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A02568 The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H. Azpilcueta, Martín de, 1492?-1586.; Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. Disputationes de controversiis Christianae fidei. English. Selections. 1609 (1609) STC 12696; ESTC S106027 106,338 252

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p._n 58._o seven_o erasmus_n and_o cajetan_n against_o bellarm._n and_o all_o other_o true_a catholic_n erasm_n in_o his_o note_n upon_o these_o epistle_n affirm_v etc._n that_o the_o epistle_n of_o james_n do_v not_o savour_v of_o a_o apostolic_a gravity_n he_o doubt_v of_o the_o second_o epistle_n of_o peter_n he_o affirm_v the_o second_o and_o three_o epistle_n of_o john_n be_v not_o write_v by_o john_n the_o apostle_n but_o by_o another_o of_o judes_n epistle_n he_o say_v nothing_o cajetan_a doubt_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o epistle_n of_o james_n of_o jude_n of_o the_o second_o and_o three_o of_o john_n and_o therefore_o will_v have_v they_o to_o be_v of_o less_o authority_n than_o the_o rest_n bellarmine_n just_o refute_v their_o opinion_n ch_n 18._o pag._n 86._o eight_o erasmus_n against_o all_o true_a catholic_n erasmus_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o note_n upon_o the_o revelation_n dubitarent_fw-la seek_v out_o many_o doubtful_a conjecture_n whereby_o he_o will_v prove_v this_o book_n of_o the_o revelation_n not_o to_o be_v write_v by_o john_n the_o apostle_n his_o three_o reason_n be_v true_o answer_v by_o bellarmine_n chap._n 19_o p._n 94._o nine_o genebrardus_n against_o bellarmine_n the_o four_o book_n of_o esdras_n be_v indeed_o cite_v by_o ambrose_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr bono_n mortis_fw-la etc._n and_o in_o his_o second_o book_n upon_o luke_n and_o in_o the_o 21._o epistle_n to_o horatian_n but_o doubtless_o it_o be_v not_o canonical_a since_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o any_o council_n account_v in_o the_o canon_n and_o be_v not_o find_v either_o in_o hebrew_a or_o greek_a and_o contain_v in_o the_o six_o chapter_n very_o fabulous_a toy_n i_o wonder_v therefore_o what_o come_v into_o genebrards_n mind_n that_o he_o will_v have_v this_o book_n pertain_v to_o the_o canon_n in_o his_o chronology_n pag._n 90._o bellarm._n chap._n 20._o pag._n 99_o ten_o jacobus_n christopolitanus_fw-la canus_n against_o bellarmine_n etc._n omit_v those_o therefore_o which_o false_o attribute_v too_o much_o purity_n unto_o the_o hebrew_n text_n we_o be_v to_o meet_v with_o other_o which_o in_o a_o good_a zeal_n but_o i_o know_v not_o whether_o according_a to_o knowledge_n defend_v that_o the_o jew_n in_o hatred_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n have_v purposely_o deprave_a many_o place_n of_o scripture_n so_o teach_v jacob_n bishop_n of_o christopolis_n in_o his_o praeface_n to_o the_o psalm_n and_o canus_n in_o his_o second_o book_n and_o thirteen_o chapter_n of_o common_a place_n these_o bellarmine_n confute_v by_o most_o weighty_a argument_n as_o he_o call_v they_o and_o show_v that_o by_o this_o defence_n the_o vulgar_a edition_n shall_v be_v most_o corrupt_a in_o 2._o book_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n chap._n 2._o pag._n 108._o decad_n ii_o first_o pagnin_n paulus_n forosempron_n eugubius_fw-la io._n mirandulanus_n driedo_n sixtus_n senensis_n all_o together_o by_o the_o ear_n concern_v this_o vulgar_a latin_a edition_n etc._n there_o be_v no_o small_a question_n that_o it_o be_v not_o jeromes_n be_v hold_v by_o sanctus_n pagninus_n in_o the_o praeface_n of_o his_o interpretation_n of_o the_o bible_n to_o clement_n the_o eight_o and_o paulus_n bishop_n of_o forosempronium_fw-la in_o his_o second_o book_n first_o chapter_n of_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n passion_n contrary_o that_o