue as the world beleeues which hee promised should beleeue and whose beleefe hee both produced and praised And how prooue they the worke of the resurrection any way vnworthy of GOD There shall be no corruption there-in and that is all the euill that can be-fall the body Of the elementary orders wee haue spoken already as also of the possibility of the swift motion
this and feare to doe well before men and so become lesse profitable by striuing to keepe their vertuous acts in secret then other-wise he saith againe Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good workes and glorifie your father which is in heauen Doe not well with an intent that men should see you doe so and so turne to behold you who are not what you are by them but doe so that they may glorifie your father in heauen vnto whom if they turne they may bee such as you are Thus did the Martirs that excelled the Scaeuola's C●…rtij and Decij not by punishing them-selues but by learning the inflictions of others in true vertue piety and innumerable multitude But the others liuing in an earthly citty wherein the end of all their endeuours was by them-selues propounded to themselues the fame namely and domination of this world and not the eternitie of heauen not in the euerlasting life but in their owne ends and the mouthes of their posteritie what should they Ioue but glory whereby they desired to suruiue after death in the e memories and mouthes of such as commended them L. VIVES THen yeeld a to it So must the sence be wee must resist the desire of glorie and not yeeld to it b Not onely not wee haue giuen it the best reading of all I thinke and the nearest to likelyhood c Before my father Matt. 10. 33. d Before the Angels of God Luc. 12. 9. e Memories and mouthes I flie as liuing through the mouthes of men ●…aith Ennius Of the temporall rewards that God bestowed vpon the Romaines vertues and good conditions CHAP. 15. SVch therefore as we haue spoken of if God did neither meane to blesse them with eternitie in his heauenly cittie amongst his Angels to which societie that true pietie brings men which affordeth that true diuine worship which the Greekes call a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to none but onely the true God nor to vouchsafe them an earthly glory or excellence of Emperiall dignity then should their vertues the good actes whereby they endeuoured to ascend to this glory passe vnrewarded But the Lord saith euen of such as doe good for humaine glory Verely I say vnto you they haue their reward These therefore that neglected their priuate estates for the common-wealth and publike treasurie opposing couetise hauing a full care of their countries freedome and liuing according to their lawes without touch of lust or guilt these seemed to goe the right way to get them-selues honour and did so honored they are almost all the world ouer all nations very neare receiued their lawes honored were they then in all mens mouths and now in most mens writings through the world Thus haue they no reason to complaine of Gods iustice they haue their reward L. VIVES Call a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to worship or to serue Of the reward of the eternall cittizens of heauen to whom the examples of the Romaines vertues were of good vse CHAP. 16. BVt as for their rewarde that endure reproches here on earth for the cittie of GOD which the louers of the world doe hate and deride that is of another nature That City is eternall No man a is borne in it because no man dieth in it Felicity is there fully yet no goddesse but a Gods guift of this habitation haue wee a promise by faith as long as wee are here in pilgrimage on earth and longe for that rest aboue The Sunne ariseth not there both vpon good and bad but the Sonne of righteousnesse shineth onely ouer the good There shal be no neede to respect the common treasury more then the priuate truth is all the treasure that lieth there And therefore the Romaine Empire had that glorious increase not onely to bee a fit guerdon to the vertues of such worthies as wee fore-named but also that the cittizens of heauen in their pilgrimages vpon earth might obserue those examples with a sober diligence and thence gather how great care loue and respect ought to bee carried to the heauenly country for life eternall if those men had such a deare affect to their earthly country for glory so temporall L. VIVES NO man a is borne That is their is no increase of them no more then there is decease the●… iust number being predestinate and fore-knowne by the eternall GOD himselfe The fruites of the Romaines warres both to themselues and to those with whom they warred CHAP. 17. FOr what skilleth it in respect of this short and transitory life vnder whose dominion a mortall man doth liue so hee bee not compelled to actes of impiety or iniustice But did the Romaines euer hurt any of the nations whom they conquered and gaue lawes vnto but in the very fury and warre of the conquest If they could haue giuen those lawes by agreement it had beene better but then had beene no place for triumph for the Romaines liued vnder the same lawes themselues that they gaue to others This a had beene sufficient for the state but that Mars Bellona and Victory should then haue beene displeased and displaced also if they had had no wars nor no victories Would not then the states of Rome and other nations haue beene all one especially