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A93702	Rome ruin'd by VVhite Hall, or, The papall crown demolisht: containing a confutation of the three degrees of popery, viz. papacy, prelacy, and presbitery; answerable to the triple crowne of the three-headed Cerberus the Pope, with his three fold hierarchies aforesaid. With a dispelling of all other dispersed clouds of errour, which doth interpose the clear sun-shine of the Gospel in our horrizon. Wherein the chiefe arguments each of them have, for the vindication of their erronious tenents are incerted, and refuted; with a description of such whem [sic] the true Church of Christ doth consist of: as also how, and by whom, they may be gathered, and governed, according to the will, and appointment of Jesus Christ, and his apostles, in the primative purity thereof. / By Iohn Spittlehouse, assistant to the Marshall Generall of the Army, under the command of his Excellency, the Lord Generall Fairfax. Imprimated by Theod. Jennings, and entred in the Stationers Hall.	Spittlehouse, John.	1649 (1649)	Wing S5013; Thomason E586_2; ESTC R203633	304,213	396

immitate but they never invocated any but the Lord Jehovah and Christ in him as the Scriptures doe plentifully prove therefore the Adoration or praying to Angels is a superstitious and new device of Doctrine and ought to be rejected Isa 63. 16. Object Jacobs Ladder on which the Angels ascended and descended from heaven doth intimate that they did not only reveale unto us the counsells of God and execute his will but also report unto God our prayers vowes and necessities Ans We grant that the Angels doe report unto God the affaires of the world the Acts and Gests of men and so their supplications in generall but this they doe as Messengers not as Mediators the Prophet Zachary sheweth a distinct office of the Angelicall Spirits and Jesus Christ there called the Angell of the Lord where they viz. the Angels returns this answer to God We have gone through the world and behold all the world sitteth still and is at rest But the Angel of the Lord Christ the Mediator of the Church steppeth forth and prayeth O Lord of Hoast how long wilt thou be unmindfull of Jerusalem so that albeit the Angels are witnesses of our devotions and beholders of our teares and plaints yet have they no office of Mediatorship neither have we any warrant to pray unto them SECT 2. Object IT is said Gen. 17. 3. that Abraham fell upon his face and talked with God which doubtlesse was an Angel by the like expressions in the 18. Chap. c. Ans If that were an Angell in the person of God which talked Angels will not be worshipped with Abraham then was it no gesture of Adoration in that Abraham fell on his face for the Angels will not suffer men to worship them Rev. 22. 9. but if they will needs have it Adoration then it was God that talked with him as the words of the Text intimateth Again though Abraham had said to his Servant that the Angel should goe before him Chap. 24. ver 7. yet read we not that the Servant did pray to the Angel that was appointed to be president of his journey but solely directeth his prayer unto God as in the 12. vers which example our Saviour himself urgeth Mat. 4. 10. Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve Obj. Jacob prayeth that the Angel blesse the children Gen. 48. 16. and Moses wisheth the good will of him that dwels in the Bush to come upon the head of Joseph Deut. 33. 16. Ans We deny not but that Angels as well as men may instrumentally pronounce the blessings of God as from him and in his name but not originally and so to be resorted and prayed unto as the Authors and fountaines of blessings 2. It is without example in Scripture to wish any blessing but from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ as the Apostle Paul confirmeth Rom. 15. 30. 2 Cor. 13. 11. Phil. 4. 6 7. Col. 5. 15. 3. The Angel whom Jacob there speaketh of is in the same place called the God of his fathers Exod. 3. 6. 4. Moses also calleth him that dwelleth in the Bush Jehovah verse 13. SECT 3. Object IOhn wisheth grace and peace to be given to him that was and is and is to come and from the seven Spirits which is before the Throne that is from the seven Angels Therefore Angels though they blesse not as the authors of Grace yet a blessing may be asked of them as impetrators and intercessors of the same at the hands of God as also Gen. 32. 29. where the Angel is said to blesse Jacob. Ans That was not an Angel but the Son of God which ●● was no Angel but Christ that wrestled with Jacob. wrestled with Jacob because it belongeth not to Angels to blesse but to God himselfe for spirituall blessings are either conferred by the Author thereof which is only God or by the Mediator thereof which is Jesus Christ or by the messengers or instruments thereof which may be as well Angels and Men for as Isaac blessed Jacob and Jacob his sonnes ministerially only as being Gods mouth to pronounce them so Angels likewise may be the Messengers or instruments of Gods blessing and not otherwise For the Apostle saith that every good and perfect gift commeth from God Jam. 1. 