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A16151 The suruey of Christs sufferings for mans redemption and of his descent to Hades or Hel for our deliuerance: by Thomas Bilson Bishop of Winchester. The contents whereof may be seene in certaine resolutions before the booke, in the titles ouer the pages, and in a table made to that end. Perused and allowed by publike authoritie. Bilson, Thomas, 1546 or 7-1616. 1604 (1604) STC 3070; ESTC S107072 1,206,574 720

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say_v 58._o omnes_fw-la ergo_fw-la animae_fw-la penes_fw-la inferos_fw-la inquis_fw-la velis_fw-la ac_fw-la nolis_fw-la &_o supplicia_fw-la iam_fw-la illic_fw-la &_o refrigeria_n habes_fw-la pauperem_fw-la &_o divitem_fw-la cur_n enim_fw-la non_fw-la pute_fw-la animam_fw-la &_o puniri_fw-la &_o foveri_fw-la in_o inferis_fw-la interim_n sub_fw-la expectatione_n utriusque_fw-la iudicij_fw-la all_o soul_n than_o you_o suppose_v be_v in_o inferi_n will_v you_o ●…ill_v you_o you_o have_v there_o already_o both_o punishment_n and_o comfort_n the_o poor_a man_n and_o the_o rich_a for_o why_o shall_v you_o not_o think_v the_o soul_n to_o be_v punish_v and_o cherish_v in_o inferis_fw-la in_o the_o place_n below_o mean_v while_n under_o a_o expectation_n of_o either_o judgement_n these_o word_n you_o can_v allege_v and_o neglect_v how_o plain_o tertullian_n have_v teach_v besore_n that_o inferi_n be_v place_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o a_o region_n under_o the_o earth_n you_o wilful_o change_v condition_n
their_o torment_n be_v those_o merciless_a angel_n wo_n to_o the_o guilty_a when_o the_o innocent_a shall_v be_v reward_v with_o honour_n and_o they_o with_o shame_n the_o innocent_a shall_v go_v to_o paradise_n the_o nocent_a into_o fire_n unquenchable_a the_o sight_n of_o god_n shall_v cherish_v the_o innocent_a the_o sight_n of_o fire_n shall_v torment_v the_o wicked_a if_o the_o fire_n of_o hell_n be_v visible_a it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o external_a and_o true_a fire_n for_o internal_a and_o spiritual_a pain_n be_v invisible_a and_o therefore_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v always_o confess_v the_o fire_n of_o hell_n to_o be_v a_o external_a and_o violent_a force_n of_o true_a fire_n torment_v the_o wicked_a and_o condemn_v as_o a_o error_n in_o origen_n the_o conceit_n of_o a_o inward_a and_o spiritual_a fire_n in_o stead_n of_o hell_n fire_n which_o this_o defender_n be_v so_o much_o in_o love_n withal_o jerom_n direct_v auitus_n what_o he_o shall_v beware_v in_o the_o read_n of_o origen_n bookc_n say_v 〈◊〉_d scias_n detestanda_fw-la tibi_fw-la in_o cis_fw-la esse_fw-la quam_fw-la plurima_fw-la &_o iuxta_fw-la sermonem_fw-la domini_fw-la inter_fw-la scorpiones_fw-la &_o colubros_fw-la incedendum_fw-la this_o know_v that_o there_o be_v very_o many_o thing_n in_o they_o to_o be_v detest_v by_o thou_o and_o as_o god_n speak_v thou_o must_v walk_v among_o scorpion_n and_o serpent_n where_o repeat_v diverse_a error_n of_o origen_n he_o lay_v this_o down_o for_o one_o of_o those_o that_o must_v be_v detest_v ibid._n ignes_fw-la quoque_fw-la gehennae_fw-la &_o tormenta_fw-mi quae_fw-la scriptura_fw-la sancta_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la comminatur_fw-la non_fw-la ponit_fw-la in_o supplicijs_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o conscientia_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la quando_fw-la dei_fw-la virtute_fw-la &_o potentia_fw-la omnis_fw-la memoria_fw-la delictorum_fw-la ante_fw-la oculos_fw-la nostros_fw-la ponitur_fw-la ac_fw-la praeteritas_fw-la voluptales_fw-la mens_fw-la intuens_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la punitur_fw-la ardore_fw-la &_o poenitudinis_fw-la stimulis_fw-la confoditur_fw-la the_o fire_n of_o hell_n also_o and_o the_o torment_n