that beeing done which was most grauely and worthyly performed afterwardes b euery man that belonged to the Romaine Empire beeing made free of the citty as though they were now all cittizens of Rome whereas before there was but a very few so that such as had no landes should liue of the common this would haue beene granted vnto good gouernours by other nations sooner by intreaty then force For what doth conquering or beeing conquered hurt or profit mens liues manners or dignities either I see no good it doth but onely addeth vnto their intollerable vaine-glory who ayme at such matters and warre for them and lastly receiue them as their labours rewarde Doth not their land pay tribute to the state as well as others Yes May they learne any thing that others may not No. c And are there not many Senators that neuer saw Rome True Take away vaine-glory and what are men but men An●… if the peruersenesse of the age would permit the verie best meanes for 〈◊〉 beare away the greatest honours then should not this humaine honour b●… so prize-worthy howsoeuer beeing but a breath and a light fume But yet 〈◊〉 vs vse these things to doe our selues good towardes GOD. Let vs co●…sider what obstacles these men haue scorn●…d what paines they haue tak●… what affects they haue suppressed and onely for this humaine glorie which afterward they receiued as the reward of their vertues and let this serue to suppresse our pride also that seeing the cittie wherein wee haue promised habitation and Kingdome is as farre diffrent from this in excellence as Heauen from earth life eternall from mirth temporall firme glory from fuming vaine-glory angells
company from mens and his light that made the Sunne Moone from the light of the Sunne and Moone then haue the cittizens of this heauenly region done iust nothing in doing any thing for attaining this celestiall dwelling seeing that the other haue taken such paines in that habitation of earth which they had already attained especially the remission of sinnes calling vs as cittizens to that eternall dwelling and hauing a kinde of resemblance with Romulus his sanctuary by which hee gathered a multitude of people into his cittie through hope of impunity L. VIVES THis had beene a The olde bookes reade Hoc si fieret sine Marte c. if this could haue beene done without Mars making it runne in one sentence vnto the interogation b Euery man The Latines were made free denizens of olde and from them it spred further into Italie ouer Po ouer the Alpes and the sea Claudius Caesar made many Barbarians free of Rome affirming that it was the ruine of Athens and Lacedaemon that they made not such as they conquered free of their Citties Afterwardes vnder Emperours that were Spaniardes Africans and Thracians whole P●…ouinces at first and afterwardes the whole Empire was made free of Rome And whereas before all were called Barbarians but the Greekes now the Romaines beeing Lords exempted themselues and afterward the Latines and all the Italians from that name but after that all the Prouinces beeing made free of the Cittie onely they were called Barbarians which were not vnder the Empire of Rome And thus doth Herodian Spartianus Eutropius and later Historiographers vse it So the riuer Rhine had two bankes the neither of them was Romaine the further Barbarian Claudianus O 〈◊〉 doluit Rh●…nus quá Barbarus ibat Quod ●…e non geminis frueretur iudice ripis O how Rhine wept on the Barbarian shore I ha●… both his bankes were not within thy powre c And are there not Many nations beeing made free of the Citty many of the chiefe men of those nations were made Senators though they neuer saw Rome no more then a many that were Cittizens How farre the Christians should bee from boasting of their deedes for their eternall country the Romaines hauing done so much for their temporall Citty and for humaine glory CHAP. 18. WHy is it then so much to despise all this worlds vanities for eternitie when as Brutus could kill his sonnes beeing not enforced to it for feare his country should loose the bare liberty Truely it is a more difficult matter to kill ones children then to let goe those things which wee doe but gather for our children or to giue them to the poore when faith or righteousnesse bids vs. Earthly ritches can neither blesse vs nor our children with happinesse we must either loose them in this life or lea●…e them to be enioyed after our death by one we cannot tell whom perhaps by those wee would not should haue them No it is GOD the mindes true wealth that makes vs happy The Poet reares Brutus a monument of vnhappinesse for killing his sons though otherwise he praise him Natosque pater fera bella mouentes Ad paenam patriá pro libertate vocabit Infaelix vtcumque ferent ea fata minores His sonnes conuict of turbulent transgression He kills to free his country from oppression Haplesse how ere succeeding times shall ringe But in the next verse hee giues him comfort Vicit amor patriae laudumque immensa cupido Conquer'd by 's countries loue and thirst of prey e The two things that set all the Romaines vpon admirable action So then if the Father could kill his owne sonnes for mortall freedome and thirst of praise both transitory affects what a great matter is it if wee doe not kill our sonnes but count the poore of Christ our sonnes and for that eternall liberty which freeth vs from sinne death and hell not for humaine cupidity but for Christian