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A57976 A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ... Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1642 (1642) Wing R2389; ESTC R7368 261,592 504

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19 20. where the Church had her owne Synods without the consent of a civill Magistrate but we are to repute it a speciall favour of God when the King as a nursing-●ather will countenance Synods with his royall presence God blesse our King 5. Conclusion The Kings royall power in adding his sanction to the ecclesiasticall constitutions and in punishing such as are decreed to be hereticks by the Church is regall and not ministeriall and servile See for this the Con c. Chalced. A●t 16. the Imperiall lawes Cod. l. 1 tit 8. leg 2. Heretic Vocab decret p. 2. caus 23. q. 8. c. 30. crossing Bellar. de pont l. 1. c. 7. So do their owne men goe against Bellarmine in this as Sanderus de clavib David l 2. c. 13. Carerius de potest sum pont l. 2. c. 23 Leo epist. 38. to Martian and Pulcheria and Leo epist. 7. to Theodosius Becanus erreth here with Bellarmine making the King as a servant obliged to adde his sanction civill to ecclesiasticall Canons Becan in opusc exam conc Anglic c. 7. 1. Because the use of the sword at Gods commandement is a kingly act commanded by God and is service done to God not to the Church 2. Neither is the King so to execute the Churches will as he should judge only of the fact and of the assumption yea he is to judge of the law and of the major proposition I or we see not in the Word of God where a Judge is a Judge to punish a fault and is not to know judicially that it is a fault a Judge as a Judge should know such a thing to be heresie and not tak● it upon the word of an Assembly of Church-men Deu. 17. 18 19. he is expresly to reade and know the law and to know and remember the Decree Prov. 31. 5. And the cause which he knoweth not he is to search out Job 29. 16. all which is meant of a knowledge not of private discretion which is required in all private Christians but as I take these places of a knowledge judiciall and authoritative which agreeth to a Judge as a Judge 3. If a Synod erre and decree that man to be an heretick who is sound in the faith the King is not obliged to erre with the Synod and to punish the innocent he is to decree righteous judgement and so the King is to judge of heresie but after a regall and civill way and with a coactive pow●r as the Synod or Church-Assembly is to judge of heresie after an ecclesiastick way and with a spirituall power 2. The King punisheth heresie as it troubleth the Common-w●alth and the Synod as it is scandalous and infectious in the Church Yea and the Christian King ruleth over men as men and also as Christian-m●n he ruleth over them as men with a dominion over their bodies lives and goods by his civill lawes he hath also dominion as King over men as Christians and members of Christs kingdome and Church not over their consc●ences for that is proper only to the father of spirits but he hath a coactive power over all men even Pastors as to cause them do their Christian duties he hath power to compell Church-men in Assemblies to determine truth and to use the keyes right and to preach and use the Sacraments according as Christ hath commanded in his Word and to punish them when they do otherwise What then if the King discerne that to be truth and absolve the man whom the Church-Assembly doth condemne as an heretick who shall judge betwixt them I answer the infallible rule of judging for both is the Word of God which speaketh home unpartially to both if they will heare but certainly the Kings civill kingly coactive power to compell men to doe their duty remaineth the highest and most supream power on Earth in genere potestatis politicae in the kind of politick power and pastors and all men may by this power be compelled to do right as for the abuse of the power it is no part of the power and in this kind the King hath a negative politick and kingly suffrage and voyce in all Church Assemblies no ecclesiasticall constitution hath the force of a law without the politick suffrage of the civill Judge And againe the ecclesiastick power that Christ hath given to his Church remaineth also the most supreme power under Christ in genere potestatis ecclesiasticae and the King is subject to this power The King is not excepted in this He that despiseth you despiseth me and in this whatsoever ye shall binde on earth shall be bound in Heaven and in this whose sinnes ye remit they are remitted and whose sinnes ye retaine they are retained and this ecclesiasticall power being the highest on Earth Pastors may command Kings in the Lord Jer. 1. 10 18 17. to doe their duty by an ecclesiastick power Arminians and Formalists both aske which of the two powers are highest and nearest unto the head Christ whither the kingly power or the ecclesiastick power for two paralell highest powers on earth cannot be I answer by asking which of the two shoulders in a mans body are highest and nearest to the mans head Certainly one of them in a well proportioned body is not higher then another and both are alike neare the head as none of two pole-starrs are nearer to their Zenith and Nadir none of two wheels in a right Chariot are higher then another The Church power saith the Prelate Davenant is highest in teaching and directing the kingly power in commanding and compelling Barclai compareth them to two shoulders under one head Meisner saith one of them is not above another There is no absurdity saith Spalato that in two bodies formally different there should be two heads yea it is necessary The Roman Glosse saith Patricius is the Popes father in things temporall and the Pope is his father in things spirituall as Cusan saith Papists saith Spalat have deleted that out of the Glosse So Berengarius Gelasius Papa Nicolaius the I agree to these words Sciendum quod nec Catholicae fidei nec Christianae contrarium est legi si ad honorem regni sacerdotij Rex pontifici pontifix obediat regi Spalato seemeth against Bellarmine to make up the losses made by Papists in Kings honour while he holdeth that the King his person and as he is a Christian man is subject to Church-power but as King he is subject to none but to Christ from whom immediately he hath his kingly dignity even as saith he when an Emperours servant being a Physitian the Emperour as Emperour is not subject to the Physitian but only the Emperour as he is a wounded man is subject to the art of his owne servant who cureth him and that of the Emperour free-will not by coaction so the Image-maker or he who maketh pourtracts in his art is not subject to the King neither is the King as King
is a Church not assembled to prophecying and praying but to rebuking to judiciall censuring by binding and loosing where all private persons as their witnesses the offended brother be they publike or be they private persons yea suppose a woman otherwise forbidden to speake in the Church met for worship 1 Cor. 14. may speake in this Church for a woman may offend and be excommunicate or be offended for scandals betwixt woman and woman is to be removed 3. The Church spoken of here is such a superiour and judiciall seat as ought to be obeyed in the Lord under the paine of excommunication and to whose voice and sentence coactive the contumacious is said to be disobedient as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to disobey in the holy tongues doth signifie But a multitude of beleevers are no such superiour and judiciall seat as may be obeyed or disobeyed by inferiours under the paine of excommunication for it is without the warrant of Gods Word that all Christians Pastors Elders and Doctors are under the judiciall and coactive sentence of beleevers 4. What ever Church may excommunicate every member thereof convened with the Church may inflict all inferiour censures also for whosoever may inflict judicially the greater punishment may inflict the lesse but all the members of the Church of beleevers may not in this assembled Church inflict lesser punishments For example a woman a sonne a servant who are all equally the true members of the true Church of beleevers being beleeving professors may not in an assembled Congregation rebuke publikely her husband and Pastor his Father and Master For publike rebuking being a degree of teaching and especially in the assembled Church the Apostle will not have the woman to teach publikely and usurpe authority over the man nor any to exhort and rebuke in the Church but Pastors 5. These to whom the essence and definition of a Ministeriall Church having power to excommunicate as this Church hath that power Mat. 18. 17. doth necessarily and essentially belong these and these only are here understood under the name of the Church But so it is that the essence and definition of a Ministeriall Church having power to excommunicate agreeth not necessarily and essentially to a company of true beleevers assembled Church-wayes ergo by the name of a Church here is no wayes understood the Church of true beleevers assembled Church-wayes The proposition is undenyable for out of the words may be gathered a definition of a Ministeriall Church to wit an Assembly that has power of preaching and binding and loosing and so of all Church-censures I prove the assumption To have power to preach convene before them and judicially cognosce and sentence and excommunicate a contumacious member doth agree to these that by no necessity are beleevers because to have power to preach and excommunicate essentially require no more but that persons be 1. professors of the truth 2. that they be gifted to preach and governe 3. that they be duely called thereunto by the Church as Judas and others are but all these three are and may be in a company in whom is no saving faith as the word and experience cleare For howbeit to be a called Pastor the like I say of Elders Doctors Deacons and visible professors require faith in Christ as a gracious element and necessary ingredient to make him a saved man Yet it is not required to the essence of a Pastor Yea Parker Answorth and authors of Presbyter govern ex acknowledge professors to be members of a visible Church and so to have power of the keyes who are but rotten hypocrites and what wonder seeing God onely seeth the heart and men cannot see farre in a milstone 6. All the arguments proving that the power of the keyes is not given to all beleevers but onely to the overseers of the Church and proving that the government of Christs house is not popular but in the hands of the Elders proveth the same for this is a ruling and authoritative and judging Church 7. Pareus saith The Church here meaned is the Church to be complained unto but none can complaine to a multitude 8. The practise of the Apostolike Church 1 Cor. 1. The house of Eloe being grieved with the schisme of Corinth telleth not the whole beleevers but telleth it to Paul and in him to the Pastors who had the rod of discipline in their hands and the Spirit of God giveth rules about receiving complaints to the Eldership Tit. 1. 