which_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n threaten_v unto_o sinner_n origen_n place_v not_o among_o external_a punishment_n but_o within_o the_o conscience_n of_o sinner_n when_o as_o by_o the_o virtue_n and_o power_n of_o god_n the_o remembrance_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n be_v set_v before_o our_o eye_n and_o the_o mind_n behold_v her_o pleasure_n past_a be_v punish_v with_o the_o fire_n of_o conscience_n and_o pierce_v with_o the_o sting_n of_o grief_n and_o repentance_n this_o error_n jerom_n more_o plain_o express_v and_o sharp_o tax_v in_o his_o large_a commentary_n upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o ephesian_n who_o word_n to_o prevent_v all_o cavil_n i_o think_v best_a to_o set_v down_o in_o latin_a as_o they_o lie_v though_o they_o be_v large_a for_o that_o they_o give_v light_n to_o the_o former_a testimony_n ephes._n quia_fw-la sunt_fw-la plerique_fw-la qui_fw-la dicunt_fw-la non_fw-la futura_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la esse_fw-la supplicia_fw-la nec_fw-la extrinsecus_fw-la adhibenda_fw-la tormenta_fw-mi sed_fw-la ipsum_fw-la peccatum_fw-la &_o conscientiam_fw-la delicti_fw-la esse_fw-la pro_fw-la poena_fw-la dum_fw-la vermis_fw-la in_o cord_n non_fw-la moritur_fw-la &_o in_o animo_fw-la ignis_fw-la accenditur_fw-la in_o similitudinem_fw-la febris_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la torquet_fw-la extrinsecus_fw-la aegrotantem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la ipsa_fw-la corripiens_fw-la punit_fw-la sine_fw-la cruciatuum_fw-la forinsecus_fw-la adhibitione_fw-la have_v it_o aque_fw-la persuasiones_fw-la &_o decipulas_fw-la fraudulentas_fw-la verba_fw-la inania_fw-la appellavit_fw-la &_o vacua_fw-la quae_fw-la videntur_fw-la blandiri_fw-la peccantibus_fw-la sed_fw-la magis_fw-la eos_fw-la ferunt_fw-la ad_fw-la aeterna_fw-la supplicia_fw-la because_o there_o be_v many_o which_o say_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o external_a punishment_n for_o sin_n nor_o torment_v outward_o inflict_v but_o that_o sin_n itself_o and_o the_o conscience_n thereof_o be_v punishment_n while_o the_o worm_n do_v not_o die_v in_o the_o heart_n and_o a_o fire_n be_v kindle_v in_o the_o soul_n after_o the_o fashion_n of_o a_o fever_n which_o do_v not_o outward_o torment_v the_o sick_a but_o possess_v the_o body_n ve●…th_v ●…t_v without_o any_o forr●…gne_n inflict_v of_o pain_n these_o persuasion_n and_o deceitful_a device_n the_o apostle_n call_v void_a and_o empty_a word_n which_o seem_v to_o flatter_v sinner_n but_o indeed_o hasten_v they_o to_o eternal_a punishment_n hell_n fire_n by_o this_o resolution_n be_v a_o punishment_n outward_o inflict_v on_o the_o damn_a and_o not_o a_o inward_a fire_n or_o pain_n kindle_v in_o the_o mind_n and_o possess_v the_o soul_n or_o body_n as_o a_o ague_n do_v which_o be_v a_o inward_a grievance_n but_o no_o external_a violence_n and_o the_o contrary_a conceit_n of_o your_o spiritual_a fire_n in_o the_o mind_n to_o be_v hell_n fire_n be_v here_o condemn_v in_o origen_n as_o a_o deceitful_a and_o detestable_a error_n hasten_v man_n to_o eternal_a torment_n the_o same_o confession_n still_o continue_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n gregory_n 38._o quos_fw-la flamma_fw-la gehennae_fw-la devor_n at_o à_fw-fr visione_n very_fw-la luminis_fw-la coecat_fw-la ut_fw-la for_o be_v eos_fw-la dolour_n combustionis_fw-la cruciet_fw-la &_o intus_fw-la poena_fw-la caecitatis_fw-la obscuret_fw-la quatenus_fw-la qui_fw-la authori_fw-la svo_fw-la cord_n &_o corpore_fw-la deliquerunt_fw-la simul_fw-la cord_n &_o corpore_fw-la p●…iantur_fw-la who_o the_o flame_n of_o hell_n devour_v it_o blind_v from_o sce_v the_o true_a light_n that_o pain_n of_o burn_a may_v outward_o torment_v they_o and_o punishment_n of_o blindness_n inward_o obscure_v