it_o be_v jeromes_n be_v defend_v by_o augustine_n eugubinus_n and_o johannes_n picus_n mirandulanus_n in_o book_n set_v out_o to_o that_o purpose_n and_o by_o some_o other_o but_o that_o it_o be_v mix_v both_o of_o the_o new_a and_o old_a be_v maintain_v by_o io._n driedo_n in_o his_o second_o book_n ch_n 1._o and_o sixtus_n senensis_n in_o his_o 8._o book_n of_o the_o holy_a library_n and_o the_o end_n bellarm._n 2._o book_n chap._n 9_o pag._n 135._o second_o bellarmine_n against_o some_o nameles_a author_n concern_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o septuagint_n etc._n though_o i_o know_v some_o hold_v it_o be_v utter_o lose_v yet_o i_o hold_v rather_o that_o it_o be_v so_o corrupt_v that_o it_o seem_v another_o bellarm._n 2._o book_n ch_n 6._o pag._n 127._o three_o valla_n faber_n erasmus_n and_o other_o against_o bellarmine_n that_o place_n rom._n 1.32_o not_o only_a kemnitius_n etc._n but_o also_o valla_n erasmus_n jacobus_n faber_n and_o other_o will_v have_v to_o be_v corrupt_v in_o the_o latin_a vulgar_a bellarmine_n confute_v they_o and_o will_v show_v that_o their_o latin_a translation_n herein_o be_v better_a than_o the_o greek_a original_a bellarm._n same_o book_n chap._n 14._o pag._n 168._o four_o card._n cajetan_n against_o bellarmine_n thomas_n caietanus_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o institut_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o b._n of_o rome_n etc._n chap._n 5._o teach_v that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v for_o that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n include_v the_o power_n of_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n and_o somewhat_o more_o but_o this_o doctrine_n seem_v to_o we_o more_o subtle_a than_o true_a for_o it_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o that_o the_o church_n have_v any_o other_o key_n beside_o those_o of_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n bellarm._n 1._o book_n of_o the_o pope_n ch_n 12._o pag._n 101._o five_o joachim_n raymundus_n a_o nameless_a frenchman_n against_o all_o catholic_n that_o there_o be_v three_o eternal_a spirit_n etc._n father_n son_n holy_a ghost_n essential_o differ_v be_v teach_v by_o a_o certain_a frenchman_n in_o anselmes_n time_n and_o the_o same_o seem_v to_o be_v hold_v by_o joachim_n the_o abbot_n in_o the_o year_n 1190._o and_o raymundus_n lullius_n in_o the_o year_n 1270._o confute_v by_o bellarmine_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr christo._n cha_n 2._o pag._n 37._o six_o erasmus_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n bellarmines_n disputation_n against_o the_o transsiluani_n etc._n and_o erasmus_n as_o their_o patron_n concern_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n warrant_v from_o diverse_a place_n of_o scripture_n see_v bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr christo._n ch_z 6._o pag._n 72.73_o seven_o bellarmine_n against_o durandus_fw-la the_o four_o error_n be_v of_o durandus_fw-la in_o 3._o d._n 22._o q._n 3._o who_o teach_v &c_n that_o christ_n soul_n descend_v not_o to_o hell_n in_o substance_n but_o only_o in_o certain_a effect_n because_o it_o do_v illuminate_v those_o holy_a father_n which_o be_v in_o limbo_n which_o opinion_n to_o be_v erroneous_a and_o yet_o not_o so_o ill_a as_o caluin_n be_v prove_v by_o four_o argument_n and_o all_o his_o objection_n answer_v by_o bellarm._n l._n 4._o de_fw-la christo_fw-la ch_n 15._o pag._n 391.392_o etc._n etc._n eight_o bonaventure_n against_o thomas_n saint_n thomas_n p._n 3._o q._n 52._o art_n 2._o teach_v etc._n that_o christ_n by_o his_o real_a presence_n descend_v but_o to_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o in_o effect_n only_o to_o the_o other_o place_n of_o hell_n but_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o his_o soul_n descend_v to_o all_o second_o