17. neither are the Angels to be s●ed unto for any spirituall or temporall blessing but only God for if any one Lack wisdome saith the same Apostle let him aske it of God Jam. 1. 5. and so consequently in any other thing yea the promise is made only to such as aske in Christs name Joh. 16. 23. and no otherwise and as to that place in the Revelations where mention is made of the seven Spirits we must understand the Spirit of God with his manifold graces for the seven Spirits are also said to be the seven lamps of fire burning before the Throne they are also termed the seven eyes of the Lambe all which doe intimate as formerly SECT 4. THe arguments which the Papists use to justifie their Invocation of Saints departed are chiefly these which follow to which I shall return an answer Obj. Saints doe pray for us and therefore we may and ought to pray to them that they pray for us is proved by these places of Scripture viz. Exod. 32. 13. where Moses desireth God to remember Abraham Isaac and his servants And Baruch 3. 4. where he saith O Lord God Almighty heare now the prayer of the dead Israelites with 2 Maccabees 14 15. where Onias spake and said this is a lover of the Brethren who prayeth much for the people Jeremiah the Prophet of the Lord. Ans To the testimony cited out of Baruch and the Maccabees they prove nothing because they are no Books of the Cannonicall Scripture 2. The other testimonies are impertinently alleadged for Moses maketh not mention of the prayers which Abraham Isaac and Jacob should make for the people but of the Covenant which the Lord made with them true the Saints doe pray to God by their generall wishes that the kingdome of God were accomplished as Rev. 6. 10. but our particular necessities they know not and so doth not make particular requests for us therefore the argument followeth not that they pray by their generall desires for the Church that therefore they pray for us in particular Again seeing these Papists hold that the Patriarcks and Fathers of the Old Testament were in Limbus Patrum a dungeon of darknesse and a member or part of Hell they doe absolutely contradict themselves in making them Mediators and Intercessors in heaven neither was Moses request for the merits or worthinesse of the Fathers but in respect of the Messiah which was promised for neither was Abraham himself justified by his merits but by faith as Paul sheweth Rom. 4. 30. SECT 5. Obj. GOd telleth Abimelech that Abraham was a Prophet and should pray for him Gen. 20. 7. Ans That place doth not make for the

proved and therefore being so adored here on earth is Idolatry and Superstition CHAP. VIII The eighth Chapter treateth of their Limbus Patrum or their Purgatory SECT 1. Objection THeir opinion of Purgatory or Limbus Patrum where they say all the ancient Fathers were before Christ they ground upon such Texts of Scripture as these viz. In that it is said that Abraham was gathered to his people Gen. 25. 8. c. which Purgatory say they is not for the purging of Mortall but Veniall sinnes and therefore the sinnes of the Fathers were purged there But that Abraham went to no such place is evident Luke 16. Against these grosse opinion of Purgatory or Limbus Patrum 15. where the place to which he went is called Abrahams bosome which certainly cannot be a member of Hell as they make Limbus the Apostle also sheweth to what place the faithfull are gathered unto Heb. 6. 12. where he exhorteth to be followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises as also Heb. 12. 22 23. where the Author termeth the place to which they are gathered The City of the living God the heavenly Jerusalem the place of an innumerable company of Angels the generall Assembly and Church of the first borne which are written ïn Heaven to God the Judge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect so that where the spirits of just men were there the Angels were for so we read Luk. 16. 22. that Lazarus's Soule was carried by Angels into Abrahams bosome but Angels are not in Limbus Patrum ergo not the soules of Saints departed Again Henock is said to be of that people to whom Abraham was gathered but Henock was not in Limbus for he was taken up into heaven Gen. 5. 24. 2. Abraham went to his fathers in ●race Gen 25. 8. that is with joy and comfort but what joy and comfort is there in Limbus a Lake and dungeon of darknesse 3. To be joyned to his people is not to be joyned to the Angels for Abraham is said to goe to his Fathers but the Angels were not his Fathers neither is the phrase alone as to say he slept with his Fathers or went the way of all flesh or changed his life for Ishmael is also said to goe to his people Gen. 25. 