charity to free men not from Tarquin but from the deuills and their King And if Torquatus another Romaine slew his owne sonne not for fighting against his country but for going onely against his command beeing generall he beeing a valorous youth and prouoked by his enemy yea and yet getting the victory because there was more hurt in his contempt of authority then good in his conquest why should they boast who for the lawes of that neuer-ending country doe forsake onely those things which are neuer so deare as children namely earthly goods and possessions If Furius Camillus after his banishment by his ●…ngratefull country which he had saued from beeing oppressed by the valourous Veians yet would daigne to come to free it the second time because hee had no better place to shew his glory in why is hee extolled as hauing done great matters who hauing perhaps suffered some great disgrace and iniury in the church by his carnall enemies hath not departed to the churches enemies the Here●…es or inuented some heresie against it him selfe but rather hath guarded it 〈◊〉 farre as in him lay from all the pernitious inuasions of heresie because their is no a other place to liue in vnto eternall life though there bee others ●…gh to attaine humaine glory in If Scaeuola when he saw he had failed to ki●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a sore foe to Rome and killed another for him to make a peace with him ●…t his hand into the fire that burned on the Altar saying that Rome had a multitude such as he that had conspired his destruction and by this speech so terrified him that hee made a present peace with them and got him packing why shall any man talke of his merits in respect of the Kingdome of Heauen if he loose not his hand but his whole body in the fire for it not by his owne choise but by the powre of the persecutor If Curtius to satisfie the Oracle that commanded Rome to cast the best Iewell it had into a great gulfe and the Romaines being resolued that valour and men of armes were their best Iewells tooke his horse and armour and willingly leaped into that gaping gulfe why shall a man say hee hath done much for heauen that shall not cast himselfe to death but endure death at the hands of some enemy of his faith seeing that GOD his Lord and the King of his country hath giuen him this rule as a certaine Oracle Feare not them that kill the bodie but are not able to kill the soule If the two Decii consecrated themselues to their countries good sacrificed their bloud as with praiers vnto the angry gods for the deliuerance of the Romaine armie let not the holy Martires bee proude of doing any thing for the pertaking of their eternall possessions where felicity hath neither errour nor ende if they doe contend in charitable faith and faithfull charity euen vnto the shedding of their bloud both for their brethren for whom and also for their enemies by whome
inflicted as sinnes punishment vpon the 〈◊〉 not the body it sel●…e is heauy to the soule and if hee had not added it yet 〈◊〉 haue vnderstood it so But Plato affirming plainely that the gods that the ●…or made haue incorruptible bodies bringing in their maker promising 〈◊〉 as a great benefit to remaine therein eternally and neuer to bee seperated 〈◊〉 them why then do those neuer b dissemble their owne knowledge to 〈◊〉 ●…ristianity trouble and contradict themselues in seeking to oppose against ●…to's words c Tully translateth thus bringing in the great GOD speaking 〈◊〉 the gods hee had made d You that are of the gods originall whom I haue ●…d attend e these your bodies by my will are indissoluble although euery 〈◊〉 ●…ay bee dissolued But f it is euill to desire to dissolue a thing g compounded by 〈◊〉 but seeing that you are created you are neither immortall nor indissoluble yet 〈◊〉 neuer be dissolued nor die these shall not preuaile against my will which is a 〈◊〉 assurance of your eternity then all your formes and compositions are Behold 〈◊〉 ●…ith that their gods by their creation and combination of body and soule 〈◊〉 ●…all and yet immortall by the decree and will of him that made them If 〈◊〉 it be paine to the soule to be bound in any body why should God seeme 〈◊〉 ●…way their feare of death by promising them eternall immortality not 〈◊〉 of their nature which is compounded not simple but because of his 〈◊〉 which can eternize creatures and preserue compounds immortally frō●…on whether Plato hold this true of the stars is another question For h 〈◊〉 not consequently grant him that those globous illuminate bodies 〈◊〉 ●…ht day vpon earth haue each one a peculiar soule whereby it liues 〈◊〉 ●…ed and intellectuall as he affirmeth directly of the world also But this as 〈◊〉 no question for this place This I held fit to recite against those that 〈◊〉 the name of Platonists are proudly ashamed of the name of christians 〈◊〉 ●…e communication of this name with the vulgar should debase the 〈◊〉 because small number of the i Palliate These seeking holes in the coate ●…stianity barke at the eternity of the body as if the desire of the soules 〈◊〉 the continuance of it in the fraile body were contraries whereas their 〈◊〉 Plato holds it as a gift giuen by the great GOD to the lesser that they 〈◊〉 not die that is be seuered from the bodies he gaue them L. VIVES 〈◊〉 a is Philolaus the Pythagorean held that man hauing left his body became an 〈◊〉 God and Plato sayth our body depresseth our thoughts and