they_o that_o as_o they_o sin_v against_o their_o maker_n with_o heart_n and_o body_n so_o they_o may_v be_v punish_v both_o in_o soul_n and_o body_n isidore_n 31._o duplex_fw-la damnatorum_fw-la poena_fw-la est_fw-la in_o gehenna_n quorum_n &_o mentem_fw-la urit_fw-la tristitia_fw-la &_o corpus_fw-la flamma_fw-la there_o be_v a_o double_a punishment_n of_o the_o damn_a in_o hell_n who_o mind_n burn_v with_o sorrow_n and_o their_o body_n with_o flame_n by_o a_o just_a rcward_n that_o as_o they_o debate_v with_o their_o mind_n what_o they_o may_v perform_v with_o their_o body_n so_o they_o shall_v be_v punish_v both_o in_o soul_n and_o body_n bede_n by_o the_o marci_n worm_n christ_n note_v the_o rottenness_n as_o by_o fire_n the_o burn_a of_o hell_n or_o cl_v the_o worm_n signify_v the_o over-late_a repentance_n of_o sin_n which_o shall_v never_o cease_v to_o bite_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o damn_a in_o their_o torment_n ut_fw-la ignis_fw-la sit_fw-la poena_fw-la extrinsecus_fw-la s●…iens_fw-la vermis_fw-la dolour_n interi●…s_fw-la accusans_fw-la that_o the_o fire_n of_o hell_n shall_v be_v a_o torment_n outward_o rage_v and_o the_o worm_n a_o grief_n inward_o accuse_v bernard_n 38._o timor_fw-la co●…turbabit_fw-la te_fw-la cum_fw-la terra_fw-la aperietur_fw-la cor_fw-la be_o te_fw-la &_o iurue_n &_o caedes_fw-la in_o stagnum_fw-la sulfuris_fw-la ardent_a be_v &_o foetentis_fw-la ignis_fw-la exteriùs_fw-la carnem_fw-la tuam_fw-la comburet_fw-la vermis_fw-la interiùs_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la corrodet_fw-la fear_v shall_v amaze_v thou_o when_o the_o earth_n shall_v open_v before_o thou_o and_o thou_o fall_v and_o light_n in_o the_o lake_n of_o brimstone_n burn_v and_o st●…king_v fire_n shall_v outward_o burn_v thy_o flesh_n and_o a_o worm_n shall_v inward_o gnaw_v thy_o conscience_n so_o tertullian_n before_o they_o apologetico_fw-la gehenna_n est_fw-la ignis_fw-la arcani_fw-la subterraneus_fw-la ad_fw-la poenam_fw-la the_o saurus_fw-la hell_n be_v a_o treasure_n of_o secret_a fire_n keep_v under_o the_o earth_n to_o punish_v withal_o and_o justine_n the_o martyr_n the_o devil_n christianis_fw-la shall_v suffer_v punishment_n and_o vengeance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d enclose_v in_o everlasting_a fire_n arnobius_n likewise_o the_o gentile_n be_v 8._o admonish_v by_o the_o book_n of_o their_z best_o learned_a man_n and_o verse_n of_o their_z poet_n of_o that_o fiery_a flood_n and_o infernal_a lake_n of_o flame_n often_o compass_v the_o place_n which_o be_v prepare_v for_o eternal_a torment_n they_o deliver_v as_o know_v both_o by_o the_o demonstration_n of_o devil_n and_o by_o the_o oracle_n of_o the_o prophet_n as_o the_o flash_n of_o lightning_n touch_v man_n body_n but_o consume_v they_o not_o and_o as_o the_o fire_n of_o aetna_n and_o veswius_n and_o of_o other_o place_n of_o the_o earth_n do_v burn_v and_o not_o spend_v so_o that_o flame_n appoint_v to_o punish_v the_o wicked_a be_v not_o feed_v with_o the_o decay_n of_o those_o that_o burn_v but_o nourish_v with_o parch_a their_o body_n that_o waste_v not_o and_o prosper_n to_o 12._o hear_v and_o read_v these_o thing_n and_o to_o believe_v they_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v to_o think_v how_o great_a a_o evil_a it_o be_v to_o be_v exclude_v from_o the_o joy_n of_o behold_v god_n to_o be_v banish_v from_o heaven_n and_o cast_v into_o everlasting_a fire_n with_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o angel_n to_o see_v no_o light_n in_o that_o fire_n but_o to_o feel_v that_o it_o burn_v to_o suffer_v the_o