13. and never to all beleevers therefore the rebuking and excommunicating Church spoken of here must be the Church of Elders 9. The Church here is those to whom the keyes are given Mat. 16. 19. I will give to thee the keyes whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven but here the keyes are given to Peter and in him to the Apostles and those to whom he said Joh. 20. Whose sinnes ye forgive they are forgiven and whose sinnes ye retaine they are retained for that is to binde and loose in heaven as they should bind and loose on earth and to whom he said As my Father sent me so send I you but this Christ said to the Church of the Apostles and Elders for he hath not sent every beleever as his Father sent him for that is a Pastorall sending as is cleare from Mat. ●8 18. All power is given to me in heaven and in earth Hence he draweth a conclusion v. 19. Goe therefore and teach c. Which clearly includeth the keyes and power of preaching baptizing and governing which agreeth not to all beleevers in any tollerable sense As Theophilact Chrysostome Cyrill August Hieron Cyprian teach and that this place Ioh. 20. As my Father sent me so send I you cannot be common to all beleevers the Fathers teach Theophilact in loc He saith to them Enter ye in my ministeriall charge Cyrill in loc Chrysost. ibid. Creati sunt totius orbis Doctores Aug. in Psa. 44. Hieron Epist. and Evagrin Cyprian Epist. 41. in locum Pauli omnes successisse 10. The onely apparent Argument against this interpretation is weake and so our interpretation must stand For they say that the word Church is never taken but for a company of beleevers and the redeemed Eph. 2. 20. builded on the rocke Christ. I deny not but the word Church is very sparingly taken for the overseers onely yet it is taken in that sense and there is reason why it cannot bee otherwise taken in this place for Revelation 2. The Angell of the Church of Ephesus Smyrna c. standeth for the whole Church and the whole Church is written unto under the name of the Angell of such a Church Which may be demonstrated thus 1. because not only the Ministers but the people that have eares to heare are all
16. in Peters person who representeth all believers giving in their names this confession Thou are Jesus the son of the living God Answer 1. The proposition is not sure but a begging of the question for sometime Peter speaketh as a believer in name of the rest Iohn 6. 68. Mat. 19. 27. sometimes as a weake and sinfull man Matth. 26. 35. and as a Satan and adversarie to Christ Mat. 16. 23. Iohn 13. 8. sometime a command is given to him as an Apostle Iohn 21. 16 17. 2 I deny the Assumption He answereth in the name only of these to whom Christ propounded the question but Christ propounded the question as Chrysostome Augustine Theophylact Calvin Beza and Marlorat say only to the believing Disciples and Apostles then present and not to all the believers Parker his second and third reason is The promise of the Keyes agreeth with the confession but the confession is of all the faithfull 2. The nearer occasion wherefore the Keyes were promised to Peter was his second answer but the question was not concerning any thing proper to Churchmen but of that faith That Christ is the Sonne of God which is proper to all the faithfull So Hilarie Ambrose Augustine Theophylact so Whitaker Answer We may oppose Fathers to Fathers Origen Hieronymus Ambrose Cyprian teach that the keyes were given to Peter as the first in gifts and age and in his person Omnibus Apostolis successoribus Petri to all the Apostles and successors of Peter and so Augustine also Cyprian Optatus and Hierome for unities sake Peter only receiveth the Keyes but in him all the rest See more of this in Almaine and Petrus de Alliaco and Ioan. Major 2. I acknowledge the Fathers teach that Peter received the Keyes as Basil saith propter 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for the excellency of his faith that he received the keyes for and to all the faithfull as to the proper subject of the keyes God did promise an established kingdome to Ieroboam if he should walke in Gods statutes it followeth not therefore in the person of Ieroboam that an established kingdome is promised to all that walke in Gods statutes God might have rewarded the faith of Peter as he did the faith of Mary Magdalen and not have made him an Apostle for his confession God is free in his rewards and therefore I deny that the confession of Peter and his Apostolike dignitie is of alike length and bredth for to Peter here is promised not only the power but the exercise of the keyes by preaching the Gospell as is cleare vers 19. But I hope to all that believeth that Jesus is the sonne of God as to many private Christians women and children that believe the exercise of the keyes by preaching the Gospell is not given Are all Apostles are all Teachers 3. Suppose the Keyes were given to Peter because he believed and therefore as a believer which is a sickly consequence it followeth not Therefore the keyes are given to Peter and in him to all believers as to the subject but only that the keyes are given to all believers as the object and for their behoofe To say nothing that by this tenet all must bee believers to whom the keyes are given else the keyes are not given to them which is most absurd Parker 3. Reasoneth thus To be a Peter that is a constant rock and stable believer agreeth to all believers Ergo So doth the keyes to all believers Answer This reason if it hath the strength of a rock against the truth should prove that one constant believer and that a woman should have the power of the keyes but one believer is not the Church as Answorth granteth 2. I deny the consequence for so Iudas should have had no power of the Keyes because he was never a stable believer nor yet builded upon the Rock Parker yet fourthly reasoneth The keyes are promised to that Church which is builded upon a Rock and against which the gates of hell shall not prevaile but this is not the Church of Ministers but the Church of believers in Christ that is builded upon the rock Ergo Answer I deny that it hence followeth that therefore the keyes are given to the Church of believers as to the first subject so as the Church hath in her selfe this ministeriall power Only it followeth Therefore the keyes are promised to the Church builded upon Christ as to the object and end for which Christ intendeth the keyes for what is promised for the good and behoofe of the Church is promised to be given to the Church as God promiseth to his Church in the Prophets David that is Christ Davids sonne as their king that is a King for their salvation but it is not a good consequence Ergo Christs Kingly power is first promised to the Church as to the subject that she may derive that kingly power from her to Christ as our brethren say The Church of believers doth communicate a Ministeriall power and authoritie from her selfe to all her Officers See for this also Vasquez in 3. Tho. to 3. Disp. 144. cap. 5. Non quaecunque c. Whatever is given to Kings and Rulers as heads of the people are not given to the people Sixthly Parker thus reasoneth To whom the meanes of building on the Rock to wit the opening of heaven belongeth to these the keyes doe belong But the meanes of edifying one another which is only by the word in mutuall exhorting and rebuking and comforting belongetth to all the faithfull So Barrow So M. Smith If admonition saith he appertaine to every brother why not excommunication for there is power to binde and loose in two or three witnesses toward a brother and why not in the body of the whole Church Answer 1. The Major is false for the opening of heaven actively by preaching of the Word publikely in a constitute Church is only by the pastours as the edifying by the seal●s is onely by them but the opening of heaven passively that is opened heaven agreeth onely to believers Now the meanes actively that is a pastorall opening of heaven agreeth onely to officers not to all 2. Every edifying by the word is not an act of the keyes for there are two acts of the keyes one preparatorie Gradus ad rem vel mitium materiale this is one rebuking one and is not the action of the Church seeing one is not a Church this is onely a preparation to the Churches use of the Keyes as is cleare Matthew 18. 15 If he heare thee thou hast gained thy Brother the man is edifyed here and the matter is not dilated to the Churchs as it is verse 17. 18. The keyes are not yet used There is an other edifying by publike rebuking this is Gradus in re initium formale a formall act
