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A62481 The three countrey-mens English answers to the clergy-mens Latine charges. Or, the lay-mens plain English, in answer to the unknown language of the pretended spiritual court at Winton Unto which is added a short relation of the dealings of Iohn Hayes priest with two of them after they were excommunicated. Also twenty four queries propounded to be answered by those that call themselves spiritual men. Gearle, Edmund, d. 1672. 1664 (1664) Wing T1085; ESTC R222199 12,394 16

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thou the aforesaid Edmond Gearle though thou hast been asked and called upon for the abovesaid summe of two shillings two pence oft times or once by the aforesaid Henry Burret and Alexander Faithful guardians or by one of them for and towards the reparation of the Church aforesaid yet thou hast denied or refused or yet dost delay or defer at present to pay the same c. Answ Yea I had good reason so to do and if I had met but with such reasonable dealing as usually is among heathens they had not need to have asked more of me nor have had that unreasonable covetousnesse to seek any more from me towards their defective Church for the which there being taken from me by John Cox and Nicholas Thomas in the year 1658. one brewing kettle one washing kettle one peuter dish worth about twelve shillings though their own demand was but five shillings five pence which was also for repairing the defective Church so that above three years since the guardians of the said Church have had from me about six shillings seven pence aforehand which is about three times two shillings now demanded so that of right and by good reason if not according to your own way there remains due to me near four shillings five pence and therefore as I said I had good reason not to pay any more toward your defective Church 10. Also that thou knowest that the aforesaid Henry Burret and Alexander Faithful guardians abovesaid for all and singular the matters and things abovesaid and on their parts have rightfully and lawfully complained unto us and our office in this behalf c. Answ This is utterly false that I do know that you called guardians to your foresaid defective Church did rightfully and lawfully complain unto your office for all and singular matters and things aforesaid nor yet any part thereof being utterly false is turned back unto you as a filthy thing which is not in the name of God though at first you did take his name into your mouths and now appear something worse then those that began in the Spirit and end in the flesh if you have only begun with his name in your mouths and at the end lies proceed out of the same mouth like blessing and cursing 11. Also that thou knowest believest or hast heard to be said that all and singular of the premises have been and are true and concerning which and all the said premises the aforesaid Guardians do require Justice to be administred with the effects c Answ What I know believe is one thing and what I have heard to be said may be another for I may know and believe the truth but if I should harken much to such lying men as the Priests of England who have now sufficiently shewed themselves I may not only hear what is said to be lies but the lyes themselves for they said and pretended they led us the right way before and now they would lead us another way and say this is right and they said they were Ministers of Christ before and now they deny their own profession and practice and yet pretend they are Ministers of Christ now and though they for filthy lucre turn every way like the wind and creep for dust or earthly things like Serpents yet still they pretend to be right and as for your said Guardians justice from you upon me it is more like they are forced by you and your wicked oaths imposed upon them to do what they do when they had rather be quiet with their neighbours who by these unchristian like proceedings are sometimes now set at variance and so you shew your selves like fools that stirre up strife and as for the justice of your Court which sheweth little mercy I have neither known nor do I believe nor certainly hear that you have full power according to your own Law by special Pattent or Broad Seal for what you do but remember you must receive from God according to your works by me who am a lover of the Truth called EDMOND GEARLE JAcob was a plain man and the Lord loved him and we are plain men and are perswaded that Gods love is towards us however men may hate us and seek occasion against us and use us hardly as our Fathers were in Egypt but we having the love of God shed abroad in our hearts we dare not offend him in doing or upholding that which the Lord hath shewed us to be evil and though we have not much knowledge in the Law yet we know what is just reasonable though we have not much heretofore known the proceedings in this which you call a Spiritual Court yet we see and plainly understand that you who are the upholders thereof are not guided by the spirit of God who is Love nor by the spirit of his son who said love your enemies but by another spirit the fruits whereof both towards us and before our faces hath appeared to be quite contrary to the spirit of God which is shewn by the Apostles Gal 5. yea and you have shewed forth works of darknesse towards us throwing away our hats and even abusing them and us as once by prophane cursing of us and then give us writing wherein it may be is declared what is demanded but by reason it is written in such a dark way not only in Latine but in such an unsound and uncertain or unknown way that if we were willing to pay it we can scarce come to know how much it is whereby also it appears you are men of such a spirit that seeks to keep us in darknesse and blindnesse and from the knowledge of those things which concerns our bodies and estates as well as our souls that by no means we might understand it though we much desire the same and we know no reason that we or any else should give any unto you for so doing neither can we be free or clear in the sight of God to pay towards the maintenance of such a Priesthood which is to be upheld by men of such a spirit nor to uphold or repair such Temples in which they not we do worship but we confesse Christ come and him to be our Priest for ever and the Bishop of our souls and our bodies are a spiritual house built up of living stones of which Christ is the Head we own which is not a Temple made with hands for ye are the Temple of the living God and I will dwell in them and walk in them saith the Lord but as for that place built with mens hands called a Church we own it not for the Church and therefore we cannot pay to the upholding of the same Josiah Wickham Nicholas Wonson The Reader may know that the Declarations which these three men received at the Court were one and the same only their names and the summes of Money demanded were several as one two shillings two pence another two shillings six pence and the other