saint_n thomas_n seem_v to_o say_v p._n 3._o q._n 52._o be_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v some_o punishment_n to_o christ_n to_o be_v in_o hell_n according_a to_o his_o soul_n etc._n etc._n and_o cajetan_n in_o act_n 2._o say_v that_o the_o sorrow_n of_o christ_n death_n continue_v in_o he_o till_o his_o resurrection_n in_o regard_n of_o three_o penalty_n whereof_o the_o second_o be_v that_o the_o soul_n remain_v in_o hell_n a_o place_n not_o convenient_a for_o it_o but_o bonavent_a in_o 3._o d._n 22._o q._n 4._o say_v that_o christ_n soul_n while_o it_o be_v in_o hell_n be_v in_o the_o place_n of_o punishment_n indeed_o but_o without_o punishment_n which_o seem_v to_o i_o more_o agreeable_a to_o the_o father_n bellarm._n l._n 4_o de_fw-fr christo._n c._n 16._o p._n 396.397_o etc._n etc._n nine_o bellarmine_n and_o all_o other_o papist_n against_o lyranus_fw-la nicolaus_n lyranus_fw-la be_v not_o of_o so_o great_a authority_n that_o we_o shall_v oppose_v he_o to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o historian_n etc._n which_o say_v that_o peter_n be_v slay_v at_o rome_n not_o as_o lyranus_fw-la at_o jerusalem_n bellarm._n l._n 2._o of_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n ch_n 10._o pag._n 210._o ten_o aeneas_n silvius_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n etc._n that_o speech_n of_o aeneas_n silvius_n afterward_o pope_n that_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n each_o man_n live_v to_o himself_o and_o there_o be_v small_a respect_n have_v of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v partly_o true_a and_o partly_o false_a it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v somewhat_o in_o those_o time_n hinder_v but_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o there_o be_v so_o little_a respect_n give_v he_o bellarm._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr pontif._n c._n 17._o pag_n 252._o decad_n iii_o first_o martinus_n polonus_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n the_o confutation_n of_o martinus_n polonus_n which_o live_v an._n 1250._o in_o that_o story_n
secret_a confession_n of_o our_o several_a sin_n both_o be_v never_o institute_v and_o command_v by_o any_o law_n of_o god_n and_o beside_o be_v never_o in_o use_n with_o the_o ancient_a church_n against_o all_o these_o mention_a error_n the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v determine_v sess._n 14._o c._n 5._o and_o can._n 7.8_o bellarm._n 3._o b._n of_o penance_n cap._n 1._o pag._n 238._o eight_o bellarmine_n against_o thomas_n waldensis_n and_o other_o i_o know_v that_o thomas_n waldensis_n in_o 2._o tom._n c._n 141._o be_v of_o this_o mind_n etc._n that_o he_o think_v nectarius_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n do_v simple_o abrogate_v the_o use_n of_o confession_n and_o therein_o great_o offend_v but_o i_o will_v not_o easy_o yield_v to_o that_o and_o i_o know_v that_o some_o have_v think_v this_o whole_a history_n feign_v and_o devise_v by_o socrates_n but_o i_o can_v be_v bring_v to_o believe_v that_o a_o false_a history_n can_v be_v write_v by_o he_o of_o a_o matter_n whereof_o many_o live_n in_o the_o time_n when_o and_o where_o the_o thing_n be_v do_v can_v convince_v he_o bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 14._o pag._n 320._o nine_o all_o doctor_n against_o ru._n tapperus_n and_o perhaps_o thomas_n indeed_o ruardus_n tapperus_n a_o worthy_a divine_a etc._n teach_v that_o a_o man_n may_v satisfy_v god_n for_o his_o eternal_a guilt_n and_o punishment_n by_o certain_a act_n which_o in_o order_n of_o nature_n follow_v the_o infusion_n of_o justify_v grace_n and_o go_v before_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o cite_v thomas_n for_o his_o opinion_n upon_o 4._o sent._n do_v 15._o qu._n 5_o neither_o be_v it_o certain_a whether_o st._n