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A12793 The sale of salt. Or The seasoning of soules Namely such, as for whom the chapmen here doe come, and whom the author, which taketh the name of a salter, is willing, what in him lieth, to season with the salt of the Word, leauing the successe to the Lord, without whose blessing in such works we can do nothing. Written by Iohn Spicer, minister of the word of God at Leckhamsteed in the county of Buckingham. Spicer, John. 1611 (1611) STC 23101; ESTC S117790 175,913 412

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that Saint Peter speakes of such 〈◊〉 carnall faith as doth not carry about with it the feare of God if there were some feare of God in Cornelius before Saint Pete● preached remission of sinnes vnto him through faith in Iesus Christ as wee may see in Acts the 10 the 2 verse no doubt i● was in him much more aboundantly afterward Assure thy selfe therefore my good friend that where is a sound faith in our Sauiour there is also the feare of God but each of those hath his proper office for by faith we beleeue that Christ dying for our sins ●rising againe for our iustification Rom 4.25 3 25. 5 9. hath reconciled vs vnto God and that we iustified by his bloud shall bee saued from wrath through him and feare ioyned to loue serueth to bridle our corrupt affections that we might walke worthy of our vocation to the glory of God the good example of others and to the assuring of our owne selues that we haue that faith whose end as Saint Peter saith is the saluation of our soules 1. Pet. 1.9 2 Chap. Good Salter make an end with ●im or else I will be gone Salt I haue done with him if hee haue ●one with me 1 Chap. If it be so I may depart with●ut paying any thing for my Salt Salt We will talke of that another time ●ome now my second Chapman what ●ould you haue The second Chapman Would haue salt to season such as seeme to me not to bee so obedient to the Kings Maiesties lawes as they ought Some will not come to Church some will not com●unicate some that be lusty and strong wil ●ouch no fish on such daies as flesh is for●iden by the lawes not as if it did defile ●s of it selfe any day but that as God hath ●ent both so both might be spent by strong ●odies in fit time for the good of the com●on-wealth I am in charity to iudge the ●est of their loue and affection towards his Highnesse Tim. 1.2 such as bee in authority vnder ●im for whom we are bid to pray but this 〈◊〉 certaine many disobey some in one thing some in another Salt Such as refuse to come to Chur●● are not of the Prophet Dauids mind w●● in his Psalmes sheweth that not onely h● himselfe loued to be in the house of the Lor● but * reioyced to see others there also Psal 122. I● the Psalme 42 he sheweth that he was mu●● grieued that he could not as aforetimes g●● with the multitude and lead them into th● house of God with the voyce of singing an● praise In the 84 he saith his soule lo●geth yea and fainteth for the courts of th● Lord and that be had rather bee a dore-keper in the house of God then to dwell in th● tabernacles of wickednesse In the 95 Psalme he doth as it were kno● the bell calling the people together wit● Come come come In the first vers● come let vs reioyce vnto the Lord. In th● second verse let vs come before his fac● with praise in the 6 verse Come let v● fall downe and kneele before the Lord ou● maker not meaning by the word Maker 〈◊〉 Sacrament which some in Popery hau● called their maker saying they had seen● there maker when they had seene the Hoa● lifted vp for the Psalmes were made som● hundred yeares ere Christ tooke bread an● brake it but by the Maker hee meant th● inuisible God the Creator of all things in●● whose gates in the hundred Psalme hee ●ddeth the people enter with praise and ●nto his Courts with reioyeing and in the ●salme 122 he saith he reioyced when the ●eople said vnto him not as some now fro●ardly say we will not but wee will go vp ●●to the house of the Lord and who know●●h not it is a greater comfort to King He●●kiah to heare that the third day he should 〈◊〉 vp to the house of the Lord. If they do 〈◊〉 forget these words but thinke vpon ●●em well enough then belike they take ●ot our Church for the Lords Courts be●●use they see not Saint Dumbs image in ●●ery Church before whom they might in ●●nour of some other bend and how but ●●are you friend Chapman doe you your ●●fe obserue euery iot and title of the law Chap. I am to craue pardon of God and ●●an for