calls it away from 〈◊〉 ●…emplations that therefore we must leaue it that in this life also as well as we can 〈◊〉 ●…her life where we shal be free we may see the truth loue the good Herevpon 〈◊〉 ●…th a man cannot bee happy without he leaue the body and be ioyned vnto God d 〈◊〉 An imitation of Terence t●… si sapis quod scis nescias a Tully translateth Tullies 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is a peece of Plato's Timaeus the whole worke is very falty in Tully He that will read Plato himselfe the words begin thus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. Plato had it out of Timaeus of Locris his booke after whom he named his dialogue for thus saith Timaeus God desyring to d●…e an excellent worke created or begot this God who shall neuer die vnlesse it please that God that made him to dissolue him But it is euill to desire the dissolution of so rare a worke d You that are of Deorum satu orti e These your Tully hath this sentence a depraued sence by reason of the want of a negatiue f It is euill Or an euill mans part g Compounded Or combined h We may not Augustine durst neuer decide this question Origen it seemes followed Plato and got a many of the learned vnto his side i Palliate The Romanes Toga or gowne was the Greekes Pallium and they that would seeme absolute Grecians went in these Pallia or clokes and such were obserued much for their Graecisme in life and learning For as wee teach all our arts in latine now so did they in greeke then They were but few and therefore more admired Against the opinion that earthly bodies cannot be corruptible nor eternall CHAP 17. THey stand in this also that earthly bodies cannot bee eternall and yet hold the whole earth which they hold but as a part of their great God though not of their highest the world to be eternall Seeng then their greatest GOD made another God greater then all the rest beneath him that is the world and seeing they hold this is a creature hauing an intellectuall soule included in it by which it liues hauing the parts consisting of 4 elements whose connexion that great GOD least this other should euer perish made indissoluble and eternall why should the earth then being but a meane member of a greater creature bee eternall and yet the bodies of earthly creatures God willing the one as well as the other may not bee eternall I but say they earth a must bee returned vnto earth whence the bodies of earthly creatures are shapen therefore say they these must of force be dissolued and die to be restored to the eternall earth from whēce they were taken Wel if one should affirme the same of the fire say that al the bodies taken thence should be restored vnto it againe as the heauenly bodies thereof consisting were not that promise of immortality that Plato sayd God made vnto those gods vtterly broken by this position Or can it not be so because it pleaseth not God whose will as Plato sayth is beyond all other assurance why may not God then haue so resolued of the terrene bodies that being brought forth they should perish no more once composed they should bee dissolued no more nor that which is once taken from the elements should euer bee restored and that the soules being once placed the bodies should neuer for sake them but inioy eternall happinesse in this combination why doth not Plato confesse that God can do this why cannot he preserue earthly things from corruption Is his power as the Platonists or rather as the christians auouch A likely matter the Philosophers know Gods counsells but not the Prophers nay rather it was thus their spirit of truth reuealed what God permitted vnto the Prophets but the weakenesse of coniecture in these questions wholy deluded the Philosophers But they should not haue bin so far besotted in obstinate ignorance as to contradict themselues in publike assertions saying first that the soule cannot be blessed without it abādon al body whatsoeuer by by after b that the gods haue blessed soules yet are continually tied vnto celestiall fiery bodies as for Iupiters the worlds soule that is eternally inherēt in the 4 elements composing this vniuerse For Plato holds
it to bee diffused frō the midst of earth geometrically called the c center vnto the extreamest parts of heauē through al the parts of the world by d misticall numbers making the world a blessed creature whose soule enioyeth ful happines of wisdom yet leaueth not the body wose bodie liueteh eternally by it and as though it consist of so many different 〈◊〉 yet can neither dull it nor hinder it Seeing then that they giue their con●…res this scope why will they not beleeue that God hath power to eternize 〈◊〉 bodies wherein the soules without being parted from them by death or 〈◊〉 ●…rdened by them at all in life may liue most in blessed eternity as they 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 gods doe in firy bodies and their Iupiter in all the foure elements If 〈◊〉 ●…es cannot be blessed without the bodies bee quite forsaken why then let 〈◊〉 ●…ods get them out of the starres let Iupiter pack out of the elements if they 〈◊〉 goe then are they wretched But they will allow neither of these they 〈◊〉 ●…uerre that the Gods may leaue their bodies least they should seeme to ●…ip mortalls neither dare they barre them of blisse least they should con●…●…em wretches Wherefore all bodies are not impediments to beatitude but 〈◊〉 the corruptible transitory and