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A79459 The dead speaking, or, The living names of two deceased ministers of Christ (contemporary, and eminently usefull in the west of England) viz. Mr. Sam. Oliver, and Mr. Samuel Crook Containing the sermon at the funeralls of the one preached by John Chetwind, B.D. and two severall speeches delivered at the funeralls of them both by William Thomas, B.D. Joyned together at the desire, and for the use chiefly of those Christians who were often occasional partakers of their labours. Chetwynd, John, 1623-1692.; Thomas, William, 1593-1667. aut 1654 (1654) Wing C3795; Thomason E726_6; ESTC R206780 57,363 84

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Heb. 2. 3. Secondly Apply what 's spoken to thy self Let the Preachers words take hold upon thee We are naturally well pleased when Preachers words take hold on others as Herod when John Preached against the Pharisees but we are loath they should come too close to our selves When John came to touch Herod about the matter of Herodias and meets with his beloved sin John Baptist shall lose his head Let us then be less inquisitive concerning others and apply what 's spoken to our selves Most men say as Peter of John What shall this man do but let us John 21. 21. 2 Sam. 7. 18. Mat. 19. 16. say as David Lord who am I or as that youngman in the Gospel to Christ not what shall others do But Lord what shall I do Be contented to be convinced of the evil of your own ways Suffer the word of Reproof This is a harder matter than men are aware of to be willing to be reproved The most of hearers are like Thistles you may stroak them upward without danger but press them downward and immediatly they offend Preach Gospel-truths and no more a wicked man likes it A Carnal heart can be content to hear of Christ and of grace The stony hearers Luke 8. 13. receive this word with joy But once tell him This way of wickedness is unlawful this or that profitable sin must be left this gain or pleasure parted with Then away with these fellows These are they which trouble the world as those unbeleeving Jews spoke of the Apostles They which have turned the whole world Acts 17. 6. upside down are come hither also It s the property of a true beleever to be willing to be told of his faults that he may amend them And it s the property of an Hypocrite yea his discovery by which he may know himself That he cannot endure to hear of his sins because he is not minded to forsake them Paul is accounted an enemy if he speak the truth and that Gal. 4. 16. in the esteem of those who sometimes could have been content to pull out their own eyes to have done him good So Herod heard John Baptist gladly till he told him him of Herodias Thus are many so pleased with their sins that they are angry with those that shew them they are sins as that distracted man I have read of Who imagined himself a King in which distemper'd conceit he so pleased himself That when he was cured he was displeased with the Physician who restored him to his right mind So is it with Hypocrites who are so pleased in the ignorance or mistake of some profitable practicals that they are offended with such who by a discovery of the truth shall undeceive them Be perswaded to accept of Reconciliation offer'd and that upon Gods own terms He sends his Embassadors on this errand to entreat you and beseech 2 Cor. 5. 19 20. you to be reconciled Have good thoughts then of God and Jesus Christ for know what was flatteringly spoken of Julius Caesar Nihil oblivisci solet nisi injurias that he forgot nothing but injuries is most true of God and Jesus Christ who forget nothing but the sins of penitent supplicants Having thus dispatched the Improvement of this truth and occasion as they respect this City and Congregation unto whom our Reverend friend was a faithful Pastor I shall now proceed to speak those things which our dead Brother speaks to us the surviving dispensers of Gospel mysteries briefly thus Walk answerably to the immortality of our imployment Having our hearts and affections setled upon things of eternity This Doctrine hath taught us that the Ministers imployment is about things that never dy O How unsuitable a thing it is to have Heaven in our mouths and the world in our hearts Let us not live below the word we Preach God teacheth by precept and example so should Si vis me fl●re dolendum est primum ipsi tibi Preachers If you would have another grieve for sin you must first grieve your selves and practise that you press others too It s a good rule of an antient Cavendum est ne admirandae virtutis mali sumus pastores Look to this let our lives express our Preaching lest we hear that Physician cure thy self Luke 4. 