many things and this I may say ●ith a safe conscience that I was neuer I ●aise God for it so superstitiously bewit●ed but that vnderstanding that our late ●●re Queene of famous memory was and ●●is our right dread Soueraigne Lord King ●ames thankes be to the Almighty is a fa●urer of that Gospell which Saint Paul ●●ith Rom. 1.16 is the power of God vnto saluation to euery one that beleeueth haue bene both of them very carefull that the holy Scriptures concording to the skil of those within this land are best learned in the tongues might bee faithfully and truely translated the Sacraments rightly administred and that al in the land both high and low might bee edified and liue in peace loue and vnity which are the badges of true Christianity vnderstanding this I say I saw not with what conscience I might refuse to goe with my neighbours to the Church where the word of God is sounded out and to ioyne with them in prayers for all estates and degrees for all graces needfull and for pardon for al our sinnes I could neuer take him for a true Vicar of Christ that would keepe me from hearing the word of God in a tongue that I vnderstood or seemed more carefull to feede our sences with needlesse and barren ceremonies then our foules with necessary and fruitfull Sermons Touching meates though I haue learned that to the cleane whose hearts are purified by faith all things that God hath cleansed and appointed to bee receiued with thankes-giuing are as pure and cleane as fish figs and Almonds c. Yet for that God shall destroy both bellies and meates and for that flesh by our ●●wes sometimes is forbidden and fish ●●ommanded to be fed on as I said before ●or the common good of the land I like not ●●at yong lusty fellowes which can well di●est any kind of fish should in time of re●●raint when they come to faires or mar●ets seeke alwaies to places where the spits ●re loaden with rost and the ouens full of ●●esh pies this maketh the Butcher busy the ●●shmonger fume and addeth strength to ●●nnefull flesh which is prone enough of it ●elfe to euill needeth no flesh-pampering ●o worke his owne woe If sometimes ●●en haue found fish hurtfull vnto them or ●ot hauing good flesh present should in the ●eare of God and without contempt of ●awes eate some flesh it is to be thought ●hat as God preferreth mercy to sacrifice so 〈◊〉 Christian Magistrate which wisheth as●●ell to all his louing subiects as a father ●●oth to his children will consider of cir●●umstances and discerne betwixt the aged ●nd some
Rom 15 4 whatsoeuer things are written are written for our learning Tract But Sir Thomas Moores bookes and the Golden-legend and such like are written ergo for our learning Guid. Soft Maister Tractable you are too forward for you minor or assumption if I had bene disposed to make a sillogisme I would haue done it without your helpe if the Apostle had meant whatsoeuer was written in any booke you had concluded well but he meant not so for if he had then we should reade for our learning Huon of Burdeaux Beuis of Hampton all bookes of fables errours and lies whatsoeuer but he speaketh of the holy Scriptures for immediately after the former words he hath these that we through patience comfort of the Scriptures might haue hope And when hée saith as it is written I haue made thee a father of many Nations and againe now it is not written for him only Gen. 17.4.15.6 that it was imputed to him Abraham for righteousnesse but also for vs c. he meaneth writtē in Genesis And when he writeth to the Corinthians touching the Death and Resurrection of Christ our Redéemer hee saith 1. Cor. 15.3.4 that Christ dyed for our sinnes according to the Scriptures Exo. 12.6 7 Ps 22 15.16 17. and that he was buried and that hee arose the third day Esa 34 53. Zach 13 7 according to the Scriptures And Saint Peter writing to those that had obtained like precious faith c. saith Wee haue also a more sure Propheticall word to the which you do well that yée take héed as vnto a light that shineth in a darke place Dan. 9.26 Ionas 1.17 2. Pet. 1 19. vntill the day dawne and the Day-starre arise in your hearts not meaning that the words of the Prophets in themselues were more firme or of greater credit then the Gospell of Christ or that voyce of God the Father Math. 17.5 This is my beloued Sonne in whom I am well pleased heare him Tract Saint Peter saith hee heard that voyce when hee was with him in the Holy mount but he saith nothing of these words heare him Guid. No more doth