17. SECT 2. Of Abrahams and Ishmaels people NOw Abraham and Ishmael had not the same people to goe unto the faithfull cannot be said to be Ishmaels people nor the prophane sort to be Abrahams people but if the meaning of the phrase were no more then that they were joyned to the state of the dead the faithfull and prophane should all goe to one people wherefore this phrase must needs imply a speciall disposition of the Soules of the faithfull after this life in being associated to the company of the just and laying up their bodies in an assured hope of the resurrection The Apostle also sheweth what it is for the righteous to be gathered to their people Heb. 12. 22 23. to which we are joyned by faith whilst we live and really when we are dead as one saith now quo ad spem in hope but then quo ad rem indeed Again the Spirit of the Lord pronounceth a blessing to them that dye in the Lord Rev. 14. 13. which are three Arguments against Purgatory 1. In that they which dye in the faith of Christ are blessed but they which are in Hells torments for Purgatory they say is a part of Hell are not blessed 2. They are said to rest from their labours but they which are in Purgatory are in labour and paine 3. Their works are said to follow them for their reward but they which are tormented and punished are not rewarded Therefore we acknowledge no other Purgatory but in this life No other Purgatory but in this life a perfect purgation of our sins in Christ and an imperfect which is by a fiery probation of affliction as the Apostle termeth it 1 Pet. 4. 12. where he willeth the Jewes not to think strange concerning the fiery triall which was amongst them to prove them Job also sheweth that our Purgatory fire is in the affliction and sorrow of this life where he saith Ex ibo aurum I shall come forth like Gold Job 23. 10. As also the Prophet Isaiah saith That the Lords fire i● in Sion and his furnace at Jerusalem Isa 35. 9. it is not then in Hell or Purgatory SECT 3. The Papists leave many things uncertain and undiscussed touching Purgatory AGain the most learned of them shewing the difference betwixt the ministry of the Angels in this life and in the next leaveth it as uncertain and undiscussed whether the good Angels or the bad are the Ministers of the torments in Purgatory as for the bad Angels that they should be the Ministers of the Torments in Purgatory or that they should exercise power over them that in their life time did conquer the Devill they hold not neither yet will they have them to be the good Angels for it is not meet say they that they which shall shortly come to be fellowes and partakers with the blessed Angels in Heaven should be punished by such Angels Now let any reasonable man judge whether Purgatory be a meere fantasie yea or no where there is supposed to be torments and yet no tormentors viz. neither good or bad Angels and if not they who then not Christ I am certain for he hath redeemed them neither God himself for the Apostle saith Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect it is God that justifieth who shall condemne Rom. 8. 33 34. God then having justified them by faith in Jesus Christ there is nothing further to be laid to their charge if then there be no tormentor in Purgatory there is no torment in Purgatory and so the fire of Purgatory is quite extinguished and put out SECT 4. Other circumstances not agreed on c. AGain besides the uncertainty who should be the tormenters there be other maine points not yet resolved amongst them concerning Purgatory as 1. Of the place where it is 2. Of the fire what it is whether it be Corporall or Spirituall 3. Of the time how long it shall last whether for hundreds of yeares or thousands 4. Concerning the greatnesse of the paine whether it exceed all the torments and punishments in this life all which Articles are not yet defined and determined amongst them we will therefore leave them to their uncertainties and as they make question of the circumstances of Purgatory so let all Christians not only make question of Purgatory it self but also assure themselves Purgatory and Absolution invented only to get money that it is meerely an invention of their owne as that of Absolution which they invented for no other end then to advance themselves in wealth and dignity For otherwise what rationall man can think that it is in the power of any man to forgive the