23. It s a witty observation I have read and I wish it were not as true as witty Some Preachers are such in the Pulpit that when they are there its pitty they should ever come forth and when they are out of the Pulpit its pitty they should ever come in Pudet haec opprobria nobis Et dici potuisse non potuisse reselli Ther 's truth in this sad story O what shame That such reproach and unrefuted blame Should stain the glory of so good a name Let us labour then Reverend Fathers and Brethren to manifest our savouring of eternity by our actions as well as expressions especially by our sitting loose from and undervaluing of earthly things Let us look to this Ne surgant indocti rapiant coelum nos cum nostris literis detrudimur in B●rathrum Let not those who comparatively are mean in knowledge compass Heaven and we our selves with all our learning prove cast aways O let us now learn this lesson from this our Reverend deceased Fellow-Labourer Of whom I do boldly affirm upon my own knowledge that he was exceeding free from that which is a sordid thing in all Christians but a most indelible blemish in the Lords dispensers earthly-mindedness For of him I may say and say truly what was spoke of Luther Non curabat Aurum He used but not loved the world I know we are all of us exceeding witty to find out arguments to just●fie that course we have a mind unto and a sad thing it is that covetousness which is Idolatry should be accounted provident care and Col. 3. 5. good Husbandry We are ready to say as Ministers we Preach eternals but as men we look to temporals I grant this and therefore adde That it s not the having but the loving and the inordinate seeking after the world that God condemns Let us not then deceive our selves for if God condemn the man for his earthly mindedness what will become of the Minister withall his spirituals Suitable to this is that story of an Arch-Bishop of Colen who marching with his followers in a warlike and stately equipage was met by a Country-man The Countryman smiled and being asked the cause of that incivility answered That he could not choose but smile and did greatly wonder that the Apostles who were themselves so mean and poor should have such rich stately and magnificent successors The Arch Bishop replyed that he was a Duke as well as an Arch-Bishop and as a Duke was now so attended on with that warlike Company The Country man replyed that he desired him to resolve this question When my Lord the Duke for his pride shall be
cast into Hell what then will become of my Lord the Arch-Bishop And indeed Brethren we have need to be warned because the worlds profits and honours are the most powerful temptations and therefore Satan made it his last assault against Christ by shewing him whom Mat. 4. 8. he hoped to have found like another man the Kingdoms of the world and the glory thereof Though Satan herein lost his labour yet he prevails thereby too much with many who with Balaam run greedily Jude 11. after the ways of iniquity and as Judas even sell their masters for pieces of silver and with Demas 2 Tim. 4. 10. forsake the Gospel to embrace the present world O the glory of the world How alluring the deceivableness of Riches How prevailing this makes men 1 Tim. 6. 5. kneel down to the devil without a Cushion and think That gain is godliness The Labourer is worthy Ibi fas ibi plurima mercis Luke 10. 7. Psal 35. 27. Salvian of his Hire and he that doth Gods work and trusts him for it shall not want his wages God is a good Master who delights in the prosperity of his servants An antient said of some O that it might not be truly said of some of us that are here present Uti volunt Deo ut fruantur mundo They use God that they may enjoy the world And I have read of a Fryer that he would alwaies in a counter-feit humility dine upon a Net till he had gaind the Popedome Let not then I beseech you Brethren our own preferment credit maintenance or any outward advantage be our proposed aim in our Ministerial employment Let it not be said of any of us Lanam non agnos Lac non vaccam Vineam propter vinum Populum ob praedam petunt I will not I need not English it they who know no Latine are too apt to speak it and O that it might be without cause For should we so do we should fetch our fire from our own Kitchins which should be lighted at Gods Sanctuary and thereby turn that which otherwise would be lawful gain into filthy lucre No know there is a more excellent gain even souls This Paul sought witness that expression I seek not yours but you and therefore Preachers should say as the King of Sodom did to Abraham Da mihi animas Caetera tolle tibi Give me the souls take thou the rest Let us look up to our Lord and Master Jesus Christ whose Embassadors Servants Messengers we pretend we are and since we bear his name and do his work its fit we should desire to have his mind he sought not his own but our advantage as Mercurie in Plautus being transformed into Sosia Etenim vero quoniam formam cepi hujus in me statum Decet facta mor esque hujus habere me similes item Walk we as Christ walked Tread in his steps 1 John 2. 