of the keyes for if admonition private per modum communis charitatis and not per modum specialis delegationis were an act of the keyes then because an Elder woman is to instruct the younger one woman should have both the power and actuall exercise of the kyes towards an other woman this is absurd Their seventh Argument is from the Parisian Schoole All things are yours whether Paul or Apollo or Cephas c. So they cite Revel 2. 27. So Robinson and so Smith so Parker To whom Christ is given for a King to them the power of Christ the King is given Also to whome the covenant and Christ is given to them all the promises 2 Corinth 1. 10. Psalm 133. 3. Act. 2. 39. And so the power of binding and loosing is given Answer 1. All are yours finaliter that is all are for you avd tend to your salvation 2. All are yours in fructu in the fruit that God bringeth out of all Paul or Apollo their ministerie out of life and death that is faith comfort salvation are yours this is true But all are yours subjective inhaesive formaliter All are yours formally and in possession it is false for then yee should be all earthly Kings all Pastours to preach and administer the Sacraments 2. Christ and the promises are made to one single believer and that a woman a childe but a single woman is not the Church having power to bind and loose in heaven 3. The promise of binding and loosing is made to the faithfull that is for their good and edifying but not to them as the subject for in that place it is said The world life and death are yours how can the world be in the faithfull as in the subject They doe not possesse all the world how is death in them as the subject except they be dead 8. They reason thus Christ hath given in gift Pastors to the Church Ergo He hath given them the authoritie of Pastors for God mocketh not his Church to give them gifts whereof they are not capable Hence Parker inferreth that the power of the keyes is in the believers immediately and in the Rulers at the second hand and borrowed from them Answer First I retort the Argument Christ hath given the actuall exercise of the keyes the preaching of the Word and the administration of the Sacraments to the Church of believers will it hence follow that believers because they are believers are capable of the exercise of the keyes This is against Parker himselfe 2. Christ hath given Pastours to the Church in gift that is to the Church as the Subject and first disposer of these offices it is most false for the Rulers of the Church or Presbyterie is the first subject and these who authoritatively under Christ doe ordaine pastours the Church of believers doth only elect and choose them by a popular consent Christ hath given Pastours in gift to the Church that is for the Churches good and edification hence it followeth not that believers are uncapable of Pastours in the way and manner that they are given to them God mocketh not Israel when he giveth to them David as their King but it followeth not the people are the first subject of the Kingly power 9 Parker reasoneth thus ibid. The power spoken of Mat. 16. and 18. should be applyed to all the Church and to Christs friends not to his enemies there is no ecclesiastick power in heretikes and Schismatikes What is the cause seeing both heretikes and also believers doe exercise the power of the keyes that the keyes are given to the one that is to believers as to the end and not to heretikes Surely as Gyprian saith because the authoritie is given principally to believers as to the end and to them principally and to others secondarily as they are esteemed parts of the Church of believers and have their authoritie derived from believers Answer The power spoken of Mat. 16. 18. is given to the visible governing Church whether they be believers or hypocrites providing they be Pastours and Elders called lawfully by the presbyterie and chosen by the people and the power of the keyes is given to the eldership that hath the oversight of the flocke in the Lord 1 Thessal 5. as to the subject but yet this power is given to the Church of believers to gather them in to Christ and for the reprobate to cleare Gods justice and to make them inexcusable and there is no reason to aske a cause Why both believers and heretikes exercise the power of the Keyes seeing Christ gave this power to believers and not to heretikes for I say Christ hath given the power of the keyes to both when he gifteth both with abilitie to discharge the places and giveth them authoritie in his Church And it is a false ground and not farre from Anabaptisme that there is not Ecclesiasticall power in heretikes and Schismatikes Iudas and all called Pastors and Elders suppose they be before God but plaistered hypocrites and covered Wolves have no lesse the power of the keyes as is cleare Matthew 7. 22 23. Philippians 1. 16. then Paul or Peter And also it is false that Rulers have their authoritie from believers they have their offices by way of ordination from Christ and the Presbyterie and by way of popular election and designation from professors of the Church bee partly believers partly unbelievers 10. M. Smith reasoneth thus Christ gave the power of binding a●d loosing Mat. 18. not to the Presbytery but to Disciples and Bret●ren because vers 15. 17. the Disciples move a question concerning the Kingdome of Heaven and Christ teacheth that little ones that is Brethren and Disciples are not to be offended but to be sough when they are lost v. 15. he teaches the duties of admonition in the degrees thereof for the winning of brethren He speaketh of Brethren and Disciples attributing to them power of binding and loosing v. 19. promising the hearing of their prayers if they be but two or three v. 21. 22. teaching them remission of offences private unto seventy times seven times Answer All this dependeth upon this Argument If the whole scope and intent aime at Disciples and Brethren then power of binding and loosing is given to brethren which connexion is most false and loose Christ speaketh to believers of the power of the ministeriall Church or Preaching Baptizing Ergo Hee giveth to these hee speaketh unto and to all brethren power to binde and loose and preach and baptize This doth not follow for so a power to preach and baptize is given to believing women Christ speaketh to his Disciples as Disciples of the dominion of the Kings and Princes of the Gentiles of false Prophets Wolves in Sheep-skins ergo he giveth to his Disciples a power to be Kings and a warrant to be false Teachers it followeth no wayes 2. By a brother v. 15. is not meant a true believer but a brother in
profession else we are not to labour to gain by this text unbelieving brethren and to complaine to the Church of their obstinacie or to forgive them private offences done against us to seventie times seven times which is against the course of the Text. 3. By this glosse little Bairnes which are not to be offended are brethren which have power to binde and loose and preach and baptize which is absurd 4. It is cleare by the Church here is meant a Societie different from the faithfull and brethren that hee speaketh of for he will have the offended brother to rebuke before two or three brethren in private and if the offender heare not tell the Church Now three believers to whom the matter is already told is a Church to Master Smith for so he saith in that same place Then Christ biddeth tell the matter to the Church before the Church heare of it 5. Neither doth the hearing of prayers prove a ministeriall Church seeing God heareth the prayers of one believer in the Prison or the Whales belly but it is the doctrine of these with whom we now reason that six professing Christ being visible Saints who may be unseene Divels in heart and so neither Brethren Disciples nor little ones are an independent visible Church having power to binde and loose and therefore suppose Christ spake here to his Disciples and believers of the Churches power in excommunication it is a weake collection that therefore all Disciples have power to binde and loose And these words verse 18. Whatsoever ye bind on earth c. must be meant only of the Apostles and of the Church verse 18. yea and it must exclude Peter and his offending brother suppose they were both believers because parties by the Law of nature and Nations cannot be Judges But some say that these words What ye shall binde on earth shall be bound in heaven have reference to a private forgiving an● gaining of a convinced brother before witnesses vers 15. And a brother in private should forgive another to seventie times seven times 21. 22. Therefore private brethren may binde and loose Answer No private brother can binde on earth for then one brother might excommunicate for these words Whatsoever ye bind on earth c is a ratifying in heaven of the sentence of excommunication verse 17. 2. Binding in private must be a not forgiving of private wrongs which is a sinfull binding and forbidden verse 22. and Matthew 6. 14 And rather cannot be ratified in heaven as Ecclesiastick binding and loosing is verse 18. expresly made good and valid in heaven 11. Smith reasoneth thus The Covenant is made with the Church and so the promises of the covenant but cursing them that curse the Church and blessing them that blesse the Church Gen. 12. 3. and remission of sinnes which is a part of the blessing are given to believers as a part of the covenant Rom. 4. 7. 8. Therefore a power of binding and loosing from sin must be given to the Church as the covenant is given to her Answer The covenant is given to one believing woman ergo by this reason also power to baptize for Smith saith page 51. By one and the same power doth the Church preach pray baptize excommunicate absolve But this is absurd 2. Cursing and blessing Genes 12. and remission of sins Rom. 4. is not the private believers cursing and remission but Gods or the ministers publikely and authoritatively as sent of God And so it is a vaine collection 12. Smith reasoneth To whom Christ is given directly and immediately as King Priest and Prophet Vnto them all other things with Christ are given Rom. 8. 