thomas_n mean_v so_o or_o no_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o that_o all_o doctor_n agree_v in_o this_o that_o before_o this_o grace_n receive_v no_o man_n can_v satisfy_v god_n bellarm._n l._n 4._o of_o penance_n c._n 1._o p._n 341._o where_o also_o he_o endeavour_n to_o reconcile_v andrea_n vega_n in_o his_o opinion_n of_o our_o satisfaction_n to_o god_n for_o the_o fault_n and_o offence_n of_o sin_n ten_o thomas_n durand_n paludan_n against_o adrian_n cajetan_n and_o bellarmine_n although_o the_o opinion_n of_o thomas_n durandus_fw-la etc._n paludanus_n and_o other_o upon_o 4_o sent._n do_v 15._o be_v very_o likely_a that_o satisfaction_n be_v not_o right_o make_v to_o god_n by_o work_n which_o be_v otherwise_o due_a to_o be_v do_v yet_o the_o opinion_n of_o adrianus_n and_o caietanus_n be_v not_o improbable_a that_o we_o do_v satisfy_v god_n even_o by_o work_n otherwise_o due_a to_o he_o since_o the_o satisfaction_n we_o give_v to_o god_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o justice_n only_o but_o to_o friendship_n also_o bellarmine_n l._n 4._o cap._n 13._o pag._n 402._o decad_n viii_o first_o scotus_n gabriel_n and_o few_o other_o against_o thomas_n richard_n durand_n paludan_n etc._n etc._n concern_v satisfaction_n enjoin_v by_o a_o priest_n etc._n the_o better_a part_n of_o catholic_a divine_n do_v not_o grant_v that_o the_o party_n confess_v may_v without_o sin_n refuse_v such_o a_o satisfaction_n for_o although_o scotus_n and_o gabriel_n and_o some_o few_o other_o teach_v thus_o yet_o the_o master_n of_o sent._n s._n thomas_n richardus_fw-la durandus_fw-la paludanus_n and_o many_o other_o upon_o 4._o do_v 16._o hold_v as_o we_o teach_v that_o a_o priest_n have_v the_o key_n whereby_o he_o may_v not_o only_o absolve_v from_o guilt_n and_o offence_n but_o as_o a_o judge_n may_v in_o god_n steed_n bind_v unto_o punishment_n which_o the_o penitent_a can_v refuse_v unless_o he_o resist_v the_o judge_n set_v over_o he_o from_o heaven_n and_o by_o consequent_a god_n himself_o bellarm._n li._n 4._o c._n 13._o pag._n 402._o second_o the_o better_a popish_a divine_n against_o the_o worse_a etc._n no_o catholic_a doctor_n teach_v that_o work_v do_v in_o deadly_a sin_n do_v discharge_v from_o death_n indeed_o some_o say_v that_o the_o work_v do_v in_o mortal_a sin_n be_v satisfactory_a if_o he_o which_o do_v the_o work_n return_v again_o to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n but_o that_o they_o be_v so_o while_o he_o continue_v in_o deadly_a sin_n no_o man_n that_o i_o know_v affirm_v yea_o our_o better_a divine_n hold_v that_o those_o work_n which_o be_v do_v in_o deadly_a sin_n neither_o be_v nor_o ever_o can_v be_v satisfactory_a bellarmine_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 14._o pag._n 406._o three_o ruardus_n jansenius_n dominicus_n a_o soto_n against_o waldensis_n and_o alphonsus_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o place_n mar._n 6.13_o we_o all_o agree_v not_o conveniunt_fw-la whether_o that_o anoint_v which_o the_o apostle_n use_v be_v sacramental_a or_o only_o a_o figure_n of_o this_o sacrament_n those_o which_o defend_v the_o first_o opinion_n be_v thomas_n waldensis_n and_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n but_o the_o late_a be_v sure_o the_o more_o probable_a which_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o ruardus_n jansenius_n and_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n and_o other_o bellarmine_n in_o his_o book_n of_o extreme_a unction_n cap._n 2._o pag._n 6._o four_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n oppose_v by_o bellarmine_n and_o all_o divine_n some_o catholic_n etc._n among_o who_o be_v dominicus_n a_o soto_n think_v that_o bodily_a health_n be_v a_o absolute_a and_o infallible_a effect_n of_o this_o sacrament_n of_o anoint_v etc._n etc._n but_o this_o answer_n