place helpeth not Lot sinned in the Mountaine Adam fell in Paradice the Angels in Heaven it is then but a meere fancy for them to think that a Monkes Coule a Cloysters life of a Hermites Weede can make a man more holy but it is to be seared that as Drunkennesse and Incense were committed in the Cav● so the Cloysters and Seles of Popish Votaries are not free from the like uncleanesse Obj. We read that holy men required often to desart 〈◊〉 as Moses Elias John Baptist yea our Saviour himself who often went apart to pray Ans That is no warrant for these Popish Professions aforementioned for these holy men did but for a time sequester themselves that thereby they might more seriously be given to Prayer and Meditation not leaving and renouncing their callings as the other superstitious people doe .. Againe they also in time of persecution fled into desart places therein shewing their humanity and infirmity least they might have been forced by persecution to deny the faith but these doe place the greatest perfection in this life in that solitary profession Like unto these is their superstitious Washings when they addresse Of their superstitious Washings themselves to consecrate the Heast and to approach unto the Altar muttering these words of the Prophet David I will wash my hands in innocency and so will I compasse thine Altar But this superstitious washing doth not justifie their Idolatrous service who whilst they wash their hands doe prophane Christs Supper and take away the fruitfull application and efficacy of his death by instituting a new Sacrifice Therefore as Pilate washed his hands and yet delivered Christ even to be Crucified so they wash their hands and yet doe crucifie Christ daily in the Masse in offering him up still in Sacrifice SECT 5. Of their Pennance and auricular Confession THeir Pennance consisteth of these three particulars viz. Contrition of the heart confession of the mouth and satisfaction of the worke Now all these may be in a reprobate as in the example of Pharaoh who confessed that he had sinned though it was no true confession being forced thereunto by the grievous plagues of Haile and Lightning that was upon him and his people Gen. 9. 27. for he simply confessed not his owne sins but now that is at this or that time I have sinned in this or that manner yea he also imitated satisfaction for he was also content to let the people goe As also in the example of Judas in 〈◊〉 may finde them all three as contrition and confession in these words I am guilty in betraying the innocent blood and satisfaction in the restoring of the money which be had taken to betr●y Christ But he wanted the fruit of true repentance the peace of the Conscience and clearing thereof before God by remission of sins as the Apostle sheweth Rom. 5. 1. Being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ As also 2 Cor. 7. 9. 11. where he sheweth that repentance to salvation is wrought by godly sorrow not to be repented of and contrariwise that the sorrow of the world worketh-death viz. the counterfett repentance before mentioned as was evident in Judas But more fully to expresse their meaning in these three particulars they would have contrition to be just due full and perfect and such as shall last to the end of a mans life never expressing when a man may be out of doubt that he hath performed this contrition but shall be in a continuall suspence of the pardon of his sins they also appoint a full and perfect contrition of heart appointing no measure unto it and so make it a part of satisfaction of their sins before God appropriating that unto man which is only proper to God himself Auricular confession is that which they would have made to their Priests and Shavelings to whom say they we must reckon up all our sins which can never be for as the Prophet saith Who can recite all his transgressions As also Whom have I in heaven but thee or in earth in comparison of thee Again I said I will confesse my sins unto the Lord and so thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin As also in Psal 51. Against thee only have I sinned c SECT 6. Obj. THe Apostle James doth exhort us to confesse our sinnes one to another c. Ans In those words the Apostle doth not meane that we should confesse them to Popish Shavelings neither doth he injoyne us to confesse our sins one to another as though we might expect pardon from one another but to the end that we might pray one for another as the ensuing words doe make it appeare for otherwise none can forgive sins but God only Satisfaction say they is made by teares and prayers by tayle before this or that stone Taper Lamp Coules with fasting Sack-cloth Almes Pilgrimages large Offerings or the like by which they think they pacifie the Lord and pay that which is due to Justice and make amends for their sins whereas Christ being our Advocate Mediator and Propisiation for our Sins we need no other recompence or satisfaction our sins being forgiven for his Name fake 1 Joh. 2. 2. 12. seeing he is the Lambe of God which taketh away the sins of the World Joh. 1. 26. whose satisfaction being perfect and absolute is imputed to us by faith which no man can obtaine but he that is also sanctified by the Spirit so that the Apostle speaking of such like traditions Colos 2. 