32. And so the Saints are made Kings Priests and Prophets to God to forgive bind and loose But Christ is given to all believers and so the power of binding and loosing to all believers Answer To whom Christ is given subjectively and formally as their gifted Redeemer to dwell into them by faith To them all things are given either subjectively as the personall blessings of the covenant a new heart remission of sinnes perseverance in grace or objectively and finaliter for their good other wayes if one manner of giving be understood in both it should follow that all the believers were temporall Kings and Princes which is most false for temporall princedomes are given for their good but not personally to themselves So the power of the keyes is given for their salvation but not to all believers personally It is in vaine to reason from the priviledges of believers as believers to inferre that all Ecclesiastick priviledges are personally given also to believers for then should all be Apostles all Teachers all the whole body should be an eye and where then should bee the hearing And this man taketh away all necessitie of a calling by the Church to the ministerie as doe the Arminians and Socinians Neither can hee maintaine that there is a twofold power of the keyes one remote belonging to men as Christians another nearer that is ecclesiasticall and given orderly by the Church for he and his followers will have all believers because they are believers in a visible Church actually to censure bind loose absolve excommunicate 13. Thus reasoneth Smith and so Parker The Spouse hath power immediately from the husband the body from the head without any intermediating power Ergo The believers have power of binding without the mediation of Elders Answer All comparisons halt either in one legge or other Every like halteth and the argument presupposeth a falshood that the power of binding and loosing is in the Church of believers mediately or immediately which we deny it is only in the ministeriall Church and conveyed from Christ to the Spouse as to the object and end in the fruits and effects 14 They lastly alledge Fathers Chrysostome saith The power of baptizing is given to the Church So Hierome The whole Church hath judiciarie power over the guides So Gratian Hugo a Sancto Victo Aquinas Gerson Councell of Constance Almaine for this coteth Augustine Answer Wee are not subject to Almaine or Gerson in this question they be otherwise expounded What is given for the Church is said to be given to the Church in the stile of Fathers So doe Ambrose Origen Beda Chrysostome say What was given to Peter was given to all faithfull Pastors And wee know that Chrysostome denyeth the power of baptizing to any but to Pastours 15. They also adde this He that may promise eternall life to a private believer and denounce wrath on an unbeliever hath power to open and shut heaven But a private believer who should exhort his brother Heb. 3. 13. teach and admonish Col. 3 16. Comfort him 1 Thes. 5. 11. may promise life to a believer denounce wrath to an unbeliever Ergo He may open and shut heaven for the word is the Key Answer One private Christian may use the
grant have authoritie of grace to be Kings and Priests to God for grace hath with it heavenly Majestie and authoritie but they have not authoritie officiall or power ecclesiastick they want both power of order and jurisdiction except they be called Pastours and Elders but then they are believers and somewhat more But if they want power of jurisdiction their power as members of the congregation is christian popular private not authoritative not a power of the keyes Grace true and saving addeth a faire lustre to the power of the keyes and doth graciously qualifie and adorn that power but where there is no power of the keyes in simple believers it cannot adorne it to please and embrouder a wicked man is not Christ. What is the power of believers shall be declared hereafter if God permit 4. Parker disputeth thus The Church-guides must be subject to the censures of the Church of believers whereof they are members The Colossians must say to Archippus take heed to the ministerie that thou hast received of the Lord. So Ambrose thinketh it the rulers even the Emperours honour to bee subject to the Church Nazian calleth the Emperour himselfe a sheepe of the flocke and subject to the tribunall as Bellarmine granteth and that tell the Church bindeth Peter and the highest ruler So Barrow Every member is bound to the edification service and utilitie of the whole body commanded to reprove his brother to bind their sins by the word of God even their Princes with chaines to admonish Archippus yea though an Apostle or Angell preached an other Gospell to pronounce him accursed Answ. That the Prelate should be above the Church and exempted from the lawes and censures of the Church whereof he is a Prelate is most unjust and this worthy Parker proveth unanswerably Emperours being pastours are under the lawes of Jesus Christ the highest lawgiver and so Ambrose and Nazianzen say well But hence is not proved because the Collossians are as private Christians to admonish or rubuke their pastour Archippus Therefore the body of believers have the power of the keyes to depose and excommunicate and consequently to ordaine and lay hands on pastours which is commanded and commended only to such as to Timothy and Titus and in them to the Elders and Presbyterie and that tell the Church doeth bind Peter and oblige all Pastors and Rulers to be lyable to the lawes and censures of the Church but by the word Church is not meaned the Church of believers but the Eldership of all incorporations ecclesiastick respective of congregations presbyteries and Synods as God willing I shall make good 3. Barrowes Scriptures are most corruptly wrested for Ioseph a prince did bind in fetters the Senators of Egypt therfore a private believer hath the keyes of the Kingdome of heaven to shut and open What reason is there here An Apostle or Angell preaching another Gospell is accursed it followeth not Therefore a private believer suppone a woman who is no lesse than a man bound to the edification service and utilitie of the whole body is to excommunicate an Apostle or an Angell who shall preach an other Gospell The keyes shall be too common if all private Christians may put to their hand and use them because they are to teach admonish rebuke comfort and edifie one another in a private and popular way any may see it is one thing for one member of the body to help one another by exhorting and rebuking which is a worke of common charitie and for pastors publikely as the ambassadors of Christ Jesus to use the keyes by publike preaching of the Gospell which is a worke of his pastorall charge yea these two differ as an act of obedience to the law of nature and common charitie and an act of obedience to a divine positive law 5. Parker reasoneth thus Coactive jurisdiction as excommunication is a meane of edification that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord 1 Corinthians 5. 4. Now the soules of guides Parker saith the soules of Prelates shall bee in a wors● case than the soules of the flocke if they bee not subject to a particular Church as Corinth for they want that meane of edification which others have Some say Synods are to take order with pasto●rs and not the Church of Believers But Papists answer The Bishop is to be judged by the Archbishop or Patriarch if they shall scandalously sinne then they are to be left to the Pope and the Generall Councell which cannot be had Answer I deny not but every pastour is subject in some things to the Eldership of the congregation where he is and if he were not lyable to lawes or censure hee were a pope but in the matter that deserveth deprivation he is only to be censured by the Presbyterie and Synods for a number of believers nay a number of Ruling Elders cannot deprive him because they cannot ordaine a pastour for the law saith well It is one power of the keyes to ordaine and to exauthorate and deprive But no word of God will warrant a number of believers to censure ecclesiastically their pastor not because hee is their pastor and they his flocke for so the Eldership of his owne congregation might not ecclesiastically censure him which I judge to be false but because the Church of sole believers hath not the power of the keyes and they have not power to censure any other believer except in a private way as fellow members of that same body but in a constitute Church a Colledge of pastors and Elders only hath power to deprive or excommunicate a pastour and there remaineth CHRISTS way of edification that hee bee in this case censured by Synods But yee will say this is the Papists answer I answer it is not for they will have the pastour censured by the Prelate the Prelate by the Arch-Prelate which we deny as Antichristian for all are to be by the Church But Synods m●y erre Then appe●le to a greater Synod for united force is stronger But they also you will say may errr● I answer and the Congregation of sole beleevers is not free from error but this doctrine of our brethren shall resolve all government in the hands of th● people as in the highest and most soveraigne ju●icature which is to make all Pastors all oversee●● all Judges 6. Parker reasoneth from the necessary defence of the Church Every particular Church is an Armie a Ship a body 1 Cor. 12. Therefore when they are neare danger they have power to take order with a drunken Pilot and put him from the rud●er and to take order with a tyrann●u● Capt●ine and to purge out the filth and excrements of the body So politicians as Keckerman Hottomanus say a wicked Magistrate is to be deposed if no other remedy can be found So Gerson Answ. It is one thing what a multitude may doe in a desperate case of necessity