6. Let us not do Gods will in our imployment for meat and drink But let it be our meat and drink to do Gods will O then Reverend Fathers and Brethren let the immortality of our imployment cause us to walk answerable to eternity The woman that was clothed with the Sun had the Moon under her feet and they who are Gods Agents to trade for Heaven should scorn the Devils factory for the earth For if in our hearts and practices we serve the world and yet with our tongues Preach the word We may peradventure as Noahs Carpenters help to build the Ark and yet be drowned our selves I now come to the general improvement of this truth to all of us here present First see the Excellency of the Ministerial imployment It s conversant about Eternal things All other imployments are in and about finite and temporal affairs The work of Lawyers Physicians all other professions is bounded within the limits of time Only the Ministers work runs parallel with the longest line of eternity The word of Christ Preached by them being not a finite message but an everlasting Gospel This consideration I would commend unto Rev. 14. 6. you that you that are Hearers may be able to judge and we that are Preachers may be able to bear those unworthy reproaches the poysoned Arrows of envenomed tongues set on fire by Hell that at this day James 3. 6. are darted against the pretious servants of God the faithfull dispensers of his word What though prophane Epicures scoffing Ismaels mocking M●chols furious frantick fiery Opinionists like Sampsons Foxes though looking contrary ways yet linked together by the tayls with firebrands Judges 15. all joyn together to cast reproach and dirt in the face of Gods servants Yet know that the excellency of our imployment the eternity of our work may support our spirits against all those disgraces that the unrestrained wickedness or wittiness of men unjustly lay upon us Now as to these reproaches I shall trespass yet further upon your patience while I shall mind you of 1. Some observations concerning them 2. Rules to direct us in our carriage under them 1. Observations 1. It s no new thing So persecuted they the Prophets Mat. 5. 12. that were before If the Jews call Christ Mat. 10. 25. Beelzebub who came to destroy Satan shall we now wonder if any call those Ministers Antichristian that have and alwaies do oppose Anti-Christ If the Galatians who would at first have Gal. 4. 15 16. pluckt out their eyes yet afterwards esteem Paul their enemy shall we now admire that some who have been formerly forward favourers of faithful Preachers are now become profess'd revilers Whence comes this alteration Not because Paul was changed No he spake still the Gal. 3. 1. same truth But because the Galatians bewitched by false teachers were fallen from that truth they formerly pretended a love unto 2. It s no sad thing as to those who are reproched but rather a cause of joy Rejoyce and be exceeding glad saith our Saviour for great is your Mat. 5. 12. reward For certainly it is not any personal quarrel that men have with Ministers that is the cause they dislike and vilifie them No but it s because they Preach the truth and therefore it s the truth of God they hate more than it is the Minister that Preached it For Propter quod unumquodque est tale illud est magis tale What causes the hatred is most hated Christ saith Woe be to him of whom every one speaks well and we may adde Woe be to him of Luke 6. 26 whom every one speaks ill but to be spoken evil Vituperari â malis esse laudari of by those who are themselves evil is no disgrace 3. It s no hurtful or dangerous thing and so not much to be regarded but to be pass'd by with a silent neglect The generous steed neglects contemptible barkings They hurt themselves most by that which they think to disgrace others by The stones
to him for putting so much bitterness into the medicine as was necessary for a sound and through cure of the disease The third Rule Adde not Sin to affliction nor discontent to disasters Be not worse for Gods hand let not affliction draw forth thy corruption unless it be to expel it as launcing Tents bring out the corrupt matter of a festered Ulcer but let it exercise and set a work thy grace chiding ordinarily stirs up choler but in prudent men it calls in patience and makes their moderation the better known to all men when all 's hot about them Perantiperistasni they are the colder Job here is that wise and well tempered man who rents his mantle shaves his head and sorroweth much but in all this Job sinned not First his Oxen and Asses were taken away and his servants slain by the Sabaeans ver 14. 15. Immediatly after that he heard that the fire of God fallen from Heaven had burn'd up his Sheep and his servants v. 16. Upon that comes the news that the Caldeans were fallen upon the Camels and had carried them away and slain the servants ver 17. And lastly that the House was fallen upon his Children while they were feasting together and that they were dead ver 18. 