20. saith That they all perish with the using being the commandements and doctrines of men having only a shew of Religion and humblenesse of minde but the body is of Christ Col. 2. 17. which very words of the Apostle like a Thunderboult breaketh in pieces all the traditions of the Romish Church as of Vowes Auricular Confession Satisfaction Purgatory Pardons and whatsoever is by them added to the Word of God which their Monks define to be the Service of God and by which they declare themselves to be Anti-christians SECT 7. Of speaking in an unknowne Tongue in the exercise of Divine Worship THe next thing that presents it self is their reading the Scriptures in an unknowne Tongue whereas in common reason if a man make a Covenant he ought to know those things whereunto he bindeth himself and therefore the Papists erre exceedingly in that they suffer not the people to understand those things which they binde them to keepe seeing neither the Scriptures are read or the Sacraments delivered in such a tongue as they doe understand for the Apostle saith If I come unto you with tongues what shall I profit you 1 Cor. 14. 6. in which Chapter this errour is so sufficiently confuted as that it is needlesse to speak any thing more to that purpose Another of their positions is that faith is not to be kept with Hereticks for so contrary to the safe conduct given by the Emperour to John Hus and Hierome of

that sweareth by heaven sweareth by the Throne of God he should be contrary to himself for elsewhere he saith Sweare not at all neither by heaven for it is the Throne of God Mat. 5. 34. We are also commanded by God himself that we should sweare We ought only to sweare by the name of God only by his name Deut. 6. 13. Thou shalt feare the Lord thy God and sweare by his name which text our Saviour abridging Mat. 4. interpreteth it by the word only him only shalt thou serve So also Deut. 10. 20. Exod. 23. 13. it is directly forbidden that they should take the name of any other God in their mouthes 2. God reprooveth those that sweare by any other then by him as Zep. 1. 5. I will cut off him that worship and sweare by the Lord and Malcham 3. Invocation only belongeth unto God but the taking of an Oath is a kinde of invocation therefore it is a service due only unto God 4. In the taking of an Oath we call God to witnesse unto our Soules that God only knoweth the secrets of our hearts but neither Angels or Saints doe so Ergo. 5. He that sweareth giveth power to him by whom he sweareth to punish him if he sweare falsly but God is only able to punish the Soule Mat. 10. 20. SECT 2. Obj. ●Oseph did sweare by the life of Pharaoh Gen. 42. 15. Ans Some held that this was no Oath but a vehement kinde of asseveration as Hanna said to Eli As thy soule liveth 1 Sam. 1. ●6 and Abner to Saul Sam. 17. 56. And so they would have the meaning to be this As truly as Pharaoh liveth or as I wish his life and he●lth so it is true that I say but it is not all one kinde or phrase to say unto one present As thy soule liveth and of one absent to say by his life or soule it therefore shewed some infirmity in Joseph though he worshipped the true God yet he learned to speake as other Courtiers did to sweare by Pharaohs life yet rather of custome of speech or the more cunningly to conceale himself from his Brethren then of any purposed imitation of their superstitious Oathes therefore Josephs example can be no warrant for us to imitate Obj. It is usuall when men take an Oath to lay their hand upon the Gospel therefore it is lawfull to sweare by the Creature Ans Men using the externall signe doe not sweare by it no more then Abrahams servant did sweare by his Masters Thigh when he put his hand under it Gen. 24. 1. he sware by the name of God So the Lord saith I will lift up my hand to heaven and say I will live for ever Deut. 32. 40. and the Angel lifted up his hand to heaven and sware by him that liveth for ever and ever Rev. 10. 6. so they lay their hands upon the Book as a visible signe or seale of the Oath but they sweare not by the Book but by God the Author of the Book but of the two I rather approve of the lifting up of the hand as in the presence of God ' it being the posture which the Angels and God himself are said to approve of as in the texts afore mentioned SECT 6. The close of the first Booke LAstly and to conclude the Discourse touching the Popes Tenents of the first Magnitude I will close them with the Magistrate from whose Power and Jurisdiction they exempt their Ecclesiasticall persons whereas in the time of the Law from whence they derive all their trumperies if the Priest ministring at the Altar had committed wilfull murther might be taken from it and put to death by the Magistrate wherein appeareth the soveraigne right and power which then the civill Magistrate had over the Priests of the Law as they were subject to the Magistrate in which respect neither are the Ministers of the Gospel any more exempted now from the Civill power then them Priests were then for the Apostle saith Let every soule be subject to the higher powers Rom. 13. 