and Pauls Epistles to Collosse Eph●sus Galatia laid an Ecclesiasticall tye upon these Churches that consented not to the writing of these Epistles not onely because the matter is the Canonicke word of God but also the tye was Ecclesiasticall in so farre as the flocke is obliged to heare the Pastor according to that He that heareth you heareth me and he that despiseth you despiseth me Any absent through sicknesse or other distractions from the election of Matthias Acts 1. the seven Deacons Acts 6. and the Elders chosen in every City Acts 14. 23. were tyed to stand to the election of Matthias the seven Deacons and the Elders in every City else no act of the Church were valid where one or two dis-assenteth or where two or three are absent by sicknesse and other distractions insuperable And so here our brethren I beleeve cannot in reason deny but there is a representative Church whose deed tyeth the absents And the reason is cleare that to make a Church-constitution oblige in conscience and ecclesiastically there is not required as an essentiall ingredient of obligation that all and every one who are tyed and obliged be personally present to voyce and consent to the constitution for constitutions tye Ecclesiastically as made by the Church but not as made by all and every one of the Church And the lawfulnesse of Commissioners to represent the case of the Church is cleare in Gods Word as Antioch sent Commissioners to Jerusalem Acts 15. Jerusalem sent Barnabas their Messenger to Antioch 11. 22. But Titus Timotheus Epaphroditus and others were sent by the Churches and to the Churches as Commissioners and Embassadours of the Church of Christ. CHAP. VIII Quest. 8. If our Saviour doth warrant a Church of Elders and Overseers in these words Mat. 18. Tell the Church WE have an argument of weight for a Presbyteriall Church in our Saviours words Mat. 18. 17. If thy brother offending neglect to heare them the Christian witnesses before whom he is convinced of his ●ault tell the Church but if he neglect to heare the Church Let him be to thee as a heathen and a Publicane v. 18. Verily I say to you whatsoever ye bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever ye lose on earth shall be loosed in heaven The Septuagint agreeth with Matthew 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 So Arias Montanus Tremell Beza Pareus Musc●lus Lyra Hug. Cardinalis Caieta● Aquinas It is not much matter that Castalio turneth Tell the Assembly of the Commons Augustine Cyprian Hyeronim and all are against him The scope of these words is not as many beleeve that our Saviour setteth downe a way how to remove private offences done betwixt brother and brother onely 1. Because the words then should not prove the lawfulnesse of excommunicating for publike and scandalous sinnes 2. The scope is as large as binding and loosing on earth and proportionally in heaven But our Saviours ayme is to establish a Church consistory for removing all scandals and offences out of the Church private and publike betwixt brother and brother and betwixt Church and Church Neither is there ground for the foresaid scope because he saith If thy brother offend in the singular number for what if three sixe tenne brethren offend is not this course of our Saviours to be taken if sixe offend sixe Hence it followeth that the Church here signifieth not onely the Eldership of a particular Congregation but it signifieth respectively all Presbyteries and Synods Provinciall Nationall and Oecomenicke for seeing Excommunication and Ecclesiasticall binding and loosing is Christs remedy against all scandals private or publike in Christs kingdome then by a brother by a Synechdoche is meant all that offendeth then if a sister-Church offend a sister-Church or a Provinciall or Nationall Church offend a neighbour sister-Church Christs remedies being Catholike and universall as farre as our diseases goe the course must be to Tell the Church I purpose then first to shew this interpretation to be agreeable to the mind of all Doctors acknowledging one Church of Elders here and next to prove our interpretation Chrysostome Tell the Overseers Augustine Tell the Watchmen Hieron We must tell many So Cyprian so the Councell of Ancyra So Ambrose Ball saith The Aethiopicke Interpreter saith Tell the house of Christians Boderian Tell the house of Judgements All our Divines say this Calvin Beza Pureus Chemnitius Aretius Erasmus Polunus Hemmigius Hyperius Musculus Iunius Piscator Bucanus Rivetus Cartwright Marlorat Dan. Tossun Bu●er The harmony of confess Helvet French English Vrsine Whittaker So Papists Emanuel S● Victor Parisian Doctors Fathers of Basill and Constance Joan Gerson Iac. Almain Simon Vigorius Aquinas Occam What Bilson Downam Sutluvius saith against this is answered by Parker Ant. Waleus and other worthy divines That the Church of Elders is here understood I prove Christ here alludeth to the Synedry and Consistory of the Jewes with which his hearers were well acquainted for he was now speaking to the Jewes who knew his language well and knew these termes Brother witnesses Sunedry Assembly Congregation Heathen Publicane and knew what Church had power to cast out and repute men for Publicanes and sinners For as Beza observeth who would understand Christ here to speake of a Christian Presbytery that has power to excommunicate except we consider that Christ has a respect in this forme of speech to the Iewes Church-policy And Christ in like manner Mat. 5. 22. accomodateth his speech to the forme of the Jewes judicatories For many learned note out of the Talmud that the Jewes had three judicatories noted there 1. The Triumviri judged small matters 2. Their Synedry consisting of twenty three judges more weighty matters and inflicted more weighty punishments and 3. the great Councell of 71. Judges did handle questions about false prophets the High-priest and of other weightiest causes and therefore he sheweth the punishment of an offending brother amongst the Iewes too darkly but these judicatories were well knowne to them And here excommunication is expressed in Jewish tearmes in use at that time Let him be to thee as a heathen that is a stranger from the common wealth of Israel not one of the true Chu●ch but such a one as they called Goijm So Drusius and Beza on this place Now Tell the Church Kahal to those that know the Iewes forme of speech must be Tell the Elders of the Congregation amongst them the multitude no more judged causes then we would thinke him excommunicated who is esteemed one not 〈◊〉 borne of Abraham and so all the whole Church of the Gentiles should be excommunicated So Franc. Iohnson 2. The Church of beleevers convened together is still a Church met together for hearing the Word receiving the Sacraments 1 Cor. 11. 18 19. 1 Cor. 14 19 20 21. In which none are to speake but Pastors and as the Separatists say Prophets and not all private persons but this
bought with a price all things are theirs and therfore all power which consequence is no stronger the one way then the other 9. It layeth a blot upon Christs wisdome who hath appointed congregations to be edified by no power of the keyes in case of aberration a●d incorrigible obstinacy 10. It maketh the Word of God imperfect which setteth downe no Canons how the believers of an independent Church should governe and Paul teacheth how Timothy and Titus and all Church-men should governe 11. It excludeth not women from usurping authority over men by judging excommunicating ordaining pastors seeing they are the body and Spouse of Christ as believing men are 12. It maketh the Sacraments no Sacraments the baptized non-baptized and in the place of Turkes if possibly the pastour and the ten professours of the independent Church be unbelievers which is too ordinary 13. By this an assembly of Pastors and Elders from divers congregations have no more the power of the keyes then one single man who may counsell and advise his brother 14. Extreme confusion and inevitable schismes hence arise whilst such a sister-Church saith I am Pauls and her sister-Church saith I am Apollo's and there is no remedy against this fire 15. The patterne of a Church governing and ministeriall consisting of only believers is neither in all the Scriptures antiquity nor in the writings of Divines But of these I shall speake more fully hereafter God willing 4. Argument That Doctrine is not to be holden which tendeth to the removing of a publick Ministry but the doctrine of independent Churches is such Ergo the doctrine of independent Churches is not to be holden The proposition is out of doubt seeing Christ hath ordained a publick Ministry for the gathering of his Church Ephes 3. 11. 1 Cor 11. 1 Cor 14 1 Tim 3. 1 2 3. Heb 13. 17. 1 Thess 5. 12 13. 1 Cor 5. 4. Math 16. 19. Math 28. 18. Joh 20. 21 22 23. I prove the assumption By the doctrine of independency two or three or ten or twelve private Christians in a private Family joyning themselves covenant-waies to worship God is a true visible Church So the English Puritanisme So a Treatise called Light for the ignorant So the Guide to Zion So the Separatists holding Independent Congregations define a visible Church Every company Congregation or Assembly of true believers joyning together according to the order of the Gospell in the true worship is a true visible Church This being the true definition of an independent congregation from the writings of the Patrons thereof I prove that it taketh away the necessity of publick ministery 1. because every twelve in a private Family is this way joyned together and is an independent Church 2 this congregation being independent it hath within it selfe the power of the keyes and is not subject saith the English Puritanisme to any other Superiour ecclesiasticall jurisdiction then to that which is within it self But 1 Katherin against M. Edwards saith p. 7 8. Private Christians have the Spirit Ergo they may pray Answ God forbid we deny but they both may and ought to pray continually but hence it followeth not affirmativè à genere ad speciem therfore they may authoritatively not being called of God as was Aaron and invade the pastors chaire and pray and fast and lay on hands by ministeriall authority as the pastors doe Act 6. 6. Act 13. 3. 2. The Church saith the Feminin Authour p. 8. is not blinde so that none have power of seeing but only the officers Answ. All believers see and discerne true and false teachers 1 Iohn 4. 1. Heb 5. 14. 