hee mention his owne words spoken a little before that voyce came Rom. What words were those Guid. Maister it is good for vs to be here c. we may not thinke that Saint Mathew reporteth an vntruth because Saint Peter spake not all at once there was a voyce also from heauen when Christ was baptized but then neither Mathew Mark nor Luke mentioned those words heare him But to returne to the matter we haue in hand you sée by the places I cited that for the guiding of our faith and bringing of vs to the true knowledge of our saluation purchased by Christ we are sent to the Scriptures therefore Mistresse Romana and you Maister Tractable if you will build surely build your faith on the holy scriptures let no mens writings carry you any whither without this good guid If you would take as great delight in reading the Bible as you do in the books you speak of pray God heartily in al humility of spirit to giue you such mesure of knowledge as may suffice to bring true comfort to your soule and therewithall bee willing and diligent in hearing the Word taught which is a special ordinary means to plant in you a sound Faith in Christ our Wisedome Righteousnesse Sanctification and Redemption I doubt not but in short space you should sée how fowly you were deceiued in thinking you might go to heauen by obseruing mens Traditions stumbling in the darke without the word of God which the Prophet Dauid calleth a Lantherne to his feet and a light to his pathes Ps 119.105 Rom. If I should giue eare vnto you M. Guidewell and such as you are would you bring me to any other faith thē that which is called Catholike Guid. The summe of the ancient Catholicke faith to be receiued of all that will bée saued is set downe in the Créede called the Apostles Créed which beginneth thus I beleeue in God the Father Almighty c. And in the other receiued Créed Whosoeuer will be saued c. Which Créed is read diuers times in our Churches yeerely Rom. Is there no mention in that ancient Creed of praying to saints of going a Pilgrimage of worshipping of the Crosse and Images of Purgatory praying on Beades and such other matters as are receiued of vs which go to Masse Guid. Aske your Cozen. Rom. What say you Cozen are they Tract No what then shall we not vse Baptisme and the Supper of the Lord because they are not mentioned in that Creed Guid. Christ commanded the vse of them but not of the other yea rather hee forbiddeth the other for that they are repugnant to that which he commandeth and teacheth Mad. Most of your side M. Tractable are found to be far more forward in obseruing that which man requireth then that which the Almighty commandeth Many especially the ignorant sort talke much of the Catholike Faith but if one should aske them what is the true iustifying faith how it is wrought in vs to what end it is giuen vs I feare they would make but a simple answere Rom. If one should aske you Madame what would you answere Mad. Maister Guidewell is present therefore it is fit that he should answere Guid. Nay pray you let her heare what you can say Mad. This then vnder correction I say that Faith is a sure perswasion wrought in the hearts of the elect by the Spirit of God together with his word truly taught reuerently heard and well vnderstood by the which faith the soule beléeueth that it repenting and stedfastly cleauing vnto Christ her head and Sauiour hath all her sinnes throughly remitted and is reconciled to God to the end shee should bring forth the fruites of Repentance and in loue doe the workes of a sound faith to the glory of God the good example of others and the assuring her selfe of her effectuall calling and so of her election to life euerlasting Rom. I promise you Madam I take it to be farre more easie to kisse a Crucifixe to heare a Masse to goe to shrift to say dayly twenty Auo maries besides De profundis and to fast the Imber dayes from flesh hauing other good fare to serue the turne then to learne and practise this which you haue spoken of faith and workes I had thought you Protestants had shut good workes cleane out of your doores Guid. You and others are told many things which you should finde false if you would be one of our hearers for we teach that as that sonne which will dwell in his fathers house which is bought for him must go the right way vnto it So though Christ hath bought a resting place for vs in heauen with his bl●ud yet if we will enioy it wée must walke the right way to it dye to sin and lead a new life 2. Tim. 2 19.