please_v i_o not_o since_o that_o all_o divine_n and_o also_o the_o very_a counsel_n of_o florence_n and_o trent_n direct_o say_v that_o bodily_a health_n be_v promise_v in_o this_o sacrament_n only_o conditional_o if_o it_o may_v be_v expedient_a for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o soul_n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 6._o p._n 21._o five_o three_o dissent_v opinion_n of_o papist_n there_o be_v yet_o one_o question_n among_o our_o divine_n for_o what_o be_v those_o remainder_n of_o sin_n etc._n which_o be_v do_v away_o by_o this_o anoint_v they_o do_v not_o all_o agree_v some_o will_v have_v they_o venial_a sin_n but_o improbable_o for_o they_o may_v be_v wipe_v away_o without_o any_o sacrament_n other_o will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v that_o proneness_n to_o sin_n or_o habit_n which_o remain_v of_o sin_n but_o that_o be_v yet_o more_o unlikely_a but_o i_o say_v that_o the_o remnant_n of_o sin_n be_v double_a both_o which_o be_v wipe_v away_o by_o this_o sacrament_n first_o be_v those_o which_o sometime_o remain_v after_o all_o other_o sacrament_n whether_o they_o be_v venial_a or_o mortal_a sin_n for_o a_o man_n may_v after_o confession_n and_o communion_n fall_v into_o a_o mortal_a sin_n and_o not_o know_v it_o etc._n etc._n second_o under_o the_o name_n of_o these_o remnant_n be_v understand_v that_o dulness_n heaviness_n anxiety_n which_o use_v to_o be_v leave_v of_o sin_n and_o which_o may_v vex_v a_o man_n near_o his_o death_n etc._n etc._n bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 8._o p._n 29._o &_o 30._o six_o waldensis_n dominic_n a_o soto_n jansen_n etc._n etc._n disagree_v here_o be_v yet_o one_o doubt_n etc._n in_o that_o pope_n innocentius_n 1._o in_o his_o epistle_n 1._o chap._n 8._o say_v that_o not_o only_a priest_n but_o layman_n in_o case_n of_o their_o own_o and_o other_o necessity_n may_v anoile_v which_o opinion_n beda_n upon_o mar._n 6._o recyte_n in_o so_o many_o word_n and_o the_o council_n of_o worm_n can._n 72._o though_o waldensis_n answer_v that_o innocentius_n his_o word_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o that_o time_n and_o place_n where_o there_o be_v no_o priest_n and_o that_o then_o and_o there_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o layicke_n to_o minister_v this_o sacrament_n but_o this_o exposition_n be_v just_o confute_v of_o all_o divine_n dominicus_n a_o soto_n understand_v innocentius_n to_o speak_v of_o the_o use_n of_o oil_n for_o heal_v of_o disease_n beside_o and_o out_o of_o the_o business_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o that_o seem_v to_o be_v against_o the_o use_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o church_n other_o more_o true_o as_o jansenius_n say_v that_o innocentius_n speak_v of_o the_o party_n to_o be_v anoint_v not_o of_o the_o minister_n bellarmine_n in_o the_o same_o book_n cap._n 9_o pag._n 31._o seven_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n thomas_n other_o divine_n at_o variance_n there_o be_v two_o usual_a ceremony_n in_o this_o sacrament_n etc._n one_o that_o the_o litany_n and_o other_o prayer_n be_v read_v before_o the_o anoint_v the_o second_o that_o seven_o part_n of_o the_o body_n be_v anoint_v namely_o the_o eye_n ear_n nostril_n mouth_n hand_n because_o of_o the_o five_o sense_n then_o the_o reins_n which_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o lust_n and_o last_o the_o foot_n which_o have_v the_o power_n of_o motion_n and_o execution_n so_o be_v it_o prescribe_v by_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n but_o some_o think_v that_o none_o of_o all_o these_o annointing_n be_v of_o the_o essense_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o that_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o that_o if_o the_o sick_a man_n be_v anoint_v any_o