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A07435 A confutacion of that popishe and antichristian doctryne, whiche mainteineth ye ministracyon and receiuing of the sacrament under one kind made dialoge-wise betwene the prieste and the prentyse by Gracyous Menewe. Menewe, Gracious.; Becon, Thomas, 1512-1567, attributed name. 1555 (1555) STC 17821; ESTC S109986 28,308 98

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it thorowe the death passion and bloud shedding of his sōne Iesu Chryst. But none of all these thyngs ar done Wherfore ye must confesse though ther were none other thynge amysse y t all that ye doe is moste vngodlye And who hauyng a good cōscience would be glad to agree to such an vngodlynes No man I trowe y t loueth hys soules health Priest is thys all that ye can say cōcerning thys matter Is thys al the faute that ye can fynde Ye are a wyse mā for south Ye shalbe made one of the counsell Ye shall appoynte howe and after what fashyon all thynges shalbe done and vsed in y e ministracion of thys holye sacrament Prentyse Now master persōe in thyngs that belonge to this holy and blessed sacrament we nede not to goe to man for to haue instruction in the matter for as the holy martyr S. Ciprian saieth if y e trueth wauereth or is doubted of in any poynt we ought to flye to y e originall of the lorde and to the Euangelicall and Apostolical tradition And therefore Saint Paul beeyng aboute to set forth to the churche and congregacyon of Corinthus the ryghte vse of thys sacramente goeth to the very institution it selfe saying that thyng whyche I haue receaued of y e lord I haue delyuered vnto you And thys dyd he speake .xxvi. yeares after the ascension of the lord hauīg trauailed through many countries of the world and hauyng seen many churches that the Apostles had planted in that space both in Asia and in many other regions besids Priest But I prai you now what is the institution of Chryste Prētyse The institution of Chryste is set forth at large in the xxvi chap of mathew in the xiiii chapter of Marke in the xxii of Luke and in the xi chap. of the first to the Corinthiās wher we haue these words The LORDE Iesus in the same nyght that he was betrayed toke bread and when he had geuen thankes he brake it and said Take ye and eate Thys is my body whyche is broken for you This do ye in the rememberaunce of me After the same maner also he toke the cup when supper was dō saying Thys cup is the newe testamente in my bloud Thys doe as ofte as ye drynke it in rememberaunce of me Thys faute then doe I fynde besydes all other fautes y t I haue rehearced alredye that ye robbe y e congregacion of halfe the sacramente taking awaye from them that moste treaterously the mistycall cup. Wherefore I muste nedes condemne in thys poynte your proceadynges as most vngodly and detestable And verely I cā not iudge thys to be the sacramente of the body and bloud of Chryste but rather an apishe counterfeytynge of the same seeyng that ye do besids the idolatrye and other innumerable blasphemyes that are committed about it take awaye the chefest part of it that is to say the cuppe whyche is a moste lyuely rememberaunce and playne certyficat of the free remission and forgeuenes of our synnes that we haue in the bloud of our sauyour Iesu Chryst. Therefore who hauyng one crome of godlynes in hys heart woulde not detest abhorre your doings Who beholdyng your presumptuous boldnes would not tremble quake for feare of the vengeaunce of god that he threatneth vnto all them that adde any thyng vnto hys worde or minyshe any thynge from it Or that do sacrilegeously take vpon them to alter chaunge hys institucions and ordinaūces Priest What payne is it to heare vnlearned and rude people talke Ye do not perceiue nor vnderstād why nor wherefore thys is done that is the cause that ye dooe so shamefully erre Prentyse I wold fayne heare of you some probable reason for the satisfying of my cōscience Priest Ye shal vnderstand yonge man that when the churche was yet rude it did vse both kids but afterwardes when it dyd perceaue that the one kynde myghte suffise the lay people that the errour of some myght bee stopped whyche peraduenture wold haue thought that the body of Chryste in the sacrament is geuen beeynge separated from the bloud and the bloud beeyng seuered from the body it hath ordeyned that y e Prists onelye shoulde in their masses vse both kyndes and that the one only shoulde be ministred to the lay people Dooe ye not heare nowe why and wherefore it hath been done Prentise Ye say master person that the church dyd at the begynnyng when it was yet rude vse both kyndes Woulde god we were as wel learned in thyngs that belong to true chrystyan religion as they were in the primityue churche when they folowed onely the lyghtsōe worde of god for theyr guide The churche saye ye dyd afterwardes perceaue that the one kynde was sufficient for the laite What cold I pray you your Pope catholikes see and perceyue that y e Apostles and fathers of y e primitiue church whych were all indued with so aboundant a spirite had not perceaued and seen What is our knowledge in comparison of their knowledge but mere darkenesse blīd supersticion ye say furthermore that it hath ben don to cause vs to putte awaye the erroure of them whyche peraduenture woulde beleue or thynke that the bodye of Chryste is geuen separatly from the bloud asthough the body shold syt in heauen at the ryghte hand of the father wythout bloud These bee your monsterous inuencions for no heretikes sence the cōminge of Chryste dyd euer imagine this kynde of erroure and blasphemye But graunte that there hath been such an heresye coulde it be put awaye none otherwyse but by mutilatyng mangling and deprauatīge the sacramente and takynge halfe of it awaye There maye aryse many pernycyous opynions touching that other parte whyche is leafte woulde ye therfore take it awaye cleane how muche rather oughte we to take hede that we doe in no wyse swarue from the institucyon of Chryste nor preache otherwyse then Chryste his apostles haue preached Thys oughte to bee the chiefe principle in diuinite whervnto all thynges must be resolued The Lord hath spoken this is the worde of god that remayneth for euer If we shoulde be called from it to mens constitucions and ordeīnaunces whyche are alwayes mutable we should haue no stablenes in religion but shoulde be dryuen from that whyche is moste certain and sure to that whyche is moste vncertayne and vnsure mans autorite beeyng made equall wyth gods autorite It is wrytten in the Epistle to the Galathyans if we or an aūgel from heauen shoulde preache otherwyse than ye haue heard lette him be accursed If Paul wil haue neyther aungels nor apostles to be harkened vnto if they teache anye thyng or appoynte anythyng cōtrary to the gospell shall we geue eares to a sorte of beastes y e dare presume to peruerte and altere Chrystes holy institucion in hys sacraments Priest Was not this confyrmed in the counsel of Constance And ye