19. Yet in all this in all these calamities (a) Mercer in this whole busines● (b) Vatablus Mercer in al his demeanour and carriage in the midst and height of this manifold affl●ction he sinned not in heart or charged God foolishly in word as some distinguish it O How much may God do to a good man to a man grown in goodness before he will g●ve him an ill word or entertain an ill thought of him Not to sin in all his carriage after all these calamities this is a patience that Honours Heaven and justifies Gods testimony of Job ver 8. That makes Hell ashamed for the Devil said he would curse God v. 11. That makes the world wonder and still talk of the patience of Job (c) Jam. 5. 11. and declares to all the solicitous servants of God what a prevailing thing the Grace of God is for the mastering of all impetuous and rebellious affections in the most irritating afflictions I say it is so bona si sua norint if they be careful to improve their grace and put it to its utmost strength Now that we may not adde sin nor suffer our corrupt affections to mutiny against God in the day of our trouble and the anguish of our Soul let us consider from the present Text what sin and our heart risings against God in afflictions are to wit a charging of God foolishly It s a charging and a foolish charging First It s a charging of God for with him we have to do in all conditions Hee 's the supreme Men and Devi's work under him wickedly but he works in and by them holily and wisely Nor doth God barely permit but commit such and such things to such Instruments 1 Kings 22. 20 22 23. The matter standeth not thus here that the Devil moves for the molesting of Job and so God signs the Petition and gives way at the Devils sute to the Devils design and ther 's an end of the business but God for holy ends hath a purpose to afflict Job and trie him to the uttermost and the Devils motions and machinations succeed and serve that purpose Job 23. 14. We ought to speak soberly of these things but yet we may say truly that when God hath a work to do he accommodates himself with and makes use of what instruments he pleaseth and takes the doing of the thing to himself 2 Sam. 12. 12. I will do this though the sin in the acting be the instruments onely what these do in a sinfull God doth in a penal or probatory way as here in Job Now shall we rise up and rage against God 2 Kings 19. 27 28. Yet How prone are we in greater troubles and pressures to say Never any so troubled as I We fret we chaff None abou● us can please us they that are neer us in relation have little heart to come neer us I beseech you consider what all this impatience amounts to It is in true judgment A drawing up of a charge against God and Is it fit wee should charge Him Our neer friends die wee may call them our Gourd [a] Jona 4. 7 8 9. being a kind of guard to us against the heat and violence of worldly troubles these Gourds wither and we are angry Our soules are disquieted and we never ask why Psal 42. 11. but perhaps make as if we did well to be angry to the death for our Gourd is withered and the Sun beats on our heads But what made that Gourd to wither Sure some worm or other But who prepared that worm Is it not God and is it not he also that prepares that vehement East winde so that the sun beats on our head and we are ready to faint Doth God indeed do all this and wilt thou condemn him that is most just (b) Job 34. 17. Is He fit to be the object of our anger O●t hath Heaven cause to be angry with earth but was earth ever justly angry with heaven must we needs wound that Supreme and Almighty power that cannot pervert judgment [c] Job 34. 12. through the sides of instruments and providences How much better was David's reverent resolution I was dumb I opened not my mouth because thou Lord didst it Psal 39. 9. I say How much b●tter and how much wiser For Secondly This charging of God is a foolish thing therefore Job said to his wife tempting him to do so Thou speakest like one of the foolish women [d] Job 2. 10. The folly in it is manifest For 1. The Charge is presumptuous He goes very high that opens his mouth against heaven [e] Psal 73. 9. Governors they say must be accountable but it is because they be men God is greater than man and gives no account of any of his matters [f] Job 33. 12 13. He 's far above all charges and contestations 2. It s Unrighteous It s a charge that can never be made good for God will not lay upon man more than is right that he should enter into Judgment with God Job 34. 23. So the folly of unrighteousnes is added to the folly of presumption 3. There is added to both the folly of Selfe-ruine while we wrangle with God out of self-respects such presumption doubles or trebles our affliction when Israel murmured after the destruct●on of Korah there dyed for that repining foureteen thousand and seven hundred Numb 16. 41 49. beside them that dyed about the matter of Korah and this men get by their thwarting with God Q. What 's to be done then in the time of trouble to prevent the risings of our hearts against heaven A. Find them a contrary work Instead of charging God foolishly let us charge