mortall ones not such as God made man 〈◊〉 but such as his sinne procured him afterwards L. VIVES 〈◊〉 a must This is scripture that the body is earth and must become earth Homer 〈◊〉 it the Grecians for he calls Hectors carcasse earth Phocylides an ancient writer 〈◊〉 thus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. Our body is of earth and dying must Returne to earth for Man is made of dust 〈◊〉 ●…er hath also the like recited by Tully Tusc. qu. 1. wherein the words that Augustine 〈◊〉 ●…xtant Mors est finitas omnibus quae generi humano angorem Nec quicquam afferunt reddenda est terra terra Of all the paines wherein Mans soule soiournes Death is the end all earth to earth returnes 〈◊〉 ●…t the gods Some bookes read terrene gods falsly Augustine hath nothing to doe 〈◊〉 ●…e gods in this place c Center A center is that point in the midst of a sphaericall 〈◊〉 ●…m whence all lines drawne to the circumference are equall It is an indiuisible point 〈◊〉 ●…d parts neither should it bee all in the midst nor the lines drawne from it to the cir●… equall as not beeing all drawne from one part Plato placeth the worldes 〈◊〉 the center and so distends it circularly throughout the whole vniuerse and then 〈◊〉 ●…ng his position makes the diuine power aboue diffuse it selfe downe-ward euen 〈◊〉 ●…ter d Musicall numbers Hereof see Macrobius Chalcidins and Marsilius Ficinus 〈◊〉 ●…at of Plato's Timaeus which he either translated or reformed from the hand of an●…●…ese numbers for their obscurity are growne into a prouerbe Of the terrene bodies which the Philosophers hold cannot be in heauen but must fall to earth by their naturall weight CHAP. 18. 〈◊〉 but say they an earthly body is either kept on earth or caried to 〈◊〉 ●…th by the naturall weight and therefore cannot bee in heauen The first 〈◊〉 ●…de were in a wooddie and fruitfull land which was called Paradise But 〈◊〉 we must resolue this doubt seeing that both Christs body is already as●…d and that the Saints at the resurrection shall doe so also let vs ponder these earthly weights a little If mans arte of a mettall that being put into the water sinketh can yet frame a vessell that shall swim how much more credible is it for Gods secret power whose omnipotent will as Plato saith can both keepe things produced from perishing and parts combined from dissoluing whereas the combination of corporall and vncorporeall is a stranger and harder operation then that of corporalls with corporalls to take a all weight from earthly things whereby they are carried downe-wards and to qualifie the bodies of the blessed soules so as though they bee terrene yet they may bee incorruptible and apt to ascend descend or vse what motion they will with all celerity Or b if the Angells can transport bodily weights whether they please must we thinke they doe it with toile and feeling of the burden Why then may we not beleeue that the perfect spirits of the blessed can carry their bodies whither they please and place them where they please for whereas in our bodily carriage of earthly things we feele that the c more bigge it is the heauier it is and the heauier the more toile-some to beare it is not so with the soule the soule carrieth the bodily members better when they are big and strong then when they are small and meagre and whereas a big sound man is heauier to others shoulders then a leane sicke man yet will he mooue his healthfull heauinesse with farre more agility then the other can doe his crasie lightnesse or then he can himselfe if famine or sicknesse haue shaken off his flesh This power hath good temperature more then great weight in our mortal earthly corruptible bodies And who can describe the infinite difference betweene our present health and our future immortality Let not the Philosophers therefore oppose vs with any corporall weight or earthly ponderosity I will not aske them why an earthly body may not bee in heauen as well as d the whole earth may hang alone without any supportation for perhaps they will retire their disputation to the center of the world vnto which all heauy things doe tend But this I say that if the lesser Gods whose worke Plato maketh Man all other liuing things with him could take away the quality of burning from the fire and leaue it the light e which the eye transfuseth shall wee then doubt that that GOD vnto whose will hee ascribes their immortality the eternall coherence and indissolubility of those strange and diuers combinations of corporealls and incorporealls can giue man a nature that shall make him liue incorruptible and immortal keeping the forme of him and auoyding the weight But of the faith of the resurrection and the quality of the immortall bodies more exactly God willing in the end of the worke L. VIVES ALL a weight These are Gods admirable workes and it is the merit of our faith that we owe vnto God to beleeue them I wonder the schoolemen will inquire of these things define them by the rules of nature b If the Angells To omit the schooles and naturall reasons herein is the power of an Angell seene that in one night God smote 80000 men of the Assyrians campe by the hand of an Angel 4. Kings 19. Now let Man go brag of his weaknesse c The world big Here is no need of predicamentall distinctions hee vseth big for the ma●… weight not for the quantity d The whole earth It hangs not in nothing for it hangs in the ayre yet would ayre giue it way but that it hath gotten the