2 Cor 3. 18. Psal 119. 18. Ephes 1. 17. but it followeth not affirmativè à genere a● speciem the●fore they doe all see as the eye of the body with an authoritative and pastorall light and eye for then all the body should be an eye where were then the hearing 2 Cor. 12. 17. 3 Within it self there is no jurisdiction ministeriall for in the definition of a Church ministeriall there is deepe silence of Ministers or office-bearers and good reason by their grounds who hold it For it is a society of believers joyned together covenant wayes in the true worship of God which society hath power to ordain and elect their owne pastors and Elders here is the power of the keyes to bind and loose on earth as Christ bindeth and looseth in Heaven Math 18. 18. chap 16. 19 and a ministeriall act of these keyes to wit the ordaining of Pastours Doctors Elders and Deacons before there be any Pastor Doctor or Elder or Deacon A ministery then must only be necessary ad benè esse non ad esse simpliciter to the better or wel-being of the independent Church and not to the simple being of the Church for the thing must have a perfect constituted being and essence before it can have any operation and working proceeding from that being as one must be a living creature indued with a sensitive soule before it can heare or see or touch now this independent Church must have the perfect essence and being of a ministeriall Church seeing it doth by the power of the keyes within it selfe constitute and ordaine her owne Ministers and Pastors and if they were joyned in the worship of God before they had Ministers they did in a visible way being a visible Church in the compleate being of a visible Church worship God before they had Ministers for before they ordaine their Ministers they must keepe the Apostolick order fast and pray and lay on their hands for so did the Apostles Act 1. 24. Acts 6. v. 6. Acts 13. 3. Act 14. 23. 1 Tim 4. 14. 2 Tim 1. 5. So here are publick fasting publick praying publick ordination of a visible and independent Church and as yet they have no Ministers So in case the Eldership of a congregation shall all turne scandalous and hereticall this same independent congregation may excommunicate them Ergo before excommunication they must publickly and by the power of the keyes convince them of Heresie rebuke them pray for them and finally by the spirit of Paul a Pastor 1 Cor 5. 4. judicially cast them out Now let all be Judges if this be farre from pastorall preaching and if here be not ministeriall acts and the highest judiciall and authoritative censure exercised by no Ministers at all and what hindreth by this reason but the independent Church that doth publickly and authoritatively pray fast rebuke convince gainsayers make and unmake by the power of the keyes pastours and Ministers may also without Ministers preach and administer the Sacraments against which the Separatists themselves doe speake and give reasons from Scripture that none may administer the Sacraments untill the pastors and teachers be chosen and ordained in their office But hence we clearly see an independent Church constituted in its compleat essence and exercising ministeriall acts and using the keyes without any ministry
1. Because an offended brother cannot have a Synod of Elders and a Nationall Assembly alwayes to complaine unto and so Christ shall not set downe an expedite way to remove scandals betwixt brother and brother 2 Christ say they is setting downe a way how an obstinate offendor shall be cast out of the Church where he was an ordinary hearer of the word and a compartner with other professors of the holy things of God in a particular visible Church Now these of divers Congregations partake not in a Church-communion of these same holy things of God Word Sacraments and Discipline Answ. 1. Christ here setteth down a way how all offences of brethren may be taken away for Christs salve must be as broad and large as the soare and excommunication must reach as farre as offences but offences are betwixt Church and Church betwixt the Grecians and the Hebrewes Acts 6. 1. no lesse then betwixt a single brother and a brother 2. I borrow the Argument and pay it home againe Christ setteth downe a way how all scandals in his visible Church may be removed So teach our brethren as an offended brother cannot alwayes have recourse to a Nationall Assembly and so Christs remedy shall be insufficient If by a Church Mat. 18. we understand a Synod say they but when the Grecian Church offendeth the Hebrew Church the Hebrew Church cannot complaine to the Grecian Church for the Law forbiddeth the party to be the Judge therefore if they understand Mat. 18. onely a Congregation excluding all Synods Christs remedy of removing scandals betwixt Sister and Sister-church shall be unsufficient therefore the Grecian and Hebrewes must have recourse as Act. 6. to a Colledge of Apostles and Pastors and that is a Synod 3. I borrow the other Argument also and shall pay it againe These who are consociated and neighboured together in the Acts and Dentees of visible Church-communion by rebuking one another Leviticus 19. 17. Admonishing Collosians 3. 16. Exhorting Hebrewes 3. 13. comforting one another 1 Thess. 5. 11. and pleading one against another Hosea 2. 2. and occasionally communicating one with another in that same Word and Sacrament and in eschewing the fellowship of one and the same excommunicate person These make up one visible politick Church that is under a common Church-government according to Christs discipline which regulateth these acts of Church-communion of one with another But so it is that Grecians and Hebrewes and sundry particular sister-Churches are consociated and neighboured together in the fore-said acts and dentees of visible Church-communion c. Ergo divers sister-Churches so make up one visible politick Church under one common Church government according to Christs discipline c. The proposition is our brethrens wherby they proove and that strongly that single professours consociated in these acts and dentees of visible Church communion make up one visible Church under one common governement and so say the Fathers Basil Chrysostome Augustine and Athanasius howbeit in habitation we be separated y●t are we one body and Cyprian will have nothing done in the cause of many Churches except wee all meete in one place The assumption for the communion of sundry Churches Parker granteth and the Scripture is cleare Laodicea and Colosse have a sister-communion in that same word of God Col 4. 16. so Corinth Macedonia and Galatia in these same acts of charity to the Saints at Jerusalem 1 Cor 16. 1 2 3 4. see also 2 Cor 8. 1. Rom 16. 27. Also if any person be excommunicate in one congregation also in all the neighbour congregations 1. Because his sinnes are bound in Heaven 2 He is delivered to Satan 1 Cor. 5. 4. to all 3. Christ saith he should be as an Heathen to all and so is excluded from Church communion to all Hence these visible acts of Church communion require a common law and discipline of Christ to regulate them seeing they may offend in the excesse and defect one to another but one common discipline they cannot have except they may by authority conveene in one Synod in their principall members Also Field Bilson Whittaker alleadge this place for Synods all say if Pastors have authority every one within themselves and farre more when they are met in a Synod for vis unita fortior united force is stronger Our eighth Argument is from the constant practise of the Apostles if all weighty affaires that concerne equally many particular congregations were managed not by one single congregation but by the joynt voyces and suffrages of Apostles Pastors and selected Brethren of many congregations in the Apostolick Church Then were Synods the practice of the Apostles and n●t independent congregations but the former is true Ergo so is the latter The proposition our brethren grant I prove the assumption by an induction 1. The select Pastors of the Christian world and select brethren Act 1. did elect and ordaine Matthias to be one of the twelve because that concerned many particular Churches the publick treasury of Apostolick Churches was committed to the Apostles because that concerned them all Act. 4. 33 34. When the Churches of the Grecians and the Churches of the Hebrewes murmured the one against the other one common Synod of the twelve Apostles authoritatively conveened and ordained with praying and laying on of hands the seven Deacons Act. 6. 2 3 4 5. and Walleus saith the argument for ordaining Deacons that the Pastors might attend the word and prayer proveth also that there were then ruling Elders Also Act. 20. 28. there is a Synod of Pastors at Ephesus whom Paul warned to take heed to the flocke and Act 11. 2. Peter giveth a reckning and count of his going in to the Gentiles before a Synod of Apostles and Brethren for it was unpossible that the multitude of believers now growne so numerous could all meete in one house and Act. 21. 18. an Assembly of Apostles and Elders orda●neth Paul to purifie himselfe a Synod of Elders 1 Tim 4. 14. ordained Timothy 9. Argument is from the care of Christ Iesus the head of the Church in the end of excommunication Hence if Christ Jesus take care that one particular congregation be not leavened and sowred with the wicked conversation of one then farre more will he take care that many Churches be not leavened and hath ordained excommunication for many as for one but our brethren grant he hath taken care that one lump leaven not one single congregation 1 Cor. 5. 4. c. I prove the proposition For Christs remedy for remooving of scandals is hence argued to be unperfect if excommunication doe not remove all offences and prevent the leavening of many lumpes for he that careth for the part must far more care for a whole Church and ordaine excommunication of a Church for the edifying therof 1 Cor. 4. 20 21. 2 Cor. 10. 8. That their spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord 1 Cor.