terrible_a crack_n of_o that_o flame_a fire_n to_o have_v their_o eye_n blind_v with_o the_o bitter_a smoke_n of_o that_o fume_a gulf_n to_o be_v drown_v in_o the_o deep_a lake_n of_o gehenna_n and_o to_o be_v tear_v eternal_o with_o most_o greedy_a worm_n to_o think_v on_o these_o thing_n and_o many_o such_o like_a be_v a_o sure_a way_n to_o renounce_v all_o vice_n and_o refrain_v all_o allurement_n of_o the_o flesh_n apparent_o then_o the_o fire_n of_o hell_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o all_o these_o ancient_a and_o christian_a writer_n be_v local_a as_o keep_v under_o the_o earth_n external_a as_o enclose_v the_o damn_a both_o man_n and_o devil_n and_o sensible_a to_o the_o eye_n with_o obscure_a flame_n torment_v all_o the_o part_n of_o the_o body_n with_o a_o horrible_a pain_n of_o burn_a but_o not_o consume_v they_o and_o that_o the_o fire_n of_o hell_n shall_v be_v a_o external_a and_o true_a fire_n what_o proof_n can_v be_v fair_a or_o full_a than_o that_o scripture_n and_o father_n with_o one_o voice_n profess_v that_o christ_n shall_v come_v to_o judge_v the_o world_n in_o flame_a fire_n which_o shall_v 3_o melt_v the_o element_n with_o heat_n and_o dissolve_v the_o heaven_n and_o threfore_o without_o question_n must_v needs_o be_v a_o true_a substantial_a &_o external_a fire_n and_o that_o the_o same_o fire_n with_o which_o he_o shall_v come_v to_o judge_v shall_v devour_v his_o adversary_n 66._o behold_v say_v isaiah_n the_o lord_n will_v come_v with_o fire_n that_o he_o may_v render_v his_o indignation_n with_o the_o flame_n of_o fire_n for_o the_o lord_n will_v judge_v with_o fire_n 96._o there_o shall_v go_v a_o fire_n before_o he_o when_o he_o come_v to_o judge_v say_v david_n and_o burn_v up_o his_o enemy_n ro●…nd_v about_o the_o lord_n jesus_n say_v paul_n 1._o shall_v show_v himself_o from_o heaven_n in_o flame_a fire_n render_v vengeance_n to_o they_o that_o know_v not_o god_n and_o obey_v not_o the_o gospel_n for_o to_o such_o 10._o remain_v no_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n but_o a_o fearful_a expectation_n of_o judgement_n and_o a_o violence_n of_o fire_n which_o shall_v devour_v the_o adversary_n fire_n say_v arnobius_n shall_v go_v before_o christ_n come_v to_o judgement_n 96._o even_o fire_n which_o shall_v perform_v two_o office_n with_o one_o and_o the_o same_o aspect_n it_o shall_v lighten_v the_o friend_n and_o inflame_v the_o enemy_n of_o god_n for_o the_o fire_n which_o shall_v burn_v the_o sinful_a shall_v be_v make_v brightness_n to_o the_o just_a the_o end_n of_o this_o present_a world_n say_v justine_n martyr_n be_v the_o 74._o judgement_n of_o the_o wicked_a by_o fire_n as_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o prophet_n &_o apostlesdeclare_v and_o likewise_o th●…_n write_n of_o sibylle_n so_o bless_v clemens_n that_o live_v with_o the_o apostle_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinth_n affirm_v christ_n shall_v come_v say_v ambrose_n 1._o with_o his_o heavenly_a army_n and_o with_o fire_n as_o his_o minister_n to_o give_v vengeance_n ●…or_a the_o sire_n of_o judgement_n shall_v serve_v he_o to_o revenge_v the_o reprobate_n say_v gregory_n paul_n 1._o show_v say_v theodoret_n that_o 2._o judgement_n shall_v be_v full_a of_o terror_n note_v first_o the_o judge_n come_v from_o heaven_n then_o their_o power_n which_o minister_n unto_o he_o who_o be_v the_o angel_n last_o th●…_n kind_a of_o punishment_n for_o the_o wicked_a shall_v be_v deliver_v to_o the_o flame_n of_o fire_n there_o be_v 96._o two_o property_n in_o fire_n to_o burn_v and_o to_o shine_v the_o shine_a property_n the_o assembly_n of_o saint_n shall_v enjoy_v by_o the_o other_o shall_v wicked_a man_n be_v punish_v so_o basil_n 28._o there_o be_v two_o force_n in_o fire_n one_o to_o burn_v the_o other_o to_o shine_v the_o sharpness_n of_o ●…ire_n which_o punish_v be_v lay_v up_o for_o those_o that_o deserve_v burn_v the_o light_n and_o shine_a thereof_o be_v allot_v to_o the_o joy_n of_o the_o bless_a and_o athanasius_n 79._o fire_n 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