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A96712 The summe of diverse sermons preached in Dublin, before the L. Deputie Fleetwood, and the Commissioners of Parliament for the affairs of Ireland. wherein the doctrine of infant-baptism is asserted, and the main objections of Mr. Tombs, Mr. Fisher, Mr. Blackwood, and others, answered / by Samuel Winter ... Winter, Samuel, 1603-1666. 1656 (1656) Wing W3089; ESTC R43829 127,074 209

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with them that forsake the holy Covenant Heb. 4.1 Let us therefore fear least a promise being left us of entering into his rest any of you should seem to come short of it that is should really fall short of it as the word is usually taken in scripture phrase but as for the elect Christ hath undertaken for them that they shall never perish Joh. 10.28 Esa 55.3 I will give you the sure mercies of David that is Christ Obj. This Tenent overthrows the necessity of Conversion Ans This Covenant includes regeneration and conversion in it Deut. 30.7 I will circumcise the heart of thy seed which sheweth That the outward Circumcision did signifie the circumcising of the heart which the Lord promiseth to make good to our seed now in the days of the Gospel as appears from v. 1 5 11. Compared with Rom. 10.6 Hos 14.7 Those under thy shadow shall return 2. Hath not the Lord made faith and repentance the condition of the Covenant on our part Joh. 3.16 which Christ hath undertaken with the Father to work effectually in the elect For want of which qualifications many thousands are damned for ever though the Children of Abraham visibly What hast thou to do saith the Lord Psal 50.16 to take my Covenant in thy mouth seeing thou hatest to be reformed Yet were their children under the outward administration of it therefore we say They might as well have debarred all the children of Israel from that outward priviledg as now debarr the children of believers upon the same account it 's said Mat. 8.12 Many shall come from the East and from the West and shall sit down with Abraham Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of heaven but the children of the Kingdom shall be cast out that is such as were so born and visibly so continued for a while such I say shall be cast out of the Kingdom of heaven or the Church here below not the Church above out of which none are properly said to be cast because they were never in it Obj. This opinion overthrows the foundation of all Gospel-Churches As First It destroys the matter of a Church which ought to be Saints by calling 1 Cor. 1.2 But this tenent doth unavoidably admit into the Church all the unconverted and unregenerate children born of the bodies of such persons that either were or have been accounted believers Secondly It admits into the Church good and bad promiscuously and all those unbaptized and what light in the Gospel have you to justifie such an Assembly to be the true Church of Christ Ans To the first we say It destroys not the matter of a Church visible consisting of visible Saints Therefore they are incomple●● Members of the Church for such are children and so owned by the Apostle as holy i. e. relatively holy if not positively 1 Cor. 7. Ezra 9.2 the holy seed i. e. such as are set apart for God and dedicated to him in a peculiar manner and many of them sanctified from the womb Thus Jeremiah Esaias John Baptist the last of the old and the first of the new Testamen●● Now whether should we take the testimony of God or the testimony of men If we receive the witness of men saith the Apostle the witness of God is greater 1 Joh. 5.9 Man makes confession or profession of Christ this is an human testimonie and we accept it and shall we reject a divine testimony God forbid Let God be true and every man a lyer Rom. 3. 2. They are acknowledged as members of the Church by the Apostle Paul for writing to the Churches of Coloss and Ephesus Col. 1.2 3 and 20. Eph. 2.1 he directs his Epistle to ch●ldren as well as parents 3. We answer That children upon their discovery of themselves not to be visible Saints are to be suspended from the Ordinances as in the old Testament the Priests were to distinguish between the holy and the profane Jer. 7. The Lord complains that they made his house a den of thieves such then were not to be admitted to the Passover In order to which the Porters were charged to keep back from the Temple such as were unclean in any matter though they were circumcised 2 Chron 22.19 If this rule were observed in the old Testament then surely it is not to be neglected in the new Ans To the second Objection Mr Pat. pag. 69. Whereas they say Such Assemblies are no Churches because they are not baptized which is essential to a particular visible Church therefore we may have no communion with them for God never had any Church-union or communion with any soul which was not baptized that is rebaptized Here are great swelling words as the Apostle Jude saith such spirits it seems there were in his time But we answer First If such were no Churches then for many hundreds of years Christ's promise fell to the ground Mat. 16.18 19. I will give unto thee the Keys of the Kingdom of heaven The Keys as they grant were given to particular visible Churches against which making up the body of Christ the gates of hell saith Christ shall not prevail but by this Doctrin they did prevail for above 1500 years seeing that till that time we read not of any such Churches as they challenge to themselves these therefore are but sandy foundations and certainly when the winds of temptation shall blow and the rain of affliction shall fall and the flouds of persecution come their houses will fall 2. What say you to Rev. 11.4 Are not the two Candlesticks the Churches according to scripture phrase We had Churches in England before there was any Church at Rome as Matthew Paris tells us Therefore we received not our doctrine or ordination originally from Rome which farther appears by this That the Brittish Churches in the celebration of Easter observed the custom of the Eastern Churches and not of the Church of Rome which doubtless they would have done had they received the Gospel from thence as Flaccius Illyricus well observeth which are to be slain as well as the olive trees a little before the last downfall of Anti-Christ and doth not the scripture own these Churches as true under the reign of Antichrist for one thousand two hundred and threescore years and will or dare any disown them because not rebaptized 3. Had they minded well the command of the holy Ghost they had not been so grossly mistaken Son of man saith the Lord There is but one going in and that in the singular number but many goings out of the Church of God which last word is in the plural Ezek 44.5 Pones cor tuum 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in ingressu domu● omnes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 exitus Sanctuarij Ez. 44 5. mark well the entering in of the house and every going forth of the Sanctuary They say we must enter in by baptism which is essential to a Church but thus they unchurch all the Churches in the world but