5. 4. 5. and since he tooke this care for a Nationall Church Numb 5. 2 3 4 5. Who can doubt but he hath care of edifying and saving in the day of the Lord Churches of Nations and Provinces under the New Testament yea and a greater care then for saving one single man seeing the influence of his love is bounded first upon the body bride and spouse by order of nature before it be bounded upon one finger or toe or any particular member of the body I meane one single person They answer God hath provided other meanes for whole Churches then to excommunicate them for it wanteth precept promise and practice to excommunicate a whole Church th●y are to be rebuked and we must pleade with obstinate Churches Hos. 2. 2. and if they remaine obstinate we are to with-draw our fellowship an● communion from them and not to acknowledge them as sister-Churches that is we are to separate from them but there is no warrant to excommunicate them Answ. 1. I say this is a begging of the question for we desire a warrant of Gods Word why sister-Churches may use some power of the keyes against sister-Churches such as is to rebuke them plead with them Hos. 2. 2. and yet we may not use all power of the keyes even excommunication now to rebuke and pleade against a Church to Parker and our brethren is a power of jurisdiction and a sort of closing and shutting of Heaven 2. The Iewes did justly excommunicate the Church of the Samaritans and Christ alloweth therof Iohn 4. 22. ye worship ye know not what salvation is of the Jewes in which words Christ pronounceth the Iewes to be the true Church and the Samaritans not to be the true Church 3. I desire to know what excommunication is if it be not to deny all Church-communion with those who were once in our Church now if this be done by one Sister-church to another sister-church it is no excommunication at all seeing Christ hath not given the power of the keyes to one Sister-church over another for one particular Church is not set over another in the Lord but when the Eldership of many consociated Sister-churches denieth Church communion to one of these consociated Churches having turned obstinate in scandalous sins I see not what this is els but excommunication and authoritative unchurching and ejection of such a Church Also our brethren pleade for the peoples power in excommunicating because all and ●very one of the beleevers are to eschew the company of the person excommunicated therfore all and every one should have hand in excommunicating him as all Israel and not the Judges onely were actors in putting away the leaven so reasoneth Parker M. Best so also the Separatistes yea if it bee right taken so also saith Beza P. Martyr Calvin Marlorat So Chrysostome Augustine for all are to consent to the excommunication of one who is a member of that visible Church with themselves but so it is that all consociated Churches are to eschew the company of an excommunicated by a single congregation supposed by our brethren to be independent Because 1. if they admit him to the Lords Supper with them they prophane the holy things of God 2. They annull excommunication supposed by our brethren duely clave non errante inflicted and so they loose on earth kim whom God hath bound in Heaven they hold him for a member of Christ and a brother whom Christ hath delivered to Satan and will have to be reputed as a Heathen and a Publican Ergo by this reason all should have hand in excommunicating such a person but many Sister-churches consociated together in neighbourly and sisterly Church-fellowship as we heard before cannot excommunicate in their owne persons being possibly twenty severall congregations Therefore they must excommunicate in their Elderships synodically conveened which is our purpose we intend It is but a womanly evasion of the Femall authour who differenceth betwixt rejection of an offending Church and excommunication We may reject saith she an offending Church but not excommunicate Saul rejected God did he therefore excommunicate God ●or this is but a suting of the question it is not simple rejection of an obstinate Church that we plead for but an authoritative unchurching and not acknowledging of an obstinate Church to be any more a Church with whom we can communicate in the holy things of God and this is more then simple rejection or refusing to obey as Saul is said to reject God I grant we seldome find the practice of excommunicating Churches in the New Testament because so long as a number of beleevers are in a Church God leaveth them not all to be involved in one scandalous grosse sinne therfore the presbytery is to censure particular persons and not the whole Church therfore when we separated from Rome which was an authoritative declaration that Rome is now no longer a Spouse of Christ but a strumpet we did not separate from the faithfull lurking amongst them 10. Argument That government is not from Christ that is deficient in the meanes of propagation of the Gospell to Nations and congregations that want the Gospell But the government by independent congregations is such The proposition is cleare 1. Because Christs keyes are perfect and opens all lockes 2. Our Divines hence prove Christ a perfect Mediatour King Priest and Prophet because he perfectly cureth our threefold misery I prove the assumption by the doctrine of independency Pastors and Doctours may not preach the Gospell without the bounds of their owne congregation neither can they exercise any pastorall acts else where saith the English Puritanisme and M. Best and so Pastors and Doctors have now since Apostles are out of the world and the Churches are planted no authority pastorall to preach the Gospell to those who sit in the region and shaddow of death and if they preach the Gospell to those who are not of their congregation 1. They doe it as private men not as Pastours 2. They have no pastourall authority or calling from Jesus Christ and his Church so to doe But certainely Papists as Bellarmine Suarez Becanus Vasquez Gregor de Valentia seeme to say better who will have the authoritative power of sending Pastors to Nations who want the Gospell to be in the Pope whom they conceive to be an universall Pastor to care for the whole Churches so Christ hath left no pastorall authority on Earth in Pastors and Doctors to make those the Churches of Christ and to translate them to the kingdom of grace who are yet carried away with dumbe Idols and howbeit the Apostles and their universall commission ordinary to preach the Gospell to all their immediate calling their extraordinary gifts be now out of the world yet it is unbeseeming the care of Christ that pastorall authority should be so confined at home and imprisoned within the lists of every particular
the people to heare the word is taken from a civill forme of both Romanes and Grecians convening to heare declamations and Panygerickes yet a Parishionall Church is not for that a humane and unlawfull Church 2. We say not that a Synod is a properly so called mysticall Church yet it s a proper ministeriall and teaching Church such as is Acts 15. 8. They object The Popish superiority of one Church over another should be lawfull if a Church be in bondage under a Church better be under a great Lord Pope and a little Lord Prelate as under many Nationall Lords in a Nationall Church-Assembly Answ. 1. We make no other subjection here then our brethren make for they make ten to be subject to ●●ve hundred in an independent Congregation As the part is in subjection to the Lawes of the whole so make we many Churches in Cities Townes and Provinces subject in the Lord to all their owne Pastors and Elders convened in a Nationall Assembly Papists make their Synods to lay bonds upon the consciences of men 2. Their Synods cannot erre 3. The Lord Prelate over ruleth them 4. They make things indifferent necessary 5. People may not examine Decrees of their Synods according to Gods Word 6. People may not reason or speake in their Synods We acknowledge no such Synods 2. Papists as Bellarmine Costerus Pierius doe not thinke Synods very necessary they call the Popes determination an easier way for ending controversies then Councels and therefore Pierius saith here frustra sit per plura c. 9. They object If a representative Church consisting onely of Pastors Doctors and Elders be a Church of Christs institution it should have a Pastor over it as all Churches have and if it be a generall Councell the Pastor thereof can be no other then the Pope and there beh●ved to be also an universall Consistory of Cardinals Answ I deny both these consequences a feeding governing and ministeriall Church doth not necessarily require a Pastor over it Timothy is a Pastor to himselfe and by preaching both saveth himselfe and others 1 Tim. 4. 16. 2. Cardinals are degrees above Pastors and Prelates our Synods are made up as Acts 15 of Pastors Elders and Brethren whereof we acknowledge no Pastor of Pastors but Christ Jesus no Doctor of Doctors no Elder of Elders and so I see not what this consequence meaneth 10. They object That which concerneth all should be handled by all Quod omnes tangit ab omnibus tractari debet but matters of disci●line concerne the conscience and practise of all Ergo all and every beleever should handle matters of discipline and not some few of a whole Nation who representeth the rest Answ. That which concerneth all one and the same way and the manner should be handled by all That which concerneth all divers and sundry manner of wayes should be handled by all divers manner of wayes If ten men be owners of a ship nine of them cannot sell the ship without the consent of the tenth owner If all both Elders or Ministers and the whole company of beleevers had one and the same power of the keyes we see not but all Ministers and people should have a like hand in voicing and coucluding nor doe I well see that if the keyes be given to all beleevers upon our brethrens former ground because they are the body and Spouse of Christ how women and beleeving children can be excluded from joynt-governing and use of the keyes except in the act of publike teaching 1 Cor. 14. 