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A10944 Samuels encounter with Saul. I Sam. chap. 15 from ver. 13 to ver. 30. Preached and penned, by that worthy seruant of God, Mr. Richard Rogers, late preacher of Wetherfield, in Essex. And published word for word, according to this owne coppy, finished before his death Rogers, Richard, 1550?-1618.; Egerton, Stephen, 1555?-1621? 1620 (1620) STC 21214; ESTC S100043 91,140 398

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that they highly displeased God in the middest of their security therefore had more cause to houle yea all such glory of theirs must bee to their shame and they must vomit vp their sweet morsells And as the Psalmist faith fret not at the vngodly whose wayes doth prosper for sodainely they shall come to a fearefull end So I say feare not to see them bold in euill as though they could make it good in the end for assuredly the time must come when they must wish that they had neuer done it and confesse that therein especially they sinned in which they most gloried and if it be so then we may well say with the Apostle what fruite had yee in those things whereof yee are now ashamed It is the part of a wise man to beginne with some hardnes that he may afterwards enioy more ease and our Sauiour so teacheth his that they must weepe and lament but their mourning shall bee turned into ioy Whereas the foolish world doth contrarily for it reioyceth in stollen and vnlawfull liberties which cannot hold long and when they haue done and would faine cloake them they must goe to howling sorrow and shame for committing them And it commeth the hardlier vpon them and is more vnwelcome to them because they accustoming themselues to pleasure and ease they looked for no breaking it of nor for any change And what other cheere did our forefathers finde in the booke of Iudges in all their casting of the Lords gouernment and seruice but crying The which what wise men would haue sought and procured it to themselues especially when it must bee continuall as the most is in such a case because euery one cannot crie to repent and therfore must cry in despaire and impenitencie And because I thinke this thinke this point is sufficiently seene into I will shut it vp concluding vpon this that hath been said and vp on like experience that for my part it little moues me to see men walke after their owne desires and to be as they say at their owne hand to be lawlesse as it were sinning with pride and contempt of reproofe and admonition and to please themselues in that which is euill I say it little moueth me to thinke them the only happie people who liue in a manner as they luft and set themselues a stint how farre and beyond which they will not goe in seruing God I lament the estate of all such as looke after no serious and true worshipping of him more particularly the sloth pride and prophanenes of many in the ministrie the little regarding of Gods matters and setting vp of his honour and magnifying the gospell as they may in many of them who haue rule ouer other how little care they haue to rule themselues though no time be too much to look after their own profit pleasure and preferment and in all sorts of people how preposterously they goe to worke setting earth before heauen darkenesse before light louing their foolish delights more then God and hauing a shew of godlines yet denie the power thereof and are strangers from the life of God I see their sorrow and woe not sarre of Oh that I could perswade them that which I knowe and that mine eies were a fountaine of teares that I could weepe bitterly for the desolation that shall come on them for let them say as long as they will with Saul wee in thus liuing doe please God and obey him they shall as little as they thinke it confesse with Saul that euen therein they haue sinned and thereby vndone themselues A question whether Saul repented VERSE 24. 25. And Saul said vnto Samuel I haue sinned for I haue transgressed the commandemen of the LORD and thy wordes because I feared the people and obeyed their voyce Now therefore I pray thee pardon my sinne and turne againe with me that I may worship the LORD TWO of the foure things haue beene spoken of the third followes Therefore to passe to the third of the foure points touching Sauls confession whether hee also repented As the Disciples said of Lazarus to Iesus Lord if hee sleepe he shall doe well so say some of Saul if hee bee come to confesse his sinne he shall doe well considering how farre of hee was from it and how hardly he was brought to it Answere To whom I answere alas that action was violent and wrung from him for the losse of his kingdome as may bee thought it was not free and vnfeined no more then Iudasses confession 〈◊〉 nor he constant in it and therefore it was far from being a fruite of repentance But seeing the cause must first be reasoned of before it be concluded I will first say on both sides somewhat I meane what likelyhood of repentance was in Saul and on the other side what may be brought forth and said against it wherupon the truth will soone appeare That which may most probably be said for it that I can see or finde is this First that this confession of sinne was not only in generall but also particular and of that very sin with which he was charged and which he had before denyed For if it had beene but generall it might haue seemed to bee lesse regarded And as hee did it particularly so it was that wherein he had most offended Secondly this may be said for some likelihood of his repentance that hee did after this call Samuell to goe with him to worshippe God and desired him to pray for him But these were very weake proofes as shall easily appeare by them that shall be brought on the contrarie and by that which shall further bee said of them For concerning his confession it was no better then Iudasses which was also of a particular sin and that which most concerned him as may bee seene by his words when he said I haue sinned in betraying the innocent blood and it was nothing like Dauids in soundnes who yet did confesse but generally saying I haue sinned Indeed for the outward manner of Sauls confession layd forth in words there can no ecception be made against it And I graunt that there was no more to be seene in the confession of the people of Israell whereby they testified their true repentance But we must know that repentance is neuer in the scripture neither ought of vs to be measured by the outward confession only but by the vprightnes of heart lamenting after God who hath beene so sore prouoked and by the vnfained faith of the partie and by the renouncing and forsaking of sinne These graces must bee found to accompany confession so that it may bee sound and good and without them it is nothing worth and Sauls being voyd of these was in no wise to be taken for a true note of repentance And that these must go with confession is to be seene in many places of scripture For Dauids confession that it came both from faith and