1. In which generall speech none are exempted yea Christ himself who might have pleaded greater priviledges in that behalf then any refused not to pay tribute for avoyding of offence Mat. 17. 27. So that touching the outward man we see both Christ and his Apostles yeelded themselves unto Caesar viz. to the Civill Magistrate Thus have I by Gods assistance discovered the greatest part of the grand treacheries of the Church of Rome or their Masse of delusions by which they have melted away all true religion and devotion from their ignorant followers as also have drawn tribute and advantage to themselves by wasting and melting their su●stances and running it into their own Coffers the Lord therefore in mercy open the eyes of these poore Creatures who have been so long deluded by that man of sinne who hath so long reigned over their bodies and soules in that tyrannous manner and that they may apply themselves to the Prophets direction to aske for the old way which is the good way and to w●lke therein Jer. 6. 16. as also to give them a heart to loath and abhor those damnable doctrines which are maintained by him and his adherents so directly against the Word of God as hath been made manifest in this Treatise which the Lord in mercy grant The Second part of Romes ruine by White-Hall c. Wherein is contained the confutation of Prelacy with other erronious opinions of the times c. CHAP. I. The first Chapter treateth of Vniversall redemption SECT 1. HAving in the first Treatise displayed the highest or grand delusion of Anti-christ I shall now incounter with the second sort of them being as branches of the same Tree or streames of the same fountaine which remaine yet unlopped or dryed up in this Nation in which onset I shall in the first place adventure of that too much owned Tenent of Vniversall redemption which gangreen doth much endanger the Spirituall life of many a poore soule My resolution in the enterprise shall be only to strike at the head of the Argument viz. Whether Jesus Christ by his death and passion redeemed the whole world yea or no against which affirmative part if I shall prevaile the circumstantiall members will fall of themselves And 1. That these places of Scripture cited by them to prove their assertions cannot possibly be meant of every particular person in the world will plainly appeare by Christs owne distinction in that expression of his to his Apostles Joh. 17. 11. 16. by comparing of which texts it will evidently appeare that the elect are a sort of people which are in the world and yet not of The elect in the world ●n● yet not of the world the world in the world in respect of their externall forme and substance and yet no● of it in respect of their internall affections so that they are in the world no otherwise then the Soul● is in man as wil

be compared to the Moabites Ammonites c. as also such Priests as have their call from Antichrist ought to be discharged of their office by the Magistrate as then Neh. 7. 64. albeit they have accompanied us during our said Captivities the ancient Statute Law of Christ and his Apostles being now clearly discovered unto us and therefore we ought to baptize all such as are of the houshold of faith and desire to renew the Covenant which their predecessors in Christianity practised in the primative times and that who ere they be that shall refuse to be so initiated or incorporated into the Body or Church of Christ now militant that soule ought to be cut off from the Church of Christ as the other was from the congregation of Israel Againe it is evident that as the Israelites had offended in the Wildernesse by their omission of Circumcision so they were likewise moved by a secret constraint to be Baptized of John the Baptist in Iordan as in Matth. 3. yea many of the Pharisees and Saduces verse 7. 8. c. SECT 7. Obj. VVHere is any now so called to Baptize as John the Baptist and the Disciples or who must first Baptize him that beginneth to Baptize others Ans Who Baptized Iohn the Baptist or the Apostles or Disciples of Christ seeing that Christ himselfe baptized none Iohn 4. 2. Obj. They were immediatly called to that office by Christ himselfe but there is none so called in these dayes Ans 'T is very true there is not so and therefore the now The Church of Christ hath retained the purity of baptisme by succession Church of Christ hath it by succession from them Apostles and Disciples that were so immediatly called and gifted Obj. How can that be in regard of the generall Apostacy which hath hapned since by meanes of Antichrist and his adherents Ans Generall Rules admit of some exceptions againe that is but meerly your conceipt as it was sometimes of the Prophet Elisha who thought the Apostacy in his time to have been universall amongst the ten Tribes 1 King 19. 