34. 35. 1 Tim. 2. 12. with Pastors Doctors and Elders seeing they are the body and Spouse of Christ no lesse then men God accepteth no persons nor sexes male or female in these spirituall priviledges Gal. 3. ●8 2 Cor. 6. 18. 1 Pet. 3. 4 5 6. But seeing discipline concerneth all divers wayes according as God hath seated and placed persons in his Church some in higher and some in lower places of Christs body therefore Ministers are to handle points of doctrine and discipline in Synods authoritatively People also by electing Commissioners to Synods by consenting reasoning proposing and advising and according to their place ●ot authoritatively 11. They object It is a Popish abusing of the people of God to exclude them from all government of Gods house and all meanes of edifying one another and leade on the people in an implicit faith and ●ind obedience Answ. This objection toucheth the question anent the power of private Christians in edifying one another where I must stay a little to cleare doubts for divers run in extremities here Hence our 1. Conclusion We utterly condemne the doctrine of Separatists who teach that private Christians gifted with knowledge suppose they be out of office are to preach the Gospell and to prophesie publikely for the edefying of the Church 1. Because by consent of all sound Divines all antiquity and confession of party and Pauls testimony Eph. 4. 11. there are none given of Christ when he ascended on high for the publike edefying of the Church and gathering of the Saints to Christs second comming save only Pastors and Doctors and Elders But the private gifted men are to edefie by publike prophecying and they be none of Christs officers and they are unlawfull teachers 2. To preach publikely as ordinary messengers I say ordinary because of our expectants of the ministery who preach by the call of the Church for a time as the Sonnes of the Prophets while they be ordained Pastors To preach I say publikely is a formall act of Pastors who are sent Rom. 10. but these Prophets are not sent Ergo they ought not to preach They answer but as Anabaptists and Socinians doe who say to be gifted of God is to be sent but I answer Paul Rom 10. 14 15. thinketh not so because he understandeth such a sending as is required in ordinary Pastors who begetteth faith in their hearers v. 14. and whose feet are beautifull upon the monntaines by bringing glad tidings of peace v. 15. Now these were such as both were gifted and had authority to preach 2. Christ Mat. 10. clearly differenceth gifting of Pastors v. 1. from authoritative sending v. 5. v. 16. And also John 20 21 22 23. 3. Because God challengeth such as run and the Lord sendeth them not Jer. 23. 21. 4. Because no man taketh that honour on him except he be called of God as was Aaron Heb. 5. Suppose he be gifted as our Saviour was 6. Publike Preachers have power authoritative to binde and loose and accordingly God bindeth and looseth in heaven but private beleevers have not this power but only Pastors Mat. 18. 18. Mat. 16. 19. John 20. 23. 7. Such Preachers they dreame to be in the old Testament but the ●ld Testament speaketh of none but men in office as Priests Levites Prophets c. M. Robinson saith 1 Cor. 14. There were gifted ordinary Prophets not in office who preached
actibus elicitis in acts performed by an intrinsecall power in the agent he hath no power for the King as King cannot preach himselfe nor baptize c. as the will may command the eye to see the feet to walke but the will doth not see nor walk Here two errours are to be rebuked 1. Whitgift saith the King is not the head of the Church as it is a society of elect and believers for so the government is spirituall but he is the head of the Church as it is a visible society in externall government comprehending good and evill For 1. The government visible and externall is meerly ecclesiasticall by Christs spirituall lawes and censures of rebuking binding loosing and excommunicating but the King is not an ecclesiasticall person and so not the head who hath any intrinsecall influence as King in these acts 2. He is the head of the persons who make the Church and so is a politick head but he is not the head of the Church visible as it is such The head visible and member● are of one nature the King as King is a politicke and civill head the visible Church is not a politick and civill but an ecclesiastick body so Camero erreth who will have all Church-men synodically constituting and decreeing Canons and in all acts of externall government subordinate to the King as King as the instruments and servants are subordinate to the principall cause and first commander 1. Because then the King should be the principall ecclesiastick matter and prime Canon maker the King the first excommunicater when the Church excommunicateth but the members of a Church-Synod are immediately subordinate to Christ whose servants and instruments they are and not the servants of the King Nathan as a man was Davids servant but as a Prophet he was Gods servant and not Davids servant Hence a third errour of court sycophantes must be rejected that the King hath a negative voice in discipline and in Church-Assemblies which is most false 1. Because Christ hath promised to lead his Church in all truth to be with her to the end to be in the midst of his owne assem●led in his name and this promise Christ maketh and keepeth under Heathen Kings who have no voice at all in Church-Assemblies 1 Cor. 4 5. Math. 18. 23. Act. 15. 28. 2. If the acts of Church-Assemblies have no ecclesiasticall power without the consent of a Christian ●rince by that same reason the acts of publick preaching baptizing and administring the Lords Supper should lay no ecclesiasticall bond upon mens consciences except the King should consent unto these acts but the latter is against the Word of God Jer. 1. 10. Jer. 1. 18 19. 2 Cor. 10. 4 5. and most absurd Ergo so is the former I prove the connexion because that same power of Christ which is given to the Church conveened for acts of discipline is given for preaching and the conferring of the seales of the covenant for the Church hath the keyes to bind and loose from Christ equally independent upon any mortall man in discipline as in doctrine so in discipline the Kings power cannot be to impede all acts of discipline or to make them null except he consent to them 3. Because these words are absolutely made good without the interveening of any other authority Whatsoever ye binde on earth shall be bound in Heaven and whatsoever ye loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven els Christ would have said whatsoever the King or civill Magistrate shall binde on earth shall be bound in Heaven otherwise nothing is ratified on earth or Heaven either which the Church bindeth or looseth because the King saith not Amen to it 4. If a contumacious brother shall refuse to heare the Church hee is not for that to bee excommunicated and to be reputed an Heathen and a Publican because the civill Magistrate doth not repute him such an one 5. Of that free grace wherby God heareth the prayers of two or three agreeing to pray for one thing on earth the Lord bindeth and looseth in heaven that which his Church bindeth and looseth on Earth Mat. 18. 19. but the Lord heareth the prayers of two or three agreeing to pray for one thing on Earth though the civill Magistrate doe not give his consent that these prayers be heard and granted of God because the Magistrate is no intercessour without whose consent God heareth not prayers The proposition is cleare from Matthew 18. ver 18 19. 6. If the Magistrate have such a joynt power of binding and loosing and of forgiving and reteining sins with the Church then also with the Apostles and their successours but Christ gave this power to his Apostles without any such condition Matth. 28. 18 19. John ●0 22 23. and they practised this power without consent of the Magistrate and preached and excommunicated against his will 1 Tim. 1. 19 20. 1 Cor. 5. 4. yea as the Father sent Christ so should the Father have sent the civill Magistrate for so are they sent who have power to forgive and retaine sinnes John 20. 21 22 23. 7. That power which upon just reasons we deny to the Pope that we cannot give to the King but upon just reasons we deny to the Pope a negative voyce in Councels to anull lawfull Councels conveened in the name of Christ except he who is the virtuall Church say Amen thereunto neither is the King the virtuall Church 8. If a woe be due to a Pastor if he preach not suppose the Magistrate should forbid him to preach then also is a woe due to the Church which useth not the keyes though the Magistrate forbid then hath the Magistrate no such voyce and if the Church of Pergamos be rebuked for not using the power of the keyes against these who held the Doctrine of Balaam and the Nicolaitanes even when the Magistrate was a killer of the witnesses of Jesus then the Magistrat● hath no such negative voyce for it should not be possible to censure the followers of such Doctrine seeing hee was against both Doctrine and Discipline but the Lord reproveth P●rgamos in this case Revelation 2. ver 13 14 15. 9. There is no Word of God to prove that the Lord hath given the power of th● keyes to the King as the King and therfore we are not to believe that he hath any such power Also if the fore-said power of the keyes be given to the Church without any such power of the King the Church by all the former arguments may conveene to exercise that power in preaching binding loosing excommunicating suppose the civill Magistrate should discharge and inhibit these meetings for if the power of the keyes be given immediately by Christ to the Church then the power of meeting for the exercise of that power must also be given though the Magistrate say not Amen as is cleare Mat. 18. 18 19 20 21. 1 Cor. 5. 4 5. 1 Cor. 11.