10. yet the Lord leteth There hath not been a totall apostacie him know that he judged amisse for saith he I have left me seven thousand in Israel all the knees which have not bowed unto Baall and every mouth which hath not kissed him ver 18. So in the Apostacy which hath hapned by meanes of Antichrist and his adherents though you imagine it to be generall yet hath it hapned but in part as that of the Jewes Rom. 11. 25. for otherwise Christ should have been deprived of his Church militant which he hath ever preserved in part since he had a Church as also in that he hath promised to be with it unto the end of the world Mat. 28. 20. therefore albeit the true Church hath been hid for one thousand two hundred and sixty yeares in its wildernesse condition yet we must not therefore conclude that she hath been so long dead or utterly lost God having ever preserved her under that despised notion of Annabaptists unto this present time SECT 8. Obj. CAn you say that the Church of Christ hath been ever preserved in England since the Apostacy under that n●tion Ans It is impossible I should but yet it doth not follow that therefore it hath not been preserved in any place for the true The Churches of Christ in England received their rise from other Churches Church was given to understand that there was many Apostates or Antichrists even in the Apostles time 1 Epist Iohn 2. 18. which doubtlesse had their increasings untill that Prophecy was fulfilled which is described unto us by the Apostle Paul 2 Thess Chap. 2. which Man of sinne when he had obtained his highest altitude was to be destroyed by the brightnesse of the comming of Christ as is there also expressed which the Apostles fore-seeing did admonish the Churches then extant to keepe close to the faith as also to demeane themselves according to their direction as in the three first verses of that Chapter with ver the 15. as also Chap. 3. 1. c. and therefore 't is likely that those Churches in England received their rise from them of Geneva and them from others and so by gradations even from them Churches planted by the Apostles themselves for otherwise how could such Churches remaine extant but by succession from the Apostles being so lively a representation of their Churches as if they had been planted by the Apostles themselves a Church most likely of any Church in the world to be the true Church of Iesus Christ SECT 9. VVItnesse the little noyse it hath made in the world 1 Kin. The Anabaptisticall church so called proved to be the true Church 19. 12. in comparison of the Church of Rome or the Prelaticall or Presbiterian Church as also how little it hath interposed the civill Magistrate witnesse the Churches in London under that notion to their immortall praise be it spoken who when invited by the Levelling Party to disturbe the present Parliament in point of their civill Office did manifest their utter dislike of such actions desiring only to live under them a peaceable life in all godlinesse and honesty as by their Petition to the Parliament will fully appeare wherein also the now Parliament is acknowledged by them to be the supreame power of the Nation yea I am much mistaken if they were not the very first that did subscribe by Petition to the present government of the Nation for which with the reasons afore mentioned I conclude that that Church which you by way of reproach call Anabaptisticall is the true Church of Iesus Christ which hath been preserved from the power of the Dragon of Papacy and his Angels of Prelacy and Presbitery which was ready to devoure it so soone Rev. 12 5 6. as it was borne viz. in the Apostles times but it was caught up unto God and to his Throne and is now to rule all Nations with a rod of Iron this is the woman which fled into the Wildernesse of the world viz. amongst so many various opinions as hath been for these thousand two hundred and threescore yeares during which time she hath by providence been kept from their errors and preserved in her primative purity This being the time that her Michael and his Angels viz. the Pastors of that Church Michael the now Angel of the Church of Christ Rev. 12 7 8 9 is to make warre against the Dragon and his Angels and the old Serpent called the Devill and Satan as viz. the Pope and his Hierarchies of Papacy Prelacy and Presbitery and shall so prevaile as that there shall not be found any more place for him in his heaven or ministry which the Lord in mercy accomplish Now this Church being so preserved hath as much power to send out Labourers into Christs Harvest to teach and baptize for the rebuilding of the Church of Christ as any Church